The tattoo was real if look at luffy's arm you can see that he has a bandage or a armband where the tattoo was. This great end to part one of one piece. I cant wait to see how the straw hats going to look when we see them again.
Chapter 597: "3D2Y" Discussion
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@$abZ:
I always wondered why Blackbeard was having an orgasm about his DF ability cancelling out other DF abilities when haki pretty much does the same.
Err…no, it doesn't. Blackbeard's df completely shuts the power down, for example Akainu would be unable to use lava powers, whereas a haki hit doesn't stop the user from using his powers.
@RPG:
better start watching the anime guys.
I wouldn't inflict that on my worst enemy
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@$abZ:
I always wondered why Blackbeard was having an orgasm about his DF ability cancelling out other DF abilities when haki pretty much does the same.
Yeah also saying to ACe that he isn`t used to the fact that he can be punched…i mean in the NW there should be some Haki user Ace already fighted against^^
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So this means Sentoumaru is the worlds most powerful Armor Haki user?
i think he said marines, but anyway there are more uses than just one that each type can do.
he may have mastered and have the best DEFENSE, but that is just one thing that the armor haki can do
hell maybe he can't even do a simple thing like put it into an arrow.
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I'm laughing at all the people who thought the time skip would be measurable in single digit weeks…
we all our toy, we all our.
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@$abZ:
I always wondered why Blackbeard was having an orgasm about his DF ability cancelling out other DF abilities when haki pretty much does the same.
Not really imo. If that would be the case, half of the New World guys could easily beat the admirals, just imbue their bullets or swords with haki and bamm.
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I love this manga.
I have 100% confidence in Oda, if anyone can pull off a succesfull several year (2y) timeskip, it's him.
I hope the characters get a lot of development, new looks and new skills. This way the timeskip feels like an actual timeskip, not just a magic trick to advance training. The world will evolve, Strawhats fame and glory will fade, enemies will get stronger, world will change.
In the end, it seems very much that part 2 of One Piece will be almost like a "reset" for the manga.
-The world we are about to enter is completely unfamiliar ("New World"), just like when manga started.
-The direction of the story is completely open, just like when manga started
-The world is filled with exciting new characters we have never seen before, just like when manga started (all old characters have gotten development, thus they are new)
-We can look forward to new powers and abilities, we have no idea what main characters have in their pockets, just like when manga started
-Yet, when we enter, we will see the familiar faces we all love: the Strawhats.I predict that tears will be shed when the manga finally returns, tears of joy. I know at least I will.
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<--Is very exited about the timeskip. 2 years is not "too long". Remember, during the part 2 the Strawhats will have to be able to fight equally with Yonkou, WG Admirals (perhaps all of them at the same time even), Blackbeard and other supernova. 2 years actually feels very little training for me. -
the only problem i have with one piece AND the time skip in general is that in 2 years…won't OTHER pirates have gotten far along the grandline to have FOUND one piece???...I just don't understand...
Can you tell me why do you believe that some other pirate will find one piece in 2 Years when in over 20 Years NO pirate has found One Piece???
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Can you tell me why do you believe that some other pirate will find one piece in 2 Years when in over 20 Years NO pirate has found One Piece???
BB is on the move :ninja:
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@Don:
Yeah also saying to ACe that he isn`t used to the fact that he can be punched…i mean in the NW there should be some Haki user Ace already fighted against^^
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-441/page011.htmlNot likely, top guys will have haki but remember Ace was a big name player even in the New World and he could stomp most of the people there (stuff like Ace subduing Doma's gang on his lonesome for example). Also keep in mind Rayleigh saying 2 years isn't nearly enough to learn how to use the different types effectively.
What Blackbeard's fruit did was stop Ace using any of his powers, which threw him off for sure. That is something haki users cannot do, and that is why Blackbeard was talking about overconfident users who rely far too much on their fruit.
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I was like "WTF?" when I see 3D2Y.
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@Don:
Yeah also saying to ACe that he isn`t used to the fact that he can be punched…i mean in the NW there should be some Haki user Ace already fighted against^^
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-441/page011.htmlBut remember, Blackbeard was in Ace's division. He probably saw Teach fight before and said, "Can you use Haki' "Nope, never learned it". Then Ace would be a bit surprised.
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Luffy trained by Raleigh
Zoro trained by MihawkHaki doesn't explain Zoro's power…..
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I originally disliked the idea of a time skip for OP, cause the crew will be so much behind compared to the other supernovas. But maybe Oda-sensei wants to establish a more dangerous new world within 2 years. Maybe in 2 years Blackbeard will show his domination in the new world.
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Not really imo. If that would be the case, half of the New World guys could easily beat the admirals, just imbue their bullets or swords with haki and bamm.
Thing is it's still up in the air what the logias do to dodge haki hits, as we saw with Akainu who had his neck slashed with haki from Vista and Marco. He suffered no damage whatsoever. Same with Aokiji and Kizaru when Whitebeard stabbed them. They either disperse on reflex or use the armour haki to counter it themselves.
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@Don:
BB is on the move :ninja:
True, but BB doesn't seem strong enough to the point where he can get the One Piece in just two years. A two year skip without One Piece being obtained is plausible.
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True, but BB doesn't seem strong enough to the point where he can get the One Piece in just two years. A two year skip without One Piece being obtained is plausible.
A 2 year period is almost nothing, lest anyone forget, its been 20 fucking years since Roger died and no one has found the One Piece yet.
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so is the OPverse have years that are made up of 48 weeks? Cause I don't really get the whole 48 seasons thing in that case.
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Yeah, definitely wasn't expecting a 2 year timeskip but it really does make sense. I'm excited to see what comes next.
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Thanks to everyone who brought the chapter.
Well…I think we've reached a crucial point here at this "dividing point" for the series. Like Goku preparing to train with Mr. Popo, Luffy has undertaken training with the second-in-command of one of the most powerful men in the world. And this time...it doesn't feel forced or stupid like how most shonen pull it. The fact that Haki has been there since day one and that it just now is finally important just feels natural, like Oda knew the day was going to come but couldn't reveal it too soon or else it would feel completely out of place. But likewise, the reason behind the training makes sense for OP as opposed to how it is with most shonen: whereas it's usually about "I must get stronger to defeat such and such an opponent", in this case it's simple: as tough as the GL has been, the New World is even worse for someone who has just blipped onto the map a couple months ago. Heck, even Roger himself had a lifetime of experience before finally deciding to take his journey to the very end of the line. This was needed, it came about organically...and I can't wait to see how things will have changed two years from now...
Well...see you in a month Oda...and in two years, Luffy.
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True, but BB doesn't seem strong enough to the point where he can get the One Piece in just two years. A two year skip without One Piece being obtained is plausible.
When he rly would get the OP so easily in just two years than thise manga would flop so bad…lol
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Err…no, it doesn't. Blackbeard's df completely shuts the power down, for example Akainu would be unable to use lava powers, whereas a haki hit doesn't stop the user from using his powers.
BB's ability only shuts DFs down when he touches them. He still got attacked by Ace when he tried again to cancel his DF. What I mean is that Blackbeard was so excited about being able to harm logias in particular, when haki can do the same thing.
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My thought from the spoiler thread:
I'm coining these haki techniques:
Detect Drive (Pwnobi thought of this one)
Armor Drive
Tyrant DriveThis should be the translation for haki. It sounds so fucking cool to not use.
Yeah, Pwnobi and I were talking about this yesterday. The Straw Hats have been together for approximately a year and some months. Two years with these new acquaintances would mean they would have been with them longer and these new bonds have the potential to be stronger. We know this won't happen since this is a story but it's something to think about.
Also, Zoro with Perona for two years? She's definitely joining.
or it simply could be the fact he is magma…magma being very thick & viscous....would lessen the effect the haki attack had on him...that or he just narrowly avoided the full force of the attack...as he somehow dodged it but only slightly..
This subject used to bother until we received the haki explanation. It's obvious to me now that Akainu used his own Armor Drive to block their attack. It makes sense if you speculate that Akainu's armor as being stronger than theirs. His armor is stronger than theirs so they get deflected so to speak.
It seems to me that Zoro has shown the ability to use both Armor and Tyrant Drive in the techniques, Lion's Song and Asura respectively.
Zoro will obviously have all 3 Drives. He has shown both Detect and Armor in Alabasta and he has been seen intimidating the shit out of everybody he meets. He has even created a technique that calls forth his intimidating spirit in physical form (Asura).
Sanji is a punk. He will have Armor Drive, that's it.
Rayliegh confirms that everything can be explained with Drive.
Diable Jambe? Tekkai?Shigan? Geppou? Roku Ougan? Nami Strike? Armor Drive.
Mantra? Kami-e? Detect Drive.
Asura? Shiwase Punch? Tyrant Drive
It's always been my secret wish for Nami to break into the Monster Trio. She, along with Franky, has the most potential for mass destruction. She will become a pirate goddess able to warp the weather to her will!
OMG. USOPP WITH DETECT DRIVE
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so is the OPverse have years that are made up of 48 weeks? Cause I don't really get the whole 48 seasons thing in that case.
Maybe its a loose translation, its probably 48 different weather conditions on a rotational basis or something rather than what we consider as the 4 seasons.
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so is the OPverse have years that are made up of 48 weeks? Cause I don't really get the whole 48 seasons thing in that case.
Lol, probably not every 168 hours but 175 or so (exactly 175 hours if i want to be precise)
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Wow, this was a great chapter to skip spoilers for.
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biggest news we should take from this timeskip: Blackbeard will actually have a fullbeard by then
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amazing chapter !!!….I wonder if Luffy wants to kill akainu
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@Ady:
amazing chapter !!!….I wonder if Luffy wants to kill akainu
Not exactly his top priority at the moment, lol. :P
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@$abZ:
BB's ability only shuts DFs down when he touches them. He still got attacked by Ace when he tried again to cancel his DF. What I mean is that Blackbeard was so excited about being able to harm logias in particular, when haki can do the same thing.
No, he was loving the yami fruit for a few different raesons: he was pretty much excited that not only can he harm any Devil fruit user, but also assert his own sadistic dominance, that's shown when he talks about guys who are overconfident in their reliance on devil fruits. He gets a pleasure out of sending them into a spiral of confusion over why they cant use their abilities when he grabs them.
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The chapter's out? Awesome!
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Not likely, top guys will have haki but remember Ace was a big name player even in the New World and he could stomp most of the people there (stuff like Ace subduing Doma's gang on his lonesome for example). Also keep in mind Rayleigh saying 2 years isn't nearly enough to learn how to use the different types effectively.
What Blackbeard's fruit did was stop Ace using any of his powers, which threw him off for sure. That is something haki users cannot do, and that is why Blackbeard was talking about overconfident users who rely far too much on their fruit.
@mdmartin101:
But remember, Blackbeard was in Ace's division. He probably saw Teach fight before and said, "Can you use Haki' "Nope, never learned it". Then Ace would be a bit surprised.
Yeah i wasn
t saying BB
s fruit was nothing new for him.
Its just likely in my eyes that he got hit several times from other guys in the NW who used Colour Armor-haki.. BB talked in that scene as if a Logia user couldn
t be aware of the fact that they could get hit^^
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That was probably his devil fruit.
That's what i thought at first but it looks awfully like how rayleigh and sentomaru sent out there shock waves….. that was a shock wave haki thing coming from rayleigh right
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when you think about haki i think about martial arts. It's going to take me more than two years too surpass my master. It takes years of traing to be a master. you can never rush these things. i'd be kinda mad if luffy learned it in a couple of weeks.
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i dont see why the strawhats are thinking they cant the new world the way they are now. they managed to beat the CP9 a couple of the warlords and luffy even managed to hold his own at marineford. and whats this new world they keep talking about anyway? and if you ask me i think akoji will just abandon the whole warlord thing althogheter since they lost so many already. i mean jimbei and hancock have given up warlord status, crocodile and blackbeard ARE no longer warlords and moria is dead witch just leaves miehawk, kuma and doflimingo.
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That's what i thought at first but it looks awfully like how rayleigh and sentomaru sent out there shock waves….. that was a shock wave haki thing coming from rayleigh right
It looks complete different, Rayleighs is like a small shield type thing while Sengoku threw out a giant force field of doom.
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In the end, it seems very much that part 2 of One Piece will be almost like a "reset" for the manga.
-The world we are about to enter is completely unfamiliar ("New World"), just like when manga started.
-The direction of the story is completely open, just like when manga started
-The world is filled with exciting new characters we have never seen before, just like when manga started (all old characters have gotten development, thus they are new)
-We can look forward to new powers and abilities, we have no idea what main characters have in their pockets, just like when manga started
-Yet, when we enter, we will see the familiar faces we all love: the Strawhats.^this.
Somehow I get the feeling we can't put too much trust into everything Oda has said over the years now.
Something changed with the death of Ace, and now, with a timeskip of 2 years, well, all bets are off. Oda may possibly do somethings he said before he'll never do. And this only makes me pretty exited, because anything can happen now, there are no rules (for now anyways).., its a new start, for the Strawhats, and for the readers.. -
@Tamaki:
i dont see why the strawhats are thinking they cant the new world the way they are now. they managed to beat the CP9 a couple of the warlords and luffy even managed to hold his own at marineford.
Luffy almost died at Marineford. And the crew was completely overwhelmed at Sabaody.
and whats this new world they keep talking about anyway?
Second half of the Grand Line.
moria is dead
No he's not.
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A weird thing is that mantra is so common in Skypia..like "yeah, skypia the land where this kind of haki has everyone"
I mean Aissa had it without knowing why..and even suckers like Satori^^
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so is the OPverse have years that are made up of 48 weeks? Cause I don't really get the whole 48 seasons thing in that case.
I think it's just that people typically say 4 weeks per month, 12 months a year.
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Awesome chapter. I bet if Zoro learns that Observation Haki then he might actually be able to find his way around without getting lost in future, lol
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It looks complete different, Rayleighs is like a small shield type thing while Sengoku threw out a giant force field of doom.
yeah i guess your right….. my dumb prediction luffy's last attack of the series....... KAMEHAMEHA
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Unbelievably good chapter, and thus ends Luffy's final chapter of a 17 year old.
This is gonna be a loooooooong month. I'm gonna feel like I've aged too when this is over.
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Which kind of Haki you guys think will Zoro use in the future?
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@Tamaki:
i dont see why the strawhats are thinking they cant the new world the way they are now. they managed to beat the CP9 a couple of the warlords and luffy even managed to hold his own at marineford.
CP9 ain't shit.
In case you missed it the battles with the Shichibukai were hard fought and won by the skin of their teeth, Crocodile had three hard fought battles and the entire crew were needed to finish Moria. That's without even looking at how Kuma absolutely raped the crew like nobodies.
Luffy didn't hold his own, he got battered by Vice Admirals easily, he was also doped up on hormones that will fuck him up for the rest of his life.The rest of the crew (barring Zoro) are even worse, can you imagine fucking Usopp or Nami or Chopper in the war? They'd be mutilated in seconds.
and whats this new world they keep talking about anyway?
In case you missed it like 5 Supernovae crew have been pwnd already. It's no piece of cake.
and if you ask me i think akoji will just abandon the whole warlord thing althogheter since they lost so many already. i mean jimbei and hancock have given up warlord status, crocodile and blackbeard ARE no longer warlords
Aokiji doesn't control shichibukai, the World government does that. Marines have no jurisdiction over the privateers.
and moria is dead
He escaped.
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What to do for four weeks…Maybe I'll get some exercise. I will get stronger for you Luffy!
But seriosuly, I'm stoked to see the crew after the 2 year period!
After the time skip will luffy be 19, but closer to 20? He was 17 for awhile....
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@Low-fi:
Awesome chapter. I bet if Zoro learns that Observation Haki then he might actually be able to find his way around without getting lost in future, lol
Lol. We know for certain the Obs Haki is the one he wont be best at.
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Thanks MS!
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@Don:
Which kind of Haki you guys think will Zoro use in the future?
I mean Mihawk should show him also those kinds of haki..but Kings Haki i guess is reserved for Luffy^^ (but also Rayleigh as the second mate of Roger can use it,thought)I think he'll have a bit of all but it may be the colour of observation that he specialises in, it sort of (tenuously) fits in with the "breath of all things" deal he had when learning to cut steel as they are both sensory types. He may also have some conqueror constitution, Rayleigh as a first mate does, Ace did and probably other first mates of top crews do.
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=I'm coining these haki techniques:
Detect Drive (Pwnobi thought of this one)
Armor Drive
Tyrant DriveThis should be the translation for haki. It sounds so fucking cool to not use.
you can coin them all you want, you're gonna be the only one using them :getlost: