Hey guys, how would you want One Piece to end (in 8 years when it WILL end). Would you like Oda or someone else to make a "generation 2" or something like that. Or would you want to see the crew still together and sailing? How would you want it to finish?
I personally wouldn't mind a generation 2 of one piece as long as Oda writes it, since so far we have not been let down by him. But if someone else is gonna do it, i'd rather have one piece end with Luffy's (maybe) final words.
If there IS gonna be a sequel ,which may or may not happen , because while they respect Oda's word aparently , to a devree at least , lots of less popular stuff gets sequels , like MAR Omega or Yu Gi Oh R , but if it happens it will be done by asistants . The original mangaka will only be credited as an inspiration .
I don't think we need a repeat of Dragon Ball GT. Dragon Ball Z didn't end so well but still, probably should have been left alone like One Piece should be.
Well it's really popular, so I think it's almost certain it'll get a sequel. But it's a little too early to discuss that. (I don't think Oda would do a sequel, I expect him to end the series. Then someone do a not so good series). Anyway, it's still far away…
Moria will be the Pirate King.
Moria the Great…
Well it's really popular, so I think it's almost certain it'll get a sequel. But it's a little too early to discuss that. (I don't think Oda would do a sequel, I expect him to end the series. Then someone do a not so good series). Anyway, it's still far away…
lol, yeah live his life the same way as Toriyama.
lol, yeah live his life the same way as Toriyama.
- Make successful series
- Series Z and succeed even more
- Have TOEI screw you over with a non-canon series that fails horribly
Well, we can't really do anything about that… One Piece should eat the Only-Only Fruit, that makes it the only One Piece series ever. No sequels.
I saw this "end" theory here which I myself like very much (altough some parts are wrong now, as this is old, it's still a very good theory imho):
I think that in the True History (Void history), there were indeed pirates that had tried to take over a kingdom. The kingdom tried to defend themselves using an ancient weapon (pluton, poseidon, ect). However, the pirates also had ancient weapons, and managed to take over the kingdom. The pirates, then used the ancient weapon to seperate the ocean around that land, making it unreachable. This causing the land to split apart, and creating the 4 blues (north, south, west, and east), the red line, and the grand line. The name of the pirates were called the world government pirates (marines), that's why they have their own (pirate) flag. The ancient kingdom recorded all the events into what are known today as poneglyphs, but the only one to record the great war between them and the world government, along with the events that happened during that time was the rio poneglyph.
Hundreds of years later, Roger had indeed found the Rio Poneglyph at the end of the Grand Line. Upon reading the rio poneglyph, he found out that he himself, along with the people with "D" in their names were "Desendents" of the ancient kingdom. The survivors of the great war put "D" in their names to remind everyone that they will one day "Dethrone" the world government pirates hence, the "Will of D". Knowing the True History, he intended to "Dethrone" the World Government, but he knew himself was not nearly strong enough to go against the world. He then sacrificed himself to the marines/World Government, and told everyone of 'One Piece'. He made it sound like a great treasure, hoping to get the rest of the world involved, and this started what is known as "The Great Age of Pirates". Roger hopes that by doing this, one day a strong group of pirates will reach Raftel, find the True History, and fulfill the "Will of D" by "Dethroning" the World Government.
At the end of "One Piece", I think that of course, the Straw Hat pirates will reach Raftel and read the Rio Poneglyph (Robin's dream). Knowing the True History, Luffy intends to carry out the "Will of D", and starts a revolution. Soon there will be a huge battle between the Straw Hats(and whoever decides to join them), and the World Government(With the rest of the Shichibukai, Admirals, Gorosei etc.) In the end, the Straw Hats should emerge victorious, and fire Pluton(Or another ancient weapon). After firing the weapon, the world shakes, and somehow the Red Line forms together with the islands, creating one whole piece of land, also called ''One Piece'' (Luffy's dream). Also, with the 4 blues formed together, instead of being named, North, East, South, West, it will simply be called, ''All Blue'' (Sanji's dream). And the person who unites the world will be known as "The Pirate King".
Thank you–
Wow ^. Very interesting thought, also everyone above, i think there will be a second series but it might get ruined. I also have a similar thought of what you said about the one piece, but i think Roger, as he said left his fortune there as well. So if your theory is correct, there should be all of Roger's treasure there. Also why didn't Whitebeard or Shanks, instead of stopping at each island for days, just set sail, stop, get a internal pose already set, and sail till the end of the grandline till the found One Piece.
Don't forget that "treasure" may have a different meaning than gold etc, like how Luffy's treasure is his Hat. So Rogers treasure that he left may be something that was important for him, and useless for somebody else.
How do you guys think One Piece will end? Will everyone's dreams come true? What about Gol D. Roger? Do you think he's really dead?
@Mister:
Will everyone's dreams come true?
But of course. I'd expect nothing less.
What about Gol D. Roger? Do you think he's really dead?
The first chapter showed his last words on the execution stand…..so yes.
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Though it is highly possible that the author could write it in a way that some people may die before The Straw Hat Pirates reach One Piece. And what if the treasure's not there. What if thats what One Piece means? That only "one piece" of the treasure is there with a note telling where the rest of the treasure is?
Don't forget that "treasure" may have a different meaning than gold etc, like how Luffy's treasure is his Hat. So Rogers treasure that he left may be something that was important for him, and useless for somebody else.
Your very right, but doesn't that mean Roger would be deceiving millions of people who are setting sail to find that treasure? In one way there has to be treasure with it. Also in pictures seen of Roger (so far) we haven't seen something (like luffy's hat) with sentimental value, and if there was, i don't think he would leave it with One Piece.
Moria will be the Pirate King.
Lol nahh :D, maybe if he had a smaller ship, or else theres too much space for enemies to get in lol.
Well yeah I think he will be deceiving people. I agree with the speculation I posted - Roger created the era and OP hoping that a strong crew that can make a difference reaches Raftel and learns the True History. I think WB's dying words confirm this.
No treasure or stuff like that imho.
lol, yeah live his life the same way as Toriyama.
- Make successful series
- Series Z and succeed even more
- Have TOEI screw you over with a non-canon series that fails horribly
To my knowledge Dragonball is all one series(save for GT of course). The 'Z' is anime only, meaning it had nothing to do w/ Toriyama.
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To my knowledge Dragonball is all one series(save for GT of course). The 'Z' is anime only, meaning it had nothing to do w/ Toriyama.
Yes it is, but since GT was anime only and talking about what TOEI does, that's why I mentioned Z.
I saw this "end" theory here which I myself like very much (alto there are some wrong parts now, this is old):
I think that in the True History (Void history), there were indeed pirates that had tried to take over a kingdom. The kingdom tried to defend themselves using an ancient weapon (pluton, poseidon, ect). However, the pirates also had ancient weapons, and managed to take over the kingdom. The pirates, then used the ancient weapon to seperate the ocean around that land, making it unreachable. This causing the land to split apart, and creating the 4 blues (north, south, west, and east), the red line, and the grand line. The name of the pirates were called the world government pirates (marines), that's why they have their own (pirate) flag. The ancient kingdom recorded all the events into what are known today as poneglyphs, but the only one to record the great war between them and the world government, along with the events that happened during that time was the rio poneglyph.
Hundreds of years later, Roger had indeed found the Rio Poneglyph at the end of the Grand Line. Upon reading the rio poneglyph, he found out that he himself, along with the people with "D" in their names were "Desendents" of the ancient kingdom. The survivors of the great war put "D" in their names to remind everyone that they will one day "Dethrone" the world government pirates hence, the "Will of D". Knowing the True History, he intended to "Dethrone" the World Government, but he knew himself was not nearly strong enough to go against the world. He then sacrificed himself to the marines/World Government, and told everyone of 'One Piece'. He made it sound like a great treasure, hoping to get the rest of the world involved, and this started what is known as "The Great Age of Pirates". Roger hopes that by doing this, one day a strong group of pirates will reach Raftel, find the True History, and fulfill the "Will of D" by "Dethroning" the World Government.
At the end of "One Piece", I think that of course, the Straw Hat pirates will reach Raftel and read the Rio Poneglyph (Robin's dream). Knowing the True History, Luffy intends to carry out the "Will of D", and starts a revolution. Soon there will be a huge battle between the Straw Hats(and whoever decides to join them), and the World Government(With the rest of the Shichibukai, Admirals, Gorosei etc.) In the end, the Straw Hats should emerge victorious, and fire Pluton(Or another ancient weapon). After firing the weapon, the world shakes, and somehow the Red Line forms together with the islands, creating one whole piece of land, also called ''One Piece'' (Luffy's dream). Also, with the 4 blues formed together, instead of being named, North, East, South, West, it will simply be called, ''All Blue'' (Sanji's dream). And the person who unites the world will be known as "The Pirate King".
Thank you–
This really is an amazing theory and I would be shocked if some of it were not true (though as any OP fan knows - Oda is impossible to predict - I am sure the actual end to OP will not disappoint.)
EDIT: as far as an anime sequel, I would not put it past Toei to make a subpar piece of garbage. I would love to see Oda make something of a spiritual sequel that takes place in the same universe as OP but I want the end of OP to be the end of the story of the starwhat pirates (meaning I never want to see them in any kind of sequel personally). I sure as hell wouldn't mind a prequel by Oda about Gol Rogers rise to fame but I expect Oda to do something completly differant once OP is over (like a robot manga).
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don't think there will be a sequel to One Piece just because it is so bloody long and although it is his own story I think Oda might get tired of it after Luffy reached his goal. If he were to start a sequel it would be bloody long again probably.
I would find it very interesting (to say the least) if Oda were to make another Manga that is totally different. Maybe Seinen with a truely dark mood like Berserk but of course totally different. But that is just me hoping of course. Wondering if he'd be able to pull it off.
And WTF, I have never read a better prediction than Wind_Falcon's
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Even if it wouldn't come true it was a great read and it sounds really really good. I would be okay with One Piece ending this way.
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don't think there will be a sequel to One Piece just because it is so bloody long and although it is his own story I think Oda might get tired of it after Luffy reached his goal. If he were to start a sequel it would be bloody long again probably.
lol I could see Oda after OP is done for a few years saying something like 'OK I am going to do a sequel but only for 1 arc and it will only last about six months' and in end it will be like a four year epic.
The idea that there might ever be an epilogue/ending showing the strawhats older and married with children is the horror that keeps me from sleeping at night.
(I was sooo traumatized by Digimon it's not even funny xD and Harry Potter).
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The idea that there might ever be an epilogue/ending showing the strawhats older and married with children is the horror that keeps me from sleeping at night.
(I was sooo traumatized by Digimon it's not even funny xD and Harry Potter).
Oda can make that work. He is a better story teller then JK Rowling and whoever the hell made Digimon.
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Oda can make that work. He is a better story teller then JK Rowling and whoever the hell made Digimon.
Wouldn't characters being married and having children go against his "no romance in OP" rule, though? 
maybe it'll become one of those strange Rurouni Kenshin OVA's. The DRAMA !
Wouldn't characters being married and having children go against his "no romance in OP" rule, though?
I didn't say I wanted that to happen and I don't think it will. That is not what One Piece is about. One Piece is about dreams and adventure. I was just saying that Oda could make it work if he wanted too because he is an amazing storyteller. (Oda has hinted at a possible future romance between Luffy and Boa though imo)
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The idea that there might ever be an epilogue/ending showing the strawhats older and married with children is the horror that keeps me from sleeping at night.
(I was sooo traumatized by Digimon it's not even funny xD and Harry Potter).
Off-topic HP talk:
[hide]Yeah, but Harry Potter went south long, long, loooooong before The Epilogue. Try book 5. Cracks start appearing in 4. A year after reading it, I could barely remember book 6 (I just had a vague sense that I'd felt sorry for Draco in some way). Book 7 was just plain boring. [/hide]
So, as One Piece is about half over, I can only pray that it will never become the mess HP did.
Anyway, One Piece is obviously going to end with Luffy wearing a pink frilly dress. The One Piece.
Yeah, I prefer not to make too many predictions about ongoing series. Takes some of the fun out of it for me. Though I know it will involve the ancient weapons in some way or form. Those need to be destroyed, or they will remain a threat.
I do believe that Oda said somewhere that he has no plans to do another long series like One Piece ever again. I honestly can see why. It must be incredibly draining.
It'll end awesomely.
Off-topic HP talk:
[hide]Yeah, but Harry Potter went south long, long, loooooong before The Epilogue. Try book 5. Cracks start appearing in 4. A year after reading it, I could barely remember book 6 (I just had a vague sense that I'd felt sorry for Draco in some way). Book 7 was just plain boring. [/hide]
So, as One Piece is about half over, I can only pray that it will never become the mess HP did.
Anyway, One Piece is obviously going to end with Luffy wearing a pink frilly dress. The One Piece.
Yeah, I prefer not to make too many predictions about ongoing series. Takes some of the fun out of it for me. Though I know it will involve the ancient weapons in some way or form. Those need to be destroyed, or they will remain a threat.
I do believe that Oda said somewhere that he has no plans to do another long series like One Piece ever again. I honestly can see why. It must be incredibly draining.
You say it like being so long is a bad thing.
I didn't say I wanted that to happen and I don't think it will. That is not what One Piece is about. One Piece is about dreams and adventure. I was just saying that Oda could make it work if he wanted too because he is an amazing storyteller. (Oda has hinted at a possible future romance between Luffy and Boa though imo)
I know, I know. What I meant was that if he chose to have everyone married, it would go against his no-romance rule.
Although he has gone against his rules before.
And that reminds me. Anyone in this thread who said the Straw Hats could die before they find One Piece (not directed at you city lights), you're silly. Of course they won't.
I know, I know. What I meant was that if he chose to have everyone married, it would go against his no-romance rule.
Although he has gone against his rules before.
And that reminds me. Anyone in this thread who said the Straw Hats could die before they find One Piece (not directed at you city lights), you're silly. Of course they won't.
Luffy can die AFTER or WHILE getting One Piece. That would make a little sense, i guess.
I have always hated the idea of Luffy dying right after achieving his dream (same for all the strawhats).
I agree. Luffy "just" becoming Pirate King and then dying would disappoint me a bit. I would like him to, yeah, actually live his dream, being free and enjoying it and whatnot.
I have always hated the idea of Luffy dying right after achieving his dream (same for all the strawhats).
@Nia:
I agree. Luffy "just" becoming Pirate King and then dying would disappoint me a bit. I would like him to, yeah, actually live his dream, being free and enjoying it and whatnot.
Exactly. Him dying would be so…...un-Oda like and a bad way to end the manga.
Exactly. Him dying would be so…...un-Oda like and a bad way to end the manga.
Well, Luffy's definition of pirate king (his dream) is a person who can set sail in the sea and sail freely. So far Luffy has achieved part of his goal of that. But i agree it wouldn't be cool if he or any other sh's died. But i think Blackbeard will be arrested after luffy beats the crap out of him at the end of the grandline. (predictions)
Well, Luffy's definition of pirate king (his dream) is a person who can set sail in the sea and sail freely.
I always found this odd. Don't get me wrong, I love the sentiment and the romantic quality of it and I think it fits OP and Luffy very well it's just…isn't the Pirate King the most wanted person on the planet (maybe save for the top revolutionaries on the planet)? How can that be freedom? Kuro couldn't even handle a <20 mil bounty in the calmest ocean in the world because of the harassment of the WG and bounty hunters. Wouldn't it be infinitely worse for the PK?
I do understand that Luffy's mentality is almost the exact opposite of Kuro's and that by the time Luffy is the PK the world will probably be a very differant place (the WG might have met it's end and Luffy may even be seen as a hero.)
Like I said I always just found this odd.
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I always found this odd. Don't get me wrong, I love the sentiment and the romantic quality of it and I think it fits OP and Luffy very well it's just…isn't the Pirate King the most wanted person on the planet (maybe save for the top revolutionaries on the planet)? How can that be freedom? Kuro couldn't even handle a <20 mil bounty in the calmest ocean in the world because of the harassment of the WG and bounty hunters. Wouldn't it be infinitly worse of the PK?
I do understand that Luffy's mentality is almost the exact opposite of Kuro's and that by the time Luffy is the PK the world will probabbly be a very differant place (the WG might have met it's end and Luffy might be seen as a hero.)
Like I said I always just found this odd.
Let's say Whitebeard, it was confirmed that he has tied with Gol D. Roger before, but Roger was obviously stronger since he was the Pirate King. If nobody can oppose Whitebeard till the day they put all their forces in one and bearly survived, just versus Whitebeard and allies what makes you think somebody can stop the Pirate King in the middle of the ocean. Even Whitebeard. The government can't stop any of their major threats in sea. The only way they can stop just ONE, is if they take all the forces, Shichibukai, admirals, vice admirals, marines, officers, EVERYTHING. Just to take one pirate crew down, (and the 43 from the new world + luffy, but thats not the point). Whitebeard has enough power to destroy the OP world and/or destroy all of marine Hqs and such. Whos gonna stop him? What makes you think Shanks survived, and the other younkous.
Let's say Whitebeard, it was confirmed that he has tied with Gol D. Roger before, but Roger was obviously stronger since he was the Pirate King. If nobody can oppose Whitebeard till the day they put all their forces in one and bearly survived, just versus Whitebeard and allies what makes you think somebody can stop the Pirate King in the middle of the ocean. Even Whitebeard. The government can't stop any of their major threats in sea. The only way they can stop just ONE, is if they take all the forces, Shichibukai, admirals, vice admirals, marines, officers, EVERYTHING. Just to take one pirate crew down, (and the 43 from the new world + luffy, but thats not the point). Whitebeard has enough power to destroy the OP world and/or destroy all of marine Hqs and such. Whos gonna stop him? What makes you think Shanks survived, and the other younkous.
Very good point. If the WG is still standing by the time Luffy is the PK it won't matter because Luffy will be such an insane badass at that point that too maybe defeat the SHs the WG would have to go all out (similar to the recent war). Point taken.
I forgot how scared the WG was of WB and Shanks simply interacting or the possibility of Silvers joining the war.
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Very good point. If the WG is still standing by the time Luffy is the PK it won't matter because Luffy will be such an insane badass at that point that too maybe defeat the SHs the WG would have to go all out (similar to the recent war). Point taken.
I forgot how scared the WG was of WB and Shanks simply interacting or the possibility of Silvers joining the war.
I don't think Luffy will be badass as Whitebeard because of Whitebeards power can do more then 1v1, but luffy will be strong with his Haki, when it comes to weak crews Luffy's Haki will take em all out at once.
Also, the WG can't just do that war everytime, you have to keep in mind, imagine if all the police in your town and all authority everywhere went somewhere far away.. What would happen? Chaos. So the WG risked it this time because of the situation but they can't keep that up.
Also i would like Oda to show us Luffy sailing the grandline once more after pirate king.
I saw this "end" theory here which I myself like very much (alto there are some wrong parts now, this is old):
I think that in the True History (Void history), there were indeed pirates that had tried to take over a kingdom. The kingdom tried to defend themselves using an ancient weapon (pluton, poseidon, ect). However, the pirates also had ancient weapons, and managed to take over the kingdom. The pirates, then used the ancient weapon to seperate the ocean around that land, making it unreachable. This causing the land to split apart, and creating the 4 blues (north, south, west, and east), the red line, and the grand line. The name of the pirates were called the world government pirates (marines), that's why they have their own (pirate) flag. The ancient kingdom recorded all the events into what are known today as poneglyphs, but the only one to record the great war between them and the world government, along with the events that happened during that time was the rio poneglyph.
Hundreds of years later, Roger had indeed found the Rio Poneglyph at the end of the Grand Line. Upon reading the rio poneglyph, he found out that he himself, along with the people with "D" in their names were "Desendents" of the ancient kingdom. The survivors of the great war put "D" in their names to remind everyone that they will one day "Dethrone" the world government pirates hence, the "Will of D". Knowing the True History, he intended to "Dethrone" the World Government, but he knew himself was not nearly strong enough to go against the world. He then sacrificed himself to the marines/World Government, and told everyone of 'One Piece'. He made it sound like a great treasure, hoping to get the rest of the world involved, and this started what is known as "The Great Age of Pirates". Roger hopes that by doing this, one day a strong group of pirates will reach Raftel, find the True History, and fulfill the "Will of D" by "Dethroning" the World Government.
At the end of "One Piece", I think that of course, the Straw Hat pirates will reach Raftel and read the Rio Poneglyph (Robin's dream). Knowing the True History, Luffy intends to carry out the "Will of D", and starts a revolution. Soon there will be a huge battle between the Straw Hats(and whoever decides to join them), and the World Government(With the rest of the Shichibukai, Admirals, Gorosei etc.) In the end, the Straw Hats should emerge victorious, and fire Pluton(Or another ancient weapon). After firing the weapon, the world shakes, and somehow the Red Line forms together with the islands, creating one whole piece of land, also called ''One Piece'' (Luffy's dream). Also, with the 4 blues formed together, instead of being named, North, East, South, West, it will simply be called, ''All Blue'' (Sanji's dream). And the person who unites the world will be known as "The Pirate King".
Thank you–
Very good theory, although there are some things I disagree with.
I don't know about you, but it seems sort of dickish for Gold Roger to just be all like "Yeah, find my treasure, it's great, have an adventu-FUCK YOU, IT'S A PONEGLYPH, GO FIGHT THE GOVERNMENT. It makes sense, but it really goes against the free-spirited adventure of the manga for the One Piece to just be a lie. While Gold Roger probably did want to pass the truth along, there must be something more to gain than just that. Additionally, Whitebeard confirmed that the treasure does indeed exist, so it's highly unlikely that Luffy would get there only to not find an actual treasure. Instead, let me expand on that theory of yours.
Gold Roger did indeed have a treasure, and he hid it on Raftel. We know from Crocus that the only crew ever documented to have successfully sailed to Raftel was Roger's crew. Also, apparently there's some specific method needed to get to Raftel, that only Roger and his crew knows. But, also, the Rio Poneglyph was on Raftel, therefore, it can be gathered that someone long ago, from the Void Century, also knew how to get there. And nobody, save for Roger, has been there since.
So here's my theory. Roger spent a great deal of his life collecting information about the true history, on what the ancient kingdom was, how the World Government came into power, and, most importantly, about the ancient weapons. Using the poneglyphs he and his crew came across, he was able to find a decent amount of artifacts, including one of the weapons. If the Government was somehow able to get a hold of any of that, the consequences would be disastrous, and it all would be forever lost, so he sought out a way to protect it. And so, he managed to find a way to Raftel, to find the final piece of the great puzzle. However, when he and his men arrived, they found more than just the Rio Poneglyph. They also discovered the final hideout of the last remaining members of the ancient kingdom, who had spent their last days on the island, keeping their kingdom alive for a bit longer, to leave evidence that they weren't simply a country of conquerors who had only weapons, that they also knew peace and freedom. Gold Roger found this, and promptly decided to end his voyage right there. He knew his life was coming to a close, and he wouldn't be able to lead the charge against the Government with the time he had left, so instead he opted to see Rouge one last time, and then turn himself in. Thus, he left every artifact he had collected on Raftel, for someone else to find. And before he died, he challenged the world, knowing that a successor would come and carry out his dream, so the legend wouldn't die. "You want my treasure? You can have it! I left everything I gathered together in one place! Now, you just have to find it!" He found the true history, and all the answers, but simply knowing was not going to change anything. All he could leave was merely One Piece of an ideal world, where dreamers could live free.
Without going into detail since I can never predict Oda (>_>) I don't actually want the manga to end on too much of an abrupt note. Personally, I'd prefer an epilogue of some sort, such as showing Luffy after the last big fight/adventure, or maybe with him as Pirate King and Smoker or Coby clashing with him, the way Roger and Garp did. Personally, I'd like to see Coby since I can't imagine what kind of situation that'd be. They're technically friends XD It'd probably be a bit awkward. Or even the beginning of the next adventure. Something of a gentle decline rather than a heavy energy end right after the defeat of whoever the last boss ends up being.
After everyone has fulfilled their goals they go on a final adventure.
Giant hole, millions of cariverous insects flying out to eat.
Luffy: You guys ready?
Everyone: Yes.
The End.
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After everyone has fulfilled their goals they go on a final adventure.
Giant hole, millions of cariverous insects flying out to eat.
Luffy: You guys ready?
Everyone: Yes.The End.
That reminds me of how Angel (the Joss Whedon show) ended. It drove me fucking mad!
Regardless of how it ends I have full trust in Oda. Hell, we are, RIGHT NOW, going threw the biggest change in OP history and I am hardly worried at all because I trust Oda so much.
I don't want to seem to Narutoish about this father son thing. But look at Shanks. Luffy resembles him so much. Especially the young Shanks in episode 8. He has to be his father.
