Was the dumbest thing I have ever watched. So many flaws. So much repetitive nonsense. Just finished watching it now. Thank god it's over.
Did anyone else dislike this arc?
The Arabasta Kingdom Arc
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Care to explain the full details before we can decide?
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Was the dumbest thing I have ever watched. So many flaws. So much repetitive nonsense. Just finished watching it now. Thank god it's over.
Did anyone else dislike this arc?
Go and watch it again. You probably might be the only person that dislikes it. This arc turned OP from very good to awesome, it introduced us to one of the best villains in the series and also the build up to the finale was really good.
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Was the dumbest thing I have ever watched. So many flaws. So much repetitive nonsense. Just finished watching it now. Thank god it's over.
Did anyone else dislike this arc?
No. Explain yourself.
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One of my least favourite arcs containing my least favourite villain. What an overrated Croc. Having said that, it's still packed full of awesome, amusing and emotional moments, typical of any OP arc.
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First post of an account, my goodness surely this is sincere.
1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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Kindly explain this shit.
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Personally, I thought it was a good arc. Though I'm easily pleased when villains and silly things are abundant.
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It's one of my favorites :blink:
Maybe because of the anime fillers? They really screwed up it up with Ace, manga's better (as usual)Also I view Arabasta as the arc that convinced me that One Piece was a great series. Arlong just convinced me to keep on going, but Arabasta really sealed the deal for me.
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No. I thought it was actually one of the best, most memorable arcs.
- Didn't run on too long. Didn't Overstay it's welcome.
- Everyone got their own battles to display their powers.
- Paved the way for lots of returning characters like Bon Kurei.
- Introduced us to Luffy's Brother Ace. (Pretty important you know)
- The Journey to Alabasta gave us Chopper
- Luffy faces the villain 2 times before he beats him
Enies Lobby was done poorly in the anime, because they were getting close to the manga so they literally tried
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i really dislike this arc, but that does not mean it´s pointless for the plot. All the contrary, it´s very important to the story
Vivi can be really annoying, and that * 73 episodes / many many chapters = Really annoying vivi
Anyway, if you don´t want to watch all those episodes, watch the 8th movie. It´s obviously a lot quicker, but misses a lot of funny (and not funny) parts.
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Arabasta's probably my favourite arc so not quite.
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I'm giving Mr. First Post a chance to explain his against the norm opinion before just labelling him as a troll and banning him. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
Maybe he has interesting things to say. Perhaps he preferred Arlong and Drum? Or thought the anime was too padded? There are…some... legit reasons to dislike the arc.
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I might understand why an anime viewer might view Arabasta like that. The anime just had made so much filler in there with the Red beard pirates and how Ace traveled along with the gang, it was probably like about 15 episodes of filler. It was just too long for me so I ended up reading the arc instead. Much easier and then there was movie 8, but it skipped alot of stuff that was in Arabasta. So just read the manga if it gets too long.
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It was about five.
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It's kinda weird… I mean... if you don't like the Alabasta arc... You probably won't like One Piece much.
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There were five episodes of filler in Arabasta, the only one I liked was the one with Kamyu who was pretending to be the Rebel Army, because it felt very One Piece to me.
What I don't think people realize is that the pacing of the anime was bad even back in Arabasta, it wasn't that much better than it is now because if you watch some of those episodes they are very slow.
Although the manga version of Arabasta is really well done, of course
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There were five episodes of filler in Arabasta, the only one I liked was the one with Kamyu who was pretending to be the Rebel Army, because it felt very One Piece to me.
What I don't think people realize is that the pacing of the anime was bad even back in Arabasta, it wasn't that much better than it is now because if you watch some of those episodes they are very slow.
Although the manga version of Arabasta is really well done, of course
I'm thinking that if this poster turns out to be a troll perhaps we can have a mod change the discussion to the overall pacing issues of the anime. Especially since that has come up in spades with the latest Marineford episodes.
I do think its interesting that all the really popular Shonen Jump animes run into pacing issues at some point during their run. The popular 4 (One Piece, Dragonball, Naruto, and Bleach) have all had moments where someone has said "I'd rather read the manga because things go faster."
For me, I think One Piece's pacing changed the moment the original director left the anime series. Which, ironically, was around Enies Lobby. It also seems that the longer more important arcs have far more obvious pacing issues (Enies Lobby and Marineford) than the smaller transitional arcs (Saobody, Amazon Lily, Impel Down). While a lot of people would site Skypiea as having pacing issues I think that after seeing the Season Three set it's not as dragged out and things are happening with multiple characters, I would also say that Thriller Bark is in a similar boat.
O-chan
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Thats the nature of the beast though. A regular 20 page comic, if its FULL of dialgue, will fill about 7-10 minutes of screentime. Less if its an action packed sequence.
So. Weekly comic. Weekly anime. The comic storyboards only take up 1/3 of an anime episode's length. Early in an anime's run they can fit in 3 chapters an episode because the comic is well ahead. Later they change it to 2… and then eventually one, and the padding grows worse and worse.
Obviously, the worst time of all is when an anime arc catches up to an extremely long manga arc... where the manga story is taking place during a single day or at one location. When a guy is traveling the world having wacky adventures, its EASY for the anime to pad on extra self contained stories.
When he's locked in a fight with one guy for 2 years in a single spot with only two of the sidecast there while the planet explodes... its a lot harder to do anything resembling useful filler in the animation.
Its why filler arcs happen so much between arcs, or during training montages... thats the best time and place for them with the most creative freedom.
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I'd much prefer a long filler arc though to one chapter per episode. That's the kind of shit that ruins an anime in the long run.
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So. Weekly comic. Weekly anime. The comic storyboards only take up 1/3 of an anime episode's length. Early in an anime's run they can fit in 3 chapters an episode because the comic is well ahead. Later they change it to 2… and then eventually one, and the padding grows worse and worse.
It's just weird how the Buggy Arc has 4 chapters in one episode and the latest episodes have 3/4ths of 1 chapter. Hopefully a "One Piece Kai" will fix that, although honestly I don't think they did that great of a job with Dragon Ball Kai.
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@robbybedfart:
I'm giving Mr. First Post a chance to explain his against the norm opinion before just labelling him as a troll and banning him. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
Maybe he has interesting things to say. Perhaps he preferred Arlong and Drum? Or thought the anime was too padded? There are…some... legit reasons to dislike the arc.
There's a possibility of me being banned for simply stating my opinion and asking others for theirs? Seriously? What an unfair forum.
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Only if you don't stay the reasoning behind your opinions, like what those flaws were and what was repetitive.
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It's just weird how the Buggy Arc has 4 chapters in one episode and the latest episodes have 3/4ths of 1 chapter.
There's nothing weird about that. Every long running anime starts at a faster pacing and is eventually forced to slow down or end.
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There's a possibility of me being banned for simply stating my opinion and asking others for theirs? Seriously? What an unfair forum.
@robbybedfart:
I'm giving Mr. First Post a chance to explain his against the norm opinion before just labelling him as a troll and banning him. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
Explain or ban. Choose your pick. Arabasta is generally considered one of the better OP arcs by the community, so calling it the worst (or one of the worst) arc without even backing up your opinions qualifies you as a troll.
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There's a possibility of me being banned for simply stating my opinion and asking others for theirs? Seriously? What an unfair forum.
It's not that because you stated your opinion. It's that you didn't state any reasoning behind it and it was also your first post. Those types of things sometimes indicates a troll but he decided to wait to see if it were true.
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There's nothing weird about that. Every long running anime starts at a faster pacing and is eventually forced to slow down or end.
What I'm saying is it's weird that this happens for all the long-running animes and that they don't seem to be finding better ways for pacing. I know why though, it's greed, the animation companies can't wait another year to start the adaption and start a little slower because they all need their mega-profit.
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I prefer Skypiea and the Water 7 arcs much more than Alabasta, but it was a great arc too. It introduced us to Robin, Bon-chan and a lot of things. Also, this poster is a troll, i wouldn't make a post like that even if i hated Alabasta arc
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Explain or ban. Choose your pick. Arabasta is generally considered one of the better OP arcs by the community, so calling it the worst (or one of the worst) arc without even backing up your opinions qualifies you as a troll.
haha So because I don't agree with the average opinion, that warrants me being banned? What a joke.
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haha So because I don't agree with the average opinion, that warrants me being banned? What a joke.
Explaining why you don't agree makes the thread less pointless than it is now.
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haha So because I don't agree with the average opinion, that warrants me being banned? What a joke.
See, now you're giving him more reason to ban you for trolling. Dude, all you have to do is 'explain the reasons why you dislike it'
Firstly, because it's common courtesy after you've been asked. Secondly, because if you're
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haha So because I don't agree with the average opinion, that warrants me being banned? What a joke.
You know what else counts as trolling? Making the same inflammatory comments over and over while ignoring the explanations already given to you.
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hmm… Vivi, Croc, Mr 1., 2., ROBIN…. sorry dude, but that's awesome part of One Piece, and touching also
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The Arabasta arc was freaking awesome dude!
You got every Straw Hat fighting an amazing battle, not to mention crocodile was in it, the lead up to the battle was long, though it helped to build up tension and we got to see carue, vivi, robin and a pretty cool corruption storyline.
Dont' insult one of the best arcs in OP man.
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haha So because I don't agree with the average opinion, that warrants me being banned? What a joke.
haha So because I constantly avoid answering a simple request and don't bother with an explanation to my opinion, that warrants me being banned? What a joke. Wait…..
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^More like he doesn't have an explanation, so he constantly avoids the request… :ninja:
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@Mr.:
haha So because I constantly avoid answering a simple request and don't bother with an explanation to my opinion, that warrants me being banned? What a joke. Wait…..
"Was the dumbest thing I have ever watched. So many flaws. So much repetitive nonsense."
Derp.
I already explained why I didn't like it.
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It's one of my favorites :blink:
Maybe because of the anime fillers? They really screwed up it up with Ace, manga's better (as usual)Also I view Arabasta as the arc that convinced me that One Piece was a great series. Arlong just convinced me to keep on going, but Arabasta really sealed the deal for me.
I really did not mind the extra stuff with Ace. It allowed us to see more of him in the anime which I think is important because they did not do his cover story. It is certainly not part of the original vision but I think it did a good job of fleshing out his personality a little bit.
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Derp.
I already explained why I didn't like it.
Bravo, what a fantastic explanation. Here's your cookie.
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This thread is bullshit until there are some decent explanations.
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Isn't the use of "derp" an auto-ban?
