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I like Neptune. He's cool…But is the invitation out of kindness (maybe something to do with Jinbe?) or is it like the type of scenario where the bad guy invites the protagonist over to tell him to leave or something...Hmmm...
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DUDE. SWEEEET. I bet Pandaman is the One Piece equivalent of Han Solo!
I'm still not sure why Fishman Island is in such a vulnerable position. Even if it's a major thoroughfare for pirates into the New World just getting there is an epic and hazardous journey. Even without the Kraken in their way there were tons of deep seas monsters, volcanos, ocean currents, water pressure, temperature, etc. It seems like the place is naturally protect from outside unwanted visitors not to mention that we just saw Hodi Jones rip apart a ship underwater like it was a chew toy. Now i don't think all the fishmen can do that but even a couple should be able to pop those bubbles and send whoever they want floating or sinking.
So what was WB protecting? Why do they need Big Mam now? Unless like an army shows up with a crack team acustom to dealing with under water battling it seems like the denizens of Fishman Island have every tactical advantage on their side. They should be able to deal with the handful of rookies who make it past the Grandline especially when they're fighting on their own turf.
I'm still not sure why Fishman Island is in such a vulnerable position. Even if it's a major thoroughfare for pirates into the New World just getting there is an epic and hazardous journey. Even without the Kraken in their way there were tons of deep seas monsters, volcanos, ocean currents, water pressure, temperature, etc. It seems like the place is naturally protect from outside unwanted visitors not to mention that we just saw Hodi Jones rip apart a ship underwater like it was a chew toy. Now i don't think all the fishmen can do that but even a couple should be able to pop those bubbles and send whoever they want floating or sinking.
So what was WB protecting? Why do they need Big Mam now? Unless like an army shows up with a crack team acustom to dealing with under water battling it seems like the denizens of Fishman Island have every tactical advantage on their side. They should be able to deal with the handful of rookies who make it past the Grandline especially when they're fighting on their own turf.
the problem of fishman is "quantity",not "quality".Humans overnumbered them,and we've already saw how much fishman/woman or mermaid/mermen are valued at human auction houses.
so ,if it wasn't for whitebeard after,and big mum now,not only pirates in transit,but (many) people looking for money will came to the island kidnapping random people
I should be ashamed… Shame on me. Shame on me!!
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I am very sorry Arlong Park Forums. I won't do it again… Well... Not really. I will.
Clearly when Whitebeard added Fishman Island to his territory, he and Neptune sealed the deal via a manly handshake and trip to a bar where they got into an argument about who was the better AC/DC frontman.
Like real men.
@Wagomu:
I normally wouldn't say this, but I can't wait to see Neptune cosplay. It's going to be epic, failure or otherwise.
Hell, I got the hair to do it.
Just give me a month alone in a gym with no shaving equipment.
I'm still not sure why Fishman Island is in such a vulnerable position. Even if it's a major thoroughfare for pirates into the New World just getting there is an epic and hazardous journey. Even without the Kraken in their way there were tons of deep seas monsters, volcanos, ocean currents, water pressure, temperature, etc. It seems like the place is naturally protect from outside unwanted visitors not to mention that we just saw Hodi Jones rip apart a ship underwater like it was a chew toy. Now i don't think all the fishmen can do that but even a couple should be able to pop those bubbles and send whoever they want floating or sinking.
So what was WB protecting? Why do they need Big Mam now? Unless like an army shows up with a crack team acustom to dealing with under water battling it seems like the denizens of Fishman Island have every tactical advantage on their side. They should be able to deal with the handful of rookies who make it past the Grandline especially when they're fighting on their own turf.
OK, speculation incoming!
I think that Hodi Jones and his gang may pretty much be a "new" thing that didn't exist before. For all we know, the FI ruled by Neptune could be non-beligerant, since Hodi Jones calls him a coward and wants to steal back FI, making it clear that he is totally opposing Neptune's way to rule things. So, seeing how violent and anti-human Hodi is, we can assume that Neptune's way is quite the opposite, maybe being benevolent and not wanting a direct confrontation with travellers.
Also, there seems to be A LOT of mermaids and merfolk who are totally harmless. These guys cannot fend for themselves, and the number of trully strong Fishman is not that big, as Jinbe stated.
And lastly, the way the city is constructed, it looks to be HIGHLY human-friendly. It almost looks like a highly touristical place. So maybe, the massive amounts of difficulties to arrive to FI are something kinda recent. Like the Kraken, or the sea monsters that are actually part of the NFP, or Van Der Decken, or the very random sea volcano eruption.
So, for all we know, this situation right now may very well be totally different from the one Jinbe lived in the past, the same one that needed WB's intervention to cease human attacks on FI. Now, after all that shit, the NFP has started to make things terribly rough for anyone intending to get to FI.
More or less?
the problem of fishman is "quantity",not "quality".Humans overnumbered them,and we've already saw how much fishman/woman or mermaid/mermen are valued at human auction houses.
so ,if it wasn't for whitebeard after,and big mum now,not only pirates in transit,but (many) people looking for money will came to the island kidnapping random people
Yeah but they'd have to get to the island first which as we've seen is no easy feat. We've seen what bounty hunter groups are like in OP. For the most part they're weak, stupid, and hardly a threat. If Neptune can whip up an army to keep the princess safe he shouldn't have a problem telling 5 Ammonties to wait till the pirates are in the wost currents, or darkest places with the most crushing pressure and pop their bubbles. I mean even Vanderdeken seemed to be cherry picking off pirates when he knew they were vulnerable and Hodi seems to have no problem capturing pirate crews and controlling Seakings.
Even if there was some kind of RUSH to kidnap all the mermaids on Fishman Island the coating processes which isn't always 100% effective, and it's location deep in the grandline where only the strongest seem to want to go, and then down down down into the darkest coldest parts of the ocean…that should slow that rush enough for the merfolk to just fight back.
Yeah but they'd have to get to the island first which as we've seen is no easy feat. We've seen what bounty hunter groups are like in OP. For the most part they're weak, stupid, and hardly a threat. If Neptune can whip up an army to keep the princess safe he shouldn't have a problem telling 5 Ammonties to wait till the pirates are in the wost currents, or darkest places with the most crushing pressure and pop their bubbles. I mean even Vanderdeken seemed to be cherry picking off pirates when he knew they were vulnerable and Hodi seems to have no problem capturing pirate crews and controlling Seakings.
Even if there was some kind of RUSH to kidnap all the mermaids on Fishman Island the coating processes which isn't always 100% effective, and it's location deep in the grandline where only the strongest seem to want to go, and then down down down into the darkest coldest parts of the ocean…that should slow that rush enough for the merfolk to just fight back.
not easy,sure..but for so many years, pirates are passing through fishman island,from even before the "great pirate age" began,so it's dangerous,but not impossible,even less if a single kidnap allows you to make up to 300 mln berry,it pays enough for the danger 
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for the "patrol" part,remember that a coated ship can fight underwater,and the bubble itself is designed in such manner taht you need a great damage to pop it.
van der decken has a big giant-something as an ally,he can do the damage needed,but it's probably one-of-a-kind.
the ones who tamed seakings are the new fishman pirates,and we know that they take steroids (recentely) to became stronger,so maybe is thanks to that power that they can tame really big seakings to have the upper hand in a battle with an human ship
Am I reading too much into things, or is there something going on on FI that Oda hasn't told us about. My first clue comes from the conversation with Neptune this chapter. He asks Megalo to identify the crew then proceeds to invite them to the castle. On my first read I simply passed it off as Neptune attempting to give Jinbeis message to Luffy, but why does he need Megalo to identify Luffy. Could it have to do with the fight between Luffy and the Kraken Megalo witnessed. Second, and what aroused my suspicions, is what Hyouzuo said last chapter, "it'll be bad if [Luffy] dies." (linked below). Why? Why is Luffy so important?
If i'm correct, Hodi Jones wants to meet Straw hat with his own eyes. To see the human who crushed Arlongs dreams.
While Neptune probably wanted to see Luffy to give him Jinbei's message OR to defeat VDD for his daughter.
Ah cool NFP designs I stared at the panel for ages. Hyouzou stays my favourite. As said already it was very nice seeing Nami again, Big maam probably behind E.S pillswhich I dnt really like btw that whole power up thing, and Neptune is fugly but me like he has some presence.
I agree with those saying Hodi dsnt give major villain vibes he’s scary but there must be someone else? Actually Hodi Jones I couldnt help thinking finally Davy is going to turn up in the OP world as the major boss of this arc(& a relative of Hodi :ninja:)…runs
Also I'm expecting the mermaid princess to have red hair as some acknowledgement of Ariel.
good chapter t.y for posting!
Edit: After reflection if he was the real boss of this arc Davy Jones would’ve probably been hinted at by now he wasn’t even mentioned once (if he exists). Though we have not seen much of the Van Dekken side either and don’t know the length of the FI arc so we never know.
There are so many antagonists already and with Big maam I doubt he will be introduced here he would be overshadowed. Maybe just mentioned in relation to Hodi. But am still hoping for a small sick appearance towards the end a la Dofla.
@Robo:
Am I reading too much into things, or is there something going on on FI that Oda hasn't told us about. My first clue comes from the conversation with Neptune this chapter. He asks Megalo to identify the crew then proceeds to invite them to the castle. On my first read I simply passed it off as Neptune attempting to give Jinbeis message to Luffy, but why does he need Megalo to identify Luffy. Could it have to do with the fight between Luffy and the Kraken Megalo witnessed. Second, and what aroused my suspicions, is what Hyouzuo said last chapter, "it'll be bad if [Luffy] dies." (linked below). Why? Why is Luffy so important?
of course is about the battle between rufy and the kraken.
hyouzuo wanted luffy alive because jones tell him to bring him at Noah,we don't know why though.
Yay! We might get to see the mermaid princess next chapter xD!!!
Yeah but I wanna see Zoro…
Yay! We might get to see the mermaid princess next chapter xD!!!
iuno how Oda will make her more beautiful than the ladies already introduced in One Piece…that or shes gonna look like freaky stuff growing on freaky stuff and ima do many facepalms
@Cyan:
Clearly when Whitebeard added Fishman Island to his territory, he and Neptune sealed the deal via a manly handshake and trip to a bar where they got into an argument about who was the better AC/DC frontman.
Like real men.
This post is so manly, I am scared to reply to it without protection on my fingers, out of fear of getting pregnant with triplets.
Well King Neptune is recruiting a army to fight against van der dekken so he will probly recruit luffys crew as well
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yes i think that Big Mama/Big Mom will hear from that crew Jones sent up and Big Mom go and check out what is happening at fishman island.
she will probly be Lolas mom so we wont have to worry about Luffy having any danger from her and she will probly come after luffy defends the island and she will thank luffy and his crew for defending her island.
Did you guys think that the Strawhats may use Pappag's clothes till the end of One Piece? I mean, they got tons of them, they could even start an non-intended advertisement for Criminal's Clothes and make them even more famous to the extend that they can surpass Dosukoi Panda's ones.
And going further on the speculation, maybe all the mugiwara's allies can use Criminals on the final war against the WG hahaha :ninja:
But imagine, Oda has probably put Brook's as a famous musician to help the mugiwaras gather more support from the people from far away in the sense they'll agree more easily with their statements about the WG, Criminal's Clothes can put a bit more on it, like yohohoho mugiwara's trending on music and clothes~
Several people mentioned in the spoiler thread and here the possibility that Luffy would end up, for whatever reason, taking the drugs. The whole "shave life off" thing is just too familar when it comes to him, isn't it? But in thinking about it, I don't think Oda will go on that direction, and I have a couple of reasons.
First, and perhaps foremost, is that, depending on how it's handled, it seems like it would undermine the whole purpose of the t/s power-up thing. The reason, we were told, that Luffy did all the things he did that were so dangerous, from involuntarily being stuffed with 100 shadows to Gear 2nd to taking healing hormones, was to allow him to fight on in defense of those who are precious to him–and we and he were in the process of being convinced of the absolute necessity of him powering up in some permanent way. Well, he (and we) were convinced, and said powering up has occurred. It seems as if it would be rather lame to have him resort to drugs to powerup on his first time of trotting out his new power, but maybe that's just me.
My other point is probably obvious, but bears stating because it comes up regardless, and has to do with the usual use of something like this in these sorts of stories--to have the hero face his dark side by means of some tempatation that is "a bad thing for a good end", with the hero coming out wiser but ultimately victorious over said temptation. OP isn't that sort of story and Luffy is so not that sort of emo character, so again, not happening.
One last possibility in favor of it happening, though, is a villain may somehow trick or force the drugs into Luffy for their own nefarious purpose--perhaps in this way bringing about the destruction of FI, somehow, at Luffy's hands. Oda would find a way to make such a dark scenario fit into OPs world, I'm sure. Things are definitely darker, now...
@Bulletproof--Of course! What better brand for pirates than "criminal?" LOL
Interesting chapter.
if Hodi Jones is the "Boss" of Fishman Island, then I think Fishman Island is going to be a disappointment.
If this is the case, I am hoping there will be other big revelations such as Fishman Island having a Poneglyph, a Big Mam introduction and learning more about the Celestial Dragons.
"You-Know-Who" :ninja: –> voldemort then
"You-Know-Who" :ninja: –> voldemort then
Good point, now I remembered while reading that I found this a bit weird, ok that people respect him and all but why just don't say his name, right?
@I survived The Buster Call Yup I do agree with you, I can't see Luffy's eating it by his own, they even look like pills rather than some food he would be confused about and also all the reasons you stated do make a lot of sense.
I'm excited for the Princess design and how her personality will be, things may turn upside down with that in the sense Vander Decken can become more of a good guy, because you know, it's a sad life to don't be able to live around with people like you (assuming he's a fishmen), making friends, normal life and being secluded by them because of something an ancester did, kinda like Kricket's history, also another paralell to Skypea.
I posted this info in the spoiler thread, and someone asked me to repost, so for good or ill, here it is:
Daruma the cookie cutter shark
I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but the name Daruma is used for a certain type of doll in Japan–Is it the same kanji or way of writing that doll's name in the chapter, does anyone know?--here's an image: [hide]
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and here's what the site said about it–it's a good description:
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The eyes of the Japanese Daruma doll are left intentionally blank when made. The owner will then make a wish while painting-in the pupil of one eye (typically the right eye). When the wish has been fulfilled, the owner will paint-in the remaining pupil. The Daruma doll is typically displayed in a high visible location in the home or workplace – as a reminder of a goal or wish unfulfilled. The doll’s low center of gravity makes it naturally self-righting when toppled – supporting its association with persistence and optimism.
The Daruma doll – with grim countenance, moustache and beard, and absence of limbs – is based upon the historical figure BodhiDharma: the 6th century founder of Zen Buddhism (the Japanese name Daruma comes from Dharma). According to legend, BodhiDharma meditated for nine years while staring at a cave wall – he lost the use of his arms and legs to atrophy (thus the absence of arms and legs on the Daruma doll). He is known for his distinctive beard and moustache, and a harsh temper.
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So, to sum up, daruma dolls are associated with persistance in going after or achieving dreams or wishes. Now I'm not gonna be the first to say "next nakama" for this guy with what appears to be the best design of the new FI pirates, but if someone already introduced in a hidden and subtle way were to be a contender, and if his name is indeed the same as the dolls, he would seem like a good choice based solely on… nothing really :ninja: LOL
but, daruma (the chara) has his left eye (and right eye too).. which mean his dream already fulfilled :ninja: I think
My 2 cents on the naming of the whale.
The Japanese name of Neptune's whale is "ホエ", which is derived from "ホエール", the localization of the English word Whale.
In other words it's just the first half of the word Whale.
It's written like that because Japanese has no letters to pronounce "wh".
The whale's name is just half of the world whale (like croc is half of crocodile).
So it should probably be romanized something close to "whale".
Hence I wrote it as "Whoe". "Whae" may work as well.
Perhaps Mangastream's translator didn't know what ホエール is the Japanese way to write "whale", and didn't get the pun.
EDIT: In fact, Whae/Whoe's cry is ホエ～～～ル, in other words "Whaaaaaale".
But looking at their scanlation, they translated his cry as HOEEEEEEEEEEL.
My assumption is most likely correct, they don't know that ホエール is the English word Whale.
mangastream doesn't know a lot of things
Oh I suspect the word will get out now that you've posted that, Aohige, lol.
In other news, Alabasta has been reconfirmed as an official spelling. 
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good chapter
i don't know if it's been mentioned but Hodi Jones and his drugs could be inspired by beserkers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker
it's possible since it is a pirate manga and oda like vikings
I think Hodi and Friends will turn out to be a nice mid-tier bad guy when this arc is all said and done. Like a super powered 'Franky Family'.
Yeah, regarding how 'strong' or 'weak' the New Fishman Pirates turn out to be, we've already seen that swordsman octopus underling block a Jet Pistol without breaking a sweat - and if Luffy didn't happen to have magic poison resistance to everything (sweet! Thanks Ivankov!) he'd be dead by coming into contact.
I figure the NFP crew can take our heroes (especially those outside the Monster Trio) to the brink if they're drugged up, seeing as a lieutenant can block a non-trivial shot from the Strawhats' main nuke. I really hope we get an updated version of Usopp's "Fire! - OMG RUN - Fire!" strategy.
Luffy probably won't take pills deliberately since I expect they'll turn out to be addictive or otherwise Very Bad News; he tends to react badly to people 'cheating' in brawls. Thinking they're candy or being fed them by nasty sorts entirely possible.
Also - re: Fishman Island being safe? Oda's had characters affirm repeatedly that it's not, and had them make it clear they need a Yonkou patron. At the very least I'd guarantee that the WG can use its Vegapunk tech to get Admirals etc. down there with some alacrity in a crisis.
Let me just say - I'd really like to see a Crew Meeting at some point soon where they lay out where they are, where they're going, what immediate goals they have, etc. For example - do they feel like they need to fix every problem on the Grand Line? Assumably a lot of them, but Robin now knows a lot of bad WG stuff if she's been hanging with the Revolutionaries for 2 years - any interest in that? Shall revenge against Akainu et. al be a priority? An 'if we get a chance'? A non-concern? I just feel like they've been running to get here so long that arriving is a good time to stop for a second and work out what EXACTLY they intend to do re: the New World.
I bet Jones get's owned by luffy in gear 2 then takes a shitload of energy steroids and gets owned by Luffy in gear 3.
I can already see the point where hodi is crawling away from luffy towards the more pills and then gets destroyed
@JAnnic–I suspect that Luffy will feel an even greater urgency in becoming PK, since Ace more less said that his only regret at death was not seeing Luffy achieve his dream. Also, the rest of the crew powered themselves up in order to help Luffy achieve that dream, or so they all said in one way or the other, so I doubt that revenge against Akainu et al will be a priority... But hard to say waht would happen if they met him face to face. I doubt any sort of crew meeting will happen since they tend to be a sort of "take life one say at a time on our way to fulfill our dreams, and have adventures along the way while we're at it" sort of crew.
Jones is damn cool, but I gotta give the slight edge to Arlong as best Fishman Pirate Captain based on the soul fact that Hodi has to rely on those "steroid pills", while Arlong used his brute merman strength to fight.
Jones is damn cool, but I gotta give the slight edge to Arlong as best Fishman Pirate Captain based on the soul fact that Hodi has to rely on those "steroid pills", while Arlong used his brute merman strength to fight.
… Arlong isn't a merman. I'm amazed that this late you don't know the difference.
I have read through the chapter a couple times and I can't see a Sunny Pirates tattoo on any of the New Fishman Pirates, unless they were all too young to be a part of the original Fishman Pirates (unlikely) then they should have them somewhere seeing as they are so devoted to Fisher Tiger.
Rey–like I said before, taking such pains over other people's behavior is gonna give you a heart attack some day. Learn to let things slide. Save you a world of pain later.
Dragon--I was reminded by someone else to keep in mind that Arlong was set up as the oppressor of the weakest of the four seas in OPverse, whereas these FIP are fighting the type of pirates that are strong enough to get to FI. Not fodder in other words. Strong in this case must be relative.
I have read through the chapter a couple times and I can't see a Sunny Pirates tattoo on any of the New Fishman Pirates, unless they were all too young to be a part of the original Fishman Pirates (unlikely) then they should have them somewhere seeing as they are so devoted to Fisher Tiger.
Hodi Jone's Arm.
I have read through the chapter a couple times and I can't see a Sunny Pirates tattoo on any of the New Fishman Pirates, unless they were all too young to be a part of the original Fishman Pirates (unlikely) then they should have them somewhere seeing as they are so devoted to Fisher Tiger.
It's possible that they just have it somewhere where you can't see it, like on the back like Hancock.
I'm sure once we get deeper into the arc we'll see whether they were or not.
I'm also wondering how Hachi will fit into all this as Arlong's former subordinate.
@I:
Rey–like I said before, taking such pains over other people's behavior is gonna give you a heart attack some day. Learn to let things slide. Save you a world of pain later.
Dragon--I was reminded by someone else to keep in mind that Arlong was set up as the oppressor of the weakest of the four seas in OPverse, whereas these FIP are fighting the type of pirates that are strong enough to get to FI. Not fodder in other words. Strong in this case must be relative.
Yeah I know the difference, it was just a typo. But that guy has such a fishman/merman boner I'm not surprised he called me out on it.
For your second point, that's defeinitely a valid view, but I'm not so much arguing strength as I'm just stating who I like better.
Are you stating that Arlong was fodder?
But that guy has such a fishman/merman boner I'm not surprised he called me out on it.
I'm a chick.
And yeah I have an imaginary one (in more than one way) for them. Some people have it for pairings, some people for the supernovas, some people for the WB pirates. I have it for fishmen and mermen. So what? 
I think Hodi and Friends will turn out to be a nice mid-tier bad guy when this arc is all said and done. Like a super powered 'Franky Family'.
no, they are like shandians. and E.S are Like Reject dials.. and King Neptune is like Enel.. and hatchan, Pappug and Keimi are like Pagaya, Suu and Conis.. and.. and…:ninja: you know.... Im not serious
I have read through the chapter a couple times and I can't see a Sunny Pirates tattoo on any of the New Fishman Pirates, unless they were all too young to be a part of the original Fishman Pirates (unlikely) then they should have them somewhere seeing as they are so devoted to Fisher Tiger.
They modifed it to include a decapitated human with a bar over it.
I'm a chick.
And yeah I have an imaginary one (in more than one way) for them. Some people have it for pairings, some people for the supernovas, some people for the WB pirates. I have it for fishmen and mermen. So what?
Haha I can't blame ya actually! I agree, the fishmen/mermen are very awesome. They're so interesting because there's such a wide variety of them, and it's fun predicting what new species will show up next
well, i guess we know who the main antagonists are lol.
Frog?? No. HIPPO.
One thing that intrests me about the NFP is that while they have four Lieutenants, there does not seem to be a true First Mate among them, unless he's going to be revealed or all four cover that role.
@S.C.:
One thing that intrests me about the NFP is that while they have four Lieutenants, there does not seem to be a true First Mate among them, unless he's going to be revealed or all four cover that role.
I think Zoe is the firstmate, because he has 02 tattoo,, :happy: and he sits beside the boss coolly, while the others just standing around
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Meh those Fishmen haven't impressive me so far. Arlong could do the same without needing steroids and Arlong would be fodder for the current Stawhats
