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    • MagneticMonkey
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      @Zik:

      On another note it'd be funny if Ray's plan isn't that original and Roger did it before and somebody like Sengoku, Garp or even Kong figure it out and attack.

      It would be funny to see a character with a lot of knowledge about the world fail to come with a decent plan after all the years hiding in the dark? Which means you would find it funny if Oda completely fails in his storytelling?
      Yeah… I'd say the probability of this to happen is a bit low.

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        So Luffy is a Sony fanboy now?

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          the main pupose of Luffy's action/ the core information which he want to deliver to his crew is not about what time for assemble or what location of assemble(becuase the location is fixed–--as long as Silvers Rayleigh is still alive).

          the core information is telling them--I,Monkey D Luffy is stand up again and overcome my deeply sadness and desperation.

          my crew,take your time wisely,no need for hastily assemble(as all op readers can see, those eight SHs ,most of them are not in the condition to march and assemble)

          If they assemble this team under their current status,then the consequence that Luffy warned about– those utterly defeat will happen again

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            Why are you writing in bold and red.

            It's obnoxious.

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              @Darkstorm:

              Why are you writing in bold and red.

              It's obnoxious.

              It isn't as strange as Sage's posts…

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                Sage actually bothers to create a title for each of his posts, and he writes them as if they were essays
                I wouldn't call it obnoxious, but I think it is way too formal for a forum like this, lol

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                  @SGRaaize:

                  Sage actually bothers to create a title for each of his posts, and he writes them as if they were essays
                  I wouldn't call it obnoxious, but I think it is way too formal for a forum like this, lol

                  That's why he named himself Sage^^ 😉

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                    Finally read the chapter and FINALLY learned what that news article was all about.

                    I'm excited to see more of the New World. Nami would learn a lot in that sea.

                    I haven't read the previous post so I'm not sure if this was asked already: In the picture in the news article I saw something on his right arm… Was that a tattoo on Luffy's arm?

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                      16 rings = Luffy's 18th birthday?

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                        I feel a theory brewing up about Luffy's 'tattoo'
                        Maybe the message isn't the ringing of the bell, it may be the tattoo and that the WG didn't notice it.
                        SA2Y, right?
                        S = Sabaody
                        A = Archipelago
                        2 = Two
                        Y = Years
                        Am I the only one who thought this?

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                          @zachri:

                          I feel a theory brewing up about Luffy's 'tattoo'
                          Maybe the message isn't the ringing of the bell, it may be the tattoo and that the WG didn't notice it.
                          SA2Y, right?
                          S = Sabaody
                          A = Archipelago
                          2 = Two
                          Y = Years
                          Am I the only one who thought this?

                          Wow, no one has ever thought that!!!

                          😆

                          I keed, I keed (cit.)

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                            @omy785:

                            Wow, no one has ever thought that!!!

                            😆

                            I keed, I keed (cit.)

                            :blink:
                            I'm guessing that was sarcasm 😊
                            Oh well.
                            It's gotta mean something…
                            ... or maybe Oda is tricking us into thinking that?
                            or perhaps he's tricking us into thinking the tattoo means something and then tricks us to think it means nothing only for it to mean EVERYTHING.
                            ...
                            I love a good rant.

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                              @zachri:

                              :blink:
                              I'm guessing that was sarcasm 😊
                              Oh well.
                              It's gotta mean something…
                              ... or maybe Oda is tricking us into thinking that?
                              or perhaps he's tricking us into thinking the tattoo means something and then tricks us to think it means nothing only for it to mean EVERYTHING.
                              ...
                              I love a good rant.

                              Well, as I said: we always figured out what a thing could be, as the news regarding Luffy, and we never got it right. Oda knows us better than we know him…it's definately not SA2Y😁

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                                i think Luffy wants to tell his crew, that he is ready for a new era(a new start with his crew) and says with this action that they should come to him no matter what.
                                also it gives the crew the info that he has somehow overcome the death of ace and that he accepted it(for that silently praying for him).

                                on the other hand the crew know that he wouldn`t do such an action and cause of the newspaprer they know that rayleigh is with him.
                                so to start this new era with his crew he rayleigh wanted that the crew know that he is with LUffy..and so that they need a bit time to come to shabiondy but that they will come foir sure…just some ti8me to being rdy for a new start^^

                                Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

                                IslandElbaf/Raftel/GodValley

                                UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

                                DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop

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                                  @omy785:

                                  it's definately not SA2Y😁

                                  Especially since it's not an A. It only looks that way because it's crossed out.

                                  To be honest it looks more like an O or a S (which could indeed be a referrense to Shabondi Shotō).

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                                    i think itb would be cool , when Luffy has a sign for his crew and so he always remmebers that he has to save them to never loose the last thing he has to protect^^

                                    Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

                                    IslandElbaf/Raftel/GodValley

                                    UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

                                    DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop

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                                      For the tattoo on Luffy's arm, i see it like this : "3D2Y" : "we will not meet in 3 Days like Ray-san told us (see chapter 507), but in 2 Years".

                                      For the 16 rings and sailing in circle around Marinford, i see it as a diversion from the real message (the tattoo). Coming from a wise guy like Ray-san, it's rather a good idea.

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                                        I think it's 3D2Y personally !

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                                          It seems like it's all set for a time skip, the 16 rings must mean that. It can't mean grove 16 or why would ray not leave the verve card there as all of this was idea anyhow. Also I think for luffy to become pirate king at 17 would be abit silly as the grand line is supposed to be unbeatable.

                                          Only thing is that chopper is on his way back so what would he do? What does anyone else think to this idea? Good/bad

                                          And the tatoo says SA2Y for Sabaody Archipelago 2 years time?

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                                            I think it's @&%$…it's a Morse code that only the SH will unterstand.

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                                            • Don Quichotte De Flamingo
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                                              instead of a large timeskip the 16 bell rings should more likely mean 16 days..
                                              (having in mind that luffy is not aware of the fact that those 16 bell rings actually having a meaning for the marines…ending starting new year)

                                              Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

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                                                Nice Chap!.,
                                                The Gorousei want Influential people, and that is Buggy

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                                                  Marco is more influential than Buggy. Buggy could only full pirates in the first half not New World into believing he is a threat. His crew would actually allow him to deal with most non New World Pirates too.

                                                  Becoming a Warlord would guarantee some protection for the WB pirates even if its to some distaste of some of the WBs. I could see a split between like a Marco faction and Jozu like the Sunny pirates.

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                                                    will marco accept the position? despite what WG and Marines did to WB and Ace., Buggy already got the message from WG.,

                                                    "The Winds of the world aren't Heading to the west or east, They're all poiting to me!!!!"
                                                    -Buggy

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                                                      @Don:

                                                      instead of a large timeskip the 16 bell rings should more likely mean 16 days..
                                                      (having in mind that luffy is not aware of the fact that those 16 bell rings actually having a meaning for the marines…ending starting new year)

                                                      It was rays idea not luffys I think

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                                                        Oda said that Strong World was "Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old".

                                                        Combine that with the theories about Luffy's tattoo being (SA/D2Y) and you have a strong case for a two year timeskip where everybody trains.

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                                                          If you assume that OP kinda will end with Luffy being the new PK(or something similiar), i think there are alot of reasons that would make more sense if he reaches that goal not being in his teens.

                                                          So to see 1-3 timeskips in the future sounds more logical(if mangas are logical at all 😁) than unlogical.

                                                          But if we see a timeskip now(before or after the SH reunite) or at later parts well have to see.

                                                          Tho i think it would be a perfect point to timeskip(if well see one at all) before they move along(beeing it seperated or together).

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                                                            Franky… is the best.

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                                                              I like the fact that the brownbeard pirate that Hawkins is sitting atop on is the same that cut the whitebeard flag last time that the brownbeard pirates appeared. Odas consistency to draw the same characters even if they are fodder x 1000 is awesome. The same happened last week in chapter 593 when he drew the coffee monkeys, and having the same background coffee monkeys as before even when nearly 100 chapters were between their appearance.

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                                                                i just see a time skip to be weird.

                                                                one even if not luffy's intention, a lot of people see what he did as him claiming this era his and to then go into hiding for a couple years seems like wtf

                                                                number two, why the need to do something so extravagant all just to tell your crew to NOT come back for a couple years? or hell 16 days. I mean he has no clue where they are, why set a time to meet up again when they might not be able to make it. i mean what if message is we leave for new world 16 days as many say. what happens if brook or zoro or someone isn't there? they just sit at shabondy and wait?

                                                                the only logical thing is some sort of message that says i'm hiding somewhere and we meet up there. the strawhats all manage to get back to the sunny at random times, and have shakky to tell them where to go from there. which seems to be the safe haven of amazon lily since hancock still has her title.
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                                                                I like the fact that the brownbeard pirate that Hawkins is sitting atop on is the same that cut the whitebeard flag last time that the brownbeard pirates appeared. Odas consistency to draw the same characters even if they are fodder x 1000 is awesome. The same happened last week in chapter 593 when he drew the coffee monkeys, and having the same background coffee monkeys as before even when nearly 100 chapters were between their appearance.

                                                                i dont' get why mangaka wouldn't keep same fodder people. i mean it takes me less than a minute to grab the page that has shown brownbeard and his crew or fodder. so quickly grab that and then redraw them. i don't give oda credit when no credit is deserved. i just bash other authors for being stupid and lazy

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                                                                  This was a great chapter! I never expected for Garp and Sengoku to resign from their positions. Also, it was great seeing the some of the Supernovas too. And it was cool seeing some the islands of the New World. Also, very interesting on Coby having Haki. Wonder what type of Haki he has. Also, Luffy's message was very interesting with the ringing of the bell. I wonder what it means. Anyways, my prediction for the next chapter is that we might see more of the Supernovas and the New World. And I think we see more of what's going on with Luffy, etc.

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                                                                    anyone else like not care about an arc at fishman island anymore.

                                                                    i just want us to have a fun time there and then move on. the islands shown in new world look just too damn interesting, i want to get to this exciting new world

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                                                                      i want to see more ppl like caimie ,,

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                                                                          I can't see a time skip happening since Kuma is at there ship right now…what? are you people expecting him to just sit there and wait for 2 whole years!?

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                                                                            Kong commands all the WG forces.
                                                                            The marines, the police, the CP9, Schichibukai

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                                                                              My guess would be that Luffy's new tattoo says:

                                                                              S with an X as tribute to Sabo
                                                                              A with an X as tribute to Ace
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                                                                              Ace's tattoo had his name in it with a crossed out S, for Sabo. If Luffy were to "continue this tribute" he might just put his name in as well, Monkey D. Luffy.

                                                                              Saru = Monkey

                                                                              This is just a theory of course, but I think it works.

                                                                              (Btw I'm aware it doesn't LOOK like saru but until we know what it really says I'm sticking to it.)

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                                                                                My guess would be that Luffy's new tattoo says:

                                                                                S with an X as tribute to Sabo
                                                                                A with an X as tribute to Ace
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                                                                                Ace's tattoo had his name in it with a crossed out S, for Sabo. If Luffy were to "continue this tribute" he might just put his name in as well, Monkey D. Luffy.

                                                                                Saru = Monkey

                                                                                This is just a theory of course, but I think it works.

                                                                                (Btw I'm aware it doesn't LOOK like saru but until we know what it really says I'm sticking to it.)

                                                                                only thing wrong with these crossed out letter theories, is that ASCE, in the end still spelt ACE

                                                                                Your idea ends up spelling RU

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                                                                                  @Sammsy:

                                                                                  i just see a time skip to be weird.

                                                                                  one even if not luffy's intention, a lot of people see what he did as him claiming this era his and to then go into hiding for a couple years seems like wtf

                                                                                  number two, why the need to do something so extravagant all just to tell your crew to NOT come back for a couple years? or hell 16 days. I mean he has no clue where they are, why set a time to meet up again when they might not be able to make it. i mean what if message is we leave for new world 16 days as many say. what happens if brook or zoro or someone isn't there? they just sit at shabondy and wait?

                                                                                  he knows that all of his crew have been sent somwhere to get stronger. Ray told luffy about what kuma did and that it was part of a plan to help them.

                                                                                  That's why I think there is going to be a timeskip it's all set and kuma is guarding sunny till the SH's come back

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                                                                                    @Sammsy:

                                                                                    only thing wrong with these crossed out letter theories, is that ASCE, in the end still spelt ACE

                                                                                    Your idea ends up spelling RU

                                                                                    RU, for Rufi? lol You have me stumped with that one. XD

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                                                                                      The message has to be a timestamp.

                                                                                      What It's better to the plot that the crew gets there in random times, or all of them arriving the same day?

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                                                                                        This chapter was a huge tease. So much going on… so much I do not understand.

                                                                                        Favorite things about it though was Franky all blown up, and seeing Bege again. Also.. any ideas what was happening to him? I am really confused..

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                                                                                        The message has to be a timestamp.

                                                                                        What It's better to the plot that the crew gets there in random times, or all of them arriving the same day?

                                                                                        I think the plan has them all meet wherever they are going on the same date.

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                                                                                          The message has to be a timestamp.

                                                                                          What It's better to the plot that the crew gets there in random times, or all of them arriving the same day?

                                                                                          It would be funny if they all showed up at the exact same day, even more so the same minute, but considering how the plot is going right now I think they will show up seprately.

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                                                                                            You know, after seeing all the stuff happening in this chapter, I'm convinced that Oda has been holding back. The first half of the GL was just a warm up and now Oda's really going to unleash his imagination.

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                                                                                              Yes, it was always funny how everyone in East Blue spoke of the Grand Line as this nigh-uninhabitable swath of sea that only the most dedicated/insane could survive on, yet when we actually got there it was actually…pretty tame and mundane, outside of a few weather oddities and attempted coups.

                                                                                              ~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.

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                                                                                                In my oppinion its stupid to think they are supposed to meet after 16 days, because the first thing rayleigh said was " you are planning on gathering… just to repeat everything all over again?", i dont think his plan as to wait just 16 days or something like 1 week more, doesnt make that much sense, he cant learn anything in that time i think and maybe wont be fully recovered... he would have ALL the trouble of going there just to say for him to wait 2 weeks?

                                                                                                The Bell was supposedto send a message to the world and the most imporant for the strawhats, no i think the tatoo is something, they new would have a lot of journalists in there and they need to have a purpose, not just show, msile for the camera and leave otherwise the marines would think he was up to something, the bell thing as a distraction, but maybe not only a distraction

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                                                                                                  Yes, it was always funny how everyone in East Blue spoke of the Grand Line as this nigh-uninhabitable swath of sea that only the most dedicated/insane could survive on, yet when we actually got there it was actually…pretty tame and mundane, outside of a few weather oddities and attempted coups.

                                                                                                  Aren't all the people who claimed that a bunch of weaklings?

                                                                                                  Also most of the islands and towns have some huge problems with them. Compared to easy blue (mostly peaceful islands with few problems) it's pretty insane. Islands where they have racist auctions. Places where the whole Island is at war. Sky Islands where a god tries to kill anyone he pleases.

                                                                                                  Thats pretty insane methinks

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                                                                                                    I can't see a time skip happening since Kuma is at there ship right now…what? are you people expecting him to just sit there and wait for 2 whole years!?

                                                                                                    Kuma is now a robot and yes depending on if Vegapunk is working for the revolutionaries he could sit there and wait protecting the ship for the strawhats.

                                                                                                    Remember he has planned all of this so far I doubt if he sent them all away he would just let the ship be taken

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                                                                                                      Why has no one even suggested Kizaru for Fleet Admiral? He seems to be a fine balance between Ao Kiji & Akainu. I think he'd be a fine choice for the role.

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                                                                                                        Aren't all the people who claimed that a bunch of weaklings?

                                                                                                        Also most of the islands and towns have some huge problems with them. Compared to easy blue (mostly peaceful islands with few problems) it's pretty insane. Islands where they have racist auctions. Places where the whole Island is at war. Sky Islands where a god tries to kill anyone he pleases.

                                                                                                        Thats pretty insane methinks

                                                                                                        After defeating Crocodile, the GL became conquerable for the SH. They saved a kingdom from a tyrannical shichibukai ffs.

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