The Nintendo Thread

The Franky Tank

My favorite one is Fire Emblem 7, which is the first Fire Emblem localized for the west (so just known as Fire Emblem (GBA))
Happens to be on the virtual console so it's easy to get nowadays. I have it there and also still have my original copy.

It was a perfect entry into the series thanks to Lyn's story, it had interesting maps without being brutally difficult, very lovable units and enjoyable story, and extra modes including a hard mode that didn't feel like sheer rng bullshit.

Almost forgot they put that on the virtual console. I'll have to try it out at some point, and hope they put the others on there at some point.

@Jabberwok:

Well I wasn't going to say it but…

Fire Emblem 7 is many people's favorite, including mine. It's a combination of nostalgia and the fact that the game feels very balanced without any new, untested mechanics. It's certainly not the most complex game but it does what it attempts very well. Fire Emblem 9: Path of Radiance is another popular one, for GameCube. It stars Ike from Smash Bros. Brawl.

However, if you're coming off of Awakening, FE8: Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones for GBA might be your best bet. It has a world map, potential grinding levels, and branching promotions a lot like Awakening. The potential for grinding also makes it one of the easier games, which, along with the relatively short story, makes it a somewhat controversial entry. Still a perfectly viable jumping off point though.

Somebody has to call it out, minus well admit it myself.

I wish there was a simple and cheap way to get most of these games. As far as I know, the only feasible way I might have is through other means, but I'd prefer to buy and own the games.

Noqanky

I liked the story in sacred stones, and some of the characters in it were very likable.

But at the same time I have a tremendous aversion towards the idea of world maps in a fire emblem game, and I also found some classes to be so good they were kind of broken. Like the summoner made chapters a breeze by giving you that freebie expendable zombie unit.

And yea, as a whole the game was a bit too easy. But it's still not a bad game.

Jabberwok

@The:

Almost forgot they put that on the virtual console. I'll have to try it out at some point, and hope they put the others on there at some point.

Somebody has to call it out, minus well admit it myself.

I wish there was a simple and cheap way to get most of these games. As far as I know, the only feasible way I might have is through other means, but I'd prefer to buy and own the games.

Sacred Stones was available on the eShop for free for a while when the 3DS first came out but I'm not sure it is anymore.

If you're referring to ROMs, it still might be worth checking out. There are a fair number of fan-made ROM hacks out there, mostly for the GBA era games, ranging from quite good to hilariously bad.

Nitwit

@Purple:

That thing is going to get DMCA'd so hard

Purple Hermit

@Jabberwok:

Sacred Stones was available on the eShop for free for a while when the 3DS first came out but I'm not sure it is anymore.

It was part of the ambassador program for people who bought the 3DS before the price dropped, so it's not available anymore, even for purchase on the 3DS

Jabberwok

@Noqanky:

I liked the story in sacred stones, and some of the characters in it were very likable.

But at the same time I have a tremendous aversion towards the idea of world maps in a fire emblem game, and I also found some classes to be so good they were kind of broken. Like the summoner made chapters a breeze by giving you that freebie expendable zombie unit.

And yea, as a whole the game was a bit too easy. But it's still not a bad game.

Summoners were so fun, especially once the phantoms started spawning with higher level weapons.

The game had a darker, less-fun palette though. That alone bumps the ranking down.

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Not there anymore, huh? Damn.

Cyan D. Funk

I liked Ephraim slightly more than Lyn but not as much as Hector and definitely much much more than Eliwood and Eirika.

Noqanky have you ever played Fire Emblem Gaiden/2?

Green_vs_Red

@Panekai:

I played through awakening on casual the first time just to see what it was like. I hated it. Never doing that again. Fire Emblem without permadeath just feels too easy and….wrong.

No more wrong than Lunatic flooding every map with extra enemies, wielding weapons weapons even you don't yet have access to, and success for the player being based less on effective strategy and boosting stats and more on the game's own whimsy.

Purple Hermit

@Green_vs_Red:

No more wrong than Lunatic flooding every map with extra enemies, wielding weapons weapons even you don't yet have access to, and success for the player being based less on effective strategy and boosting stats and more on the game's own whimsy.

I don't think that anyone here would disagree with you on that. Lunatic mode really isn't fire emblem at that point when it's purely a game of chance

Cyan D. Funk

Random chance has a storied history with Fire Emblem (mainly neutral units, which have ruined many a game of Thracia 776 - suggesting you made it to that part). Lunatic+ is just the first time it's intentionally applied and not incompetently applied.

I wonder if they'll change the distribution of weapon rarities - make javelins and hand axes rare stuff that you actually have to think about giving to people (which would be a first because let's be goddamn honest here the real main logistics problem in FE is enough gold to outfit everyone with multiple steel weapons.)

Noqanky

@Cyan:

I liked Ephraim slightly more than Lyn but not as much as Hector and definitely much much more than Eliwood and Eirika.

Noqanky have you ever played Fire Emblem Gaiden/2?

I haven't. The Japan-only Fire Emblems are still on my to-do list at some point, I hear particularly good things about Thracia from some rabid fans of the SNES installments.

As for lords Lyn is always easily my favorite given her swordmaster vibes, design and just overall personality. Hector is also a favorite but probably only marginally ahead of Ephraim.
I think Lyn, Hector and Ephraim are just easily some of the most interesting lords we've had in the series, and at least for Lyn the problem is she was outclassed. Hector and Ephraim though, super unique and beasts in their own right.

What also makes me forgive a lot of Sacred Stones is the whole Lyon story arc. I like how that character was handled and enjoy him as a villain more than Nergal. Though the Black Fang are also pretty likable and well-developed.

In terms of other units I like Rebecca, Florina and Nino for being unexpected badasses, Canas because who can NOT like him; Joshua for being probably the best swordmaster in the series for me; and from path of radiance I find a lot of them to be super likable, like Soren and a lot of the laguz, but more especially Nephenee, due to her design, epic halberdier skills, and same-name bias.

Cyan D. Funk

@Noqanky:

I haven't. The Japan-only Fire Emblems are still on my to-do list at some point, I hear particularly good things about Thracia from some rabid fans of the SNES installments.

They're lying to you about Thracia. Only Fire Emblem I haven't completed and I refuse to. Also it's ugly as sin and not something you can stare at for longer than an hour.

@Noqanky:

As for lords Lyn is always easily my favorite given her swordmaster vibes, design and just overall personality. Hector is also a favorite but probably only marginally ahead of Ephraim.
I think Lyn, Hector and Ephraim are just easily some of the most interesting lords we've had in the series, and at least for Lyn the problem is she was outclassed. Hector and Ephraim though, super unique and beasts in their own right.

What also makes me forgive a lot of Sacred Stones is the whole Lyon story arc. I like how that character was handled and enjoy him as a villain more than Nergal. Though the Black Fang are also pretty likable and well-developed.

Hector, Ike, and Ephraim are the Holy Trifecta of lords who can solo their games without breaking a sweat. Lyn could solo 7 too if she was a little less squishy. Eliwood being worthless, meanwhile, is hilarious and explains why Roy is so terrible.

Selena is a brilliant use of that "MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG" trope FE loves so much - probably best use of it until Zelgius throws it on it's head.

Lyon's only a compelling villain in Ephraim's path, in Eirika's it's more blatant demonic possession and Lyon only gets as far as he does because Eirika is a moron.

Noqanky

To be fair Ephraim's path is the one I took most seriously. Eirika's path always felt to me like a gaiden chapter, and the only bit I enjoy about it more than Ephraim's is Joshua's bit with being a prince.

Eirika to me feels like a boring disgrace of a lord after the boatload of personality that was Lyn. It's like they took eliwood, made the character female, and attached "female" trope weaknesses to her. Sweet heavens.

black-leg jex

Lyndis and Ike will always be my favourite lords although i do like Hector, Ephraim and Chrom a lot. Do Michaia & robin count? Neither are lord class but they are the main characters of their game and i liked both of them

Aaronrules380

LOL, it seems Bill Trinnen accidentally jumped the gun and spoiled part of the e3 plans video early, trolling tons of people in the process

Cyborg009

we got HYPE!

Purple Hermit

Training montage. Excellent.

And I guess that means Bill is participating in the World Championship

Cyan D. Funk

E3 Itinerary:

I Can't Believe the Amount of Backpedaling on the Xbone expo
Keep Calm and Sony On demonstration
Nintendo's Free Handjob and Wool Yoshi booth
Throwing Tomatoes at Konami practice
Ubisoft's BRAND NEW Open World Climbing Simulator With Hamfisted Political and Social Commentary #381
Virtual Boy Revival

black-leg jex

"Hey Bill. You're fired."

CalMc123

Now Gaiden I haven't played in a long time, but it is very good considering, how clunky FE1 was in comparison, and I've played all the games from my knowledge, even Thracia 776, which was… an experience. Still, not wholly unenjoyable, it just really, REALLY needs a better patch, the folks at Serenes Forest haven't reallybeen on that from what I hear.

And yeah FE14's new features are definitely rubbing me the wrong way, I must say, but I wasn't Awakening's biggest fan, hopefully this is an overall improvement.

MetaMario

Aaronrules380

@Cyborg009:

we got HYPE!

Song is great

You're a virtual tiger
On the back of a big lion
Who is riding a falcon
that is flying through some fire

Cyan D. Funk

@MetaMario:

What the fuck, where's the WASTED?

maxterdexter

I think that the change of the weapon durability might be a good thing.

Personaly, I rarely lost a weapon on a critical time, something meatier like a stamina stat (if you do more than x skirmishes with a character without resting a battle it will be less effective)

It's the same kind of arbitrary limit of gameplay, but in a way that trully afects you throught the game, not only in the early stages where you (as in the developer) need to try and get the atention of the player.

Certain limits are arbitrary leftovers from 20 years ago, like any lives system. When people say that "oh, you must have limited lives, if not there's no consequence of death" I point to super meat boy. Or "You must die to make the game interesting, that one prince of persia where you couldn't die was garbage because you couldn't die", not realizing that if you got beat up you died, and the "lol not dead" scenes were equivalent to respawning in an automated save point.

Oh, that's the comparation, the diference between a save point and menu based save system and a automated save. There must be a point to stop the handholding, but removing the exciting moments where you open the menu, and press save is not gameplay.

And while phoenix mode is dumb, it was enough with the just a flesh wound system, I'd like for them to accept the way that most fans play, and make it so that if you lose an unit, it marks it as a game over, as it feels.

MetaMario

@Cyan:

What the fuck, where's the WASTED?

Where does the sad music even come from?

Jabberwok

@Cyborg009:

we got HYPE!

Freakin celebrities always get the best personal trainers. All I can afford is freaking Navi.

Noqanky

Really wonder what are the sort of qualifiers for the Nintendo World Championship. And I hope there's actually one where I am seeing how it's right by Nintendo of America.

I'm intrigued, wouldn't mind attempting to compete >=D

Green_vs_Red

@Cyan:

Throwing Tomatoes at Konami practice

Suitable replacement for bombs.

@maxterdexter:

And while phoenix mode is dumb, it was enough with the just a flesh wound system,

It seems kind of meta when you think about it considering Awakening still had death quotes that weren't actually death quotes something that I wonder why is still around in Fire Emblem games after all these years.

Aaronrules380

Noqanky

Well hello new wallpaper.

I don't know who wrote that song, but it's such a brilliant piece of awesome. Well played, Nintendo.

KageKageKing

It seems that Bill wasn't ready.

KaizokuJinbei

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/19/nintendo-world-championships-2015-locations-revealed

These are the locations of the Best Buys hosting the qualifying for the Nintendo World Championships

San Francisco, CA
Torrance, CA
Miami, FL
Schaumburg, IL
Maple Grove, MN
Long Island City, NY
Dallas, TX
Tacoma, WA

Noqanky

Well damn, got to get to Tacoma somehow.

Ironically, when I lived in Miami EVERYTHING Nintendo was in Orlando. Wth man.

I honestly thought there would be more. Those locations are going to explode.

WAIT … championship mode from ultimate NES remix? Well that's stupid. Now everyone's just going to practice the fuck out of that ...
Meh, kind of disappointed, it seems so lazy.

Aaronrules380

@Noqanky:

Well damn, got to get to Tacoma somehow.

Ironically, when I lived in Miami EVERYTHING Nintendo was in Orlando. Wth man.

I honestly thought there would be more. Those locations are going to explode.

WAIT … championship mode from ultimate NES remix? Well that's stupid. Now everyone's just going to practice the fuck out of that ...
Meh, kind of disappointed, it seems so lazy.

It makes sense honestly. They need to bring each places winner to e3, which will likely involve plane tickets and a hotel as well. As for using nes remix, the stroes are going to have huge amounts of people trying out, they needed a quick way to select a winner among everyone who wants to try. Nes Remix already exists and is easy to use for this purpose. I'm not sure I'd assume the main event will use the same format

Cyan D. Funk

Qualifiers should be a gaming decathlon featuring Battletoads, Kaizo Mario, and ramming your head into a brick wall painted like the paintings from Mario 64.

Purple Hermit

It makes sense, buuuuut it's nothing I'm getting hyped for

Noqanky

@Aaronrules380:

It makes sense honestly. They need to bring each places winner to e3, which will likely involve plane tickets and a hotel as well. As for using nes remix, the stroes are going to have huge amounts of people trying out, they needed a quick way to select a winner among everyone who wants to try. Nes Remix already exists and is easy to use for this purpose. I'm not sure I'd assume the main event will use the same format

It's still lazy, and sounds dumb when you think about it. You narrow down people who can participate to eight cities, and have probably hundreds of people show up to one location that won't be prepared for such an amount of people to play, each, for a couple minutes a game that ALREADY has a leaderboard online.

It's even more insultingly sad when a couple weeks later they will demo mario maker at best buy. Why didn't they just take a couple custom stages from mario maker, put two of them in a disc along with something like a dr. luigi stage, and sent that in? It means the people showing up to the stores will actually have a challenge and be qualifying as well based on quick-witted performance at unexpected conditions.

People online right now could probably whip up a better test of skill in a couple hours.

Galaxy 9000

Club Nintendo Europe is getting even more rewards:

http://nintendoeverything.com/club-nintendo-europe-to-add-mario-kart-8-soundtrack-captain-toad-lamp-more/

black-leg jex

Aww man. Maybe i shouldn't have been so quick on my purchases. The toad lamp is sweet

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http://mynintendonews.com/2015/05/19/fire-emblem-if-mixes-up-their-weapon-triangle-system/

This is interesting. Maybe we were to quick to judge the weapon change?

Also new classes are maid/butler, great maid/butler and ninja

Jabberwok

@black-leg:

mynintendonews.com/2015/05/19/fire-emblem-if-mixes-up-their-weapon-triangle-system/

This is interesting. Maybe we were to quick to judge the weapon change?

Also new classes are maid/butler, great maid/butler and ninja

This all sounds so confusing. A few of the weapon effects make sense but some of the debuffs on the stronger weapons seem a bit much. Still would've been easier to leave the weapon/durability system as is, but I might be a little less likely to hate it now. I assume legendary weapons will have some crazy drawbacks?

Also, sounds like a magic triangle will continue to be excluded. I miss you, magic variety. Come back to me.

MetaMario

@KaizokuJinbei:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/19/nintendo-world-championships-2015-locations-revealed

These are the locations of the Best Buys hosting the qualifying for the Nintendo World Championships

San Francisco, CA
Torrance, CA
Miami, FL
Schaumburg, IL
Maple Grove, MN
Long Island City, NY
Dallas, TX
Tacoma, WA

Long Island?? Bleh.

Green_vs_Red

@Galaxy:

Club Nintendo Europe is getting even more rewards:

http://nintendoeverything.com/club-nintendo-europe-to-add-mario-kart-8-soundtrack-captain-toad-lamp-more/

Meanwhile America gets reduced prices on physical items and the same selection of downloadable games.

Noqanky

@black-leg:

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/05/19/fire-emblem-if-mixes-up-their-weapon-triangle-system/

This is interesting. Maybe we were to quick to judge the weapon change?

Also new classes are maid/butler, great maid/butler and ninja

Nope, it still sounds stupid.

It sounds like Fire Emblem becoming less Fire Emblem and more other Japanese JRPGS. I guess it probably will seem more intuitive when you have it in your hands and you're going through it and getting used, but so far the whole "affects your stats next turn" kind of confuses me more than it should.
Also, leads to thing where you wind up, for strategy, carrying weapons you don't use for attack just for proper defense. Equip a bullshit bronze weapon until the enemy attacks, then attack with a different weapon. Nothing different from before, but now you use up one more inventory spot. Huzzah!

Cyan D. Funk

The guy on the right is now the greatest Fire Emblem character ever.

black-leg jex

Who is he? Is it Gaston?

Green_vs_Red

@Cyan:

The guy on the right is now the greatest Fire Emblem character ever.

Here's hoping they don't have him speaking with a cheesy accent.

y2kyle89

@Green_vs_Red:

Here's hoping they don't have him speaking with a cheesy accent.

Unless the accent is the kind that has him use the word "JUSTICE" a lot

MetaMario

@black-leg:

Who is he? Is it Gaston?

"No one can cap stats like Gaston!"

#NohrSquad

#TeamHoshido

KaizokuJinbei

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/295153429/nintendo-digital-event-leak

!

An alleged leak of the list of games from Nintendo's E3 digital event.

MetaMario

new Metroid AND F-Zero? It seems too good to be true.

new Animal Crossing seems very likely, tho.