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Chapter 615: "The Mato-Mato Curse" Discussion
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Yes! Finally! Time to engulf this.
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Haha! Time to read.
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Yes! Thanks mangastream…. We know you had some weather issues and we're all thankful for your persistance.
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Woo! Finally! 16 chars
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very nice chapter
lots of things happened , very nice
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Thanks alot Mangastream , time to take a look :].
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Yay I moved and stickied things. LOL. Off to read. Thanks Zach. You rock.
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Finally its out… =D
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Does anyone know what Dadan is doing on the cover? Can't see because of the text..
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Thank you to everyone involved in bringing us this chapter!
I liked it. A lot of exposition and backstory, but very entertaining. Zoro and Sanji are more alike than ever. The best part for me was learning about how Hodi looked up to Arlong and how the other Fishmen viewed their goals. And Arlong being cheap was a nice touch; if he couched up the money the Strawhats would have lost that day.
Looking forward to the invasion of the palace and Luffy meeting with Jinbei.
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Not as late as expected
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A chapter clarifying some things like Decken's ability. Good.
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Really fun chapter. I'm definitely feeling a long flashback sometime this arc.
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ability is ripp oof from this guy
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Prety good chapter.
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Yihaa, thanks !
10 years, so she died at the same time Van Der Decken started chasing the princess ? Hmm…
At first I thought the grave was the one of Fisher Tiger... -
really nice chapter
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Finally! Hyouzou is back
Where are Hammond and Hiccup?
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decken needs to wash them hands. Damn hachi is turning into a fodder punching bag.
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Did Brook use Yahazu Giri? It looked like the pirate walked a while before he felt pain.
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-Looks like Chopper is finally able to heed the call of the doctor without forgetting that he's a doctor.
-We now know that Decken can only target two people at a time. I'm willing to bet Luffy will be targeted accidentally by the Shirahoshi palm and Decken will freak the hell out.
-The invasion plan is foiled. The four straw hats can easily take out the half dead pirates who have reached the castle and whatever pirate Decken sends from this point will only fly toward luffy. The passageway will remain closed and the three brothers are outside and will intercept the pirates.ability is ripp oof from this guy
Rip-off? No. Similar? Yes. So what? There's also a fire demon as well as an ice demon in yu yu hakusho. Doesn't mean Ace and Aokiji's DF's are rip-offs.
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Ok cool.
So Vander Decken is a fishy version of baron Omatsuri,
Luffy is going to meet Jinbe by accident
And finally Queen Otohime got assassinated!I bet that the assault on Ryuugu palace by those human no-worth pirates won't prove to be a problem for the strawhats.
We need some Robin and Franky soon
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So it`s out earlier as i thought.
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Nice reveal that Hodi and most of his gang are part of the new generation and thus much younger than those who were in the Sunny Pirates, it makes sense.
And good to see Hatchan and Jinbei again.
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Nice to see oda confirmed that fishmen with devil fruits cant swim
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You know, Megalo's teeth cannot be that sharp if Shirahoshi can just rest her hands on them. Poor shark, first a human stuffs a giant mermaid into your mouth and now we discover you have dull chompers.
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-I really don't see the ministers being the corrupt guys here, as I expected, that was an overanalyzation of a gag
-Brook avoiding a slash, nice, he doesn't look nearly as useless as before TimeSkip
-"Do it or we'l be killed", lolwut? Put a sword on their face and make them search for the switch or kidnap the minister.
-I stand by my opinion that Chopper's kung fu was lame
-Oh man, its Hatchi
-I definately don't see a SWERVE being pulled on me here, the New Fishmen Pirates are the villains.
-Vendeckem got the curse from his father? Or did I misinterpret that? I hope he's lying, I don't want no Devil Fruits going through heritage here
-Hyozou is a mercenary instead of a pirate, that just makes him 10x more bad ass, he's the best swordsman Hachi was talking about alright
-"Arlong was too tight with his wallet, and he could never pay my fees" Fits right in with what we saw from Arlong.
-Oh, so the hand thing was a right prediction, I thought people were just overanalyzing, fair enough, but why didn't he want to touch Hodi? Apparently, he can more than one target, or did he just forget his love to kill Hatchi? Hmmm, plot hole?
-Hodi just made Hachi get hundreds of arrows, he is the villain of this arc, I think its time we accept this fact
-Ah, alright, two hands, two throws, it all makes sense now
-So this is the Sea forest, alright. This Queen plot sounds weird, an assassination? TO kill a corrupt person, I assume, maybe the king?Overall, good chapter
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Whoo~! Thanks!
Nice chapter~
I really like that Hyouzou guy. Can't wait to see him in battle.
It makes me kind of sad Shirahoshi hadn't seen her mother's grave in ten years.. -
VDD DF looks actually pretty neat would be nice to know if it has some restrictions except from only 1target/palm and how exactly it works. I mean are the projectiles just drawn to the target or do they move on their own? But I guess only time will tell.
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Another good chapter, Oda seems to be building this arc up quite a bit. I didn't expect Jinbei to show up, but I hope we get a flashback soon, though not just quite yet.
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I feel kind of stupid for not thinking of a Queen until now.
That said, I feel more strongly then ever that Hodi won't be redeemed. Even Wiper wasn't as much of a asshole when we first met like this.
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Don't see what the confusion has been about Decken putting on a glove before shaking Hodi's hand. Seemed at the time that it was a sign of respect for Hodi, i.e. I'm not going to use my power to stab you in the back when I can.
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Looking at all those pages… how can Oda do this? So elaborate and nice...
Great chapter. I still can't stop laughing at how Luffy managed to get the princess out of that tower in the middle of the chaos. But Megalo... is he alright?
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@S.C.:
I feel kind of stupid for not thinking of a Queen until now.
That said, I feel more strongly then ever that Hodi won't be redeemed. Even Wiper wasn't as much of a asshole when we first met like this.
Wiper wasn't 10% as assholish as this guy, the only assholish thing he did was attack the SH's, but his motives weren't clear, Hodi motives are as clear as crystal, and as dirty as shit
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VDD DF looks actually pretty neat would be nice to know if it has some restrictions except from only 1target/palm and how exactly it works. I mean are the projectiles just drawn to the target or do they move on their own? But I guess only time will tell.
Considering that they can be blocked, I would say that it's more of a homing feature that them seeking out their target. Hachi would have been fine had he closed the door behind him.
So many people in the world. And so many bullets. Lots and lots of bullets.
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It was an average chapter, nothing extra.
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So, do things that Van der Decken throws accelerate? I mean, fishman are ALOT faster in the water, right? So how could Hatchi outrun the arrows on land, but get hit in the water?
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Wiper wasn't 10% as assholish as this guy, the only assholish thing he did was attack the SH's, but his motives weren't clear, Hodi motives are as clear as crystal, and as dirty as shit
Wiper's motives didn't make him less of an ass. He and Hodi could learn from each other.
Still, I like that Hodi is a new generation of pirate like Luffy. It does create that parallel between them of two young pirates trying to live up the men that inspired them (Arlong and Shanks).
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Just one question about Deckers ability, how do the things he throw know which one of the two targets they need to target ?? The closest ??
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Lots of potential for every character to get to show off and so many different things that need to be covered. Every chapter makes me realize how massive this arc could be already!
Loved the chapter. So far in my eyes, those guys are definitly villains that need to be taught a lesson.
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Just one question about Deckers ability, how do the things he throw know which one of the two targets they need to target ?? The closest ??
I was guessing it was based on the hand he threw
Wiper's motives didn't make him less of an ass. He and Hodi could learn from each other.
Still, I like that Hodi is a new generation of pirate like Luffy. It does create that parallel between them of two young pirates trying to live up the men that inspired them (Arlong and Shanks).
Regardless of Wiper's assholish behavior, there's a clear difference between wanting to invade a Island of a god so they can get what has been stolen from them and wanting to destroy a island to make every single human fear them.
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Just one question about Deckers ability, how do the things he throw know which one of the two targets they need to target ?? The closest ??
He can control which of the two targets it goes after.
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So, do things that Van der Decken throws accelerate? I mean, fishman are ALOT faster in the water, right? So how could Hatchi outrun the arrows on land, but get hit in the water?
It is obvious they accelerate. I mean he just threw them up in the air. At that moment they had 0 momentum. They needed to go FORWARD to even reach their target. Now we don't know how they speed up. What is max speed? Do they speed up if the target speeds up? and so on.
All we can tell now is that they are at least as fast as a swimming hatchi. And the reason he outran them on land was that they hadn't picked up enough speed yet. So we learn another thing. They don't go from 0-60 instantly, they need to accelerate just like a car.
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Just one question about Deckers ability, how do the things he throw know which one of the two targets they need to target ?? The closest ??
That's why there are two palms. An object will seek whichever target belongs to the hand it was thrown by.
Rundown:
- Fishmen can't swim with Devil Fruits. Easily speculated, but good confirmation nonetheless.
- Jinbei appearing is nice.
- Flashback coming soon.
- Hodi is sinister.
- Houzozi (or w/e) is a mercenary and is thus legit.
- Hachi is weaksauce as usual.
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The similarity between Sanji and Zoro was just adorable
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I was guessing it was based on the hand he threw
That's why there are two palms. An object will seek whichever target belongs to the hand it was thrown by.
He throws the arrows with both hands, and the axe he throw in a earlier chapter was with both hands asswell.
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-I definately don't see a SWERVE being pulled on me here, the New Fishmen Pirates are the villains.
-Hodi just made Hachi get hundreds of arrows, he is the villain of this arc, I think its time we accept this factFranky says hi.
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Great to see the chapter after this long wait, thanks for it.
Interesting to find out the info regarding the Mato-Mato Fruit (yeah right…a curse) from Vander Decken, though it's sad that Hacchi has to be who it's demonstrated on. And...well, I can't wait to see what Jinbei has to say when Luffy and Shirahoshi arrive at the forest.
Hang in there, Kierkegaard.
