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    The episode 128 TV broadcast DID have the family ending, and here's the proof.

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    • RoboBlue
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      I wandered over to the one piece wiki, where I discovered this: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Family

      Apparently people are convinced that the first family ending was created solely by K-F for their release of episode 128.
      Here is the original TV broadcast raw of episode 127-128:
      http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D7MKBFQJ

      If you look carefully, you'll notice that the timing is slightly different from K-F's ending, because the fansub release had to be re-created using DVD raws. Unfortunately, as we all know, it wasn't released on the Japanese or American DVD sets, so this is the only known copy.

      https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913949065446850590/964418994973073479/RPReplay_Final1650004792.mov

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        There's finally proof so it's verifiable. The Japanese DVDs don't have it, so it hasn't been source-able. Now it is.

        Neat.

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          Slightly late but, thanks for this. 😃

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          Originally Posted by JERK DISEASE

          His character is dull now anyway, he's a smug little ace, I miss the part 1 Shikamaru, the dunce who was actually smart. That whole thematic world is dead and gone and I don't think Kishi even remembers it.

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            Augh! And Funimation did not include it in their DVDs? How dare they? They lied to us! We must take this to court, we must show this proof to the world! We shall have their blood! K-F shall no longer live in shame, for we now know they were right all along! This is a new day, my friends, a day of…

            Yeah, thanks for this information. Good to know.

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              LOL.

              Eh, so we were wrong. That's ONE sin that K-F has been cleared of.

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                K-F brought quality fansubs to the people. You know you watched 'em if you were a fan back in the day, so there's no need to hate on them.

                K-F|Jango

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                  well geez,

                  i can finally sleep good tonight knowing that this incredibly important groundbreaking mystery has been solved.

                  You can't be a cook if your afraid of fire!!!

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                    @Randy1031:

                    K-F brought quality fansubs to the people. You know you watched 'em if you were a fan back in the day, so there's no need to hate on them.

                    One word: Nakama

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                      here we go again

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                        I thought it was on the funi sets. Why would they leave it off? I could have sworn someone posted the dub version of the song on youtube or something on here.

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                          @Randy1031:

                          K-F brought quality fansubs to the people. You know you watched 'em if you were a fan back in the day, so there's no need to hate on them.

                          Sorry Randy, but Kaizoku Fansubs is beyond redemption. (At least, on AP it is.) There's nothing anyone can do to change that.

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                            @J-Sack:

                            One word: Nakama

                            Why's this such a big issue anyway? It's not like we're all worse off for having learned a new word.

                            https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913949065446850590/964418994973073479/RPReplay_Final1650004792.mov

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                              We're worse off because we got so many damn idiots CLAIMING WITH ALL THEIR MIGHT AND SOUL to leave the word untranslated.

                              Damn, was that annoying…..Thankfully it's been dying down, though.

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                                @Joe:

                                I thought it was on the funi sets. Why would they leave it off? I could have sworn someone posted the dub version of the song on youtube or something on here.

                                Nope. It was only on TV in Japan, not DVD. So when FUNi got the materials to work with, chances are they didn't get that from the original airing.

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                                  Would this place have even ever existed without kf?

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                                    Why's this such a big issue anyway? It's not like we're all worse off for having learned a new word.

                                    Because instead of just being a new japanese word that people learned, it became a magical word that cannot be translated ever in any circumstances and has no english equivilent.

                                    I'd even sort of accept it in OP, since there it does take on a bit of extra meaning of "shipmate, closer to family than just a friend", but then it carries over to over things and becomes ridiculous.

                                    And once you've heard the phrase "Wolverine protects his nakama!" it just sounds really stupid.

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                                      Would this place have even ever existed without kf?

                                      Yes, because Aftershock and I created it before even hearing about them.

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                                        And once you've heard the phrase "Wolverine protects his nakama!" it just sounds really stupid.

                                        Tell me who said that.

                                        I wanna smack 'em. With a glove. Fitted with jagged spikes. Right in the face. -_-

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                                          I bet half the current fanbase wouldn't even exist without Kaizoku-Fansubs.
                                          I have no great devotion to them, but if you can't appreciate what they did for the fandom, you are an idiot.

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                                            I also noticed the tv broadcast of 128 has brighter white spots in the bathhouse scene than the DVD version which looks more uncut even though it isn't.

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                                              Someone would have picked up One Piece sooner or later, KF just got there first.

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                                                I bet half the current fanbase wouldn't even exist without Kaizoku-Fansubs.
                                                I have no great devotion to them, but if you can't appreciate what they did for the fandom, you are an idiot.

                                                Let's thank FUNimation for bringing us Dragon Ball now. Without them the entire fanbase wouldn't even exist.

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                                                  Someone would have picked up One Piece sooner or later, KF just got there first.

                                                  Actually KF wasn't first, there was at least one group before them who started one piece and dropped because a rumor spread that the series was licensed (I think this was around the time Viz started the manga). By the time word got around that this wasn't true, 4kids had taken over.
                                                  There was also Neko-Factory, who skipped ahead to do current episodes (the Arabasta arc) but were horribly slow and not very well done.
                                                  KF's just the only decent-quality fansub group that stuck around.

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                                                    Nope. It was only on TV in Japan, not DVD. So when FUNi got the materials to work with, chances are they didn't get that from the original airing.

                                                    Anyone know if Funi is going to have widescreen on the DVDs for Davy Back Fight?

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                                                      It depends on the source material given to them.

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                                                        Kaizoku-Fansubs, is and still will be, the best One Piece fansub group with an awesome community.

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                                                          @Kaiolino:

                                                          Let's thank FUNimation for bringing us Dragon Ball now. Without them the entire fanbase wouldn't even exist.

                                                          I didn't say the whole One Piece fanbase, did I?
                                                          I said half of it.

                                                          And I still stand by that.

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                                                            I started on One Piece with HK subs

                                                            I found K-F way later

                                                            buttcheeks

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                                                              I found One Piece on Toonami, and personally Vegapunk and some of the later groups did a much better job. Plus I always found it difficult to introduce friends to a show where half of the script was left in a different language (e.g., nakama, gomu gomu, etc.,).

                                                              In addition, you can all go on ad nauseum thanking certain people for revving up the One Piece fanbase, but at a point it becomes a "chicken and the egg" scenario (I wouldn't have seen One Piece if it weren't for Kaizoku, I wouldn't have seen Kaizoku if I hadn't liked Dragonball, I wouldn't have seen Dragonball if it weren't for FUNimation). By doing that you perpetuate a logical fallacy that supports an argument that's fundamentally flawed in the first place.

                                                              There are numerous reasons why we got into One Piece, but I doubt most of you happened upon a Kaizoku sub and suddenly fell in love with the series. More likely than not you (1) saw the series on 4Kids and decided to give it a more thorough look, (2) saw it on Toonami or another outlet and did the same, (3) picked up the VIZ volumes or saw it in Shonen Jump, (4) was urged to watch it by a friend, (5) an earlier fansubbing group (6) saw the Hong Kong subs or the like or (7) had it beamed directly into your brain for sustenance. Kaizoku at the very most could be entitled an "enabler" for the years 2004-2007, but in no way were they the sole cause, or even the major cause, of One Piece discovery during those years. Today, it could potentially be looked at fondly, but I suggest only for nostalgic purposes. In retrospect it should seem blatantly otaku-centric and a poor quality copy of the series that we can enjoy on DVD, Hulu, or the like (and for fansubbers, in much better quality and potentially with much better English translations). Kaizoku was an emblem for its time, sure, but who said that time was a good one? The first time I read a book I may have liked it, but tastes grow over time. I hope all of yours have as well.

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                                                                @Zach:

                                                                where half of the script was left in a different language (e.g., nakama, gomu gomu, etc.,).

                                                                Oh come on, that is a huge exaggeration.

                                                                @Zach:

                                                                There are numerous reasons why we got into One Piece, but I doubt most of you happened upon a Kaizoku sub and suddenly fell in love with the series.

                                                                I did actually. Well, I read about the series online, then downloaded the fansubs.
                                                                Love followed. I wouldn't have ever got into One Piece without Kaizoku-Fansubs.
                                                                Then again they were the only option.

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                                                                  I got into One Piece by watching Tsukento's rants on the 4kids editing 😆
                                                                  But I did watch Kaizoku Fansubs first.

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                                                                    @The:

                                                                    I started on One Piece with HK subs

                                                                    I found K-F way later

                                                                    Haha, I still have those. The first 206 episodes, movies 1-5, and the first three tv specials.
                                                                    Some of the later releases were "decently" edited (you could understand what was going on), but the timing for the subtitles was way off.

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                                                                      I started OP, cuz my girlfriend at the time was reading scanslations of it online (around 2000 or 2001 at the time), but they only had volume 1-2 translated and it wasn't till Viz Shonen Jump mag that I read more, I then bought me eps 1-150 from a HK bootleg dvd set for $15 and was then living in Japan from 2005-2008.

                                                                      So I owe Nothing really to Kaizoku Fansubs, but if I want my anime sub fix then I got all the official Funimation Dvd sets so far.

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                                                                        I got into One Piece by watching Tsukento's rants on the 4kids editing 😆

                                                                        So did I. Then I read the entire manga, bought the first FUNi set that just came out and only then did I watch a few K-F fansubs. I didn't really like them though.

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                                                                          Someone would have picked up One Piece sooner or later, KF just got there first.

                                                                          Ugh. seriously GTFO.

                                                                          I hate how most people assume that One Piece was being subbed weekly like Naruto, but the reality was that OP didn't have ANY subs. I'm talking about consistency, not subbing ten episodes and stopping like Neko-Factory. K-F had to sub over 200 episodes to bridge the gap between themselves and Gerusama. Ungrateful pieces of shi….

                                                                          Not that anyone cares, but I also started with the HK subs back in '03 and was eventually introduced to K-F by Aftershock on the original AP forum. I didn't know what the hell a Torrent was though...

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                                                                            I did actually. Well, I read about the series online, then downloaded the fansubs.
                                                                            Love followed. I wouldn't have ever got into One Piece without Kaizoku-Fansubs.
                                                                            Then again they were the only option.

                                                                            You just proved him right in the same sentence you tried to say he was wrong.

                                                                            His point was, nobody just Discovered Kaizoku's version and instantly fell in love with the series, you heard about the series through that online source first. That was what got you into One Piece. Kaizoku then became the intermediary that got you the series because you chose them over the other options at the time (There were scanlations around, and Viz was starting up the manga. Plus there was a Fansubber before K-F as was said earlier)

                                                                            His point was, that nobody just went "Oh hey, look, Kaizoku Fansubs! I wonder what this is… "One Piece"? Hmm, I'll watch this, I never would have heard of it if not for K-F".

                                                                            You did not hear about it thanks to K-F, you saw something concerning it online and then that made you research further.

                                                                            I know everyone loves K-F, and they did bring people The best quality One Piece stuff during a time when 4kids was the only alternative, But they've made a lot of mistakes and unleashed some really stupid stuff onto the fanbase. Because of them, the fanbase now thinks "Nakama" is a super magical word that must never be translated ever. Because of them, pretty much all fansubbers these days feel compelled to add StUpId FlAsHy AtTaCk EfFeCtS to the video that distract from the action. And because of their attitude, there are some people who refuse to purchase an official release because the official releases actually "Translate" the show properly. They see "Seven Warlords", "Navy" and "Crewmate" or "Friend" and think the official subs are wrong.

                                                                            It's like my Late Grandfather. I loved him with all my heart, still do. I will never stop loving him. Before he passed away, he just needed to file ONE Piece of paper with the Veterans Association, and we would have continued to get his benefits. We could have paid for all of his funeral stuff and paid off all his debts with that, and we could have used the extra money coming in since we were losing his normal income. We lost our house and had to move into an apartment now. I had to drop out of college to start working full time to support the family, and we're in debt up to our eyeballs.
                                                                            We would be fine if he just filed ONE PIECE OF PAPER with the VA saying we were dependent on him and needed his money.
                                                                            I love my Grandfather, always will. But he did something REALLY stupid by not filing that piece of paper. I can admit that because its true. Even though I love him, and he's recently passed away, he fucked up.
                                                                            It doesn't effect my fond memories of him in the slightest, it's just the truth.

                                                                            K-F has unleashed a lot of REALLY stupid BULLSHIT onto this fanbase. You can love K-F, you can keep having Fond memories of them. But they unleashed the scourge of "Nakama" on this fanbase. They did something stupid, they fucked up. Just accept it.

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                                                                              And because of their attitude, there are some people who refuse to purchase an official release because the official releases actually "Translate" the show properly. They see "Seven Warlords", "Navy" and "Crewmate" or "Friend" and think the official subs are wrong.

                                                                              K-F has unleashed a lot of REALLY stupid BULLSHIT onto this fanbase. You can love K-F, you can keep having Fond memories of them. But they unleashed the scourge of "Nakama" on this fanbase. They did something stupid, they fucked up. Just accept it.

                                                                              Crazed fans who claim to refuse to buy anything less than perceived perfection exist for a lot of series, but a lot of them cave in and buy the thing they "refuse to buy", if only to complain about the horrid mistakes.
                                                                              As far as the decision to leave things untranslated goes, while the Nakama issue is mostly settled, there's been a lot of confusion over the years about how to translate Shichibukai, mainly due to the Hong Kong bootlegs (who completely wrecked almost every name in the series) and the early scanlations (supposedly these are Null), which were pretty terrible.
                                                                              It just seems like people are looking for reasons to hate K-F and not other groups that did much more harm to the fanbase; Why isn't there more hate for the H-K subbers, who did an absolutely horrible job for money alone, screwing Oda out of every cent we spent on them?

                                                                              On another note, I'm sorry to hear about your Grandfather, and I hope your family has more luck in the future with money. 😞

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                                                                                Because of them, the fanbase now thinks "Nakama" is a super magical word that must never be translated ever

                                                                                not really… , but it's better than having any of them be refered to as crewmate or friend...
                                                                                and even so... only 1 sub group actually uses it atm and only among the strawhats themself...

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                                                                                Because of them, pretty much all fansubbers these days feel compelled to add StUpId FlAsHy AtTaCk EfFeCtS to the video that distract from the action

                                                                                that's your opinion!!!!!!
                                                                                and why do you care? you like funi's way, other's don't…. who cares..
                                                                                don't like it... ignore it/them..

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                                                                                And because of their attitude, there are some people who refuse to purchase an official release because the official releases actually "Translate" the show properly

                                                                                again…. completely opinion based and just because funi has subbing rights for it, does not make their subs OFFICIAL as to regard any other form of subbing one piece...

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                                                                                They see "Seven Warlords", "Navy" and "Crewmate" or "Friend" and think the official subs are wrong.

                                                                                wrong…. not entirely....ANNOYING is more like it... not to mention "those" terms are used because there was already "copyright" on those names from 4kids and viz...

                                                                                those terms are annoying because:

                                                                                • ships/clothing/buildings/etc all clearly spell MARINE , so using navy in the subs just grinds my gears asmuch as marine does for you...
                                                                                • warlords just sounds WAY to american.... and really... they aren't even warlords to boot...
                                                                                • i have no comments on the crewmate issue , friend however wouldn't be accurate enough and just sounds weird.
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                                                                                  Ugh. seriously GTFO.

                                                                                  I hate how most people assume that One Piece was being subbed weekly like Naruto, but the reality was that OP didn't have ANY subs. I'm talking about consistency, not subbing ten episodes and stopping like Neko-Factory. K-F had to sub over 200 episodes to bridge the gap between themselves and Gerusama. Ungrateful pieces of shi….

                                                                                  Yeah, good for K-F, they subbed some episodes and put in a lot of work. I can hardly deny that can I.

                                                                                  Yeah, good for 4kids, they dubbed some episodes and put in a lot of work. I can hardly deny that can I.

                                                                                  I'm sure both of them introduced a lot of people to One Piece. Guess that means they're above criticism.

                                                                                  Now can you possibly see the problem with this retarded claim that we should always be eternally grateful to K-F as without them it would have been utterly impossible to see our Japanese episodes of One Piece for years. Or did you think no other fan subbing group would see the revenue options from subbing the third most popular anime series in America?

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                                                                                    that's your opinion!!!!!!

                                                                                    How is it her opinion that fan sub groups add flashy text effects?

                                                                                    again…. completely opinion based and just because funi has subbing rights for it, does not make their subs OFFICIAL as to regard any other form of subbing one piece..

                                                                                    Uhm actually it does. Funi is the official license holder of OP in the US. What they do is official. Learn the word.

                                                                                    wrong…. not entirely....ANNOYING is more like it... not to mention "those" terms are used because there was already "copyright" on those names from 4kids and viz...

                                                                                    4kids copyrighted the words Navy, Crewmate and Friend? You heard it here first guys, holy shit…

                                                                                    • i have no comments on the crewmate issue , friend however wouldn't be accurate enough and just sounds weird.

                                                                                    Every single Japanese to English dictionary that ever existed and probably ever will exist would like to have a word with you.

                                                                                    Or did you think no other fan subbing group would see the revenue options from subbing the third most popular anime series in America?

                                                                                    wait what?… source?

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                                                                                    Just you wait and see,

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                                                                                    Wherever you may be

                                                                                    I hope that you remember me_

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                                                                                      not really… , but it's better than having any of them be refered to as crewmate or friend...

                                                                                      But they ARE crewmates and friends. That's what nakama MEANS.

                                                                                      and even so… only 1 sub group actually uses it atm and only among the strawhats themself...

                                                                                      That's even worse.

                                                                                      again…. completely opinion based and just because funi has subbing rights for it, does not make their subs OFFICIAL as to regard any other form of subbing one piece...

                                                                                      Are you serious.

                                                                                      Of course FUNi's subs are more official than the fucking fansubs.

                                                                                      wrong…. not entirely....ANNOYING is more like it... not to mention "those" terms are used because there was already "copyright" on those names from 4kids and viz...

                                                                                      Yes, Viz and 4Kids copyrighted the words friend, crewmate and navy.

                                                                                      What.

                                                                                      Seven Warlords of the Sea is a reasonable translation for Shichibukai.

                                                                                      those terms are annoying because:

                                                                                      • ships/clothing/buildings/etc all clearly spell MARINE , so using navy in the subs just grinds my gears asmuch as marine does for you…

                                                                                      Kaigun means navy. So people who complain about it have no right to say it's wrong. The only one who's "wrong" is Oda for using the word marine.

                                                                                      • warlords just sounds WAY to american

                                                                                      Oda is greatly influenced by American things, so lol at that. Do you also ignore Franky's existence?

                                                                                      …. and really... they aren't even warlords to boot...

                                                                                      The Shichibukai aren't really military seas either.

                                                                                      • i have no comments on the crewmate issue , friend however wouldn't be accurate enough and just sounds weird.

                                                                                      LOL

                                                                                      What may I ask do you call your friends irl then???

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                                                                                        I hate you Quexinos.

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                                                                                          Kaigun means navy. So people who complain about it have no right to say it's wrong. The only one who's "wrong" is Oda for using the word marine.

                                                                                          I believe the "MARINE"-sign is either French or German. Because in those languages, "Marine" actually means Navy. (The same also goes for Norwegian and probably several other European countries, but I rather doubt Oda was referencing the Norwegian Navy.) But yes, "Navy" is indeed the correct translation of "Kaigun".

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                                                                                            Yeah, in the Netherlands we also use the word marine.

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                                                                                              I like how a simple piece of information sparked off the same tedious argument this forum has already seen time and again.

                                                                                              Why do people care about this stuff anymore.

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                                                                                                • warlords just sounds WAY to american….

                                                                                                So does the fact that they speak with an American accent in the dub bother you too?

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                                                                                                  Darkstorm: It's simple how it works. An old subject is brought up and then leads to another old subject, which leads to another…

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                                                                                                    Or did you think no other fan subbing group would see the revenue options from subbing the third most popular anime series in America?

                                                                                                    What?
                                                                                                    When did K-F or any other subbing group, ever make money?

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                                                                                                      Darkstorm: It's simple how it works. An old subject is brought up and then leads to another old subject, which leads to another…

                                                                                                      I know but I'd have thought people would have stopped caring so much anymore.

                                                                                                      I think Roboblue posted this in response to "thegreatpiratekingsomething"s general thread of KF outrage some months back, where one of kf's warcrimes was to make an edit to 128 which supposedly added the family ending.

                                                                                                      I'm not saying KF never made weird decisions(nakama, blood)…but KF barely release stuff any more, and that which they do has already been covered before so less people bother to get it - basically their "influence" such as it is, over one piece is greatly diminished.

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                                                                                                        marines and navy are damn near the same fucking thing anyway.

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