Curious: One piece and Parenting

dasia

Hey guys First of all I’m not a parent, I’m 20 and do not plan on having kids anytime soon *maybe not at all * But I’m curious:

If any, do you parents tell One Piece stories to your kids? If yes Why? How? To what extent?

Those that are not, do you plan on using One Piece if you have kids later? To what extent? Are there any of its messages you want to pass on?

Im curious because the other day I caught myself thinking about the time I’ll tell some brat about Luffy the Pirate King’s adventures. Wondered whether I had become such a freak or is this reaction absolutely normal for the average one piece fan? Even DBZ didn’t make me by mangas volumes to pass them on.
I definitely think OP can be used as a complementary tool in educating a child , be it boy or girl they will probably get sick of one piece from an early age because I wnt use any other bedtime story. It will be for enjoyment and the development of their Haoshoku haki eyes burning now whether they are receptive

Flux

You really shouldn't use a Kids+ manga as a moral code.

SingingThroughTheStorm

WWSD = What Would Sogeking Do

He would be amazing and sing a song.
Listen to Sea Moon See You, it was a lullaby from OP.

SingingThroughTheStorm

Kids if you are going to fight, fight dirty. There is no thing such as fighting dirty in a fight to the death.
I will use poison gas! Says Don Krieg.

I survived the buster call

LOL. I have kids, and they are the ones who got me into OP in the first place. It's not something I "use" as a parenting tool, but I certainly use my parenting tools/skills in discussing the ideas and issues raised in the Manga, and there are certainly a lot of meaty ones in there to discuss. Does that answer your question?

Singing–it's against the rules of the forum to double post. There is a button labeled "Edit" at the bottom of your post if you want to add to or change an existing post, and if you wish to answer multiple posts from one thread all at once, you can hit the 'multi" button on each post you wish to quote, then "quote" on the last one, and all the ones you tagged with "multi" will be quoted in order, along with the last one you hit "quote" on. You can then answer each post one at a time at your leisure, and post the answers all at once. Make sense?

Don Quichotte De Flamingo

Every night you read with them together 1-2 chapters before they go to bed..
You`re such a well-caring mum,BC:wub:

dasia

Lol thank you for your replies guys this is Arlong park aye saw the sarcasm coming >:) But really I said "complementary tool" not use One piece as the Bible. I perfectly understand what you mean though which is why I created the thread because i wanted to know to what extent people are willing to use the mangas.I still stand by the fact that i'll use it as bedtime story and bring out the messsages that I think are relevant particularly the theme of Ambition and dreams.Disney does not put this well enough hmph

Cyan D. Funk

I want to be a parent like Garp.

I survived the buster call

@Don:

Every night you read with them together 1-2 chapters before they go to bed..
You`re such a well-caring mum,BC:wub:

Sweet talking me up 'cause you know you're going down on our bet, Don? LOL

(Love you too. :wub:)

dasia

@I:

LOL. I have kids, and they are the ones who got me into OP in the first place. It's not something I "use" as a parenting tool, but I certainly use my parenting tools/skills in discussing the ideas and issues raised in the Manga, and there are certainly a lot of meaty ones in there to discuss. Does that answer your question?

@__I survived the buster call :__ Yes it does thank you! lol how old are your kids? this is interesting!I guess they can already understand by themselves much of the good messages One piece gets across.
arghh having problems with my internet cnt even follow the dicussion lol
@ Cyan D Funk :Like Garp eh the Fist of love method part?or the standby your grandson's execution part ?just kidding

dasia

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I survived the buster call

@dasia:

Yes it does thank you! lol how old are your kids? this is interesting!I guess they can already understand by themselves much of the good messages One piece gets across.

My kids are 9 (as of Friday, lol–and he may not read/see all the chapters/eps, depending on content and my judgement on how much he'll be able to get out of it and how much it over his head) and 13. They get a lot of the messages, but some we discuss in detail (Iva-chan raised some interesting discussion points, for example )

Cyan is known for his caustic and sarcastic humor, which is masterful, btw. (In other words, he was being funny about Garp)

Bobjr

@Cyan:

I want to be a parent like Garp.

Hey, if my kids aren't on an execution platform at some point in their lives, then I did not do my job right.

Hannyabal

@Cyan:

I want to be a parent like Garp.

!

dasia

@ I survived the buster call :Ah same age as my brothers.I've been trying to get them to watch read one piece but without success. I was thinking to start from a much younger age though, like 5?LOL.at least superficially , as pirate adventure :) I seee so you filter the mangas I understand thats another interesting point to raise thank you for your reply! & for the tip about forgot his name!

I survived the buster call

dasia, the manga is not really appropriate, nor is it written, for very young children like 5 year olds. LOL. Oda specifically says he writes for the tween, teen crowd. Kids at thsoe ages are developmentally ready to think about, talk about and come to terms with subjects of much more complexity than younger kids–for example sexual identification, gender identity, cross dressing, the true meaning of justice and what it may mean to various groups, parenting in all it's variations, familial relationships and what makes them valid or not, abandonment issues, moral codes, etc etc etc. Most 5 year olds aren't ready to deal with any of those issues, especially not to the depth they are presented in OP. It's more for older kid and adults, IMHO.

SingingThroughTheStorm

I think it is meant for the teens to adult. I think the Anime (Toei Funimation Subtitles) is just as mature as the Manga. I enjoy both. What about the Mugiwara Theater Gangster Time? Do you only have half your balls?

dasia

@ I survived the buster call :Oh no dnt get me wrong I Know which is why i said superficially .I am talking of the lighter stuff such as skypiea ,Alvida,arlong park ,how luffy found his nakama .And I'm certainly not going to shove the mangas in their face at 5 i meant more using one piece as an oral bedtime story the whole adventure side of it.
@__singingthroughthestorm__: mugiwara what?I probably skipped that with the whole oyabin filler part. But yes guys dnt get me wrong i know the anime and the mangas are for teens to adults.
When the kids are older though like 11 onwards I would definitly want to see them start reading O.P and get the inspiration . What I think one piece can bring to a kid is to have a dream and ambition thats what I mean by using the word education.Then comes the friendship ,bravery, not judging a book by its cover etc side of it. perhaps education is too big of a word? but thats what I mean by using One piece to convey messages to a child. Simply wanted to know if others are willing to use it more,less,not at all than this. ok thanks for the replies have essays to work on ciaoo.

Silvers Rayleigh

@Bobjr:

Hey, if my kids aren't on an execution platform at some point in their lives, then I did not do my job right.

Well said. But yah know, a war between WB and the marines doesnt happen in real life, if their on that platform it's done, no stalling, nothing.

Kitsune Inferno

Some of the more adventurous stuff can be enjoyed by younger children, though. Like Drum Island or Little Garden. :)

Mastello

Well where I live it actually says on the back cover of the OP volumes that "not recommended for children under 12"…

Cream-of-Chicken

I'll be the one singing Bink's Sake over my first born child's cradle.

But seriously, just carefully worded bedtime stories.
I want to tell my kids how important it is to shoot for your dreams and to never give up.

dasia

@ Kitsune inferno : yes exactly this is the extent to which I would see myself using it with 5 year old kids to get them to start dreaming you know.
@__Mastello__ :Yes of course here too but you know by 11 in france i was watching ranma and Dbz , some violence in one,boobies in the other.and that was after heavy censorship but i didnt turn into a freak as much as i know. I personally think some heavier parts of One piece are ok at eleven although its granted kids will still not understand fully the slavery ,justice corruption ect ect explorations. But it gives them a starter to explore the deeper meanings of the mangas at a later age if they wish.What I care the most about as a message really is the inspiration and the friendship and that from 5 is ok .
@ cream of chicken: EXACTLY!Im with you on this as well as sogeking song
cheers everyone :)

SingingThroughTheStorm

I sing the english version of Binks Sake all the time. I do enjoy the Japanese version, just can't remember all the words. Sea Moon Sea You is a really good One Piece Lullaby.
The Gaimon arc is great for children though. That was a great short thing to watch. I think it was episode 40-50. I know it was a really early episode/chapter.

Sea

There are a lot of naughty stuffs in one piece actually. The main characters act like punks.
I would choose Disney over One Piece, until my kids are over 13.

Redspear

me and my eight year old brother watch One Piece and i read him the subs and do voices and stuff. He knows everything about One Piece hahahaha.

CCC

@Kitsune:

Some of the more adventurous stuff can be enjoyed by younger children, though. Like Drum Island or Little Garden. :)

Yeah! Kids will love Luffy's ripped fingers bleeding all over the mountain and Zoro slicing halfway through his legs as Nami and Vivi suffocate!

Aw who am I kidding I'll read that shit to my kids anyway.

Kylor

There are indeed many lessons to be learned from One Piece, especially in the parenting department.

For instance, don't worry about actually raising your children! Go be a pirate, start a revolution, collect a lot of books, just go out and have a dangerous adventure! Your kids may never get to see your face, but boy will they be proud when they learn who their parent is! And while you're out having fun, you know what'll make sure they grow up to be good and strong when they grow up? HARSH. JUNGLE. TRAINING. Those tykes will love it! And don't worry about finding a good supporting home for them while you're away. Just leave 'em with some mountain bandits, or your petty hateful sibling, or your sick and dying spouse! They'll be just fine. And if they should ever end up in serious trouble… well, it's okay. Don't blame yourself. You can sit next to them during their execution, and I'm sure they'll forgive you for not helping them. But a busy parent such as yourself shouldn't have to bother actually making sure they grow up in a moral, supporting environment, right? Of course not, you have pirating to do! That's how you raise your children, the One Piece way!

Sea

Ace must be a reasonable character.

Mokenda_mint

I'm not a parent, but I do explain/talk about One Piece with my nieces.

I don't go into specific detail on things, of course, but I do give them a general picture of how One Piece is. In fact one of the nieces, 11, has gotten to where she adores Chopper. She's always having me get/make Chopper stuff for her.

The 8 year old is into the creepier stuff (despite being the 'girly girl'), so she's a big fan of Brook. She also likes Franky for the poses and loves the fact that she's been told that she could easily cosplay a young Nico Robin.

I'm always singing "Bink's Sake" to their 2 year old sister, she goes to sleep best with that one, idk why. She also has a Chopper plush toy she's extremely fond of.

I haven't even bothered telling them about/explaining Iva-san to them yet. I'll wait quite a while for that. (although I've caught the oldest reading my Crayon Shinchan in the past, so she'd probably be unfazed)

Hiroy

Hm.. If I were a parent, I'd probably not show my kid the OP volumes I currently have unless I have a great reason to. What got me into OP in the first place was that great sense of adventure in a fictional world with a great variety of settings and characters. As a kid I was really into reading story books, folk tales, skimming through animals and dinosaur books, and picture books of plant and marine life. It was all I had for entertainment aside from 3 channels on television. Reading OP was a mindblowing experiece for me.

If my kid is curious lad for this sort of thing, I'll definitely suggest him reading it… That's unless he get's into it himself. Hahahah! I won't complain.

Arei

I don't think One Piece is really in that age range where you sit down with your kids and introduce them to everything stage. I wouldn't really see myself ever telling kids about it unless they found the manga/anime elsewhere and read/watched it for themselves. I'm going to be more for sharing old disney movies and cartoons from my childhood versus something I liked in my teen years.

Monkey D

@dasia:

I am talking of the lighter stuff such as arlong park.

I won't call an arc which revolves a lot around racisim, where people are enslaved and where a mother is killed in front of their children because they are poor a lighter stuff.

triforcebih

Well yeah, I can't wait for chapter 574 to be animated. All kids in japan (who are under 12) will prolly expirience a mental breakdown. A manly tear for us, a mindfuck for them.

But I do know that my kids will read all +1000 chapters of OP sometimes in my future. That will help them develop their Engrish also.

SingingThroughTheStorm

I think Arlong and Drum were some of the more adult. I actually think Drum ranks within some of the most adult. Once you get past the blue nose, you find a very deep story. Hiriluk dying was awful.
Kureha started to hold a scapel to Nami's throat was pretty graphic.

Arlong was popular because it showed a transition for One Piece anime. It was the first dark arc.
Getting shot in the face, government corruption, and a bloody battle. Sounds great.
Don't forget to pay with your body. Haha

dasia

LOL cracked me up reading the thread yes arlong park might be too much totally forgot the bellemere bit.But Im not stupid enough to dwelve into that kind of details of course I wont even touch the slavery killing ect .If you see my previous post I said what I would like to tell to the youngers ones is an oral version of the light part of one piece how a boy went out to sea to become pirate king and made all sorts of friends on the way(not touching their darker stuff)met villains like buggy alvida ,giants went to the sky etc to get them to get think about dreams, conviction ,friendship get me…?no over throwing the status quo,justice and shit c'mon I know thats for much later in teenagehood ,adulthood. thank you for all the replies!