This is the new discusion on this movie.
This was pretty awsome. Danny Elfman was the singing voice of our favorite midgets. Plus they added a scene of a young Willy Wonka with Chris Lee!
This was a good movie and though Wonka will always be Gene Wilder to me, Depp did a damn good job.
Best Quote-
Willy Wonka: Everything in this room is eatable.
Charlie: Could you eat the grass?
Willy Wonka: Of course everything in this room is eatable. Even me, But That`s call canibleness and thats frowned upon in most societies. Now go ahead and enjoy!
XD
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I liked the movie a lot, and thought Depp did a great job… but his version of Willy seemed a bit more mean-spirited and bitter than Gene's verion. The original Willy Wonka wasn't mean... he just wasn't really totally aware of what was going on around him.
At least, that was my take on it. Gene Wilder seemed a lot more benign and had a sort of child-like innocence/ignorance. Johnny Depp was downright grumpy in a few places.
But this version of Willy Wonka was intentionally darker, so I can't really hold it against him.
But I thought the movie was great, and I LOVED Danny Elfman doing all the music and voices for the Oompa Loompas ^_^
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I've got one question about the movie: Did Tim Burton put in some kind of gothic twist into it? He's quite known for that <_< …
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Originally posted by Solar Knight@Jul 26 2005, 01:43 PM
I've got one question about the movie: Did Tim Burton put in some kind of gothic twist into it? He's quite known for that <_< …
[snapback]97072[/snapback]Oh yes… I would say he did >.>
I mean, just look at Willy! O_O!
It was as gothic as you can make a movie that uses a lot of vivid colours and imagery can be...
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i loved this movie. it wa funny. yea jonny depp did look weird
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I don't really like the whole goth thing on Wonka, it seems forced to me. It seems like Tim Burton only made it like that because he was expected to.
I've heard good things about this movie, but I still don't plan on seeing it… Gene Wilder will always be Willy Wonka to me.
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I haven't seen the new one yet, but I plan to.
I have my doubts though, since Gene Wilder will always be Wonka to me.
Yeah, I know: EVERYONE is saying that. But there is a reason, most of the people who see remakes or Episode I and II of Star Wars and complain are attached to that memory as a child of being amazed at Gene Wilder as Wonka or the Star Wars series before the prequels.
(A craptacular reason, I know. But at least it's something.)
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Originally posted by Konis@Jul 26 2005, 02:54 PM
**Oh yes… I would say he did >.>I mean, just look at Willy! O_O!
It was as gothic as you can make a movie that uses a lot of vivid colours and imagery can be...
[snapback]97085[/snapback]**He doesn't really look gothic to me, even though Johnny Depp got his inspiration from Marilyn Manson.
One other question (full of 'em): Did the Oompa Loompa's have singing bits? That was my favorite parts in the original.
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They do have singing bits, but totally different from the old movie.
The new one is more based on the book, so differences are to be expected.
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yeah the Oompa Loompa's songs came straigt from the book this time so they are different. i enjoyed the movie although in the middle of it some idiot in the car infront of us turned on his lights so it made it hard to see (i saw it at a drive in theater)
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There are still drive-in theaters these days? I sseem to learn something new every day…
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this like took the last movie and wiped it's bum bum with it./ This is now one of my favorite movies, i've seen it twice. Burton did a great job and Depp is incredible. He is exactly like someone who hasnt seen a single person for 15 years would act, unlike the last movie. It's just so much better especially with the whole willy wonka backstory.!
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Yeah, the Oompa Loompas definately sang… Danny Elfman did ALL of the singing voices of the Oompa Loompas. It was absolutely insane o.o I love Danny so much. As long as Danny works with Tim Burton, I will always see his films.
I agree, Gene Wilder will always be Willy Wonka... but this remake was pretty good. I enjoyed it a lot, and it didn't really hurt my memories of the original. Depp's Willy Wonka was very different from Wilders... one one hand you have a bitter, immature, and lonely Wonka (Depp) while on the other you have a generally kind, friendly, and somewhat oblivious Wonka (Wilder).
Hahaha... when they said how Violet was from Atlanta, Georgia... everyone in my theatre cheered.
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i haven't seen it yet, i should go to the cinema tonight. i really liked the book (like every roald dahl book) so i'm impatient.
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This movie was awesome.
But they did have to change Mike Teavee from a gun toting kid to a kid who loves his PS games.
And Veruca's nut incident?
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looking forward to watching this, i really have to watch the original, i never watched it before because gene wilder annoyed me for some reason.
gets beaten bloody by a mob of willy wonka fans
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it's a damn book, who cares about the original movie? i don't understand the importance of comparing the movies
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it's not "important" in the sense that eradicating poverty is important,
but it's important to me nonetheless. lighten up. ^^ -
If you want to know what the lyrics are for the songs, here they are-
""Augustus Gloop…"
(from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)
"Augustus Gloop! Augustus Gloop!
The great big greedy nincompoop!
How long could we allow this beast
To gorge and guzzle, feed and feast
On everything he wanted to?
Great Scott! It simply wouldn't do!
However long this pig might live,
We're positive he'd never give
Even the smallest bit of fun
Or happiness to anyone.
So what we do in cases such
As this, we use the gentle touch,
And carefully we take the brat
And turn him into something that
Will give great pleasure to us all–
A doll, for instance, or a ball,
Or marbles or a rocking horse.
But this revolting boy, of course,
Was so unutterably vile,
So greedy, foul, and infantile
He left a most disgusting taste
Inside our mouths, and so in haste
We chose a thing that, come what may,
Would take the nasty taste away.
'Come on!' we cried, 'The time is ripe
To send him shooting up the pipe!
He has to go! It has to be!'
And very soon, he's going to see
Inside the room to which he's gone
Some funny things are going on.
But don't, dear children, be alarmed;
Augustus Gloop will not be harmed,
Although, of course, we must admit
He will be altered quite a bit.
He'll be quite changed from what he's been,
When he goes through the fudge machine:
Slowly, the wheels go round and round,
The cogs begin to grind and pound;
A hundred knives go slice, slice, slice;
We add some sugar, cream, and spice;
We boil him for a minute more,
Until we're absolutely sure
That all the greed and all the gall
Is boiled away for once and all.
Then out he comes! And now! By grace!
A miracle has taken place!
This boy, who only just before
Was loathed by men from shore to shore,
This greedy brute, this louse's ear,
Is loved by people everywhere!
For who could hate or bear a grudge
Against a luscious bit of fudge?"Back to Table of Contents
"Violet Beauregarde..."
(from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)
"Dear friends, we surely all agree
There's almost nothing worse to see
Than some repulsive little bum
Who's always chewing chewing gum.
(It's very near as bad as those
Who sit around and pick the nose).
So please believe us when we say
That chewing gum will never pay;
This sticky habit's bound to send
The chewer to a sticky end.
Did any of you ever know
A person called Miss Bigelow?
This dreadful woman saw no wrong
In chewing, chewing all day long.
She chewed while bathing in the tub,
She chewed while dancing at her club,
She chewed in church and on the bus;
It really was quite ludicrous!
And when she couldn't find her gum,
She'd chew up the linoleum,
Or anything that happened near–
A pair of boots, the postman's ear,
Or other people's underclothes,
And once she chewed her boy friend's nose.
She went on chewing till, at last,
Her chewing muscles grew so vast
That from her face her giant chin
Stuck out just like a violin.
For years and years she chewed away,
Consuming fifty packs a day,
Until one summer's eve, alas,
A horrid business came to pass.
Miss Bigelow went late to bed,
For half an hour she lay and read,
Chewing and chewing all the while
Like some great clockwork crocodile.
At last, she put her gum away
Upon a special little tray,
And settled back and went to sleep–
(She managed this by counting sheep).
But now, how strange! Although she slept,
Those massive jaws of hers still kept
On chewing, chewing through the night,
Even with nothing there to bite.
They were, you see, in such a groove
They positively had to move.
And very grim it was to hear
In pitchy darkness, loud and clear,
This sleeping woman's great big trap
Opening and shutting, snap–snap–snap!
Faster and faster, chop–chop–chop,
The noise went on, it wouldn't stop.
Until at last her jaws decide
To pause and open extra wide,
And with the most tremendous chew
They bit the lady's tongue in two.
Thereafter, just from chewing gum,
Miss Bigelow was always dumb,
And spent her life shut up in some
Disgusting sanatorium.
And that is why we'll try so hard
To save Miss Violet Beauregard
From suffering an equal fate.
She's still quite young. It's not too late,
Provided she survives the cure.
We hope she does. We can't be sure."Back to Table of Contents
"Veruca Salt..."
(from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)
"Veruca Salt, the little brute,
Has just gone down the garbage chute,
(And as we very rightly thought
That in a case like this we ought
To see the thing completely through,
We've polished off her parents, too.)
Down goes Veruca! Down the drain!
And here, perhaps, we should explain
That she will meet, as she descends,
A rather different set of friends
To those that she has left behind–
These won't be nearly so refined.
A fish head, for example, cut
This morning from a halibut.
'Hello! Good morning! How d'you do?
How nice to meet you! How are you?'
And then a little further down
A mass of others gather round:
A bacon rind, some rancid lard,
A loaf of bread gone stale and hard,
A steak that nobody could chew,
An oyster from an oyster stew,
Some liverwurst so old and gray
One smelled it from a mile away,
A rotten nut, a reeky pear,
A thing the cat left on the stair,
And lots of other things as well,
Each with a rather horrid smell.
These are Veruca's new found friends
That she will meet as she descends,
And this is the price she has to pay
For going so very far astray.
But now, my dears, we think you might
Be wondering–is it really right
That every single bit of blame
And all the scolding and the shame
Should fall upon Veruca Salt?
Is she the only one at fault?
For though she's spoiled, and dreadfully so,
A girl can't spoil herself, you know.
Who spoiled her, then? Ah, who indeed?
Who pandered to her every need?
Who turned her into such a brat?
Who are the culprits? Who did that?
Alas! You needen't look so far
To find out who these sinners are.
They are (and this is very sad)
Her loving parents, MUM and DAD.
And that is why we're glad they fell
Into the garbage chute as well."The most important thing we've learned,
So far as children are concerned,
Is never, NEVER, NEVER let
Them near your television set–
Or better still, just don't install
The idiotic thing at all.
In almost every house we've been,
We've watched them gaping at the screen.
They loll and slop and lounge about,
And stare until their eyes pop out.
(Last week in someone's place we saw
A dozen eyeballs on the floor.)
They sit and stare and stare and sit
Until they're hypnotised by it,
Until they're absolutely drunk
With all the shocking ghastly junk.
Oh yes, we know it keeps them still,
They don't climb out the window sill,
They never fight or kick or punch,
They leave you free to cook the lunch
And wash the dishes in the sink–
But did you ever stop to think,
To wonder just exactly what
This does to your beloved tot?
IT ROTS THE SENSES IN THE HEAD!
IT KILLS IMAGINATION DEAD!
IT CLOGS AND CLUTTERS UP THE MIND!
IT MAKES A CHILD SO DULL AND BLIND
HE CAN NO LONGER UNDERSTAND
A FANTASY, A FAIRYLAND!
HIS BRAIN BECOMES AS SOFT AS CHEESE!
HIS POWERS OF THINKING RUST AND FREEZE!
HE CANNOT THINK–HE ONLY SEES!
'All right!' you'll cry. 'All right!' you'll say,
'But if we take the set away,
What shall we do to entertain
Our darling children? Please explain!'
We'll answer this by asking you,
'What used the darling ones to do?
'How used they keep themselves contented
Before this monster was invented?'
Have you forgotten? Don't you know?
We'll say it very loud and slow:
THEY...USED...TO...READ! They'd READ and READ,
AND READ and READ, and then proceed
To READ some more. Great Scott! Gadzooks!
One half their lives was reading books!
The nursery shelves held books galore!
Books cluttered up the nursery floor!
And in the bedroom, by the bed,
More books were waiting to be read!
Such wondrous, fine, fantastic takes
Of dragons, gypsies, queens, and whales
And treasure isles, and distant shores
Where smugglers rowed with muffled oars,
And pirates wearing purple pants,
And sailing ships and elephants,
And cannibals crouching 'round the pot,
Stirring away at something hot.
(It smells so good, what can it be?
Good gracious, it's Penelope.)
The younger ones had Beatrix Potter
With Mr. Tod, the dirty rotter,
And Squirrel Nutkin, Pigling Bland,
And Mrs. Tiggy–Winkle and–
Just How The Camel Got His Hump,
And How The Monkey Lost His Rump,
And Mr. Toad, and bless my soul,
There's Mr. Rat and Mr. Mole–
Oh, books, what books they used to know,
Those children living long ago!
So please, oh please, we beg, we pray,
Go throw your TV set away,
And in its place you can install
A lovely bookshelf on the wall.
Then fill the shelves with lots of books,
Ignoring all the dirty looks,
The screams and yells, the bites and kicks,
And children hitting you with sticks–
Fear not, because we promise you
That, in about a week or two
Of having nothing else to do,
They'll now begin to feel the need
Of having something good to read.
And once they start–oh boy, oh boy!
You watch the slowly growing joy
That fills their hears. They'll grow so keen
They'll wonder what they'd ever seen
In that ridiculous machine,
That nauseating, foul, unclean,
Repulsive television screen!
And later, each and every kid
Will love you more for what you did.
P.S. Regarding Mike Teavee,
We very much regret that we
Shall simply have to wait and see
If we can get him back his height.
But if we can't–it serves him right.http://chocolatefactorymovie.warnerbros.com/soundtrack/ Listen here
Surprisingly the only song kept from the book in Gene Wilders version was not in this one. The one where Wonka is singing on the boat.
I have a question. At the end of the film, after you see every one of the brats after they left the factory, it is obvious that Augustus became part fudge, Mike became stretched, and Veruca was covered in trash, but why was Violet more flexible? I dont understand.
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Violet was more flexible…. because of what they did to fix her. Do you remember what they said they'd have to do?
Spoiler, kinda:
They had to juice her, like you would any other sort of fruit. Just like Mike and the taffy puller, a juicer's going to do weird things to your body… noteably, take all the juice out of your body o.o.
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Oh thanks.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Charlie%20and%…HNlYwNiZ3NpYg-- These are 29 second clips of the songs. For the oompa loompa songs, parts of the songs were taken out. If any, i believe Verucas song was kept the most.
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Gary "Iceman" Martin. RIP.
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I saw it on Sunday and I loved it. It's was interesting on how they had Willy's backstory as well as different genres of music for the Oompa Loompa songs. I personally didn't think that movie was gothic aside from a FEW scenes…
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@Solar:
I saw it on Sunday and I loved it. It's was interesting on how they had Willy's backstory as well as different genres of music for the Oompa Loompa songs. I personally didn't think that movie was gothic aside from a FEW scenes…
Not gothic per se… but gothic when compared to the original. Like I said, it's as gothic as a movie with brilliant colours and scenery can get
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I'm wondering if I should watch this movie seeing that this is the no 1 for Us box offfice. Well, Willy's past was never really revealed in the book right? And his actor's kinda wierd too XD
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Go. Everyone I know loved this movie. Hell even my cousins who dont like crap unless its action or sex comedy.
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The truth is I hate the oompa loompa songs. I like the old ones better.XD
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…techno umpa loompas.. that's all i gotta say. that and tim burton + johnny depp = much much MUCH love.
