I hope not, as I get to say Batman: Arkham City comes out on my 21st birthday.
Yes, I'm aware how sad I am.
It comes out three days after my birthday so you ain't alone, my friend since I care more about the game than my bday
I hope not, as I get to say Batman: Arkham City comes out on my 21st birthday.
Yes, I'm aware how sad I am.
It comes out three days after my birthday so you ain't alone, my friend since I care more about the game than my bday
I'll end up getting this game a few years later just like I did with Arkham Asylum .
i'll end up getting this game a few years later just like i did with arkham asylum .
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Am I the only one who is iffy on the Penguin's voice? I mean, he's supposed to be a Blue-blood. He's supposed to be high-society…. But Cockney? He has a Cockney accent?! Really?!... uuugh
Am I the only one who is iffy on the Penguin's voice? I mean, he's supposed to be a Blue-blood. He's supposed to be high-society…. But Cockney? He has a Cockney accent?! Really?!... uuugh
And the voice isn't even made by a person with a natural Cockney accent. So yeah, I'm not too excited about his voice.
You two are silly, the voice is just fine.
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You gotta realize, Buuhan. I already have so many games that I need to play and that I have preordered. This game isn't high on my list since I haven't even beaten the first one.
Penguin audio tape with the Pro. himself!
Penguin audio tape with the Pro. himself!
Okay, NOW I'm liking the voice. It just wasn't what I excpected. Still can't believe that's Nolan North.
Am I the only one who is iffy on the Penguin's voice? I mean, he's supposed to be a Blue-blood. He's supposed to be high-society…. But Cockney? He has a Cockney accent?! Really?!... uuugh
Yeah…at least he looks good. He usually gets screwed in all media outside the comics.
Yeah…at least he looks good. He usually gets screwed in all media outside the comics.
He was done somewhat well in the animated series.
Out of topic: Penquin would make a great addition to a future film, obviously not as main villain but as a side villain mobster.
I'll end up getting this game a few years later just like I did with Arkham Asylum .
Probably same here to a lesser extent. Last time Arkham Asylum was £20 a few days after Christmas and never went back up in price. I'd be surprised if this doesn't follow suit. Nothing against the game at all but I just refuse to buy PS3 games till a month or two down the line when they're cheaper.
I am looking forward to it tho. I barely know who is gonna be in aside from Catwoman and Penguin (and obviously Joker and Quinn). Two Face I think. The first is still one of my favourite PS3 games that I played.
He was done somewhat well in the animated series.
Out of topic: Penquin would make a great addition to a future film, obviously not as main villain but as a side villain mobster.
I will NEVER understand why superhero movies don't do this. sigh
I will NEVER understand why superhero movies don't do this. sigh
Before Raimi was off Spider-man I had a BETTER idea for how to use The Vulture:
The movie opens and Spider-man is fighting the Vulture. Scene last for 5-8 minutes and Spider-man leaves him for the police. He isn't in the movie anymore, Lizard is the main bad guy.
I also have always thought that they could use The Penguin in the Nolan-verse Batman movies as just the club-owner of the Iceberg lounge who deals in shady business and Batman gets info from him.
I will NEVER understand why superhero movies don't do this. sigh
Scarecrow in The Dark Knight.
He doesn't count really, due to the first movie. He was kinda just, like "Hey, remember me? I was actually one of the main villains in the first movie! Yeah, I went out like a total bitch, but I'm still around!"
20-25 hours main campaign and an additional 10-15 hours for side stuff?! Holy… I have a feeling depsite all the surprises they've revealed with that kinda game length we're gonna be in for a whole lot more when we play it.
Is it wrong that I would pay good money for that Dark Knight Returns Batman skin?
Because DKR is one of my favorite stories of all time!
He doesn't count really, due to the first movie. He was kinda just, like "Hey, remember me? I was actually one of the main villains in the first movie! Yeah, I went out like a total bitch, but I'm still around!"
But I enjoyed that actually.
It's how all superhero movies really should handle their villains instead of killing them off, making an event completely out of character for the hero.
Nolan's movies were really good for that. He didn't kill the joker, (that would've been in really bad taste if he did though I guess.) or "confirm" Al Guhl's death.
I didn't like how he killed Two Face though, especially in a situation that Batman is very good at handling. Batman just… wouldn't have made that mistake, especially when it's someone he cares about. Nolan should've found a better way to kill him/end him.
This game looks incredible, and anyone who doesn't get it should feel bad.
I felt bad when I waited to get Arkham 1 for $30. After an hour of playing I was all "THIS GAME WAS WORTH FULL PRICE!!!!!"
It's not a sin to get a full-price worthy game for cheaper.
When I went shopping for Dragon Age I found lo and behold that Best Buy was offering it for 20 bucks off for a limited time. I didn't buy used (the horror! DAO never deserves that) but I was kinder to my wallet.
Nolan's movies were really good for that. He didn't kill the joker, (that would've been in really bad taste if he did though I guess.) or "confirm" Al Guhl's death.
I didn't like how he killed Two Face though, especially in a situation that Batman is very good at handling. Batman just… wouldn't have made that mistake, especially when it's someone he cares about. Nolan should've found a better way to kill him/end him.
Two Face was about to blow a innocent kid's brains out. He had no choice. That and he was pretty much tired after being attacked by many dogs, then beaten with a crowbar multiple times, then stabbed with a knife by the Joker.
Two Face was about to blow a innocent kid's brains out. He had no choice. That and he was pretty much tired after being attacked by many dogs, then beaten with a crowbar multiple times, then stabbed with a knife by the Joker.
If you want to go the "realistic" approach then yeah, but it's Batman, that's his thing, he's not ordinary. He benchpressed 600lbs of dirt to get out of a coffin.
And there was a scene just like that in the red hood:
"Then, Jason reveals the place where he has hidden the Joker. He tosses a gun to Batman and takes one for himself. Using the Joker as a human shield, Jason points his gun at the Joker's head and tells Batman that he must either kill Jason, or let Jason kill the Joker on a count of three. At the last half-second, Batman drops the gun and throws a batarang at Jason's shoulder. "
It happened, I'm over it. I just felt that wasn't a Batman move I saw in that movie.
If you want to go the "realistic" approach then yeah, but it's Batman, that's his thing, he's not ordinary. He benchpressed 600lbs of dirt to get out of a coffin.
And there was a scene just like that in the red hood:"Then, Jason reveals the place where he has hidden the Joker. He tosses a gun to Batman and takes one for himself. Using the Joker as a human shield, Jason points his gun at the Joker's head and tells Batman that he must either kill Jason, or let Jason kill the Joker on a count of three. At the last half-second, Batman drops the gun and throws a batarang at Jason's shoulder. "
It happened, I'm over it. I just felt that wasn't a Batman move I saw in that movie.
Your right, Batman in the comics would have used like a batarang to prevent Two-face from killing the kid. But like a realistic person he was worried he might cause Two-face to kill the child even faster, if he like missed. .
Don't forget the distance he was from Two-face holding the gun to the boys head, seconds away from killing him.
Also Nolan Batman is not as smart, or as competent as his comics counterpart.
If you want to go the "realistic" approach then yeah, but it's Batman, that's his thing, he's not ordinary. He benchpressed 600lbs of dirt to get out of a coffin.
And there was a scene just like that in the red hood:"Then, Jason reveals the place where he has hidden the Joker. He tosses a gun to Batman and takes one for himself. Using the Joker as a human shield, Jason points his gun at the Joker's head and tells Batman that he must either kill Jason, or let Jason kill the Joker on a count of three. At the last half-second, Batman drops the gun and throws a batarang at Jason's shoulder. "
It happened, I'm over it. I just felt that wasn't a Batman move I saw in that movie.
Sounds like someone needs to read Deathstroke's origins to see the fallacy in your argument.
It's Tales of the Teen Titans #44, by the way.
Imbued with enhanced physical powers by secret army experiments attempting to create metahuman supersoldiers for the U.S. military, Deathstroke became a mercenary soon after the experiment when he defied orders and rescued his friend Wintergreen, who had been sent on a suicide mission by a commanding officer with a grudge.[1] However, he kept this career secret from his family, even though his wife was an expert military combat instructor—indeed, she had been responsible for a significant portion of his early training—until a criminal named the Jackal took his younger son, Joseph, hostage to force Slade to divulge the name of a client who had hired him as an assassin. Slade refused to do so, claiming that it was against his personal honor code, and attacked and killed the kidnappers at the rendezvous. Unfortunately, Joseph's throat was slashed by one of the criminals before Slade could prevent it, destroying his vocal cords and rendering him mute.
You mean that? Yeah, Slade failed but Batman did succeed in a similar situation. Is it normal? No. Is there a huge risk? Yes.
Would comic Batman fail? Probably not.
You mean that? Yeah, Slade failed but Batman did succeed in a similar situation. Is it normal? No. Is there a huge risk? Yes.
Would comic Batman fail? Probably not.
Wiki did not quote the situation very good. I'll post the scans in a few minutes. By the way, Slade basically has Captain America's powers. Batman does not. He wouldn't have succeeded.
Really modern comic Batman has killed, if its absolutely necessary. He doesn't really have a super-strict moral on killing, if situation calls for it he will break his one rule.
As he said once in a canonical story Batman #420
''Sometimes you have to ignore the rules. I'm not in this business to protect the rules, I serve justice.''
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Also, that scene from the movie "Under the Red Hood"? Never happened in the comic. The only scene with the Joker in it is Jason beating him repeatedly with a crowbar in the first issue. The story was changed almost completely because the original has Superman, Green Arrow, and Zatanna in it as well as relying more on continuity.
Regardless, I think comic Batman would have acted the same. I doubt comic Two-face would have died, however.
Wiki did not quote the situation very good. I'll post the scans in a few minutes. By the way, Slade basically has Captain America's powers. Batman does not. He wouldn't have succeeded.
Edit: Saw the comic, wow. That's awesome.
I didn't that Red hood scene didn't happen in the comics.
but you guys know what I meant, Batman is usually pretty "omg hax".
Really modern comic Batman has killed, if its absolutely necessary. He doesn't really have a super-strict moral on killing, if situation calls for it he will break his one rule.
As he said once in a canonical story Batman #420
''Sometimes you have to ignore the rules. I'm not in this business to protect the rules, I serve justice.''
Oh wow, news to me. Then my goodness he really should've killed the Joker by now.
From the message I'm getting from you:
Batman's logic
"Hostage situation with a gun to the head of an innocent: Kill if I must, save the innocent."
"A building of 100 gets wiped out by toxic laughing gas: Send Joker to Arkham."
Oh wow, news to me. Then my goodness he really should've killed the Joker by now.
From the message I'm getting from you:
Batman's logic
"Hostage situation with a gun to the head of an innocent: Kill if I must, save the innocent."
Interesting article.
http://gothamalleys.blogspot.com/2010/11/killer-batman.html
And Batman barely has time to react to Joker's crimes most of the time.
That and it varies by writer, and don't forget Joker is popular.
And Batman barely has time to react to Joker's crimes most of the time.
That and it varies by writer, and don't forget Joker is popular.
Yeah and Kevin Smith writes this god-awful crap people eat up:
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The pages following this contains a bunch of creepy overt homosexual overtones. People praise this story for some reason (just like ALL of Kevin Smith's "work")
Interesting article.
http://gothamalleys.blogspot.com/2010/11/killer-batman.htmlAnd Batman barely has time to react to Joker's crimes most of the time.
That and it varies by writer, and don't forget Joker is popular.
Haha, that was good read, and fun too see. 1920's Batman was no joke.
Yeah and Kevin Smith writes this god-awful crap people eat up:
The pages following this contains a bunch of creepy overt homosexual overtones. People praise this story for some reason (just like ALL of Kevin Smith's "work")
Wow… I raged pretty hard. but that's exactly what I was talking about. If they don't want to kill the Joker, then don't have him do such over the top stuff.
Haha, that was good read, and fun too see. 1920's Batman was no joke.
Wow… I raged pretty hard. but that's exactly what I was talking about. If they don't want to kill the Joker, then don't have him do such over the top stuff.
Th version of the no killing rule that I like the best is the one in which just because Batman doesn't kill his enemies, doesn't exactly mean he has to save them, unless the reason their about to be killed is because of a direct action from him. Some writers try to portray Batman as too overly moral, even to the point of lobbying for the Joker to be excused from the death penalty. He doesn't have to kill him, but certainly doesn't have to go that far to save him either. The reason Batman saved the Joker from death in Dark knight was because he was about to kill him, he had a chance.
With Harvey he never had the chance, his options were limited. The reason he killed Dent because he was focused on preventing him from killing the boy, that and Harvey was standing close to the ledge so he had it coming. He couldn't save both.
Nolan's version of Batman is just a guy in a suit. That's suppose to be what Batman is in all other mediums, but no, he's not "just a man." He doesn't have superpowers, but he's pretty damn close. Nolan's version is much more realistic, that's the entire point of his Batman films are to be as realistic as possible.
I don't care what some may think, no one, even with all the money and training possible, could be classic Batman in real life.
No one could be Nolan's Batman either.
Just saying.
Nolan's version of Batman is just a guy in a suit. That's suppose to be what Batman is in all other mediums, but no, he's not "just a man." He doesn't have superpowers, but he's pretty damn close. Nolan's version is much more realistic, that's the entire point of his Batman films are to be as realistic as possible.
I don't care what some may think, no one, even with all the money and training possible, could be classic Batman in real life.
Nolan's version of Batman is not realistic, he's more plausible yes but he isn't very realistic. A guy wearing nothing but Kevlar armour driving an obnoxious tank is strong enough to change a crime ridden city in just 18 months?
by himself.
Realistic Batman is Rorschach from Watchmen. That's what Batman would be in real life.
Real life Batman would be an obsessive, antisocial train-wreck, who would have made very little impact in a real life corrupted city and would have either died or retired a long time ago. Nolan Batman is Hollywood's 'pretty face' version of what Bat's would be in our world.
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No one could be Nolan's Batman either.
Just saying.
Agreed.
Also why do people keep saying Batman is more relatable because he has no superpowers?
Batman is actually one of the least relatable characters in comics. Batman is essentially one of the statistically very rare rich kids who had their parents killed right in front of them in an alley in a first world country. He eventually decides to embark on a life on crime-fighting, training like a super-soldier and then lives a double life as a womanizer/playboy and underweared bat-vigilante while having an IQ of 190 that can do almost anything from memorizing entire books, to regularly bench-pressing at least 1000 lbs who's a perfectionist on every known science, history, martial art and language. Find me someone that is like that, or even close to that in real life.
Now I guess people relate to Bat's as a 'dark' character, but no person in real life can become like him at all, no matter how hard they worked.
Now I'm sure folks have lost loved ones here, but has anyone here ever really wanted to be Batman? I know I wouldn't. There's no way I would use vigilantism as some sort of bizarre psycho therapy to help get over my parents murder when I own billions of dollars, drive fast cars, and get chicks.
Also why do people keep saying Batman is more relatable because he has no superpowers?
Because people are confusing being relatable for wish fulfillment.
I was about to go on about how stupid of a character Superman is, but then realized… this thread is about Batman: Arkham City.
Well Bill, I thought it was pretty clear that Bruce Wayne is bonkers.
I always found Dick Grayson much more enjoyable as a character, Bruce was obviously dead inside. You'd think Grayson would've helped him psychologically…
I was about to go on about how stupid of a character Superman is, but then realized… this thread is about Batman: Arkham City.
Batman is even more of a stupid character than Superman if you think about.
Batman a billionaire rich dude, that dresses up as a bat to fight criminals at night WHILE STILL TAKING CHILDREN WITH HIM ON HIS WAR ON CRIME EVEN TWO OF THEM, THAT HE HAS EMPLOYED ALREADY DIED. HE THEN LEAVES THEIR BURIAL WITH 'A good solider' LINE ATTACHED.
Superman a refuge immigrant from a dying planet, uses his powers he inherited to fight for good. Wears his costume because of his alien heritage.
Which is more of a stupid character now?
Batman is even more of s stupid character than Superman if you think about.
Batman a billionaire rich dude, that dresses up as a bat to fight criminals at night WHILE STILL TAKING CHILDREN WITH HIM ON HIS WAR ON CRIME EVEN TWO OF THEM, THAT HE HAS EMPLOYED ALREADY DIED. HE THEN LEAVES THEIR BURIAL WITH 'A good solider' LINE ATTACHED.
Superman a refuge immigrant from a dying planet, uses his powers he inherited to fight for good. Wears his costume because of his alien heritage.
Which is more of a stupid character now?
Like I said… Bonkers.
Does anyone find it funny how other writers choose to portray Batman as having this strict no killing rule when he has his own fair share of skeletons in his closet.
I mean you see him bashing Wonder Woman for killing, even its killing a mass murderer then next you see him getting away with shit like this.
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This is in continuity by the way.
His excuse could be he was "drugged". But that link you posted had him being pretty brutal.
Well Bill, I thought it was pretty clear that Bruce Wayne is bonkers.
I always found Dick Grayson much more enjoyable as a character, Bruce was obviously dead inside. You'd think Grayson would've helped him psychologically…
Depends on which Wayne and which Grayson you are talking about.
If you read the O'Neil Wayne than you wouldn't think that. This was BEFORE year one, however.
Most modern readers don't see Dick as being a very good detective. If they were reading anything he was in BEFORE crisis (aka before Tim Drake) then they would be wrong.
uh…. which ever time and place the "Robin" series takes place in? I've never finished a story in a comic book before ( aside from Maximum Carnage) so I have no clue.
(mainly because as a kid, I only went to the comic book store every so often. I lived 10 miles out of town, and then it was 10-15 more to the comic store… with traffic and stop lights and downtown. My dad didn't feel like making the drive so I could see what Spidey, and the caped crusaders were up to... :( )
As an adult I have no excuse, I just felt so out of the loop that I've been waiting for new stories to start.
Robin is a good character, but his old outfit and the 60's show really hurt his public image.
That and the Schumacher films(especially Batman and Robin) pretty much sealed the deal for him as a 'lame' character to the public. I want a more modern, properly done Robin that helps Batman not become too obsessive with his mission(that's his whole entire point anyway).
Robin could work in the live-action movie franchise even if the movies continue the more realistic tone, that started in the Nolan verse.
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