Well, if the queen died from Decken I don't think the princess would be so carefree towards him, more filled with hatred.
Chapter 619: "At the Sea Forest" Discussion
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finally sanji is back to his normal self as chopper pointed out many times in this chapter.Jimbei had so many face faults in this chapter it ws nice to see him become silly .The big reveal at the end to nami might make her want to kill jimbei for real.
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@Sonic:
Well, if the queen died from Decken I don't think the princess would be so carefree towards him, more filled with hatred.
Yeah i think humans have a high chance of killing her due to the hate for humans on fishman island
also lol at the posts jerk quoted.
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My respect for Jimbe just went way downhill.
this confuses me. we already knew that jimbe split off from arlong so that he could become a shichibukai, and on top of that he's trying to apologise for it…
sorry, but i just don't see it .__.
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oh, noodly!Sanji, how I missed you!
I'd love a flashback about Jinbe and the Arlong pirates, but I'm still against the idea of him joining the crew. -
Princess Pinup. Now that her dream has been fulfilled whats next for her?
Naka- is shot
And guys, I know I seem naive here, but I actually have been reading every chapter since 599, and I have been watching the Marineford Arc in the anime when I get the chance.
And as for hating Luffy because of 4Kids, it was still a first impression, and my first impression was that Luffy is an obnoxious, over (and I mean WAY over) optimistic, idiot person. Anime's are supposed to be getting away from this kind of image.
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@MDL:
this confuses me. we already knew that jimbe released arlong so that he could become a shichibukai, and on top of that he's trying to apologise for it…
sorry, but i just don't see it .__.
Wow, man, is your avatar actually from… Err, what is it, again? Powerpuff girls, right ? :blink:
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It seems that Oda is doing the SH hometown every 1/2 chapter and the other half are the places they visited.
I guess we will see.
It is pretty much normal Nami has a lot of goosebumps when her past comes. She has been a slave for for a decade.
He's doing it in the order the characters were introduced for the most part.
Dadan was an exception.
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Anybody finds it incoherent that TS Zoro could hold his breath for such a short amount of time ?
I remember Luffy staying underwater for 4 chapters before Nojiko and Genzo arrived.
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@Sonic:
Well, if the queen died from Decken I don't think the princess would be so carefree towards him, more filled with hatred.
yeah that's true…although I can't really imagine her character getting angry....maybe an ancestor? he is like the 13th right?
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So who do you think is a good shonen hero? A brooding, angst ridden asshole with no other emotions?
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Wow, man, is your avatar actually from… Err, what is it, again? Powerpuff girls, right ? :blink:
i'm not the only one.
it was a theme that started in the general board. several others have PPG avatars right now.
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soooo…I'm imagining that the queen died bieng injured by van der decken while trying to protect the princess?
Jinbe was talking about Shirahoshi suffering from Decken, not the queen.
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Naka- is shot
And guys, I know I seem naive here, but I actually have been reading every chapter since 599, and I have been watching the Marineford Arc in the anime when I get the chance.
And as for hating Luffy because of 4Kids, it was still a first impression, and my first impression was that Luffy is an obnoxious, over (and I mean WAY over) optimistic, idiot person. Anime's are supposed to be getting away from this kind of image.
you realy are serious?wow you read from chapter 599,what the hell,the manga you folow are?
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And as for hating Luffy because of 4Kids, it was still a first impression, and my first impression was that Luffy is an obnoxious, over (and I mean WAY over) optimistic, idiot person. Anime's are supposed to be getting away from this kind of image.
and yet if you'd have bothered to read the whole manga, you'd see how wrong your impression is.
if anything, more animes should be like one piece. not the other way around. -
Because Luffy represents everything Manga heroes shouldn't be.
I first got attached to this story because of the friendship and family values the SH's taught, Luffy's quest was the last reason I started following along. 4Kids's really stupid Luffy voice didn't help matters at all.
But all this is behind us, the TS has happened, and the SH's are back together, so no complaining needed now.
…. which is????
Something we have been waiting for years to find.
Well, I was following the manga, but I didn't actually read it (I had no interest in Luffy's solo story since I actually don't like Luffy at all).
I know nothing of the Sabo story and I'm just waiting diligently for the anime version.
Edit: I've seen the acronyms "CoO" and "CoA" all over this forum, can someone please tell me what these are?
Okay, can you please go away and not return till you've actualy read the damn series ? Who jumps in after 13 years of story and goes "whad did I miss ?" :getlost:
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Jinbe was talking about Shirahoshi suffering from Decken, not the queen.
yeah I just caught that :p my bad
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yeah I just caught that :p my bad
I made the same misinterpretation and got yelled at :sad:
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Naka- is shot
And guys, I know I seem naive here, but I actually have been reading every chapter since 599, and I have been watching the Marineford Arc in the anime when I get the chance.
And as for hating Luffy because of 4Kids, it was still a first impression, and my first impression was that Luffy is an obnoxious, over (and I mean WAY over) optimistic, idiot person. Anime's are supposed to be getting away from this kind of image.
You suck extremely bad, get lost.
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Because some people don't seem to get why my respect for Jimbe went down, I will explain it…
Basically, it's his fault that Nami went through 8 years of horror. That her mother died in front of her and that she collected money and everything. That a whole Island was in sorrow and hundreds of peple died.
If Jimbe wouldn't have given Arlong the order to go there, or set him free or whatever, Nami wouldn't have suffered. It's that simple.Yeah, of course he had his reasons and I'm sure he will explain himself, but for now my respect is just down.
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Yeesh, March has brought a lot of terrible posters.
And yes, I agree, if this whole time you've been thinking "when are they gonna fiiiight, jeez whats with all this development stuff, yawnnnn" then get off of One Piece's glorious lawn.
Awesome chapter, mainly since the symbol at the end screams flashbackkkk! I think it'll be the least important one of the arc, but hey, flashbacks are always pretty neat.
"All better" with Chopper tucked behind the panel made me lol. And the Sea Forest is looking gorgeous, man. Yeah, go Oda, give those anime people some trouble. And god damn, Luffy is casual about everything now (for now). I love it.
Great, great chapter.
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Even this guy appears. Oda, thanks for not throwing away characters. That's one of the things I love the most of One Piece.
Chapter 14!
Chapter 619
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Yeah I noticed that too. Can't wait to see more things like that with these covers.
Much better then Oda forcing himself to do another weak cover story like the CP9 one.
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Even this guy appears. Oda, thanks for not throwing away characters. That's one of the things I love the most of One Piece.
Chapter 14Chapter 619
Good catch. It is a good thing that Oda had all the previous volumes with him for information and accuracy. Other mangakas or film makers completely forget it.
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Because some people don't seem to get why my respect for Jimbe went down, I will explain it…
Basically, it's his fault that Nami went through 8 years of horror. That her mother died in front of her and that she collected money and everything. That a whole Island was in sorrow and hundreds of peple died.
If Jimbe wouldn't have given Arlong the order to go there, or set him free or whatever, Nami wouldn't have suffered. It's that simple.Yeah, of course he had his reasons and I'm sure he will explain himself, but for now my respect is just down.
Where was it said Jinbei ordered Arlong to go to east blue? letting him loose could have many interpretations. It oculd mean he exiled Arlong from FI. It could mean he disbanded the Sunny Pirates which got Arlong upset and led to him leaving for the east blue. Whatever it was, it's pretty unlikely he intentionally had Arlong do that stuff. I'm fairly certain this is a situation of him blaming himself through the power of hindsight
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you realy are serious?wow you read from chapter 599,what the hell,the manga you folow are?
I already explained this, I had no interest in Luffy running around solo.
As for why I don't go back and read previous chapters, well, I tried to do that, but I'd much rather watch the anime versions since I find this manga a bit hard to understand (I don't even know an attack is happening until after it happened), and I can't find any uploads on Youtube with subtitles (don't anyone suggest Bittorrent either, that's like unleashing a virus breeding ground on your computer).
FYI: I lurked on this forum for months before getting an account, for this exact reason, I knew you guys would just insult me like this… The only reason I joined was to access the Spoiler Section.
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Because some people don't seem to get why my respect for Jimbe went down, I will explain it…
Basically, it's his fault that Nami went through 8 years of horror. That her mother died in front of her and that she collected money and everything. That a whole Island was in sorrow and hundreds of peple died.
If Jimbe wouldn't have given Arlong the order to go there, or set him free or whatever, Nami wouldn't have suffered. It's that simple.Yeah, of course he had his reasons and I'm sure he will explain himself, but for now my respect is just down.
If he hadn't let Arlong loose on East Blue, Nami would have never went out to the sea and met luffy.
Jinbei is a very apologetic person, so im sure He is not the One to blame.
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I had no interest in Luffy running around solo.
what the hell does this even mean.
the only time he's truly "solo" is when he was seperated from the crew, and that's a small fraction of the overall series.
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Because some people don't seem to get why my respect for Jimbe went down, I will explain it…
Basically, it's his fault that Nami went through 8 years of horror. That her mother died in front of her and that she collected money and everything. That a whole Island was in sorrow and hundreds of peple died.
If Jimbe wouldn't have given Arlong the order to go there, or set him free or whatever, Nami wouldn't have suffered. It's that simple.Yeah, of course he had his reasons and I'm sure he will explain himself, but for now my respect is just down.
Well she looked after Nami but was not Nami's real mom just like how Ace is not Luffy's real brother.
also Jinbe probly sent Arlong and the others to east blue because fishman island is where all the strong pirates from the grand line head to so they can go into the new world not a very safe place to be.
Jinbe was probly hoping Arlong and the others would train in east blue instead of taking it over.
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I just don't know why you even want to discuss the manga if you didn't actually read it.
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Bellmere was Nami's real mom.
She just wasn't biologically her mom.
What kind of asshole denies a woman who raised a girl from infancy the title of being her mom??
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Awesome chapter. Man, Oda's background skills are superb! All those details make me happy~ :D
The cover was pretty sweet, Jimbei's expressions hilarious and Neptune for once again showed how awesome he is. Love the guy.
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Jinbe was talking about Shirahoshi suffering from Decken, not the queen.
Well she looked after Nami but was not Nami's real mom just like how Ace is not Luffy's real brother.
also Jinbe probly sent Arlong and the others to east blue because fishman island is where all the strong pirates from the grand line head to so they can go into the new world not a very safe place to be.
that sounds about right…jinbei sends arlong and crew to east blue to live a life of peace after experiencing the slavery and war and whatnot...and instead of living peacefully..arlong decides to take revenge and switch the roles around between humans and fishmen....makes sense....
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I already explained this, I had no interest in Luffy running around solo.
Are you trying to be the most hated new poster on the entire forum?
Disliking Luffy is bad enough.
But doing so for exceedingly petty stupid reasons is even worse.
And the whole "I haven't actually read jackshit of this seris" thing just puts you through the roof.
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dunno if anyone's said this already, but take a look at this:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2142-8/one-piece/chapter-69.html
i did NOT know that johnny ever said such a thing.
I knew that he told luffy and sanji about jimbei and arlong having fought alongside eachother in GL, but i didnt know that he said that jimbei sent arlong to EB. -
Well she looked after Nami but was not Nami's real mom just like how Ace is not Luffy's real brother.
Dude…what? Bellemere was Nami's mother, blood related or not. And Ace was Luffy's brother, blood related or not. That was a bit insensitive to say man.
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Also, you do realise you missed out on a huge war with the strongest man in the world ?
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@JERK:
Bellmere was Nami's real mom.
She just wasn't biologically her mom.
What kind of asshole denies a woman who raised a girl from infancy the title of being her mom??
Well the right name would be foster mom not mom
just like how Ace is Gol D Rogers son and not really Luffys real brother because Luffys dad is Dragon.This does not stop Luffy for example from calling Ace his brother but i am just pointing out it's not his real brother same with Nami.
because some people think Ace is Luffys brother and that they have the same dad and that Bellemere gave birth to Nami.
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@No:
Also, you do realise you missed out on a huge war with the strongest man in the world ?
I watched the Anime Version.
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Well the right name would be foster mom not mom
No! No it wouldn't! Even technically speaking that's not what a foster mom is!
Technically speaking she would be an adoptive mom!
But spiritually speaking, for fucks sake, she was her mom!What the hell is your problem! Do you have no idea how sensitive an issue this is??
just like Ace is Gol d rogers son and not really Luffys real brother.
This does not stop Luffy for example from calling Ace his brother but i am just pointing out it's not his real brother same with Nami.
OH GEE THANK YOU, I love annoying ass point missing literalism! More please!
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Well the right name would be foster mom not mom
just like how Ace is Gol D Rogers son and not really Luffys real brother because Luffys dad is Dragon.This does not stop Luffy for example from calling Ace his brother but i am just pointing out it's not his real brother same with Nami.
because some people think Ace is Luffys brother and that they have the same dad and that Bellemere gave birth to Nami.
Why does your posts always look like this?
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I watched the Anime Version.
Yeah, not even of the series, just of some recent shit slightly older than the pathetic amount of manga you "read".
Will you shut the fuck up already? You have nothing to add to this discussion.
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Look at the Fishman Pirates when we first saw Hyozu, Luffy got rid of them with one Gear Punch, except for Hyozu. I think Arlong was strong enough to stay at FI to train.
I am confused by the idea of releasing Arlong, what does he mean by that?
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Well the right name would be foster mom not mom
just like how Ace is Gol D Rogers son and not really Luffys real brother because Luffys dad is Dragon.This does not stop Luffy for example from calling Ace his brother but i am just pointing out it's not his real brother same with Nami.
because some people think Ace is Luffys brother and that they have the same dad and that Bellemere gave birth to Nami.
You didn't get the point, and…
@churlyryan:I watched the Anime Version.
Who the hell are you. Get out.
Look at the Fishman Pirates when we first saw Hyozu, Luffy got rid of them with one Gear Punch, except for Hyozu. I think Arlong was strong enough to stay at FI to train.
I am confused by the idea of releasing Arlong, what does he mean by that?
Couldn't Arlong just leave on his own accord?Perhaps at the time, the Sun Pirates hadn't disbanded yet, or were about to. If Arlong asked Jinbe if he could check out the East Blue, Jinbe could have said yes for whatever reason.
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Because some people don't seem to get why my respect for Jimbe went down, I will explain it…
Basically, it's his fault that Nami went through 8 years of horror. That her mother died in front of her and that she collected money and everything. That a whole Island was in sorrow and hundreds of peple died.
If Jimbe wouldn't have given Arlong the order to go there, or set him free or whatever, Nami wouldn't have suffered. It's that simple.Yeah, of course he had his reasons and I'm sure he will explain himself, but for now my respect is just down.
Did jinbei tell arlong "hey, go take over east blue and kill anyone who gets in your way"? I don't recall that. He basically just let Arlong do his own thing because he couldn't keep the crew together. Everything that happened to Nami and her village is on arlong and his gang.
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@CP9:
Did jinbei tell arlong "hey, go take over east blue and kill anyone who gets in your way"? I don't recall that. He basically just let Arlong do his own thing because he couldn't keep the crew together. Everything that happened to Nami and her village is on arlong and his gang.
Nobody knows what exactly he did right now, you don't know any of those things you just described.
Possibly what you said is right.
Or maybe he exiled him.
Or maybe he was in a blinded rage over something humans had done and did in fact order Arlong on a revenge style mission.
Or any number of other things.
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My respect for Jimbe just went way downhill.
Basically, it's his fault that Nami went through 8 years of horror.
But we knew this since East Blue.
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didnt he say once (or somebody else) he did it to not look like a 'good guy who like justice and such'?
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I watched the Anime Version.
Yet you said you didn't read the earlier chapters of this 600 plus chapter series because you disliked "Luffy going solo", yet you say you did watch an arc that is all about Luffy going solo….....
HUH ?!!
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Neptune's special move.
Ultra Marine or Aquamarine? Which one is right?