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Chapter 596: "Spectrum" Discussion
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majority of those complainers are anti-main cast.
The Main cast appears, and the story is boring.
Pop in Sabo, and they will praise Oda is God.
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majority of those complainers are anti-main cast.
The Main cast appears, and the story is boring.
Pop in Sabo, and they will praise Oda is God.
Pop in any of the Strawhats, they will curse Oda is lamer than Kubo.Hold up!
What are you trying say here?
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Aside from the awesome cover page with adult sabo, ace and luffy this chapter didn't really interest me as much as the past few. It felt like i had read through this same chapter before not that long ago during impel down or after marineford so it felt a little too deja vu for me.
I just wish oda would stop stalling and tell us what the message on the newspaper was, he's teased it too long. And i wish we'd get to a new arc already since the past few(amazon lily, first part of ID and most of marineford until ace died) didn't really interest me as much as past arcs did. I'm just a very impatient person sadly and would wish he'd get on to the straw hats reunion already.
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Tsukishima, your signature is borderline slander.
That's not exactly what Kubo said in his tweets.If anything, you should quote his second tweet if you want to make him sound like an ass.
Not to mention we don't know if that really was him in the first place.
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Tsukishima, your signature is borderline slander.
That's not exactly what Kubo said in his tweets.If anything, you should quote his second tweet if you want to make him sound like an ass.
Not to mention we don't know if that really was him in the first place.
I'm sure tsukishima is sorry and will go sit in the corner feeding on dust and rain.
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for some fans that don't like this chapter saying that too much strawhat should stop reading weekly i guess.. tankabon/volume is much better for you guys.. although to me there are slightly different feel when you read weekly than tankabon/volume but for one piece both of them is good.. not like some manga where tankabon/volume or multiple volume is better than weekly because the plot is too slow or maybe no plot at all.. when you read in volume you will not notice some problem that you will notice when you read weekly.. like too much strawhat and we don't about their development, they are all saying the same thing- too repetitive…we want more side characters or we want mindless fight with no plot..
you guys should give it try.. or you guys just want to complain..:ninja:
but everybody can have their own taste and opinion i guess. and there is nothing wrong trying to voice your own opinion.. just try to not look stupid..! damn, english is to hard for me.. please forgive my bad english
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Tsukishima, your signature is borderline slander.
That's not exactly what Kubo said in his tweets.That was because of my translation. I made up a bit based on my own interpretation. (to make him look like even more of an ass)
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Okay I still feel that there should be more speculation on this.
So they didn't know she was working with Crocodile? did she tell them then? And why would she tell them? Isn't it slightly irrelevant now?
Then she says "Sorry, but I'm glad things worked out like this"
I haven't actually been a huge supporter of the theory that Crocodile is actually a revolutionary but this does seem to further hint at it.
The impression I got from this page was…. Robin saying she hadn't trusted the revolutionaries because of her experience with Crocodile who either was an ex revolutionary or was a revolutionary.
Then the revolutionaries respond with what seems to me to be "i'm sorry for the way one of our guys/one of our former guys treated you. We didn't even know what he was doing." or "sorry we didn't know you were already working with revolutionaries before us"then Robin says "I was just playing with him. sorry". Could it be she's apologizing like saying "Sorry I didn't trust him so I'm sorry I gave him incorrect information about the poneglyph."
This was just one possible interpretation I got.
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I'm sure tsukishima is sorry and will go sit in the corner feeding on dust and rain.
hey.. that's my corner..:ninja:
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Okay I still feel that there should be more speculation on this.
So they didn't know she was working with Crocodile? did she tell them then? And why would she tell them? Isn't it slightly irrelevant now?
Then she says "Sorry, but I'm glad things worked out like this"
I haven't actually been a huge supporter of the theory that Crocodile is actually a revolutionary but this does seem to further hint at it.
The impression I got from this page was…. Robin saying she hadn't trusted the revolutionaries because of her experience with Crocodile who either was an ex revolutionary or was a revolutionary.
Then the revolutionaries respond with what seems to me to be "i'm sorry for the way one of our guys/one of our former guys treated you. We didn't even know what he was doing." or "sorry we didn't know you were already working with revolutionaries before us"then Robin says "I was just playing with him. sorry". Could it be she's apologizing like saying "Sorry I didn't trust him so I'm sorry I gave him incorrect information about the poneglyph."
This was just one possible interpretation I got.
I'd be interested to hear what other people thought was going on.I'm pretty sure it was more along the lines of no one knowing the agents' identities under BW and the major players being revealed in the news soon after Crocodile's downfall.
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What Kubo said in his tweets??
Edit: Oh, I found it…
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I'm pretty sure it was more along the lines of no one knowing the agents' identities under BW and the major players being revealed in the news soon after Crocodile's downfall.
yes I also think this but one thing that gets me is… why does Robin say sorry? and why was it that they assumed Crocodile and Robin had had a bad ending?? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to assume Crocodile and Robin were partners to the very end? How would they figure out that they ended up betraying eachother??
In fact, considering Nico Robin has left most organizations as the last survivor and Baroque Works was a similar case (she was the only one that never spent any jail time) wouldn't it be easier to assume that Robin had tricked Crocodile? Therefore they couldn't assume she was talking about him when she implied she'd worked with people who weren't benevolent. yes Croc is an asshole and this seems pretty common knowledge but surely from their limited information they would only know that the two were partners so it would be more likely that they were friends.was that too complicated? Okay I'll just.... go talk to myself in a corner (and live off dust etc)
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Cool chapter. Gotta love future character development.
Dunno why, but that marine
reminds me of
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yes I also think this but one thing that gets me is… why does Robin say sorry? and why was it that they assumed Crocodile and Robin had had a bad ending?? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to assume Crocodile and Robin were partners to the very end? How would they figure out that they ended up betraying eachother??
In fact, considering Nico Robin has left most organizations as the last survivor and Baroque Works was a similar case (she was the only one that never spent any jail time) wouldn't it be easier to assume that Robin had tricked Crocodile? Therefore they couldn't assume she was talking about him when she implied she'd worked with people who weren't benevolent. yes Croc is an asshole and this seems pretty common knowledge but surely from their limited information they would only know that the two were partners so it would be more likely that they were friends.was that too complicated? Okay I'll just.... go talk to myself in a corner (and live off dust etc)
That's easy.
Why is she apologizing? She's apologizing for teasing them (making them feel bad about not coming to find her sooner).
They can assume they that Robin and Crocodile didn't have much going for it, because they know Crocodile as a Shichibukai and Robina as the girl on the run from the government for her entire life, who joined pirate crews for her own safety.
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Cool chapter. Gotta love future character development.
Dunno why, but that marine
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reminds me of
This was awesome.
To bad the anime ended.
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Okay I still feel that there should be more speculation on this.
So they didn't know she was working with Crocodile? did she tell them then? And why would she tell them? Isn't it slightly irrelevant now?
Then she says "Sorry, but I'm glad things worked out like this"
I haven't actually been a huge supporter of the theory that Crocodile is actually a revolutionary but this does seem to further hint at it.
The impression I got from this page was…. Robin saying she hadn't trusted the revolutionaries because of her experience with Crocodile who either was an ex revolutionary or was a revolutionary.
Then the revolutionaries respond with what seems to me to be "i'm sorry for the way one of our guys/one of our former guys treated you. We didn't even know what he was doing." or "sorry we didn't know you were already working with revolutionaries before us"then Robin says "I was just playing with him. sorry". Could it be she's apologizing like saying "Sorry I didn't trust him so I'm sorry I gave him incorrect information about the poneglyph."
This was just one possible interpretation I got.
I'd be interested to hear what other people thought was going on.What the hell…
She just wondering why during all her hardships these dudes who treat her like Jesus weren't there to help her.
They respond with not knowing where she was, particularly Crocodile who she worked for for a long time.
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@Don:
But we will see, when you will be right that this hard training will bring Zoro to overcome himself(his techniques)and so to learn Haki(which he sure have inside him, seeing him use ashura).
rivalry^^We already knew zoro had haki when he fought mr.1 in albasta..the power to hear everyting around him , is it that haki? or some sort of haki.
chapter 195And one early hint with luffy is when he breaks arlongs sword with his hand in namis old room.
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I wonder what Brook is up to? He does seem to have some sort of hypnotic abilities with his music including sleep and filling his listeners with a "fighting" spirit. They way he says " isn't it boring to just sit there" has me thinking he is going to "hypnotize" them one way or another. Maybe a riot like somone else suggested, as Bone To Be Wild sounds as if it could only bring about people acting a fool. He'll probably have the people destroy the cage and go exploring on the island.
Question: Brook is not on the same island that Kuma sent him to correct? If so does it mean he missed is opportunity in that "lazy" villiage? Why wouldn't Kuma send him directly to the long arm island if thats where he wanted him to go to in the first place?
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Okay I still feel that there should be more speculation on this.
So they didn't know she was working with Crocodile? did she tell them then? And why would she tell them? Isn't it slightly irrelevant now?
Then she says "Sorry, but I'm glad things worked out like this"
I haven't actually been a huge supporter of the theory that Crocodile is actually a revolutionary but this does seem to further hint at it.
The impression I got from this page was…. Robin saying she hadn't trusted the revolutionaries because of her experience with Crocodile who either was an ex revolutionary or was a revolutionary.
Then the revolutionaries respond with what seems to me to be "i'm sorry for the way one of our guys/one of our former guys treated you. We didn't even know what he was doing." or "sorry we didn't know you were already working with revolutionaries before us"then Robin says "I was just playing with him. sorry". Could it be she's apologizing like saying "Sorry I didn't trust him so I'm sorry I gave him incorrect information about the poneglyph."
This was just one possible interpretation I got.
I'd be interested to hear what other people thought was going on.she could've meant kuma too…not just crocodile
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Was more of joke but failed I guess on my part.
Those fans that stop reading and or stop watching one piece when they found out he died/dies. Those are the ones I'm glad that died with him.
Because hell Ace before the war was shown so many times throughout the story and obviously his death means there is no more story.
Oh, well it's hard to tell if you're joking over the internet obviously wasnt really any sign that you were. But wow, there are people that stopped reading One Piece over his death?
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This was a transition chapter and it really felt like it. Was'nt bad but not exactly edge of your seat stuff.
Figures Oda would leave Zoro until last again but then again it may possibly be the most important one with the whole Perona situation and all, and possibly the longest should she get 2-3 pages on her own again.
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Little bit boring chapter, but Franky saves a lot. Its so great to see how he looks like without flesh and meat stuff. Superb, Oda can do mechanical too, great to see. And he is most intresting of grewmates, Robin comes next. I just hope this isnt gonna last, just little more of others and bang, next age! Also big plus, no boreass supernovas at all! Even more, Sabo on cover. So he is just minor! Yay.
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Zoro is the last to show because he still has to understand the message (just like us).
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<interesting ideas="" about="" how="" zoro="" may="" awaken="" his="" (latent?)="" haki="" abilities="">Also, I know that Zoro trained in a Dojo a long time ago but at this point he isn't the kind of man to accept lessons from Mihawk, his sworn nemesis, his true goal. It's like Luffy learning Haki from blackbeard</interesting>
I thought your ideas about how Zoro will learn from the gorilla things were interesting, especially when it came to bringing out his haki, but I would not characterize Mihawk as his sworn nemesis. A nemesis is an enemy, working in opposition to you. Mihawk is not Zoro's enemy–I can't think of the ideal word at the moment, although there must be one, maybe "rival," although rivals are usually at the same place in their development or journey towards a goal (so for example, the SHs and other SN crews are rivals). Rivals are not always enemies, and I think Mihawk proved he's willing to be friendly, or at the least an interested party in Zoro's growth and potential. As such, there's not really much stopping him from teaching Zoro if he'd be a willing pupil. That's a big "if" though.
Nakama
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<a beautiful="" post="" about="" the="" meat="" and="" potatoes="" of="" this="" chapter="">{wipes a tear} Thank you Sage.
So I will add some of my thoughts as the chapter has settled in and I've digested it a bit. It seems to me up until this chapter, the crew (with the exception of Zoro, and a few odd moments for the rest of them here and there, but not sustained) has never stopped depending on Luffy's seemingly inexhaustible strength and positive outlook. Right up until the message came, for some of them, they never stopped thinking of him that way. Something in that message made them finally get that revelation that he does need help, that they are a crew in the truest sense of needing to work together as one, they they each need to add their own notes to the concert that is their adventure.
In other words, this chapter was for the crew the mirror of that heartbreaking moment when Luffy states baldly "I am so weak!" and finally understands his need to get stronger.
His realization was his need to protect them. I suspect the message made them see that, rather than being a command to get stronger, since while he has always been clear on needing all of them to help himself be strong, he had been growing into his sense of resposibility as captain to protect them since Arlong, and has never given that over to anyone else (I doubt anyone here would deny he'd be mighty appalled about what Zoro did on TB, so this should be evident from that alone, but there are other examples of this feeling from him, as well), thus the mirror part, that they finally see they need to protect Him, too.
Deep man. Deep–and the essence of why this chapter was so very needed in term of bringing things full circle storytelling-wise</a>
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Zoro never understands the message but still gets there on time because keeps getting lost
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I thought your ideas about how Zoro will learn from the gorilla things were interesting, especially when it came to bringing out his haki, but I would not characterize Mihawk as his sworn nemesis. A nemesis is an enemy, working in opposition to you. Mihawk is not Zoro's enemy–I can't think of the ideal word at the moment, although there must be one, maybe "rival," although rivals are usually at the same place in their development or journey towards a goal (so for example, the SHs and other SN crews are rivals). Rivals are not always enemies, and I think Mihawk proved he's willing to be friendly, or at the least an interested party in Zoro's growth and potential.
Yeah, I know, Doflamingo already pointed that flaw out to me and you are right. Mihawks strength is Zoro's goal, no !, even surpass his strength would be better and they will fight for that, not as enemies but as 2 men respecting each others determination, technique and strength and fighting for who will be the strongest swordsman of the world.
Also, Zoro might indeed not get the message and he will probably be a bit late as well, not because he understood the message too late but because he can't seem to get past that shitload of baboons on time. Probably Sanji yelling something like: "how can you possibly NOT understand that message you stupid cucumberhead" -
Nakama Honestly, I think any TRUE One Piece fan would appreciate this chapter to the fullest.
If you have followed each character from the beginning then I cannot see why you wouldn't be touched by each of their revelations. Oda did this beautifully. Everyone had a flashback at a time where Luffy lifted them up and helped them despite any contextual conditions…he gave them hope and showed them love.
Now that reality hit everyone, they are realizing that they cannot continue the way they were or else they will lose everything in an instant. They see the need for growth in order to not only achieve their own dreams but also help Luffy achieve his. I can imagine their feelings in each panel of their revelations...that goosebump feeling...the feeling of an epiphany sprouting...the zeal and motivation mixing in with pure emotion to create and build ones Will....it ties into everything that is One Piece.
I feel so connected to the story and its morals that I can not label this chapter "meh, blah, weak, okay" in any way, shape, or form.
Certainly there isn't any fighting or any faces getting bashed, like we all love to see, but seeing emotions being portrayed this way, especially after following each character for such a long time in this long series (its not like each character was rushed and introduced quickly to fit into a 150 chapter series....we are talking 596 friggin chapters full of character development and story that can do nothing else but pull you in)....
Then again...I guess it is also up to the personality of the reader. There are some who appreciate a story for all its worth; characters, emotions, plot, story, etc. and there are those who enjoy just the action and suspense...to each his own I guess.....
Whoa now, what would you define as a "True One Piece fan"? Are we going to start writing off fans of the series just because they didn't enjoy the chapter as much as we did? So they didn't enjoy the chapter and have some complaints. So they're different. This is normal, for any number of people on a blog to have differentiating opinions. A variety of opinions that won't all be positive.
As we can see from the majority of comments this chapter was well liked, so that gives us a good consensus of how this chapter rates overall. A few didn't like it and thought it was, as accurately as I can put it, "Meh". Doesn't mean those folks who didn't like this particular chapter aren't true One Piece fans. I really don't even know what would classify you as a true One Piece fan anyway. Truthfully, I would like anyone's opinion on this.
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just liking one piece makes you a true one piece fan. Not just a chapter but the overall series.
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! I see your point and tbh im not a fan of the entire flashback at all and i'm even less a fan of Sabo. We've met lots of characters who suddenly show up and when we do we learn their story then if its relevant. Had Sabo just shown up out of the blue and then we got the Flash Back how could it make any difference to you? He basically just showed up out of no where in the Flash Back and people feel in love with him anyway. Luffy never mentioned him before, garp never mentioned him, he was never alluded to in any luffy flashbacks. IMO you saying it would've been weird with him popping up with no explanation is exactly how we were introduced to him.
! Like i said i felt the entire Flash Back was unnecessary for most of the reasons you stated above. I don't feel like we learned any more about Luffy or Ace that we already didn't know. Really seeing Dadan and Kuma was the highlight for me. I guess if he is alive that would give him purpose but it wouldn't change the almost retconned way he was introduced and for that he'll always have my ire. He'll be that guy at the party who everyone is just pretending to know so it's not awkward for everyone else. I don't really want to have to pretend like that if he shows up again.
! His one saving grace imo is that i felt he had an impact on Luffy and Ace. We already knew they had dreams but there is something inspiring and frightening about watching someone who has the same dream as you go out and fail knowing that you might meet the same fate. I think that's powerful enough and gives his character enough purpose. It only works if he's dead though, otherwise no experience gained, no lesson learned.<more stong="" points="" about="" the="" suddeness="" of="" sabo's="" appearance="" in="" story="">>! We didn't know luffy had a brother but ace popped up here and there and then we found out. Thats not jarring because at that point we didn't know much about Luffy's family. There was a lot of room left for exploration on that topic. It's not as if we know all about luffy's childhood and a brother was never mentioned.
! By the time garp shows up we've seen more of Luffy's background. Obviously since he exist he must have parent and therefore grandparents. Who these people are if we'll ever see them is up for grabs but we know they must exist. Therefore Garps introduction isn't jarring or retconish because prior to his appearance that was unexplored territory.
! At the point after Aces death though we've seen a lot of flash backs and heard a lot of stories about luffy growing up. So much so that even you agree, the Luffy+Ace flashback revealed nothing that we didn't already know about them. So basically their past is established. Luffy has talked about his past with Ace, with Dadan, and with Garp by now. Then we get hit with the Sabo character who was never alluded to or mentioned before his appearance. It was as if every character and story about luffy's past just conveniently left out this Huge Important Other Brother for no reason. That's why his appearance feels retcon. We suddenly are told there was Sabo and Sabo knew Ace and Ace treated him and loved him like a brother (didn't think of him in his flashbacks though). He knew Garp and trained with Luffy+Ace when fighting Garp (didn't see that in his flashbacks though). He knew Luffy and trained with him and played with him and was as much a brother to Luffy as Ace was (but he was NEVER mentioned or alluded to AT ALL)
! That doesn't feel right to me and it's not the same as with Ace and Garp or Dragon. It would be as if Luffy's mother was suddenly revealed to be Big Momma and she was inserted into all those flashbacks with luffy and ace growing up, and she was friends with dadan, and garp visited her when he visited luffy, and she watched sabo+luffy+ace train together. That would feel cheap, just like Sabo</more>You make some extremely strong points about Sabo's appearance in the story, and I can even agree with some of them. As nearly every class on creative writing (and theatre, for that matter) ought to tell us, a good part of storytelling skill involves writing in such a compelling way that readers are lulled into willingly suspending their sense of disbelief. Clearly, for you and some others as well, the way that Oda chose to introduce Sabo broke this unwritten contract for you, and made it impossible for you to suspend disbelief when it came to Sabo's place in the story. You have my sympathy, because what is also clear from your posts is that you love OP, and want it to succeed in every way–it's almost as if this were a personal betrayal for you, which extends to your feelings about Sabo as a character.
I think the story is saved by a few small but pertinent details. One, Luffy consciously chooses to not think or speak about the past–his own or anyone else's. This explains a lot about him as a person, but also the reason we may never have seen Sabo in his story. He just isn't the type to dwell on past sorrows--in fact he seems to actively push such memories away.
Two–while Ace was the type to wallow in his memories, thus making him a more likely candidate for giving us a f/b about Sabo, and we did see a fair number of f/b's from him, they were focused on his feelings for Luffy and his dad. These are people who were still pertinent to him right up until he died--note I didn't say important, although they arguably were--just pertinent, because they were still actively having a day to day affect on his life. Sengoku practically said Ace was being executed partially because he was Roger's son, and certainly it was that connection that put his current "family" in the form of WB and his crew as well as Luffy in greater danger during the war. I'm sure he spared more than a thought or two for Sabo while he sat in the dark in ID, but it wasn't directly related to his being there as much as the f/bs we were privy to, if that makes sense, so there was no real reason for Sabo to be revealed in those f/bs story wise.
As for Garp, he knew Sabo, but I doubt he ever had more than a "you’re my grandkids' little friend" feeling toward him, and it's even doubtful he knew of the effect Sabo's "death" had on them, given his absence at that time, so I can’t see why he would have had any f/b about him either.
I know this seems disjointed, sorry. I need to go off and tend to things and errands–I'm being actively called even as I type, but I wanted to lay that out there and see if it makes you feel any better about Sabo's intro. It's not meant to be an argument against your feelings, because we feel what we feel, but rather an alternate way of seeing things.
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@I:
{wipes a tear} Thank you Sage.
No problem. I am glad at least someone understands where I am coming from.
His realization was his need to protect them. I suspect the message made them see that, rather than being a command to get stronger, since while he has always been clear on needing all of them to help himself be strong, he had been growing into his sense of resposibility as captain to protect them since Arlong, and has never given that over to anyone else (I doubt anyone here would deny he'd be mighty appalled about what Zoro did on TB, so this should be evident from that alone, but there are other examples of this feeling from him, as well), thus the mirror part
Indeed. This is definitely a growing experience for everyone, even the readers. I'd like to think that the way I am feeling is the way Oda wanted his readers to feel when seeing this chapter. It is rather surprising, in a sense, to see so many people who I thought grasped the concept of OP to not like this pivotal chapter…but like I said previously...to each his own...and this is to expected from this forum (and basically all others).
that they finally see they need to protect Him, too.
Hence why Nami and Usopp saying that Luffy is overdoing it…he is taking the whole crews protective responsibility on his own shoulders...and eventually it was going to pin him down...he was very fortunate that he is so likable (hinted because of his Will/K.Haki) that he had people help him instead of kill him...he definitely learned a hard lesson and escaped death a few times...and I am hoping he continues to see this as a lesson learned and develops accordingly.
Luffy, for the first half of OP, really was taking everything in on his own shoulders and seemed like he had inextinguishable strength and yet Oda made it a point to slam reality into the story and have Luffy learn the hard way...like most stubborn people ask for...now to see him grow and mature after that horrible tragedy and all the hard lessons...is golden and fulfilling...and a pure example of good writing.
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I doubt Zoro/Perona shit will be resolved next chapter.
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Good chapter. Not anything huge happening, but it was a much needed chapter. It seemed like a purposely meant chapter to give us time to take a breath and relax, but at the same time giving us info on what the rest of the crew will be doing.
As for Zoro, I don't think he will me learning from Hawkeye. He's the kind of person not to take advice from his rivals, and I don't think Oda would introduce the Humandrill for no reason. I think next chapter we'll see the Humandrill using Zoro's Three-Sword-Style and fighting him with his own abilities, bandaging their wounds like Zoro has, learning from him. If you ask me, this is the best training for Zoro besides learning to control his Hakbition(Yes, I'm calling it that for right now). Zoro trains continually and I think basically facing many weaker versions of himself will be a great training method, learning where he needs to improve from fighting himself.
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Whoa now, what would you define as a "True One Piece fan"?
Woah woah woah woah….slow down there cowboy. Don't blow things way out of proportion and make it seem like I am bashing anyone.
First I would like to request you READ the ENTIRE post before jumping to such conclusions. Notice the "I think" part in front of that sentence my friend.
Are we going to start writing off fans of the series just because they didn't enjoy the chapter as much as we did? So they didn't enjoy the chapter and have some complaints. So they're different. This is normal, for any number of people on a blog to have differentiating opinions. A variety of opinions that won't all be positive.
As we can see from the majority of comments this chapter was well liked, so that gives us a good consensus of how this chapter rates overall. A few didn't like it and thought it was, as accurately as I can put it, "Meh". Doesn't mean those folks who didn't like this particular chapter aren't true One Piece fans. I really don't even know what would classify you as a true One Piece fan anyway. Truthfully, I would like anyone's opinion on this.
I was going to dissect this and counter your claims but it is obvious you are not understanding where I am coming from, probably because your young….no offense at all....and you'll probably take offense to that....hence proving you are....but anyway....im not going to waste my time defending a claim I did not make.
Everyone has a right to their opinion, hence to the "To each their own" part.
So does not liking the chapter strip you of being a True OP fan in my eyes? Nope.
Clear enough?
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i loved this chapter it build up anticipation for the crew reunion
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I doubt Zoro/Perona shit will be resolved next chapter.
Fuck.
i loved this chapter it build up anticipation for the crew reunion
Now that's a True one piece fan.
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Still curious why people said this is boring but seeing character development for other characters like SN or marines are called awesome chapter
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I really hoped they would show Zoro but my hope were dashed. DAMNS U'S SHONENS JUMPS!!! Hurry up next chapter.
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Hence why Nami and Usopp saying that Luffy is overdoing it…he is taking the whole crews protective responsibility on his own shoulders...and eventually it was going to pin him down...he was very fortunate that he is so likable (hinted because of his Will/K.Haki) that he had people help him instead of kill him...he definitely learned a hard lesson and escaped death a few times...and I am hoping he continues to see this as a lesson learned and develops accordingly.
Luffy, for the first half of OP, really was taking everything in on his own shoulders and seemed like he had inextinguishable strength and yet Oda made it a point to slam reality into the story and have Luffy learn the hard way...like most stubborn people ask for...now to see him grow and mature after that horrible tragedy and all the hard lessons...is golden and fulfilling...and a pure example of good writing.
Also, the Crew is worried about his Gears
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-483/page010.html
Specifically, Usopp said he was worried about the Gears, and that if there are enemies stronger then Moria would Luffy have to keep harming himself with Gears to beat them.
We know from Lucci that Gear Second shortens his life span, and Gear Third shrinks his body, and for all we know is tearing his rubber bones apart.
I saw this chapter as great growth for both Nami and Usopp who both have always been worried about Luffy, and who both acknowledge the fact that they are the weakest in the Crew, and need to start pulling their fare share and start protecting their captain.
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Still curious why people said this is boring but seeing character development for other characters like SN or marines are called awesome chapter
This stuff again!?
Straw Hats who are they? Screw them!
SN or Marines Yup only way to go.
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Then again…I guess it is also up to the personality of the reader. There are some who appreciate a story for all its worth; characters, emotions, plot, story, etc. and there are those who enjoy just the action and suspense...to each his own I guess.....
This stuff again!
I want my beams! booms! cool side story characters back!
I didn't know that because you didn't like THIS chapter, you were someone who only likes the fighting scene in One Piece.
Now I know why I was so moved by Hiriluk. It's because he exploded at the end. Thanks guys.
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This stuff again!?
Straw Hats who are they? Screw them!
SN or Marines Yup only way to go.
Than you have the wrong name and avatar^^
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Sorry to ask this, but when does the next chapter come out, someone said last week that it is a double issue, so does that mean ones coming out tomorrow?
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Nope, double issue does'nt literally mean you're getting 2 chapters. It means you're getting one chapter for 2 weeks. Come to think of it, it is a confusing term for someone new.
Next chapter will be next week as per usual. -
Sorry to ask this, but when does the next chapter come out, someone said last week that it is a double issue, so does that mean ones coming out tomorrow?
No the double issue just meant that the week before last's issue counted for two weeks. So there was no issue and chapter last week.
The next chapter will come out next Wednesday, like usual. (Unless there is some break that I have not heard about.)
Edit: I got beat. D: