Bounty Hunter's, where are they?

Old_King

It may be that I am the only one who feels this way, but is anyone else unsatisfied with the way bounty hunters are represented in One Piece.

From what has been shown of them, there aren't really any strong or famous bounty hunter's. The most famous one shown so far is Zoro, and that's mostly because he's the first mate of the infamous Strawhat Pirate Crew. Before he joined he had a little reputation, but wasn't really known outside of the East Blue all that much.

On Shabondy Archipelago the Strawhat's fought some bounty hunter's that were weak and had generic character designs. They didn't stand the slightest of a chance against any of the Strawhats out side of the weakling trio. (maybe, but probably not them either)

I seriously have a strong desire to see at least one famous bounty hunter in the New World. One that has no affiliations to the Marines, World Government, or any Pirate Crews. Would be nice to see at least one of Shicibukai (Warlord) level bounty hunter capturing a fairly powerful New World Pirate Crew (member), Revolutionary, or ciminal in general.

Besides Johnny, Yosaku, and Zoro, I can't think of any other bounty hunter;s who have even been named. Scratch that, there's Franky's former crew from Water 7.

The world of One Piece has three powers that determine the sphere of influence and balance. The World Government, which includes all nations under they're power, and the Navy/Marines, and all they're little secret organizations like the Cipher Pols. The Yonkou (4 Kings, 3 Kings now), and the lesser pirate crews they control, and the islands they control. The Shicibukai (Warlords) and the crews that they control assuming they have one in the first place, or the organizations, and countries they control. The Revolutionaries possibly could be included in this grouping considering they have people like Dragon, Ivankov, and formerly Kuma.

I know One Piece is a Pirate manga, and from what I've studied they mostly fought Navy's and native militias, and citizens. But there are cases where Pirates we're killed by professional bounty hunter's and turned in for a reward.

The way bounty hunter's are barely represented just makes me annoyed is all that I decided to articulate my feelings on this a little bit.

The bounty hunter's could be a 4th if not 5th power behind the Revolutionaries. I could picture a company sort of like Baroque Works led by some uber powerful guy on par with the Yonkou and Admirals. It would add more diversity to the already extremely diverse world of One Piece.

MetaMario

Yeah….I've always wanted to see more Bounty Hunters that weren't just fodder.

Hopefully, we'll see plenty of strong ones in the New World.

Johnny B. Decent

If we haven't seen any real powerful ones so far, we aren't going to in the New World. A place where the four most powerful Pirate crews reside isn't good for much fodder. Besides, the Marines allow people like Smoker and the Shichibukai to do it, so whatever.

MagiciteKefka

I always believed that all of strongest will be gathering in the New World.

Where else are the strongest, most wanted pirates at?

Old_King

@S.C.:

If we haven't seen any real powerful ones so far, we aren't going to in the New World. A place where the four most powerful Pirate crews reside isn't good for much fodder. Besides, the Marines allow people like Smoker and the Shichibukai to do it, so whatever.

Yes, but wouldn't you love for someone who didn't have to answer to anyone make a living off capturing the strong and famous pirates. Oda needs to step his game up of this front. Plus the Shicibukai are pirates, not bounty hunters.

Silverblade

Baroque Works.

16 characters of Bounty Hunter Conglomerates.

Johnny B. Decent

@Old_King:

Yes, but wouldn't you love for someone who didn't have to answer to anyone make a living off capturing the strong and famous pirates. Oda needs to step his game up of this front.

Not really. There probably are some, but still fodder going up against the likes of Brownbeard or that crew Kidd killed. I can't think of any of them going after a Yonkou or any of his allies without said Yonkou going to wreck their shit.

Old_King

@S.C.:

Not really. There probably are some, but still fodder going up against the likes of Brownbeard or that crew Kidd killed. I can't think of any of them going after a Yonkou or any of his allies without said Yonkou going to wreck their shit.

A bounty hunter crew or organization could…

Outerspec

With all these bounties on pirates it's actually surprising we don't see more bounty hunters.

GetsugaZoro

Y giving the bounties and then not having none strong enough to collect them its lamme yeah, I hope there some kind of Bounty Hunters arc in the New World.

Johnny B. Decent

@Old_King:

A bounty hunter crew or organization could…

Means more of a mess to clean up. Think about it: Say a bunch captured Doma. Do you honestly think if Whitebeard went to get him back, and they decided to fight, Whitebeard or any of the other three would not kill them?

Old_King

@S.C.:

Means more of a mess to clean up. Think about it: Say a bunch captured Doma. Do you honestly think if Whitebeard went to get him back, and they decided to fight, Whitebeard or any of the other three would not kill them?

Depends on the size of the organization, and the nature of the allies they have if they have any in the first place. Say for example you have a grouping a 4 islands where the main job is bounty hunting, and plenty of them are strong, even for the New World. I could see them standing up to a Yonkou. Say they got one of Kaidou's and he doesnt have a real like whitebeard where if you hurt one of his crew everyone coming for you. I could see bounty hunter standing up to a Yonkou.

Silence

in the graves on whiskey peak

Johnny B. Decent

@Old_King:

Depends on the size of the organization, and the nature of the allies they have if they have any in the first place. Say for example you have a grouping a 4 islands where the main job is bounty hunting, and plenty of them are strong, even for the New World. I could see them standing up to a Yonkou. Say they got one of Kaidou's and he doesnt have a real like whitebeard where if you hurt one of his crew everyone coming for you. I could see bounty hunter standing up to a Yonkou.

The Yonkou are some of the strongest people alive, and their regular crewmembers have been shown to be very strong even then. Even counting early Zoro, who was strong by East Blue standards, we have seen almost no strong bounty hunters. Any four of them would eat them alive. It's like taking a squirt gun against a anti-tank rifle.

Zik

A lot of us have been unsatisfied with the lack of formidable bounty hunters in the series.

Now we just hope they're all in the New World.

SGRaaize

Yeah, I am expecting some tough Bounty Hunters over at the New World

Old_King

@S.C.:

The Yonkou are some of the strongest people alive, and their regular crewmembers have been shown to be very strong even then. Even counting early Zoro, who was strong by East Blue standards, we have seen almost no strong bounty hunters. Any four of them would eat them alive. It's like taking a squirt gun against a anti-tank rifle.

Exactly the reason I wish there were some shicibukai level bounty hunters out there. There really should be considering the number of pirates and mairines out there. Someone who is of upper tier new world level at some point had to think he/she could be racking in tons of dough by taking down all those infamous pirates.

I say shicibukai because mihawk and shanks used to be one the same level. now shanks is a yonkou, so a bounty hunter on mihawks level could potentially take down a yonkou in a one-on-one fight.

Mortea

@Old_King:

Besides Johnny, Yosaku, and Zoro, I can't think of any other bounty hunter;s who have even been named. Scratch that, there's Franky's former crew from Water 7.

You forgot sugar daddy(that bully who picked up on Usopp for the googles in Logue town). And he is not filler that much. Oda even showed design for him, saying that he intended to insert him.

r1ncewind

@Silverblade:

Baroque Works.

16 characters of Bounty Hunter Conglomerates.

I have seen the term "16 characters" used alot of times in the forum.. what does it mean?

Johnny B. Decent

@Old_King:

Exactly the reason I wish there were some shicibukai level bounty hunters out there. There really should be considering the number of pirates and mairines out there. Someone who is of upper tier new world level at some point had to think he/she could be racking in tons of dough by taking down all those infamous pirates.

I say shicibukai because mihawk and shanks used to be one the same level. now shanks is a yonkou, so a bounty hunter on mihawks level could potentially take down a yonkou in a one-on-one fight.

The problem is A. There is no "Shichibukai level of strength". Compare Crocodile and Moria to Kuma and Doflamingo, B. If there was such a man/woman, eventually a conflict between him/her and a Yonkou would be inevitable, and we are back to my discussion.

And C. Mihawk is probably equal to post-Time Skip Blackbeard as the strongest of Shichibukai. It's not so easy to be on his level.

Thatanas

@r1ncewind:

I have seen the term "16 characters" used alot of times in the forum.. what does it mean?

Every post must have at least 16 characters in it. So people use 16 chars or 16 characters to get to that minimum with short posts like No or Baroque works :)

r1ncewind

@Thatanas:

Every post must have at least 16 characters in it. So people use 16 chars or 16 characters to get to that minimum with short posts like No or Baroque works :)

Ah, I see.. that does make sense!

GoustiFruit

Mihawk is a bounty hunter. Well, he does it more for fun than for money but he likes to hunt for pirates.

eerie

@Thatanas:

Every post must have at least 16 characters in it. So people use 16 chars or 16 characters to get to that minimum with short posts like No or Baroque works :)

Nah.

Supa64

@eerie:

[qimg]http://www.neurillion.com/p/35/static/media/images/1x1t.gif[/qimg]Nah.

Lolwut? I call hacks.

eerie

Anyways, the lacking of bounty hunters in the first half of the grandline is still saddening. Not all bounty hunters are goin to migrate directly to the New World - they have to make their way there in both location and strength to even be competitive. Now that that's gone, hopefully Oda makes it up in the New World. Pirates catching pirates (Blackbeard and Bonney), even for blackmail, wasn't what I had in mind.

Ruhpool

The best place for BH prolly would be SA, FI and wherever youll got out in the NW. In these places the pirates come to you…

So maybe well gonna see on FI or in the new world some

Chopper Madness

maybe half of the next arc will be a bout bounty hunters and the other about slave traders

Silverblade

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HikaruYami

@eerie:

Nah.

You're just showing off.

Supa64

@eerie:

Anyways, the lacking of bounty hunters in the first half of the grandline is still saddening. Not all bounty hunters are goin to migrate directly to the New World - they have to make their way there in both location and strength to even be competitive. Now that that's gone, hopefully Oda makes it up in the New World. Pirates catching pirates (Blackbeard and Bonney), even for blackmail, wasn't what I had in mind.

Have we actually had a devil fruit bounty hunter?

ultEmate

@Supa64:

Lolwut? I call hacks.

no hacks

kenjai7373

do we really need bounty hunters? i dont think they will bring anything to the plot of one piece, other than increase the fights, unless theres some bounty hunter that wants one piece as well. but he would of been better off being a pirate instead.

Old_King

@S.C.:

The problem is A. There is no "Shichibukai level of strength". Compare Crocodile and Moria to Kuma and Doflamingo, B. If there was such a man/woman, eventually a conflict between him/her and a Yonkou would be inevitable, and we are back to my discussion.

And C. Mihawk is probably equal to post-Time Skip Blackbeard as the strongest of Shichibukai. It's not so easy to be on his level.

Im just saying shicibukai as a general area of strength, which from my standpoint i'd say Moria was the weakest in my opinion. Not saying he was always the weakest since he went toe to toe with Kaidou, all though it could of been a very young Kaidou who is nowhere near his current level of power.

The shicibukai are some of the strongest characters introduced, but im sure there are non marine/pirate characters who are of near the same levels of power.

Old_King

@GoustiFruit:

Mihawk is a bounty hunter. Well, he does it more for fun than for money but he likes to hunt for pirates.

I don't think Oda ever stated if Mihawk was a pirate, or in general a very powerful person with a big reputation. But if he isn't one then why in the hell is he one of the seven pirate warlords.

Old_King

@kenjai7373:

do we really need bounty hunters? i dont think they will bring anything to the plot of one piece, other than increase the fights, unless theres some bounty hunter that wants one piece as well. but he would of been better off being a pirate instead.

Instead of all the pirate vs pirate and marine vs pirate fights we could have something new. Maybe some powerful pirate like Kaidou has a girlfriend who is a pirate but very few know of the relationship. She captured and turned in because she has a descent bounty. Kaidou finds out and sends some of his descent crew members to kill the bounty hunter, but they are defeated an turned in for money too. Now Kaidou has lost face. A Yonkou losing face could have great implications in a world like One Piece where the balance of power is so brittle.

ItalianAce

i believe we wil never see some bounty hunter strong like yonku or shikubai…..
the marines are the bounty hunter......
i see n reason to do an arc agains a bounty hunter...It will be crew against a single man.....if the bounty hunter do some organizzaition like barok works they could be considerated like a pirate crew...

tentacles

The bottom line is, any bounty hunter strong enough to take on big ticket pirates will be considered to be a pirate by the WG - they can't afford to have strong ppl going around starting shit all over the world. Bounty hunters are notorious for not respecting the law as well, which would also place them on the WG's shitlist.

Robo Gorilla

@Supa64:

Have we actually had a devil fruit bounty hunter?

Many members of Baroque Works.

@Old_King:

I don't think Oda ever stated if Mihawk was a pirate, or in general a very powerful person with a big reputation. But if he isn't one then why in the hell is he one of the seven pirate warlords.

It's implied, but never stated. I just don't see any reason to think he isn't a pirate.

@tentacles:

The bottom line is, any bounty hunter strong enough to take on big ticket pirates will be considered to be a pirate by the WG - they can't afford to have strong ppl going around starting shit all over the world.

Why put bounties on people's heads in the first place if you don't want any outisde help? It's the marine's/ other government soldiers job to catch the criminals, so bounties wouldn't serve any purpose at all.

Gecko Moria

Everyone seems to forget that Baroque Works agents were bounty hunters. You can't ignore Baroque Works; a third of the Grand Line was dedicated to them! That said, there has been a lack of good bounty hunters since then.

Silverblade

Everyone is so forgetful.

Gecko Moria

It was a figure of speech.

I meant that people were ignoring his comment.

Exo

We would not have seen any good Bounty Hunters if they are all working in the New World. Logically there's no reason for a strong bounty hunter to be in the Grand Line, the profit would pale in comparison to the New World.

Old_King

@Exo:

We would not have seen any good Bounty Hunters if they are all working in the New World. Logically there's no reason for a strong bounty hunter to be in the Grand Line, the profit would pale in comparison to the New World.

point (damn 16 characters bull crap)

SGRaaize

I wonder, though
Oda has already a bunch of enemies ready for the SH's, probably stuff for all the arcs already
Can Bounty Hunters really fit in?
I can see them in the Wano Country and in the Elbaf Island, but I wonder if they would fit anywhere else, maybe with DoFlamingo?

KidCorpse

The story is only about half way finished right now. With several hundred more chapters to go, we'll see some bounty hunters again.

nefra

By my opinion the strongest bounty hunter so far was Daddy Masterson a.k.a Daddy the Fatherloguetown

GetsugaZoro

@Silverblade:

Everyone is so forgetful.

We know there are bounty hunters, we mean strong ones, Baroque Works were most likelly all of them former pirates at the time, there are also bounty hunters in Sabaody.

The thread is not about bounty hunters not existing.

Outerspec

@SGRaaize:

I wonder, though
Oda has already a bunch of enemies ready for the SH's, probably stuff for all the arcs already
Can Bounty Hunters really fit in?
I can see them in the Wano Country and in the Elbaf Island, but I wonder if they would fit anywhere else, maybe with DoFlamingo?

Well, we've seen bounty hunters kidnap Camie and that made for an interesting development. I think they can fit in if they try to screw over the SH's in a manner like that. Kidnapping one of the crew members but then it'd just turn into another Rescue [Insert Character's Name] Arc.

Or they can just be really strong opponents that are after the SH's heads which would make for a very good fight. It'd be kinda random like when the Foxy Pirates engaged the SH's (Davy Back Fight) but it'd be fun.

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The reason I don't think a lot of people refer to Baroque Works is because the members didn't act like normal bounty hunters. Their main purpose under Crocodile's rule was to turn Alabasta on itself. Collecting bounties was a second priority. I think people just want to see a strong group of bounty hunters who go after the SH's just because they have high bounties. Showing there are people out there taking these bounty posters seriously and have the man power to accomplish it.

The Flying Fish Riders were a joke. Baroques Works was more concentrated on Alabasta and ultimately the organization was created for Crocodile to acquire Pluto. The Whiskey Peak bounty hunters were apart of Baroque Works and were all fodder.

It makes sense what some people are saying here, we should run into stronger ones in the New World where most of the higher bounty pirates are.

Edit: Actually, the Flying Fish Riders aren't bounty hunters but the bounty hunters the SH's did fight on Sabaody Archipelago were all fodder.

@nefra:

By my opinion the strongest bounty hunter so far was Daddy Masterson a.k.a Daddy the Fatherloguetown

Filler yes?

Mingo22

The statement of Zoro being famous only within the east blue is false.

Crocodile in the grand line heard of him and sent him an offer. So he wasn't all that small time.

Also Bounty hunters if they are worth their salt wouldn't be in the first half of the grandline. They'll be in the new world. And the Strawhats are suppose to be amongst the high tier rookies. It's not that the bounty hunters we've seen are weak. Its just our main protagonists are strong.