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Chapter 595: "Oath" Discussion
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Well, since One Piece is on break, I wonder what I should read now? what else is good these days…
Also, I'm sure this was brought up, but Apoo seem really weak in this chapter. is anyone else disappointed or is that just me? He has such a neat devil fruit, but it's just confusing as to how he's got a high bounty when running away is virtually the only thing he's been doing. although I suppose someone's got to be the comic relief guy (at least I hope that's all it is).
I actually liked watching Apoo having fun like the strawhats, I already know Apoo is good when comes down to a fight from the SA arc. Even though he got light speed kicked threw a building. Got to agree with you on his devil fruit think its also pretty neat. Well just because Kidd took out some weaklings and Drake is trying instigate a Yonkou don't think Apoo's weak. Well then again might not be my place to say this if your Apoo fan probably would had liked a crushing scene for him.
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I actually liked watching Apoo having fun like the strawhats, I already know Apoo is good when comes down to a fight from the SA arc. Even though he got light speed kicked threw a building. Got to agree with you on his devil fruit think its also pretty neat. Well just because Kidd took out some weaklings and Drake is trying instigate a Yonkou don't think Apoo's weak. Well then again might not be my place to say this if your Apoo fan probably would had liked a crushing scene for him.
Yosh! I agree with you sir…
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Uh does anyone know why the spoilers always take so long if it comes out on monday, why do I have to wait till Wednesday usually for my spoiler satisfaction???
Did it EVER occur to you that the spoilers come the WEEK BEFORE the monday publication, therefore it's called a "spoiler"?
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I was reading Apoo's page on the wikia, and it says he's a passive guy… Maybe he just doesn't like to fight and that's why he always seems to run away...
I'd love to see Brook with his (Apoo) devil fruit
One Piece wikia is a fairly good source of info, but they do have mistakes on their website too, so I would be careful about using that site if you want 100% accurate facts. I'm kind of torn a bit on Apoo's DF though. people have speculated that all members of the long arm tribe are talented with music and that's how Brook will train, but at the same time it takes away from the uniqueness of Apoo a bit. I certainly hope Brook does improve his music attacks though.
I actually liked watching Apoo having fun like the strawhats, I already know Apoo is good when comes down to a fight from the SA arc. Even though he got light speed kicked threw a building. Got to agree with you on his devil fruit think its also pretty neat. Well just because Kidd took out some weaklings and Drake is trying instigate a Yonkou don't think Apoo's weak. Well then again might not be my place to say this if your Apoo fan probably would had liked a crushing scene for him.
Yeah, all the supernovas are being pretty badass as of late, which I feel really happy about because I felt it was unfair to have their only role be "get ass kicked by Kizaru." :P
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Did it EVER occur to you that the spoilers come the WEEK BEFORE the monday publication, therefore it's called a "spoiler"?
…Nope, I'm still a little hung over NOT. Can't think of everything
Randy "Macho Man" Savage voice.
"Your going no where! I got your for the rest of your life!"
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That's why it's better to post when you're completely sober.
But try telling that to Steven.
I was kidding. Geesh.
Eeh! They closed my thread. Oh well
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http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-581/page005.html
Skimming through the chapters after the war, I noticed bonney saying she must find "him"…
Any speculations?
Sorry if this have been posted before! Didn't read through the whole 45 pages.
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I think she was talkin about Luffy for ruining her time on the Shabondy Archipelago with the whole punching spoiled nazis thing, then Kizaru coming and closing the lid on everything
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Yes, you're right about that. I'm bad at recognising the traits of certain characters, so I often depend of the wikia to help me out.
When I first saw it I also though it was about Luffy. But thinking about it… Do you think she might've been speaking about Black Beard? He was the one at fault, and that maybe explains why she became his prisoner.
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I don't know about that, that navy guy just said one of the supernovas had already fallen to blackbeard. I didn't get any feelings that she went looking for Blackbeard. Seeing as he had just dropped Whitebeard, I think most people who be scared to fight him, or even search him out.
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At first I was a bit skeptical that Bonney was talking about Blackbeard, but it makes more sense if I think about it. I had assumed Blackbeard wanted to make even more of a name for himself by hunting a supernova, but it could just be Bonney attacked him, and Blackbeard used that opportunity to try and negotiate a ship (don't know how he thought that could have worked though, in all honesty). Or he could have targeted her from the start and she just happens to walk into it by seeking him out.
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I don't think its luffy or blackbeard she was looking for, I mean BB just defeated WB and all of the sudden she wants to find him? I think he intercepted her while going to meet "someone".
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Well if like people have been saying that Bonney is some relation to some Wg or navy high ranker, trader her for a ship could have worked if it weren't one of the admirals riding the ship.
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Then maybe it was an admiral?
By the way, what's the "It's" on "It's all his fault."? The beginning of the new age? -
"It" could mean Ace's death, Whitebeard's, or something else entirely, which hasn't yet been revealed to us. she was seen crying so it could be that she's connected to WB somehow.
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She could of been talking about Blackbeard, or in my opinion Luffy. Luffy beat Crocodile, so Blackbeard went after Luffy to get the newly opened position. But Luffy went to Enies Lobbies to fight CP9 and rescue Robin, which gave Ace enough time to catch BB who has after Luffy. But Ace lost, was used by BB to get his shicibukai position, and of course that ultimately lead to the whole navy & shicibukai vs WB pirates over Ace. Most people would say that BB started the war, but if Luffy hadn't knocked off Crocodile none of it would've ever taken place. So maybe Bonney knows all of this and blames the whole thing on Luffy
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I wonder how many people know that Crocodile was actually defeated by Luffy though? It was supposed to be kept a secret by the government, but for some reason I get the feeling that everyone knows, even if there's not really evidence for it. Smoker doesn't really seem the type to keep quiet about it, but I highly doubt he went around telling people the truth either.
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Shakky knew, Rayleigh, Ivankov I'm pretty sure knew too. People who are up there in the world wheter they're pirates, navy, or wg seem to now. Plus the revolutinaries knew cause they were there, so I'm pretty sure they told lots of people to show how corrupt the WG is
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The WG seriously needs someone like Smoker on the top…
But how could Bonney know that Ace's capture was related to Luffy? I don't think Black Beard went around saying he was looking for Luffy... The fact that Ace caught up with him at that time was a coincidence, right?
By the way... Knowing that Luffy was not on the New World, why would she go there to look for him?
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Is it possible that Bonney could be WB's daughter or has a connection of some sort? Or possibly even Ace's girlfriend? The latter is unlikely so…
Who knows, she could even be Akainu's daughter! Unfortunately we have to wait till the next chapter comes out sigh
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The WG seriously needs someone like Smoker on the top…
But how could Bonney know that Ace's capture was related to Luffy? I don't think Black Beard went around saying he was looking for Luffy... The fact that Ace caught up with him at that time was a coincidence, right?
By the way... Knowing that Luffy was not on the New World, why would she go there to look for him?That's a good point. Luffy's location is unknown to everyone except Shakky, Rayleigh, Jinbei, Law, and Hancock (I think that's basically everyone right?). although BB did express interest in taking Luffy's head back in Jaya, I don't think that was his first priority. His main concern was getting a ship.
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Hm… But if she knew about White Beard's death then she must've known that Luffy was there... I mean... She cried because of something, if not because she knew of WB death, then why?
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Everyone in the whole world knows that Luffy was there. It was a live broadcast, and then it was printed in every newspaper on top of that.
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I think the next chapter almost certainly will be about the Strawhats, and Bonney will probably be left in the dark for quite a few more. It's not Oda's style to answer questions the chapter after they're posed. :P
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Wait wha…?
Bonney went looking for Blackbeard. Whitebeard died, Bonney cried, said it's all his fault, headed for the New World. Target = Blackbeard. Blackbeard later defeated Bonney in the New World. To much coincidence that they just ran into each other. Bonney was searching him out (though it is quite convenient Blackbeard could attempt a negotiation with the Marines thanks to capturing Bonney). Anyway, this whole mess is because of Blackbeard. Even if Luffy never acquired a high bounty drawing the attention of Blackbeard, the fight between Ace and Blackbeard was still inevitable the moment he killed Thatch. Ace gets captured and we're back to the war again with Ace and Whitebeard's death.
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She could of been talking about Blackbeard, or in my opinion Luffy. Luffy beat Crocodile, so Blackbeard went after Luffy to get the newly opened position. But Luffy went to Enies Lobbies to fight CP9 and rescue Robin, which gave Ace enough time to catch BB who has after Luffy. But Ace lost, was used by BB to get his shicibukai position, and of course that ultimately lead to the whole navy & shicibukai vs WB pirates over Ace. Most people would say that BB started the war, but if Luffy hadn't knocked off Crocodile none of it would've ever taken place. So maybe Bonney knows all of this and blames the whole thing on Luffy
The only way in the world that Bonney could have put this together is if she was reading the manga along side of us or she is some omniscient goddess. The only people who know about Luffy defeating Crocodile are people who specialize in information gathering, such as the revolutionaries or Shakky. Even if she knew that somehow (doubtful, looking at her personality,) how the heck would she know about Blackbeard chasing Luffy? It was an opportunistic thing, he wasn't sending fliers around the Grand Line about his plans. And how would she know anything about the time line (Ace catching Blackbeard right after Water 7)? Ace's whereabouts were released a week before his execution.
And you're wrong about Luffy setting off a chain of events. If Luffy had never took out Crocodile, he wouldn't have been Blackbeard's target, and Ace still would have fought against Blackbeard and been executed. Seriously, why would anyone use this circular logic instead of just blaming the person who actually did it?
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That's why it's better to post when you're completely sober.
But try telling that to Steven.
You hurted me.
Now that I'm in the land of mandatory enkai, don't expect anything less, though. :getlost:
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After this chapter, I'm thinking Bonney was after either Blackbeard or Akainu. I'm leaning towards Akainu, though. He weakened WB enough that BB could take him out, not to mention killed Ace, so he was largely reponsible for the two things that were most likely to be what made her cry. Then in this chapter it shows she has some passed connection to him, and she screams that she'll never forgive "you people," which certainly seems to include Akainu.
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I think the reason why Jewelry Bonny is so valuable to the WG that makes Akainu "scared" that she got away is because of her DF power. She is the only one who is capable of restoring youth to the the 5* elders. With Sengoku retiring, I don't see how the Marines/WG can maintain the balance between them and the 3 remining Yonkou + Blackbeard without introducing a new power. As Oda continues to introduce the revolutionary army, I believe the coming arcs will focus on their battle against the WG. Also, I believe the higher power that ordered Moria's execution was also one of the 5* elders who's youth was restored by Bonny before she escaped.
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After this chapter, I'm thinking Bonney was after either Blackbeard or Akainu. I'm leaning towards Akainu, though. He weakened WB enough that BB could take him out, not to mention killed Ace, so he was largely reponsible for the two things that were most likely to be what made her cry. Then in this chapter it shows she has some passed connection to him, and she screams that she'll never forgive "you people," which certainly seems to include Akainu.
But she went to the NW–no reason for her to assume that Akainu would head there, although for sure BB would, as a pirate claiming the age for himself--and she was captured by BB--so it could logically be construed that she was looking for him (although of course it hasn't been stated.)
Furthermore it was clear from the dialog that BB had no idea that Akainu would go there when he made the offer to trade Bonney for a ship, so Bonney couldn't have known either.
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It was BB who was directly and officially responsible for Wb's death, and Bonney cried after that. So it's pretty safe to say that Bonney was after BB. Bonney ran away from the WG, so she shouldn't run into Akainu.
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@Sea:
It was BB who was directly and officially responsible for Wb's death, and Bonney cried after that. So it's pretty obvious that Bonney was after BB. LOL, Bonney ran away from the WG, there is no reason for her to run into Akainu.
Yes, and this. (Nice new avatar Sea.)
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lol Blackbeard tried to make Bonney his b**ch but Akainu came and did that instead
I am Mansopp the most manliest man to ever man.
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@Sea:
It was BB who was directly and officially responsible for Wb's death, and Bonney cried after that. So it's pretty safe to say that Bonney was after BB. Bonney ran away from the WG, so she shouldn't run into Akainu.
@I:
But she went to the NW–no reason for her to assume that Akainu would head there, although for sure BB would, as a pirate claiming the age for himself--and she was captured by BB--so it could logically be construed that she was looking for him (although of course it hasn't been stated.)
Furthermore it was clear from the dialog that BB had no idea that Akainu would go there when he made the offer to trade Bonney for a ship, so Bonney couldn't have known either.
All fair points, and it's definitely not a bulletproof theory. But imarineford is on the way to the NW from SA so it's possible that since the plan was already to head to the NW and she wanted to get a move on right away to try run into Akainu (or BB, for that matter). And I also wouldn't think it'd be too much of a stretch to think that Akainu would be following the various escaping pirates to the NW. As far as not wanting to run back to the WG because she just escaped, if she was afraid of getting caught it'd make only slightly less sense to run straight to the guy who just caught and handed to the government the second commander of WB.
But either way, I agree that it is more likely BB, I just didn't bother elaborating on why it was likely him since it was already well covered.
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Bonney was heading to NW to restore WB's youth. Akainu knew this, thus he worried about that. That's why she's angry about the marine (indirectly) causing WB's death before she can reach him.
Bonney is actually WB's lover in the past. They got separated when she's obsessed with the secret of eternal life/youth. When she finally found the DF, she wanted to meet WB and relive their love.
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Bonney was heading to NW to restore WB's youth. Akainu knew this, thus he worried about that. That's why she's angry about the marine (indirectly) causing WB's death before she can reach him.
Bonney is actually WB's lover in the past. They got separated when she's obsessed with the secret of eternal life/youth. When she finally found the DF, she wanted to meet WB and relive their love.
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did oda said that bonney DF work forever on the person
it could be just temp. till it effect worn offI don't think it is eternal. That would be too hax.
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we have no idea how long her powers work
have to assume both forever and short term
but regardless of if forever or short term it is a deadly fruit.
if forever, then bam you make ex: whitebeard 20 again.
if short term, then bam you make ex: whitebeard 20 again for the duration of the war.the outcome would have been hugely different if we have a prime whitebeard.
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I think 20 wasn't whitebeards Prime though. I think he was a rookie back than and has a shitload of more power in the war than any 20-year old even if he is sick or whatever. just saying that I would transform him to like 32 or something. Not old and his body at that age would have probably had more fighting experience and whatnot
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I think 20 wasn't whitebeards Prime though. I think he was a rookie back than and has a shitload of more power in the war than any 20-year old even if he is sick or whatever. just saying that I would transform him to like 32 or something. Not old and his body at that age would have probably had more fighting experience and whatnot
well obviously his experience would not dissapear, so whatever his prime muscles, eye sight, hearing, ect is would be the ultimate age.
i think for men it is something like their prime 24 or something.
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if moria's DF can last forever, i dont see why cant bonney's. nonetheless, her DF is hax regardless. imagine rayleigh with zoro's body. o_O
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if moria's DF can last forever, i dont see why cant bonney's. nonetheless, her DF is hax regardless. imagine rayleigh with zoro's body. o_O
Maybe if they jump in a pool of water they will revert back to normal. Like Salt water in a zombies body.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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im thinking if bonney was submerged she would lose her DF power and all the people's age she changed would change back. but i dont think salt water would undo her age effect jstu like how it wouldnt bring brook's shadow back.
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im thinking if bonney was submerged she would lose her DF power and all the people's age she changed would change back. but i dont think salt water would undo her age effect jstu like how it wouldnt bring brook's shadow back.
actually if ryuuma fell in the water, brook's shadow would come back
meanwhile if moria dies, the shadows do not come back
if her fruit is similar, it would be it is permanent until she reverts it or the person falls in the ocean, or eats a crap load of salt
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meanwhile if moria dies, the shadows do not come back
i thought when moria was defeated by luffy, all the shadows he stole were returned.
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i thought when moria was defeated by luffy, all the shadows he stole were returned.
nope, only reason they did was moria was dumb and sucked them all in his own body
if he left them in zombies, they would have remained there even upon moria's death. only salt can return the shadows, or moria's own command
he clearly states at one point that defeating him would not return the shadows
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interesting. by that logic, if the WG's plan is indeed to use Bonney to bring back the 5 elders, there is no reason to keep her alive after she does her thing.
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I sure hope Sanji plows through many of the Okama masters like the government workers on the sea train. Off topic: God I miss Jerry, how did they get him on the train? I would love Oda to answer than in an SBS.
Though there is no way we are going to see all 99 fighters, I would like some glimpses of them to see if they have any zany variations of their Okama Kempo, again something like Yoga Boxing.
