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      @metteminne:

      i think no religion allows it actually … : /

      U0kJHQpvgB8

      Sorry, I would've hated myself later if I didn't post this.

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        It just popped into my mind while we were talking about alcohol in IRC, so I get it out of my system.

        When I was 18 I had an.. alcohol problem I'd say.
        uhm. kind of embarassing. Well, I used to drink a bottle or two of sparkling wine every evening. uhm yeah. I did that for about 2 months then I stopped it.
        I just suffered a lot and I somehow wanted to drown it but on the other hand I just wanted to get it out of my system. Cause.. well it's hard for me to be emotional, to let tears of sorrow out if I'm not drunk. It's a lot easier when I'm drunk and because I knew crying would help me, I just got drunk, lol.
        Yeah, stupid, immature, naive yadda yadda yadda. I'm over that now πŸ˜‰

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          It's fine to drink when down, but in the sense that you go out and hit the bar with friends and loosen up and have a fun night.

          If you do it home alone as a habitual thing…..well....they call that alcoholism.

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            @THE:

            15 years old Vietnamese don't have sex and drink. Not where I live.
            After watching so much American movie, it's still a culture shock.
            –
            You did what should be done.

            It's not really culturally acceptable here either, unless you're talking the youth culture.

            Europeans on the other hand get drunk by age 5.

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              Europeans on the other hand get drunk by age 5.

              My dad gave me my first whiskey sip when I was like 4. πŸ˜† It was awful. My sister has been drinking beer since she was, what? 6? 7? I despise beer. Beer is horrible. 😞

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                @JERK:

                ahahahaha, what the fuck is this post. Shut up you moron.

                It's a different perspective than the "YOU ARE KNIGHT ON WHITE HORSE" white noise everyones posting. I'm not saying what he did wasn't respectable, or even that she was thinking exactly what I said, but anyone who knows anything about chicks should know what I said is a possibility.

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                More than that.
                My mom had a friend whose daughter was kicked out of a friend's car by the friend's mother in Mexico.
                "I don't want an American slut in my car!"

                Blame movies for that one.

                whoa, jesus. that must have been traumatizing.

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                  I can't believe this blatant racism from you two! Ok , racism is maybe a too strong word, hmm continentalism??

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                    @eerie:

                    It's a different perspective than the "YOU ARE KNIGHT ON WHITE HORSE" white noise everyones posting.

                    lol, yeah it's a interesting perspective on shoo-handing having 60 people dealing with manslaughter and criminal neglect when the girls lungs fill with bile and she suffocates in Mr.333's guest room. The stuff he did after was "eh" but you apparently think choking on vomit is some whatev old maids tale worth popping in next to changing someone.
                    You're like that one guy everyone knows who goes on rants about how "pulling out works" and how everyone's being a prude when they tell him to shut up and wear a rubber.

                    but anyone who knows anything about chicks should know what I said is a possibility.

                    Haw, chicks, let me correct the grown ass woman with at least one daughter about what she clearly don't know about chicks.

                    Hi! I'm Eerie and I actually thought this made sense.

                    15 year old girls are ALWAYS dying of barf induced suffocation after idiots place her face down or up! Geez! They get up the next day and maybe it's embarrasing but they'll look back on dying and laugh some day.πŸ˜‰
                    Also boys never do any of this stuff, it's the chicks man, the chicks.

                    I want to get you absolutely hammered and leave you in some shitty position and then, in the morning, when you're half naked with shat in drawers, drawings of dicks all over, an hour late to work, head half shaved, and get you up on podium so you can start giving this same scoffy little speech about how it's just a thing folks do.

                    Then I'll throw a beer can at your head.

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                      I said he saved her from possibly choking on her own vomit. Which is a very dangerous and real thing. And then you're repeating it back to me like I said it didn't matter? I also said it was respectable what he did, and people help each other out drunk all the time. You're assuming this scenario is like, the most extreme of all extremes with how drunk she was and what could have possibly happened though. I don't think it helps your position to do that.

                      Actually, now that I read this again, you'll whole retort is based around the vomiting remark. I said that was a GOOD thing. GOOD Mr. 333. Most of what I would expect people to have issue with is that he was being a bit too over the top with saying she poisoned her body, or people believing she actually WAS humiliated.

                      As for "boys never do any of this stuff, it's the chicks man. the chicks." I don't know where you come from, but people do this for each other all the time where I'm from. Boys, girls, boyfriends, girlfriends. So whatever. But it's the responsibility of this douchebag boyfriend to take care of his chick who he most likely took part in getting extremely drunk so he could fuck her. But 333 stepped in and helped out. As I said, that was very respectable and nice of him. This wasn't what I was disagreeing with people about. Jesus christ.

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                        @eerie:

                        I said he saved her from possibly choking on her own vomit. Which is a very dangerous and real thing. And then you're repeating it back to me like I said it didn't matter? I also said it was respectable what he did, and people help each other out drunk all the time. You're assuming this scenario is like, the most extreme of all extremes with how drunk she was and what could have possibly happened though. I don't think it helps your position to do that.

                        lol, you can't leave it alone can you. You come in with the deflation of what you said and I'm almost like 'maybe I was too hard on him" then BOOM wit the "dont assume the worst!!! she could have been 65% drunk and only possibly prone to dying in Mr.333's house! he was way uncool worrying about death and a huge fag, just sayin'" I mean what else is all this little snarky "whoa bro, don't be worryin about shit yo" stuff if not that.

                        Even in this chick was "whoa, wierdo worrying about me", then all that means is she's as dumb as you are. And in fact siding with theoretical 15 year old drunk logic is the first sign of you stopping what you're doing and thinking "what the hell am I rationalizing".

                        Actually, now that I read this again, you'll whole retort is based around the vomiting remark. I said that was a GOOD thing. GOOD Mr. 333. Most of what I would expect people to have issue with is that he was being a bit too over the top with saying she poisoned her body, or people believing she actually WAS humiliated.

                        Hey maybe that is what happened until you reiterated your little self-conscious concern about caring about "extremes" above! Whoops!

                        As for "boys never do any of this stuff, it's the chicks man. the chicks." I don't know where you come from, but people do this for each other all the time where I'm from.

                        Hey, when you start talking about "hey man, chicks man, you know how it goes" guess what you've done did.

                        But it's the responsibility of this douchebag boyfriend to take care of his chick who he most likely took part in getting extremely drunk so he could fuck her.

                        ahahahahahha, holy shit you are a worthless sack of garbage lol. I'm more responsible then sober you when I'm falling on my ass drunk. That is not even hyperbole.

                        This nigga be getting all libertarian about party messes. Heartless motherfucker all up in this shit, damn.

                        Hey pop quiz.
                        What's a thing worth criticizing more? Which is a person with bigger fucking issues?

                        A. The guy who maybe is a little overbearing when helping some drunk girl.

                        B. YO BRAW, DAT HO BE FLOATIN IN THE POOL BUT I AINT HER SQUEEZE SO WHATEV.

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                          What the hell was that jumbled mess, lol.

                          It's less rationalizing and just simply stating what her thought process might have been. I don't see how that leads to you assume that I agree she should be rationalizing it that way.

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                            @eerie:

                            What the hell was that jumbled mess, lol.

                            It's less rationalizing and just simply stating what her thought process might have been. I don't see how that leads to you assume that I agree she should be rationalizing it that way.

                            haha whoa! You're right what was I thin

                            You're assuming this scenario is like, the most extreme of all extremes with how drunk she was and what could have possibly happened though. I don't think it helps your position to do that.

                            But it's the responsibility of this douchebag boyfriend to take care of his chick who he most likely took part in getting extremely drunk so he could fuck her.

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                              Err, because those two comments have anything to do with her rationalizing him as doing too much.

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                                i wish that i knew more people like you mr333.

                                when helping someone out, it's always better to do too much than not enough!
                                you did a great thing.

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                                  Well, what are we arguing about?

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                                    lulz. No one ever dies by choking on vomit. I mean, seriously, who ever heard of someone choking on…

                                    !
                                    …ooooooohh.

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                                      Well, after trying to make sense out of the senseless messes in this page, my take on the problem is: I don't think it's the boyfriend's responsibility to take care of his drunken girl. If you are a member of the human race, then it's your responsibility to help whenever whoever in that situation. What Mr.333 did is what a person normally would do.
                                      My reaction to his story was pretty much the same as Zephos:"Well, fuck, how could those kids be so fucked up?"
                                      If something like that happened in a party of my friends, the whole gang would gather around the victim and try their best to help her. Not to mention incident that big, if my classmate got a headache in the middle of the class, there would be more than one volunteer to drive him/her home.
                                      And boy does that bring me back. When I got hospitalized for Appendicitis, the whole class visited me and contributed money to buy me healthy stuff. I never actually talked to most of them, because I am kind social withdrawal. I am not close to most of them, but even so, they see it as a normal thing to care about a classmate in sickness. The same thing happens when a teacher gets sick. We don't talk big, we don't talk moral, we just do it like something take for granted.
                                      I never thought I would miss my high school class, but now I do, damn.

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                                        I see it as a matter of course as well.

                                        When I was around 16 I once came home late. Had some fun on the beach with friends. It was summer vacation.
                                        Well I got out of the bus and suddenly saw that guy laying in the gras. Then I noticed him. He was from my school. One year above me. We never talked to each other but I still kind of liked him cause he seemed to have similiar taste in music. I went to him. "Hey, are you alright? Do you need help?" He just stuttered around. He was fuckin drunk. He said he went out of an earlier bus because he had to vomit. (He lived one bus stop away from me, around 4-5km).
                                        So I told him he could sleep at my place and that I have some white bread for his stomach. He didn't want to sleep at my place but I said "Well, I won't let you lay here. So you can choose. I can bring you home or you come with me, I live right there." He eventually gave in and came with me. I lived alone so that was no problem.
                                        My room was a mess, I was happy he was drunk, haha. So yeah helped him get up my bed (I had a loft bed back then), gave him the bread and a bucket in case he needs to throw up again. I slept in the living room.
                                        Next morning when I woke up he was gone. He left a note that said "thank you" and that I need to clean my bedding, haha. And that he is sorry.
                                        Next time I met him he smiled ashamed at me. We never got in touch again.
                                        My mum flipped out when I told her the story "Are you insane? He could have raped you or-" "MUM, he was too drunk to rape!" "Doesn't matter, That's OUR flat don't invite some strangers in OUR flat! He could have robbed us!!" "Mum he was drunk and I know him from school!" Meh. Should have known her reaction from the start xD

                                        2 years ago I was in a foreign city for a practica for 6 weeks. I had a habit of spending every night in the city. Only to sit on some staircase and watching people passing by. And the lights. And the fountain.

                                        !

                                        One night I noticed an old lady in a wheelchair. She just sit their and seemed to wait for something. First I just watched. I thought perhaps she's doing the same as me. After 15min I got curious. So I went to her and asked if she needs some help.
                                        She said she's waiting for a car to pick her up. She explained that she went to theatre and normaly the one who picks her up is always the same (It's a service) but this time it's someone different so she was afraid he might not find her. I stayed with her and listened to her and tried to encourage her that she will soon get picked up. Half an hour later I had to leave to get my tram, unfortunatly. I still feel bad for leaving her. I hope she got picked up but I guess I'll never know.

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                                          I suppose responsibility is a little.. demanding? And I agree, Sea - everyone, as decent human beings, should help someone in need. But everyone sort of looks to the boyfriend in this situation and if he gives a shit enough about her to date her, I mean.. come on.

                                          I shouldn't have to quote myself, but 333 did the right thing. The human thing. I don't think anyone disagreed with that. What I was trying to point out was her point of view (which would have to do with what she said to him when she left), a 15 year old girl who's getting hammered drunk with a super cool boyfriend who doesn't care enough to look after her.

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                                            drunk right now, your still in wrong erie@!!! ahahaaa

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                                              eerie–if the girl never felt any shame, she ought to have. That would be plain old sad, and just reinforces my opinion that her moral compass is skewed, and her self esteem is sadly lacking.

                                              If you agree that she had no reason to feel shame, and that getting that drunk at that age is normal, a no big deal thing that people should just help with matter of factly, but not lecture about or treat seriously (as your "white knight=white noise" comment seems to imply), then... I have so many possible comments here, but will satisfy myself with saying I'm afraid I simply do not understand your pov.

                                              Of course if this is all a big misunderstanding, then I apologize for not understanding your pov, and await your clearer explanation of the above referenced "White Knight = white noise" comment.

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                                                Apparently this is complicated so let me use less words.

                                                She said he did too much. She said this.

                                                Why? She must have thought it wasn't a big deal and didnt appreciate it.

                                                So why would she feel ashamed.

                                                Is what he did respectable and good? Yes. Did he kind of get preachy to her, from her point of view? I think so.

                                                Does this make it easier to understand I don't share her feelings about it?

                                                the white horse thing was about everyone congratulating him, when he was asking a question about why she said that.

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                                                  The girl was wrong. Period.

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                                                    eerie–if the girl never felt any shame, she ought to have. That would be plain old sad, and just reinforces my opinion that her moral compass is skewed, and her self esteem is sadly lacking.

                                                    If you agree that she had no reason to feel shame, and that getting that drunk at that age is normal, a no big deal thing that people should just help with matter of factly, but not lecture about or treat seriously (as your "white knight=white noise" comment seems to imply), then... I have so many possible comments here, but will satisfy myself with saying I'm afraid I simply do not understand your pov.

                                                    Of course if this is all a big misunderstanding, then I apologize for not understanding your pov, and await your clearer explanation of the above referenced "White Knight = white noise" comment.

                                                    I like the word 'moral compass' πŸ˜†
                                                    I believe she is too young for to be measured with words like 'self esteem' or 'morality'. Why are we criticizing her? Don't we all learn from our mistakes?

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                                                      @eerie:

                                                      Apparently this is complicated so let me use less words.

                                                      She said he did too much. She said this.

                                                      Why? She must have thought it wasn't a big deal and didnt appreciate it.

                                                      So why would she feel ashamed.

                                                      Is what he did respectable and good? Yes. Did he kind of get preachy to her, from her point of view? I think so.

                                                      Does this make it easier to understand I don't share her feelings about it?

                                                      the white horse thing was about everyone congratulating him, when he was asking a question about why she said that.

                                                      I will point out that Mr333 not only asked why the girl said what she did, but also if she was right, and he did too much. In your post about white knight=white noise (not white horse), you implied that he did indeed do too much, saying your previous post had contained a different perspective from those sorts of "white noise" posts that celebrated him as a white knight. As I'm sure you know, "White noise" when used to describe posts implies they are filled with meaningless drivel. If that was not your intention, then the misunderstanding clearly came from your choice of words.

                                                      Eh whatever. I am not feeling well, recovering from the flu, feeling like there're weights on my arms, so I haven't enough energy to deal with what sounds like hostility from you. I have no bone to pick with you, generally find you a perfectly pleasant poster, and have nothing to prove about my intelligence, or lack thereof, either, lol. So this is my last post on the matter. I'm sorry you are feeling besieged.

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                                                      I like the word 'moral compass' πŸ˜†
                                                      I believe she is too young for to be measured with words like 'self esteem' or 'morality'. Why are we criticizing her? Don't we all learn from our mistakes?

                                                      Butternut, there is no negative connotation to the word "self esteem." I'm not sure why you think she's too young for it. It's merely a term used to describe how someone values themselves, and is often measured by actions. Going out with a guy that would get you dead drunk in order to have necro style sex hardly denotes a strong feeling of self worth, IMHO, but of course I hope she grows out of that and finds a way to expect more for herself. And FTR, I, and I believe most of the other posters here, are not critisizing the girl herself (noone called her any names or anything–and I would hazard a guess that everyone here wishes her the best), but rather her choices and actions. These are, as you suggested, easily changed by learning from her mistakes.

                                                      I do not see the use of the word "morality," but admit I'm too tired to look back through all the posts on this issue to find it, so I'll leave that unanswered.

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                                                        @eerie:

                                                        Apparently this is complicated so let me use less words.

                                                        She said he did too much. She said this.

                                                        Why? She must have thought it wasn't a big deal and didnt appreciate it.

                                                        So why would she feel ashamed.

                                                        She almost fucking died.

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                                                          In my experience we always help the person who had too much to drink, because we've all been there once and we know what it feels like.

                                                          Though the older we get, the harder we laugh. When you're 15 and you get drunk the first time it's sad and a good lesson for the future. When you're 19 and slumped on the ground, whining about how you'll never drink again, it becomes a lot harder to symphathise. But we will still look out for you (but we also put vids on YT the next day).

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                                                            I like reading Shoujo mangas :ninja: the reasons for that I leave to your imagination.

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                                                              Well they are cute. I just wish they weren't stupid as fuck. But then again, logically speaking, most shounen is also stupid as fuck. So I guess it balances out. Still, I feel like there's masterpieces left to be found in both categories as I sift through the sea of disappointment.

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                                                                I guess it's the general problem with mangas targeted at a younger audience. The only one I can think of that wasn't really ''dumb'' in terms of complexety is probably Death Note thanks to Light's constant scheming.

                                                                Shoujo I usually read for the drama as long as it's carried out nicely. Although I dislike love triangles because it usually involves the male lead being dumb as fuck and not making up his mind until the last minute. Shoujo I think is also a lot more comical than most shounen in order to make up for the lack of action like Love Hina or Hana Kimi ,however, there are also significantly darker ones like Bitter Virgin. I'm not even sure if Bitter Virgin still counts as shoujo and not a yosei after what the female lead had to go through.

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                                                                  Yeah, it could very well be that the more mature categories are where I should be looking if I'm searching for complexity and just in general, good narrative. Though I'd still have to search because there's not as many mangas in the mature category, nor are they all winners. The drama in shoujo always boils down to what you've mentioned but it can't be reprimanded too harshly since its counterpart in shounen also follows formulatic structures. Needless to say, it's all the same story and different characters.

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                                                                    Have you read Bitter Virgin? Because I think it's one of the better shoujos out there as it's not needlessly corny and gives also a nice insight on how Japanese relations work (for example what difficulties an unwed mother has to face) although it gets very dark midway through, which is not surprising considering the background theme.

                                                                    Oh, and Basara was also a good read but it's not generic shoujo either because it has some shounen themes mixed in. And a timeless classic is also the Vision of Escaflowne although it's more a borderline shoujo as well.

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                                                                      I was thinking about reading Bitter Virgin since you brought it up and it sounded interesting. That'll probably be the next manga I read. I'll check the other stuff out as well, thanks. Unfortunately, on my end, I haven't read enough shoujo to recommend something that's good. >_>

                                                                      Like I mean, really good, since it's all just generic stuff.

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                                                                        I'd like to throw Fruits Basket and Nana in here.

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                                                                          @Uncle:

                                                                          I was thinking about reading Bitter Virgin since you brought it up and it sounded interesting. That'll probably be the next manga I read. I'll check the other stuff out as well, thanks. Unfortunately, on my end, I haven't read enough shoujo to recommend something that's good. >_>

                                                                          Like I mean, really good, since it's all just generic stuff.

                                                                          Yeah, it's really hard but if you keep looking you will find some gems. Although with Shoujo it's kind of hard determing whether they're good or not right from the get-go because the genre is more character-driven than anything since the plot tends to be really simple. And finding characters interesting tends to take a lot longer than liking a plot or power system or whatever shounen clichee.

                                                                          Oh I'd also recommend Dengeki Daisy by the way. It's fairly standard but the characters are actually likeable for once, especially the female lead.

                                                                          EDIT: I thought everyone reading Shoujo has already read Fruit's Basket at some point =P but Nana is also worth checking out yes. You've got a lot to do Uncle Kenny πŸ˜†

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                                                                            as far as shoujo goes, i enjoyed ouran high school host club and kodomo no omocha.

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                                                                              As far as shoujo goes, I read Fushigi Yugi and Kare Kano when I was younger, but the only shoujo I'll probably read twice for laughs is Ouran.
                                                                              I have to admit that I was put off by it at first, but then its easy going brand of humor won me over.

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                                                                                LOL Havoc, what a cute confession!
                                                                                Actually, I sometimes like to read them too. And even though I am a girl, I consider this slightly embarassing lol
                                                                                Maybe it's because the majority of Shoujo stories and art stlyes are just really horrible and I feel bad by affiliation.

                                                                                A funny, easy going read was Otomen, atleast to a certain point. I don't know why, but at some point I stopped reading since it somehow started to annoy me. Don't know what it was exactly haha.
                                                                                An insider's tip would be Banana fish. It's a shoujo, but I don't even know why it's labeled as such to begin with. Except for maybe the fact that the author is a woman and the main character is a bit of a bishounen. But the style and the action are quite atypical. And It has a hell of a story, check it out some time.

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                                                                                  I think all anime is mediocre and emo (usually) except One Piece.

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                                                                                    I used to read a lot of shoujo, but stopped a few years ago.

                                                                                    ! My self-esteem is dropping lower and lower and I have no idea why. I haven't had a serious issue with it in years. I need to fix myself but I don't know how. (A little ironic, considering what I'm studying.) And it doesn't really help that having low confidence makes me feel weak and a little despicable. I can understand and sympathise with others' esteem problems, but not my own.

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                                                                                      ! My self-esteem is dropping lower and lower and I have no idea why. I haven't had a serious issue with it in years. I need to fix myself but I don't know how. (A little ironic, considering what I'm studying.) And it doesn't really help that having low confidence makes me feel weak and a little despicable. I can understand and sympathise with others' esteem problems, but not my own.

                                                                                      Do you have anyone to talk with? I'm sure there's more than a few member here who can lend an ear.

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                                                                                        mm. there are a few people i could talk to. i have the tendency to be overly needy when given the opportunity, though, and i'm not letting myself go there. thanks, though. πŸ™‚ i just need to identify and challenge this head-on, i guess.

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                                                                                          I have an embarrassing confession.
                                                                                          I fell in love with the heroine of a comic book series.

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                                                                                            I used to read a lot of shoujo, but stopped a few years ago.

                                                                                            ! My self-esteem is dropping lower and lower and I have no idea why. I haven't had a serious issue with it in years. I need to fix myself but I don't know how. (A little ironic, considering what I'm studying.) And it doesn't really help that having low confidence makes me feel weak and a little despicable. I can understand and sympathise with others' esteem problems, but not my own.

                                                                                            You're pretty, funny, and awesome. That's just a start but I hope it helps.

                                                                                            @THE:

                                                                                            I have an embarrassing confession.
                                                                                            I fell in love with the heroine of a comic book series.

                                                                                            Is this a Once Upon A Time story or something current? Past or present.

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                                                                                            Now here's my confession. My ultimate goal in life is to have a happy family. Simple as that but not so simple really. No other accomplishment (job, money, fame, materials) would satisfy me more.

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                                                                                              ! Well, two students in my school have died this year. What. The. Fuck. Bullshit. I didn't know the first one at all so I'm just gonna put what I've heard: he was one of the first year IB diploma program students at my highshcool. According to my sister who is in the same class, he was the lovable class clown. He died of some bullshit disease that came right the fuck outta nowhere. This not even a week after a spirit assembly.
                                                                                              ! I believe the second was in my class, the freshman. He committed suicide either last night or the morning of the day I am writing this post. I'm pretty he wasn't a super pleasant guy but that's probably because of mental illness and/or shitty home life combined with the high stress and workload of my shcool.
                                                                                              ! When the first happened earlier in the year, I was deeply saddened but I came to terms with it and got past it in time. Now that the second one has happened I'm being hit with the full force of both and hopefully posting about it here will help me get the load off my chest, if only a little bit.

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                                                                                                ! Well, two students in my school have died this year. What. The. Fuck. Bullshit. I didn't know the first one at all so I'm just gonna put what I've heard: he was one of the first year IB diploma program students at my highshcool. According to my sister who is in the same class, he was the lovable class clown. He died of some bullshit disease that came right the fuck outta nowhere. This not even a week after a spirit assembly.
                                                                                                ! I believe the second was in my class, the freshman. He committed suicide either last night or the morning of the day I am writing this post. I'm pretty he wasn't a super pleasant guy but that's probably because of mental illness and/or shitty home life combined with the high stress and workload of my shcool.
                                                                                                ! When the first happened earlier in the year, I was deeply saddened but I came to terms with it and got past it in time. Now that the second one has happened I'm being hit with the full force of both and hopefully posting about it here will help me get the load off my chest, if only a little bit.

                                                                                                Extremely sorry to hear that.

                                                                                                Just hope everything is okay at your home.

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                                                                                                  @gold: i was saddened a while ago by something similar.
                                                                                                  i think it was in 2008.

                                                                                                  Firstly there was a car crash in my village which killed the driver and passenger in one of the cars after they ran straight into a fence.
                                                                                                  i later found out that one of the victims was a girl that used to go to my school. her mother was killed too.

                                                                                                  then later on in the year another one of my old schoolmates died.
                                                                                                  this one was more hard hitting to me because she used to be in my math class, although she would regularly act out towards the teacher and cause trouble for the class.
                                                                                                  Acoording to the friends she was with, they were simply walking across a field when the girl suddenly had a quick and violent fit, threw up some orange stuff, and basically curled up and died. =[

                                                                                                  and then in 2009, my friend's ex-GF died after having an epileptic seizure.
                                                                                                  he was unsympathetic though, which got under my skin a little
                                                                                                  because i'm the kinda guy who thinks "holy shit, i knew her. i spoke to her barely last week and now she's gone forever, wtf!"

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                                                                                                    @GoldAppleFish:

                                                                                                    ! Well, two students in my school have died this year. What. The. Fuck. Bullshit. I didn't know the first one at all so I'm just gonna put what I've heard: he was one of the first year IB diploma program students at my highshcool. According to my sister who is in the same class, he was the lovable class clown. He died of some bullshit disease that came right the fuck outta nowhere. This not even a week after a spirit assembly.
                                                                                                    ! I believe the second was in my class, the freshman. He committed suicide either last night or the morning of the day I am writing this post. I'm pretty he wasn't a super pleasant guy but that's probably because of mental illness and/or shitty home life combined with the high stress and workload of my shcool.
                                                                                                    ! When the first happened earlier in the year, I was deeply saddened but I came to terms with it and got past it in time. Now that the second one has happened I'm being hit with the full force of both and hopefully posting about it here will help me get the load off my chest, if only a little bit.

                                                                                                    I wish you to feel better soon. It's really depressing to hear that two fellow students died in such a short period of time. Especially how they died.

                                                                                                    Two years ago, a boy got hit by a garbage car on his way to school. I didn't know him, but I could feel the sadness on all of the teachers and most of the students. I heard the school hired a psychologist for the class the poor boy was in.
                                                                                                    Ever since, I can't look at a garbage truck, or any car for that matter, the same way. And I'm pretty sure that's how the whole school has been feeling since then.

                                                                                                    I really wish you the best. I'm sure time will help. It's always harder at the beginning. Stay strong.

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                                                                                                      Aww, trapped :sad: . Hope you feel better soon.

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                                                                                                        @trappedolphin:

                                                                                                        I used to read a lot of shoujo, but stopped a few years ago.

                                                                                                        ! My self-esteem is dropping lower and lower and I have no idea why. I haven't had a serious issue with it in years. I need to fix myself but I don't know how. (A little ironic, considering what I'm studying.) And it doesn't really help that having low confidence makes me feel weak and a little despicable. I can understand and sympathise with others' esteem problems, but not my own.

                                                                                                        hope you get better sis 😞 , you can always talk to me , or the other fap
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                                                                                                        @GoldAppleFish:

                                                                                                        ! Well, two students in my school have died this year. What. The. Fuck. Bullshit. I didn't know the first one at all so I'm just gonna put what I've heard: he was one of the first year IB diploma program students at my highshcool. According to my sister who is in the same class, he was the lovable class clown. He died of some bullshit disease that came right the fuck outta nowhere. This not even a week after a spirit assembly.
                                                                                                        ! I believe the second was in my class, the freshman. He committed suicide either last night or the morning of the day I am writing this post. I'm pretty he wasn't a super pleasant guy but that's probably because of mental illness and/or shitty home life combined with the high stress and workload of my shcool.
                                                                                                        ! When the first happened earlier in the year, I was deeply saddened but I came to terms with it and got past it in time. Now that the second one has happened I'm being hit with the full force of both and hopefully posting about it here will help me get the load off my chest, if only a little bit.

                                                                                                        fuck man , hope you will be ok

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