I really didn't like any of the Kitaki family stuff. Tho I dug the rock concert case.
I love the cast of Apollo, and feel they work well once integrated back into Wright's plot once Duel Destinies came out. I'd just really wish they wouldn't keep shoving Maya away.
GS4 wasn't exactly rushed in terms of the deadline; but it was rushed in terms of how messily the plot was resolved. If Takumi had earned plenty more time to review over his scenarios and maybe even include some ideas he had previously cut, it may have turned out to be very different and maybe even more well-received. Maybe.
GS5's case, though, was that it was green-lit but then delayed for so long; they had to bring it out sooner. Yet, it was the localization of that game which was legitimately rushed, with all the typos in the game by official release.
Takumi didn't direct Apollo Justice. He just made Hobo Nick but everything else was not his, since he considers the series over with his trilogy, everything else is just a fan fiction.
DGS is not a "prequel" because it has a complete different cast with different plotlines that aren't related to the original trilogy, and the only link between them is Ryuunosuke being the "ancestor", but beyond that is a complete new series with a more complex gameplay also
and the only link between them is Ryuunosuke being the "ancestor",
Sounds a lot like a prequel to me
or it could be alternate reality shenanigans.
Kristoph's motives were left to the black psylocks and the next game. That never came
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Bad idea screwed further by what ultimately happened.
It's been years since I played the game, but if I recall correctly, wasn't his motive
! because he was upset that Zach/Shadi chose Phoenix over him due Phoenix's style of bluffing in poker (which also is his style in the courtroom) appealed to him (Zach/Shadi). It's a motive, just not a very good one.
Klavier in particular didn't really have any personality beyond the rock star gimmick
Never understood why everyone loved his rockstar gimmick in the first place. Although I did like Klavier as a prosecutor because he actually wanted the truth. Whereas Franziska wanted to just win, and Godot wanted "revenge".
The plot of AJ went pretty much nowhere and raised more questions than it answered. People often say that it's as good as the first game and that Capcom just didn't give it another chance, but I strongly disagree - the original worked very well even as a standalone game while still making you want more, and it had a gripping plot with a dynamic cast of characters. While all four cases in AJ:AA had at least a few brilliant moments, I feel that quality-wise they ranged from trainwrecks (4-3, 4-4) to just dull (4-2).
I think what frustrates me most about AJ is how it never felt like the story belonged to Apollo. It was essentially
! Phoenix's story, and his long set up to find out what happened in his court case and to get Kristoph found guilty. Especially misleading when Capcom spent such a long time promoting the game and it's new attorney.
But, what still amazes me is that I know some people who thought the "bad" ending is the true ending.
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Sounds a lot like a prequel to me
or it could be alternate reality shenanigans.
I can always rely on your "Well, technically…" posts.
I wasn't aware Apollo Justice had a "bad ending" o___O
I wasn't aware Apollo Justice had a "bad ending" o___O
It's nothing special, really. It's if you
! choose "guilty" instead of "not guilty". The people I knew chose "Not Guilty" because "there wasn't evidence to convict him"… Which is WHY THERE'S A JURIST SYSTEM FOR THAT CASE.
Heh. I guess thats the one I got then.
I thought it was a really nice touch that Apollo does some of Kristoph's animations in the last case of Dual Destinies.
I wasn't aware Apollo Justice had a "bad ending" o___O
Almost all of them have bad endings…...I think Justice For All & 5 have the worst.
5 actually had 2 bad endings.
5 actually had 2 bad endings.
Actually it has about 4, 3 in the final case, and 1 for the DLC case.
Could be off though I only heard about the other bad endings the one with Athena getting the Shelley De Killer treatment was bad enough to make me restart my 3DS if ever I emptied my penalty gauge.
I like bad endings. AAI had a lot of unique Game Over scenarios depending on where you failed but they all ended with "and so the truth was lost forever" or something along those lines. I think Dual Destinies could have taken a few cues from the AAI sub-series, like having a
for the last cross-examination/confrontation.Regarding my AJ post: sorry, but I'm not really up to the challenge of debating about the quality of a game that I haven't played in so long.
The first game didn't really have a plot since each case was standalone with it's own story and characters.
Excuse my rudeness, but this is some of the most superficial BS I have read in a while. The cases themselves are standalone, yes, but there is a recurring plot that ties directly into the main characters' developments.
In any case, I wasn't arguing over whether its quality is above or below others in the series; rather, speaking objectively about its impact toward holding up the series and its room for growth and expansion. The example with GS5 was completely unrelated, but it was an offhand example used in comparison.
Takumi didn't direct Apollo Justice. He just made Hobo Nick but everything else was not his, since he considers the series over with his trilogy, everything else is just a fan fiction.
I never said he was the director; but he was invited as a guest scenario writer for the game. They just left his name in the credits as "special thanks". A few of his drafts for Apollo Justice were revealed in one early interview with him back in 2008 (can't recall which one right now). One of which detailed a very different 4-3, where Daryan Crescend was more fully developed as a villain character and was scheduled to appear prior to that case. The incident would have left a heavy scar on Klavier and added to his character as well. Granted, it was just a rough draft, so no details were confirmed.
One day, everyone will understand that the Compass Birds are in fact the most important clue to the Void Century.
Excuse my rudeness, but this is some of the most superficial BS I have read in a while. The cases themselves are standalone, yes, but there is a recurring plot that ties directly into the main characters' developments.
What recurring plot?
The fourth and the fifth cases (the latter which was added to Yomigaeru Gyakuten) are the only ones whose plots directly tie into one another.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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What recurring plot?
The fourth and the fifth cases (the latter which was added to Yomigaeru Gyakuten) are the only ones whose plots directly tie into one another.
Simply put, what was the reason Phoenix became an attorney in the first place? If he only wanted to "help" people, he didn't need to become one. This is a story about his first year as an attorney and what he managed to accomplish just in his first year. It's not merely a collection of random cases he takes.
Granted, the plot isn't most visible until the 4th case, where Phoenix actually gets to approach Edgeworth from a more personal point of view, rather than as an antagonist. Up until then, though, he constantly drops hints regarding what his goal of being a lawyer was. Mia, actually more so during the third case, stays around to help guide him, since he's still a rookie. She doesn't appear until a very critical point in the 4th case, but not just as a plot device. It goes to show that he was only able to hold his own that far without her help (and even then, he only got there because Larry managed to drag things out).
There's even a moral for each case, just like a collection of Aesop's fables, but they're not nearly as scattered as those fables. It's quite impressive story writing if you think about it.
One day, everyone will understand that the Compass Birds are in fact the most important clue to the Void Century.
It's not merely a collection of random cases he takes.
Um actually it kind of is.
There's even a moral for each case, just like a collection of Aesop's fables, but they're not nearly as scattered as those fables. It's quite impressive story writing if you think about it.
True I'm guessing I just wasn't one of those people who focused on minor/unnecessary details like that.
Phoenix became an attorney to meet Edgeworth since he coudln't get into contact with him any other way.
Full cover revealed for DGS
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Liking the cover art, yet another good thing they're taking on from Phoenix Wright vs. Professor Layton!
Agreed. Much better than the standard four character panels they've used since the first game's DS port.
"WHAT is a DEFENDANT?! A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk, have at you!"
@Cyan:
"WHAT is a DEFENDANT?! A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk, have at you!"
Well we already have a whip so…
Also did you guys notice the "Nintendo network" on the cover? I'm wondering if it means that we will get FREE bonus episodes/chapters/whatever like in Layton vs Nick, or not so free ones like in AA5. But considering that Takumi had them free previously there's hope at least
Agreed. Much better than the standard four character panels they've used since the first game's DS port.
Yeah here's hoping if the game is localized hopefully they keep it and don't pull an Ace Attorney
Capcom released a new Character Introduction video yesterday:
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Shit! Can't believe it this game got released in Japan nearly a month ago and no one noticed.
We are ignoring it on purpose to avoid the temptation of spoilers.
We are ignoring it on purpose to avoid the temptation of spoilers.
We are?
I thought we were ignoring it because it still hasn't been announced for a western release.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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We are?
I thought we were ignoring it because it still hasn't been announced for a western release.
All of the above i guess
http://mynintendonews.com/2015/09/01/ace-attorney-6-has-been-announced/
Ace Attorney 6 has been announced for 3DS. Famitsu reports that Ace Attorney 6 will feature a new game system that enables quicker gameplay.
New game and no news of localization.. Shame capcom, shame!
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So they are skipping feudal phoenix wright, just to avoid the whole "los Angeles is Tokyo" thing from fading away..
First scans:
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What a load of BS. It just a 200 year gap between generations anyway.
Kind of weird they're already confirming Western release for this one ad there's been no word at all for the Great Ace Attorney game. I hope it won't have any impact on part 6 at all…
Also, Phoenix is looking downright pissed in that new pic.
Surprised this hasn't been posted yet. Is it weird that I'm more interested in the series after watching a parody with jokes that fly over my head?
Text from the scans translated:
! This time, the game is set outside Japan. Naruhodo has come to the unnamed country for a reason, but luck has it he gets involved with some case. The people in this country seem to believe in the spirits of the dead. In their courtrooms, there’s a big Water Mirror (mizukagami) set in the floor. On the upper 3DS screen, we see images and words floating in the water, while in the lower screen we see what appears to be part of a testimony and the option to present something.The boy is called Bokto Tsuani (bokuto tsuaani -> Boku to Tour ni -> On a Tour With Me) and he is a monk-in-training, who works as a tour guide to make some money. Once he starts his tour-guide-talk, he can’t be stopped.
There’s also a screenshot of a mysterious girl. According to the text, she is not a prosecutor, witness, nor the judge.
New game and no news of localization.. Shame capcom, shame!
You've been swerved son.
Though damn if this announcement of the game itself didn't come out of nowhere.
So they are skipping feudal phoenix wright, just to avoid the whole "los Angeles is Tokyo" thing from fading away..
Meiji era actually plus there was never any indication they were planning on localizing that game anyway.
Also, Phoenix is looking downright pissed in that new pic.
Well, of course he is. Mountains are his greatest weakness.
There's a lot of mention to spirituality in this town, so we may expect to meet with a certain spirit medium as well.
Boooo, Capcom Boooooo….
New stuff for aa6:
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I'm getting a Far Cry 4 vibe here.
Hard to feel broken up by this in light of six being announced…..and it still being realitively early to assume anything.
Come to think about it, Yobi's avatar is fitting to all of this.
Come to think about it, Yobi's avatar is fitting to all of this.
That's the whole purpose of it.
But it will eventually arrive, Takumi games always manage to (even Ghost Trick despite the zero advertisement from capcom, and we had it translated and boxed too)
I can't get over how pissed Phoenix looks in these illustrations, it's like he's been given the Kirby treatment. Heck, I look at the one of him pointing and keep expecting to see Star Platinum materializing behind him!
So, the premise of the game seems similar to the Layton crossover. I hope the concept is executed a little better given how Ace Attorney's native brand of mysticism is a little more grounded, for lack of a better word, than what we were seeing there. Unless they decide to go full Metal Gear Solid 4 or something. While I highly doubt they've been cut they better bring back Apollo and Athena, since the three lawyer dynamic was like the best part of Dual Destinies.
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While I highly doubt they've been cut they better bring back Apollo and Athena, since the three lawyer dynamic was like the best part of Dual Destinies.
And for some the worst part was keeping Maya out of the game….....I'm assuming they'll do the same if six continues the trend.
I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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Good news, Phoenix going on vacation (and he better bring the whole family) means that the translators don't have to go through hoops to avoid mentioning the word "Japan".
Unless they decide to go full Metal Gear Solid 4 or something.
Holy shit this would actually own.
"This is called…GUNS OF THE LAWYERS!!!" Liquid Maya does air machine guns
And for some the worst part was keeping Maya out of the game….....I'm assuming they'll do the same if six continues the trend.
That never bothered me, given how the mysticism was never my favorite aspect of the series. Given that that seems to be the crux of this game though, and that the tour guide kid and the Maya-clone have magatamas (albeit differently-designed ones), and the "6" in the Japanese logo looks like one and is purple to boot I'd be very, very surprised if Maya doesn't put in an appearance somehow.
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