Oh lord, this talk of the anime ending is just annoying now.
so, I read the chapter again, since I had just skimmed at first. It's…well...seems like a pick up. I'm not saying Bleach is going to get good, just maybe it'll pick up it's pace a little now.
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@No:
Metallica Metalluca.
I took a look at it just now..and wow…it's true that even Bleach is better.
It's…well...seems like a pick up. I'm not saying Bleach is going to get good, just maybe it'll pick up it's pace a little now.
Hm, it's not too far-fetched, I suppose.
Anyways, Ichigo's "fullbring" is basicially a sword attack without a sword?
Dunno, compared to shrinking and controlling the "flames of time"….it seems kinda lackluster.
That's because Ichigo has the character depth of a large hole where the kiddie pool used to be.
@No:
That's because Ichigo has the character depth of a large hole where the kiddie pool used to be.
Too bad his powers have to be as meh as him…..
The main heroes power is the ability to push people back with his sword.
Woooohooo !
Meh, it's a YYH ripoff now that the trolling's over… And the Sensui will probably be Aizen mk II, so why did I bother catching up today?
And of course no one should have expected anything creative from Kubo with regards to Ichigo's Fullbring. Why change the bland spambot after 400+ chapters?
Obligatory "Heil Ichigo" @ chapter title
Past chapters:
How is skin an inanimate object? Even if it's dead skin it's still organic and should count as part of Chad, not something else... I guess Kubo can't stop trolling though. He remembers that Yoko-chin guy but not the coin Chad had that was in that same mini/subarc.
At least this was faster to catch up with than Bakuman, but Bleach is always faster to catch up with than anything, less dialogue and backgrounds to distract from the faux coolness.
And I'll probably be about as active posting as I have been lately, or maybe more or less weekly weighing in on 1-3 series (since "as I have been lately" = several months absence, doesn't it? lol). Busy, and not going to force discussion out of myself vs taking care of things. Forcing discussion is why the next nakamate thread is full of terrible ideas anyway.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4304/rasenichigo.png
I honestly enjoyed Naruto this week.Good Job Kubo!
as soon as i saw this i lol, but it did inspire me to make my own version of it, only this time ichigo is in sage mode.:ninja:
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anyway on to the chapter i think kubo just lack ideas to improve his story, i was expecting something totally different for ichigo, i mean this feels like to me his using shinigami powers, but the only difference without a zangetsu sword.
i would have been happpy with this kinda form for ichigo, as part of his shinigami/hallow ability moves, but is too cheap imo for a fullbring power like from kubo.
that dude from the last page, design wise looks rather refreshing.
It's a bit irritating that Chad casually went shaving while his BFF was fighting for his life.
And unintentionally hilarious as well.
@Cyan:
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?p=11706238#post11706238
I miss Battle Franky.
From one of the posters there:
"The author's job is to write a story compelling enough and fits the intended audience's taste to keep fans entertained, not explain every little detail to them so they know the answer to everything that happened in the manga."
Wow….So plot holes are great storytelling?
I really don't know what Kubo plans to do with Bleach. I seriously don't think he can drag out Bleach for 10 years, it is just impossible, he is going to be killed by ex-fans within two years. I cannot understand how there are still hardcore fans who think huge panels are worth a thousand words.
kubo's panels are definitely worth a thousand words.
provided that you're insulting them of course.
A random question just came to mind. On this selection of the forum there are worser manga or just as bad as say bleach and naruto but (not pointing out a series) apparently none of these series gets even a quarter of the bashing bleach gets and the hand full of users that post in those thread are left alone without the worry of getting bash for liking said series etc… why is bleach singled out and other popular "bad" manga not?
There aren't that many mangas worse than Bleach.
Welcome to Arlong Park's Other manga/anime section. We love One Piece and only talk about Naruto and Bleach, even though we hate them.
@THE:
Welcome to Arlong Park's Other manga/anime section. We love One Piece and only talk about Naruto and Bleach, even though we hate them.
I steal it from a man.
This post mystifies me on so many levels.
Anyone have a decoder ring handy ? :ninja:
There aren't that many mangas worse than Bleach.
This is really true. But I'd say that going by a shonen standard. I can think of many many shojo worse than Bleach.
For me, it's not so much hatred as extreme disappointment. When Bleach started out, it was arguably better than One Piece, depending on your tastes. (So was Naruto, but that's way beside the point.) It's the contrast that's shocking, like beginning a movie with Pulp Fiction and ending with Big Momma's House 2. Or like beginning like M. Night Shymalan and ending like M. Night Shymalan.
I think the difficulty really began when Kubo introduced the idea that every captain had a Bankai, and the first few were really pretty awesome. And everyone waited relatively patiently to see the rest, just as we learned that we could expect even more: Urahara, Ichidad, Yoruichi, even Shinji (iirc). Even now, I'm drooling just thinking about it. Then the ultimate battle with Aizen came and went, and how many new ones did we see, even as they were all being pwn'd? Arghghgh.
When Bleach started out, it was arguably better than One Piece, depending on your tastes. (So was Naruto, but that's way beside the point.) It's the contrast that's shocking, like beginning a movie with Pulp Fiction and ending with Big Momma's House 2.
This makes so much sense, that I am going to clap for you behind my screen. At least, it does for me. When I started Bleach, I didn't read One Piece, so I couldn't compare. But I did read Naruto and instantly thought that Bleach was just better. It's debatable, yeah. But that's just how it went. I'm not saying One Piece is the top of that Manga standard. But certainly in terms of flow, characterization and just plain deliverance, One Piece is better than Bleach at this point.
Even now, I'm drooling just thinking about it.
Oh thank it all, I'm not the only one who actually is a little excited at the slim, tiny, itty bitty, wee, slight chance that we can see their Bankais someday.
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I don't see how Bleach was better than OP even in the start. OP sucked me in from the very beginning with it's imagination and insanity. Bleach…well before I actually read the "Substitute Shinigami" arc, it just looked bland in it's art style and storytelling. Now I consider it a lot of fun but I wouldn't trade in the East Blue arc for this...and it's leagues better than everything since...probably since a certain point in Soul Society onwards.
And Naruto...the only reason people were deceived by it being "good" is because Zabuza was just that cool.
I am actualy thinking of trying to see more of Naruto and possibly reach the point where it becomes as bad as people say. But…..I would kind of have to ask Robby since he thread banned me when the Naruto thread Serious'd.
Just finished watching the recent anime episode.
They changed the ending and had Ichigo keep his powers.
Epic lulz were had.
@No:
I am actualy thinking of trying to see more of Naruto and possibly reach the point where it becomes as bad as people say. But…..I would kind of have to ask Robby since he thread banned me when the Naruto thread Serious'd.
you're banned from the naruto thread too?
Just finished watching the recent anime episode.
They changed the ending and had Ichigo keep his powers.
Epic lulz were had.
Oh hell naw. That is the funniest thing I have heard today.
@No:
So I guess cancelation is realy an option ?
But then…..why would they let him keep his powers ?
Unless he needs them for a massive filler arc.
Sadly, according to wikipedia he will still lose his powers, just more gradually this time. So it seems like massive filler arc ahoy!
@Robo:
What are these other series that you claim to be worse than Bleach?
Reborn.
I'm out.
Very meh if it's what they say. I just don't get Pierrot…if the Bleach cow is fully milked dry, what's wrong with just trying to start hitting until the next big thing is found by them instead of keeping Bleach going on and on until...well, whatever they have planned next is done and they're ready to do the latest round of generic stupidness?
@Robo:
What are these other series that you claim to be worse than Bleach?
I suggest Inuyasha as worst manga of all time.
We should make a poll for this.
@The:
Sadly, according to wikipedia he will still lose his powers, just more gradually this time. So it seems like massive filler arc ahoy!
I just saw that and yowza , this is friggen hilarious.
Also based on the episode translations, do they have lke 8 undreground prisons or something ? Not that I ever expect an answer from kubo.
But this coupled with the filler-y name of the episode 312 strongly implies that Pierrot may want to completely ignore Kubo's story, at least for now, and make up their own where they won't have to stretch shit out.
I wonder…...could this mean we could get maybe two or three long filler arcs where the pacing doesn't suck dick ? Because.....that could make Bleach not only tolerable, but far superior to the manga in practicaly every way.
I suggest Inuyasha as worst manga of all time.
We should make a poll for this.
The anime for the early parts made it tolerable. Plus there was a guy who was a human tank there , so as shity as it may have ended up (not read/seen anything beyond Naraku's prolonged dissapearance) , Bleach stil retains the front in all matters of slowness and plot holes.
@No:
I just saw that and yowza , this is friggen hilarious.
Also based on the episode translations, do they have lke 8 undreground prisons or something ? Not that I ever expect an answer from kubo.
Are we even talking about a prison here? Avici is actually Buddhist Naraka at the lowest of 8 levels, where you're constantly burned alive. It's kind of similiar to the 9 circles only with the Buddhist stigma that you will be denied the cycle of rebirth. Oh well, Kubo probably gives a rat's ass about religion and took the name because it sounded cool.
Then again who cares? It's not like we will see it anyway. We will probably just hear a short mention of Aizen breaking out from there and that will be it.
Are we even talking about a prison here? Avici is actually Buddhist Naraka at the lowest of 8 levels, where you're constantly burned alive. It's kind of similiar to the 9 circles only with the Buddhist stigma that you will be denied the cycle of rebirth. Oh well, Kubo probably gives a rat's ass about religion and took the name because it sounded cool.
Then again who cares? It's not like we will see it anyway. We will probably just hear a short mention of Aizen breaking out from there and that will be it.
Maybe see it blow up when he does.
Thing is, does that mean the Shinigami actualy control the underworld ? And if the name realy aplies to the source material, then do they do all the horrible shit that happens in the Buddhist Narakas ?
@No:
Maybe see it blow up when he does.
Thing is, does that mean the Shinigami actualy control the underworld ? And if the name realy aplies to the source material, then do they do all the horrible shit that happens in the Buddhist Narakas ?
I doubt Shinigami are in charge there. It's supposed to be in another dimension with its own rules. I'd like to think they have a kind of treaty for special cases like Aizen but are otherwise entirely independent from each other.
It's kind of sad..stuff like that has the potential to be interesting but Kubo's lack of creativity would turn Avici probably just into another white blob of nothingness with the same interior decorator Las Noches had.
I doubt Shinigami are in charge there. It's supposed to be in another dimension with its own rules. I'd like to think they have a kind of treaty for special cases like Aizen but are otherwise entirely independent from each other.
It's kind of sad..stuff like that has the potential to be interesting but Kubo's lack of creativity would turn Avici probably just into another white blob of nothingness with the same interior decorator Las Noches had.
With great amounts of shity Impel Down innuendo.
And you're right, that is interesting.
….....
Hmm, I got some sort of an idea here.
What I don't understand is WHY have him keep his powers and lose them over time, when they could simply do another "What if" like they did with the Zanpakuto Rebellion.
What I don't understand is WHY have him keep his powers and lose them over time, when they could simply do another "What if" like they did with the Zanpakuto Rebellion.
I sort of wonder at this point what Pierrot is planning to do. A "now for something completely different" arc would work way better, but I think even they may not know if they want to touch the time skip or not and just want Bleach on the air out of force of habit.
Think of it like a TV show in this country: it isn't good anymore, but it still gets in brainwashed idiots who think that it's still good, thus it still has ratings and the network refuses to touch it and keeps renewing it regardless of it being utter trash or just nothing like it used to be.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
I really want to see the anime going in denial of the manga and had from now on a totally diferent approach. Let Pierrot make the new bankais while Kubo goes silly with his fullbring.
I would love to see a new group of shinigamis rebelling against SS to try and save Aizen (silly plot but im tired so whatever). Or even hell spawns fighting the shinigamis. Just go crazy with the anime and forget canon material for a year or so.
The anime now will be the canon one.
Just watched the episode. Looks like the next episode is a Karakura Riders filler… they changed the condition of Ichigo losing his powers, so it's setting it up for some filler, anyway.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
Why is Ichigo going through all this Fullbringer stuff when his father, who also lost his powers, somehow regained them? Couldn't Ichigo just approach his own dad and inquire how to get his Shinigami powers back?
Anyway, the anime diverging and doing its own thing is a good idea. I don't want to see how they'll even try to cover this current arc in the anime if it continues.
Everything's Eventual…
Thing is they probably wouldn't be.
Here's hoping for a year of filler at least.
…...
Wow I realy did say that.
Why is Ichigo going through all this Fullbringer stuff when his father, who also lost his powers, somehow regained them? Couldn't Ichigo just approach his own dad and inquire how to get his Shinigami powers back?
Anyway, the anime diverging and doing its own thing is a good idea. I don't want to see how they'll even try to cover this current arc in the anime if it continues.
yea i've been wondering that since day 1.
how did ichigo's dad and the quincy guy get their powers back?
why does ichigo being a fullbringer necessary for him to get his power back? why can't he get them back like his dad? or is his dad also a fullbringer and got his powers back from these guys too?
if so how come they keep bringing people into their fullbringer fanclub and not giving away their power yet. why do they want to get rid of their powers?
can you not be normal even with those powers? i mean hell lets say i could fly. doesn't mean i have to. i could walk around, run around, act like a norma human being if flying bothered me so much. there has yet to be a side effect mentioned so the question begs "why get rid of something that doesn't affect you"
Hell have you guys seen the family guy episode where they all get powers? They all have great powers except for Meg. Her powers is she can grow and retract her finger nails. Now let me ask you this, would you rather have megs power or no power at all? Personally i would love to have her power over nothing. Is it lame ass? sure, but look i don't need to ever cut my nails again. that is convenient.
now thinking of x-men it woudl suck to have say that girl who touches people and they can die power. but so far their is no side effect that we have seen for fullbringers to warrant this. now an easy one could be that hollows TARGET them and they don't like this, or having to fight hollows. but again, we need to know WHY they want them gone.
Rogue.
And I too wonder, as many people before me, why those people hate their powers so much they want to get rid of them.
Also….what the fuck is the meaning of "Xcution" again ?
Edit: and anyone else miss Boar posting here ?
Oh yeah, they weren't kidding when they said that the bulter looks like Bradley. The only difference I can spot is a different kind of eyepatch over a different eye. Riruka looks pretty noodly.
Ancient post I know but I just realised….anyone else feel realy awkward about the eyepatch ? As in it looking realy badly drawn on ?
Also that stuff about Isshin....did Ginjou actualy say the whole secret was bs he made up to get Ichigo's atention ? Cause that would be.....lame.
@Fire Fist:
Just watched the episode. Looks like the next episode is a Karakura Riders filler… they changed the condition of Ichigo losing his powers, so it's setting it up for some filler, anyway.
It begs the question….how many filler episodes will Pierrot do?
I've seen people saying that the butler is a shout-out or a homage to FMA, but I just see copying a character design.
@No:
Edit: and anyone else miss Boar posting here ?
me..
want to ask where is he or but always forget about it..
I'm quite pleased with confirmation that the anime is continuing. Hopefully they will make shit more enjoyable than Kubo's current story. And also, by the time they finally do go back to the manga, they will be able to properly go forth with adapting it without having to stretch anything else out or add random fillers in between.
Ichigo not losing their powers aside, did anyone else lol when the anime wrote in big letters ARRANCAR ARC END, just so people KNOW the shit is ending?
@Tokoro:
I sort of wonder at this point what Pierrot is planning to do. A "now for something completely different" arc would work way better, but I think even they may not know if they want to touch the time skip or not and just want Bleach on the air out of force of habit.
You know, they delayed the Rukia goodbye, but the current ending is all about it, implying that it's going to happen until next month.
I still think they just postponed the series's death until March, and they'll use that scene as the end. Makes sense, they can't randomly end the anime now, in the middle of a season.
