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      Thank you 🆒

      The government doesn't send personal messages when they raise someone's bounty. That sort of thing is simply reported in the news. They do, however, send out "personal invitiations" to join the royal shichibukai, which it looks like Buggy got.

      Even if the Government knows he's not powerful, that's not really that important. He is seen as powerful by everyone (except for the select few who know his true strength), not just "some pirates." The WG can use his stature to both strike fear into other pirates who may think of opposing the government and to fill a vacant spot in a much needed position for the government.

      Good job with your theory. While we really never know what Oda is going to do, an 'attack' on AL doesn't seem too crazy if you think about it. We'll have to wait a few more days to see what actually happened!

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        The WG can use his stature to both strike fear into other pirates who may think of opposing the government and to fill a vacant spot in a much needed position for the government.

        Not saying that the Carrier Bat is not an invitation, but I have to disagree with this point. Even the civilians watching the war from SA could see Buggy for the weak buffoon that he is, and as a result, cried out "Not you again!" when the transmission resumed and he was still prancing around like an idiot.
        If the helpless masses aren't impressed, then I don't think other pirates would be.

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          They probably only want him as a warlord cause he's got an army of loyal prisoners from Impel Down behind him. That be enough to scare any newbie pirate.

          Originally Posted by KzTxL7

          I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

          You won this week Fairy Tail.

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            Perhaps Buggy's letter is an attempt to coerce him into betraying Luffy? Buggy looked like an ally during the war–Luffy would never have escaped without his help. Maybe they are reasoning that he may be aware of where Luffy is now, and as weak as he is, he can be scared into submission.

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              Perhaps Buggy's letter is an attempt to coerce him into betraying Luffy? Buggy looked like an ally during the war–Luffy would never have escaped without his help. Maybe they are reasoning that he may be aware of where Luffy is now, and as weak as he is, he can be scared into submission.

              Do you HONESTLY believe that buggy could trick luffy? Luffy doesn't trust buggy, he just uses him.

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                If Buggy becomes a Shichibukai, Mr.3 will be the only guy in the OP world who has been the underling of two different Shichis. :ninja:

                since when was mr.3 an underling of buggy?

                Sabo is ALIVE and has a Zoan DF!

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                  I second the above motion.
                  Mr. 3 is more like an ally or partner to Buggy at best. Sort of like Alvida. They just teamed up.

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                    Do you HONESTLY believe that buggy could trick luffy? Luffy doesn't trust buggy, he just uses him.

                    Luffy seemed easy to forgive Buggy and Mr. 3 in Impel Down, even with all their attempts at leaving him behind. Luffy was like "thanks anyway" or "alright, you're alive".

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                      yep .

                      How do we know that again?

                      (This is when someone needs to update the One Piece timeline thread. Or create a new one.)

                      You come at the king, you best not miss.

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                        How do we know that again?

                        (This is when someone needs to update the One Piece timeline thread. Or create a new one.)

                        The most recent chapter. Crocodile said so.
                        http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/18

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                          Not saying that the Carrier Bat is not an invitation, but I have to disagree with this point. Even the civilians watching the war from SA could see Buggy for the weak buffoon that he is, and as a result, cried out "Not you again!" when the transmission resumed and he was still prancing around like an idiot.
                          If the helpless masses aren't impressed, then I don't think other pirates would be.

                          I am almost entirely sure that the masses were referring to Buggy interrupting something major going on in the war. When Whitebeard was shown to have betrayed his comrades, the camera went back on to show Buggy. The crowd's reaction had nothing to do with how impressed with him they were or how powerful they thought he was and everything to do with the fact that they simply didn't want to see him because he was distracting them from crucial points of the battle.

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                            The most recent chapter. Crocodile said so.
                            http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/18

                            I wonder what happened in that time.

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                              The most recent chapter. Crocodile said so.
                              http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/18

                              Ah. I'm an idiot.

                              So, he has one week left before he's 100%? But people wouldn't know what he would be doing at AL because that island is in the middle of bumblefuck nowhere.

                              Hmm…I have no clue what's going to happen next. None.

                              You come at the king, you best not miss.

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                                Sure, Buggy could strike some fear into some pirates, but the WG would surely see his fall as inevitable the second he gets challenged by anyone even halfway competent - further shaming the Shichibukai; which has concerned them in the past.
                                I'm not saying it's not an invitation, just that I dont think it would be a smart move on the part of the WG

                                Ever watched One Piece on acid? it's pretty sweet.

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                                  For those of you who missed my take, I'll repost it

                                  ! What was the "news" about Luffy all those characters kept reading about? Here's what we know.
                                  ! FACTS:
                                  ! 1. It was Rayleigh's "plan" that would allow Luffy access to SA without as much of a risk to himself and his crew. The initial interpretation of this proposal was simply that Luffy had to get stronger. But there are other options (or combinations of options).
                                  ! 2. The world knowing about it (through the "news") is a part of the plan (we find this out from the revolutionaries + Crocodile). In other words, Rayleigh was counting on the fact that this huge "incident" would be picked up by the newspapers.
                                  ! 3. Chopper's reaction tells us it's something outrageous, and his words can be translated as either "why again!!?" or "what now!!?"
                                  ! 4. Sanji's reaction is that of surprise.
                                  ! 5. Robin's reaction is that of amusement.
                                  ! 6. A revolutionary described it as a "big incident."
                                  ! 7. Iva-san's reaction was that of surprise and said that Luffy's actions reminded him of Dragon's antics.
                                  ! 8. Vivi asked, "is it for fashion? no it can't be… it's Luffy after all"
                                  ! 9. Croc's reaction to it was "Right after getting their lives saved...just what are these idiots thinking? They must be planning something. If not, they've gone mad."
                                  ! 10. Daz bones reaction: "strawboy is wounded. Do wounds disappear that easily?"
                                  ! Oda did a great job of telling us a lot whilst telling us nothing at all.
                                  ! ANALYSIS:
                                  ! From Crocodile's and Daz's reactions (9 & 10), we can conclude that whatever Luffy was reported doing (or having done) in the paper was extremely dangerous and would require a healthy Luffy. We know that it has been 3 weeks since the WB war ended and one week since we last saw Luffy with Rayleigh. That means they have had 1 week to carry out their "plan." We know that Trafalgar Law told Rayleigh that Luffy would have to stay put for another two weeks in order to heal. This leaves us with two options (that I can think of):
                                  ! 1. Luffy did in fact do something outrageously dangerous, and he healed in half the time,
                                  ! or
                                  ! 2. Luffy has not done anything outrageously dangerous, but it was just reported that he did.
                                  ! Fact #2, along with Law's warning about Luffy's health, leads me to believe that analysis option #2 is more likely.
                                  ! But whichever one it is, the purpose is ultimately the same: to allow Luffy an opportunity to meet up with his crew and continue on his journey without having to go through the same problems he and his crew encountered on SA (namely admirals, Pacifista, general marine/WG involvement). Remember, the world government and marines know what happened to the strawhats – that they were sent flying by Kuma to distant lands (even if they don't know specifically what lands they were). This was part of (if not entirely) the reason why Kuma was altered by Dr. Vegapunk in the first place. That being said, the WG and marines know that the Thousand Sunny is harbored on SA, and they may be waiting for Luffy and his crew to return to their ship unless….
                                  ! Luffy is off (or at least reported to be) causing mayhem to some WG island that would cause the WG to shift its attention away from SA and towards another island or area on the seas. This is also supported by Iva's statement (7) about the similarities to Dragon, who no doubt constantly fought against (and continues to fight against) the WG. This is also supported by the revolutionary, who called what Luffy has been reported as doing a "big incident" (6).
                                  ! THEORY:
                                  ! AL is technically a government-allied island, as it it home to the royal shichibukai, Boa Hancock. I believe that it was reported in the news that Luffy declared an attack on Kuja Island and its princess Hebihime. This is not to say that it was announced Luffy necessarily "took over" the island, but instead that he was launching a powerful attack with the help of Jimbei and other allies. Thus, it would not seem unreasonable or make Hancock look weak if she called out to the WG for help/backup against the powerful enemies. An attack on Boa and her island is technically a call to war against the WG and marines. This would explain a number of comments and reactions from people we've seen (3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10).
                                  ! * It would explain #3 because it is an outrageous thing to do, and technically it would be waging war against the WG "again" and targeting another shichibukai "again."
                                  ! * It would explain #4 because it is surprising.
                                  ! * It would explain #6 because it is a big incident.
                                  ! * It explains #7 because Iva would be surprised and such an action would remind him of Dragon, who likes to fight against the WG.
                                  ! * It explains #9 because, as Crocodile seems to think, whatever it is Luffy was reported as doing is something really stupid for a rookie like him. Declaring war against a WG island would fit that bill.
                                  ! * And it would explain #10 because, like #9, Luffy would need to be healthy or at least not "wounded" to be in a position to actually make such an action possible.
                                  ! That leaves Robin and Vivi.
                                  ! Robin could be amused for any number of reasons. She may think the picture of Luffy is funny. I personally think that she is amused because threatening an entire island controlled by a shichibukai with deep connections to the WG is such a strange thing to do (I can imagine it accompanied by a picture of Luffy with a really serious face), and it sort of brings back those weird memories of her ridiculous captain.
                                  ! As for Vivi, I think people are reading too much into this. I don't think her reaction is as important to the content of the article as some of the other reactions. But her reaction could be based on a couple of things. It could be something as simple as the photo of Luffy having him wearing some new AL clothes (possibly with frills?). But here's what I honestly think: Vivi's words can be interpreted as pondering whether Luffy's actions were based on "fashion," "style," or general outward appearances. But then she says to herself "no it can't be, it's Luffy after all." Vivi knows Luffy, and Luffy usually never does anything for purposes of looks, fashion, style, or any form of outward appearance; that's just not the kind of man he is. But her facial expression and confusion belie what she's saying to herself; it's as if she can't believe what she's reading and is attempting to convince herself that it is something Luffy would do and not simply something for style or appearance's sake.
                                  ! But of course it is for appearance's sake, as it will give Luffy time to reach SA without the government's tail and with limited interference. He may already be near or approaching SA with Jimbei (and Rayleigh?) since it's been a whole week. Meanwhile, the government is notified of strawhat's (and his allies') attack on Kuja kingdom (with a pretend photo–possibly funny/stylish--taken as evidence). Therefore, the government disregards SA as the place where the strawhats will be and focuses on Kuja Kingdom. By the time marine reinforcements arrive, Boa will simply claim that Luffy and company escaped by stealing a ship after causing massive damage and stealing some treasure. Of course, she will tell the government they went in a direction away from SA. This will ensure Boa keeps her title as Shichibukai as well, since she fought off Luffy.
                                  ! The strongest argument I have seen against this is that Sengoku is an extremely intelligent commander of his forces, and he wouldn't send all the marines to Kuja island. Of course, I don't mean to say that he will do anything of the sort – only that Luffy's "incident" will shift the focus of the world government's attention from SA to AL, giving Luffy just enough time and leeway to enter SA, meet up with his crew, and escape from SA unscathed. Nor do I think that Sengoku won't send backup to SA just in case Luffy happens to show up. Hence why the new "mindless" Bartholomew Kuma has shown himself on SA as we speak.
                                  ! Obviously, Oda could pretty much do anything, but currently I believe this to be the likeliest scenario.
                                  ! Thoughts?

                                  One thing that debunks your theory. Cobra read the newspaper and still think Luffy's a good pirate. Although we don't know his views yet, I don't think that if Cobra read an article about Luffy attacking an island and still think Luffy's a good person.

                                  And Enies Lobby is different. Luffy went to save Robin. Unless the paper has a good reason, Luffy would just be terrorizing an island of the government and it's innocent citizens, even if the island is home to Hancock.

                                  And I'm responding here because I don't think that this needed it's own thread. It's a good theory, but doesn't deserve it's own thread.

                                  Welcome to the forums by the way.

                                  Originally Posted by Nightwing

                                  Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?

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                                    maybe his post as a shichibukai will allow buggy to become stronger because of his fights with some major pirates.

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                                      Watch the letter say something else none of us even dreamed of. Like Buggy is really the son of Moria or something.

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                                        If Buggy becomes a Shichibukai, Mr.3 will be the only guy in the OP world who has been the underling of two different Shichis. :ninja:

                                        Yeah but Luffy is the only guy known to ever bite 2 war lords. Thats gotta count for something!

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                                          This chapter is quite simple.
                                          1. Luffy did something that probably overshadowed the War that happened a few weeks ago.
                                          2. Buggy is given the chance to be a Shichibukai.

                                          I am wagering my bet on Luffy doing either of the following:
                                          i) Getting married to Boa Hancock.
                                          ii) Attacking marineford again. (this is suicide, I know, but hey, what else to get the attention of the world?)
                                          iii) Beat another shichibukai to a pulp. Jinbei being the so-called "victim". I doubt the WG had time to tell everyone that Jinbei has renounced his Shichibukai status. If not Jinbei, then Boa Hancock is the "victim" then.

                                          Other than that, I don't see anything more serious. Taking out a whole armada of Marine ships isn't that spectacular since this probably happened alot in the new world. and probably not a good idea to tell the world about losing an armada to some pirates.

                                          I lean towards Luffy and Boa Hancock tying the knot. As Robin's, Vivi's and Sanji's reaction is just that. Iva's reaction by saying it reminds him of Dragon's own story which would mean 2 things, 1. Getting an army ready to take on the world or 2. Getting married out of no where (hence, getting Luffy).

                                          Or something like that…

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                                            This chapter is quite simple.
                                            1. Luffy did something that probably overshadowed the War that happened a few weeks ago.
                                            2. Buggy is given the chance to be a Shichibukai.

                                            I am wagering my bet on Luffy doing either of the following:
                                            i) Getting married to Boa Hancock.
                                            ii) Attacking marineford again. (this is suicide, I know, but hey, what else to get the attention of the world?)
                                            iii) Beat another shichibukai to a pulp. Jinbei being the so-called "victim". I doubt the WG had time to tell everyone that Jinbei has renounced his Shichibukai status. If not Jinbei, then Boa Hancock is the "victim" then.

                                            Other than that, I don't see anything more serious. Taking out a whole armada of Marine ships isn't that spectacular since this probably happened alot in the new world. and probably not a good idea to tell the world about losing an armada to some pirates.

                                            I lean towards Luffy and Boa Hancock tying the knot. As Robin's, Vivi's and Sanji's reaction is just that. Iva's reaction by saying it reminds him of Dragon's own story which would mean 2 things, 1. Getting an army ready to take on the world or 2. Getting married out of no where (hence, getting Luffy).

                                            Or something like that…

                                            Illogical….......

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                                              may be he married Hancock…

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                                                may be he married Hancock…

                                                That'd just make AL a target for the WG and Luffy doesn't have the might to take on a full blown assault let alone protect AL with his name alone. He's no WB yet.

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                                                The government doesn't send personal messages when they raise someone's bounty. That sort of thing is simply reported in the news. They do, however, send out "personal invitiations" to join the royal shichibukai, which it looks like Buggy got.

                                                Even if the Government knows he's not powerful, that's not really that important. He is seen as powerful by everyone (except for the select few who know his true strength), not just "some pirates." The WG can use his stature to both strike fear into other pirates who may think of opposing the government and to fill a vacant spot in a much needed position for the government.

                                                http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=1743441#post1743441

                                                Same thing i been saying before. I'm sure you'll find a lot of people like to make an opinion post without reading arguments or thinking about what they are saying =/

                                                To remind everyone – These are the core duties of a Shichibukai and Buggy fulfills them. He can easily fulfill the role Croc did at the starting sections of the grandline.

                                                ! http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Shichibukai
                                                ! They do not offer open opposition to the rule of the World Government, but are not guaranteed to follow its orders either. They are only allowed to attack other pirates and must also pay the Government a tenth of their loot,[2] though this rule is not usually followed at the very least. Each member of the Shichibukai must also have strong intimidation skills and a fearsome representation to put off others becoming a pirate and make them fear them.[2][3] In addition, given the dialogue between Bartholomew Kuma and the Gorousei, it can be assumed that a member of the Shichibukai can not be defeated, or have widespread knowledge of a said defeat (or at least by rookies who are gaining influence such as the case of Luffy who has been able to defeat Gecko Moria and Crocodile).

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                                                    Damn, all these theories of Luffy marrying Hancock, Luffy making AL his territory, Luffy with wings..

                                                    Can't we all agree that Luffy pissing on Sengoku's lawn is a more plausible theory?

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                                                      I think I know what happend

                                                      [hide]Luffy kidnapped Pwngoat[/hide]

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                                                        The WG know how weak buggy is., but the world doesn't. He will be used as a fear tool. plus he got tons of high bounty ex-cons from impel., not to mention he escapes and lead_(world presume or WG presumed)_ the plot from Impel Down..

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                                                          This thread is making apforums look stupid..what idiotic theories, damn, NONE of them make sense AT ALL.

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                                                            This thread is making apforums look stupid..what idiotic theories, damn, NONE of them make sense AT ALL.

                                                            QFT

                                                            Dunno what happened here…

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                                                              You know what? If a theory does not make sense and seems insane and completely impossible, tell us exactly why instead of crying, mocking and whining.

                                                              Tell us why with facts, your own deductions and maybe even opinions. Please, anything but "You are stupid" -level arguments.

                                                              YOU are what happened.

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                                                                You people do realize that the most important clue is Croc's line, right ?

                                                                "Right after getting their lives saved. Just what are these idiots thinking ?"

                                                                From Croc's point of view, he clearly is talking about Luffy and Jimbei.

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                                                                  @Tellon:

                                                                  You know what? If a theory does not make sense and seems insane and completely impossible, tell us exactly why instead of crying, mocking and whining.

                                                                  Tell us why with facts, your own deductions and maybe even opinions. Please, anything but "You are stupid" -level arguments.

                                                                  YOU are what happened.

                                                                  Already done since the theories started^^

                                                                  Why repeating it once again all the time^^

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                                                                  You people do realize that the most important clue is Croc's line, right ?

                                                                  "Right after getting their lives saved. Just what are these idiots thinking ?"

                                                                  From Croc's point of view, he clearly is talking about Luffy and Jimbei.

                                                                  Yeah I pointed it out already… If it would have to do with a marriage with Boa why mention Jinbei instead of her? And somehow it the incident was risky and a marriage isn't a risk to speak like that^^

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                                                                    Ok, I'm positive that Luffy went to the secret cave in AL where time behaves very funny: 1 hour inside the cave is equivalent to 1 month outside. But to stay there, they need to feed it with Rayleigh's spiritual energy. Rayleigh can only sustain for (three, I mean) five days, and in that duration Luffy must learn the "complete" haoshoku haki from the "devil fruit manifestation" inside him. Then, on the sixth day, he did something outrageous like haoshoku-ing the hell out of Akainu.

                                                                    I am very original, ain't I?

                                                                    Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!

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                                                                      Ok, I'm positive that Luffy went to the secret cave in AL where time behaves very funny: 1 hour inside the cave is equivalent to 1 month outside. But to stay there, they need to feed it with Rayleigh's spiritual energy. Rayleigh can only sustain for (three, I mean) five days, and in that duration Luffy must learn the "complete" haoshoku haki from the "devil fruit manifestation" inside him. Then, on the sixth day, he did something outrageous like haoshoku-ing the hell out of Akainu.

                                                                      I am very original, ain't I?

                                                                      It is more likely then a marriage which would let Croc saying something like that

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                                                                        This thread is making apforums look stupid..what idiotic theories, damn, NONE of them make sense AT ALL.

                                                                        THIS thread ?!

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                                                                        Yeah I pointed it out already… If it would have to do with a marriage with Boa why mention Jinbei instead of her? And somehow it the incident was risky and a marriage isn't a risk to speak like that^^

                                                                        Clearly, Luffy married Jinbei.

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                                                                          THIS thread ?!

                                                                          Clearly, Luffy married Jinbei.

                                                                          Yeah even that is more possible seeing Luffy is more amazed of him than about Boa xD

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                                                                            This thread is making apforums look stupid..what idiotic theories, damn, NONE of them make sense AT ALL.

                                                                            Which is kind of hilarious in hindsight since its making the '304 server drop' during the spoiler upload look like a godsend now.

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                                                                              @Tellon:

                                                                              You know what? If a theory does not make sense and seems insane and completely impossible, tell us exactly why instead of crying, mocking and whining.

                                                                              Tell us why with facts, your own deductions and maybe even opinions. Please, anything but "You are stupid" -level arguments.

                                                                              YOU are what happened.

                                                                              exactly…

                                                                              And really, if you say oh we did that already in pages farther back

                                                                              then you really have nothing else to add, so why do the crying mocking and whining...if a theory is really wrong then let it be buried by not quoting it again and again and calling it stupid, insulting the op etc. . .

                                                                              you guys have been doing that for many pages. . .

                                                                              Did it work the first Time?

                                                                              no...

                                                                              Why do you think It will work again?

                                                                              most of the hate is coming from the fact that those flaming dont WANT some of those theories to be true, so they flame kick and scream out of a pure knee jerk emotional reaction. Instead of say. . .realizing that the discussion is over and just ignoring it...I cant imagine a week of this thread(untill the next chapter comes out)

                                                                              Now for what I think, well I dont think Luffy and Boa are getting married but there are some good arguments for it BUT I think that Oda will throw something out of left field that will make all of us piss our pants, as he usually does with cliffhangers and I bet that no one here will have predicted it. (remember the Duval thing? haha)

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                                                                                Whatever Luffy did, Buggy approves… It's going to be FLASHY!

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                                                                                  I like the theory that he drew his (crappy) Jolly Roger on the Gates of Justice. It's an incredibly idiotic thing to do, but it would be quite funny.

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                                                                                    I like the theory that he drew his (crappy) Jolly Roger on the Gates of Justice. It's an incredibly idiotic thing to do, but it would be quite funny.

                                                                                    I would lying on the floor and never stop laughing xD

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                                                                                      The theory of Luffy marrying Hancock is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen on this forum. All you little LuffyxHancock fanboys need to stfu, cause it's obviously never going to happen.

                                                                                      First of all it is illogical to the plot line on so many levels, and second of all if it happened Oda would be pulling a Bleach (Random bs that was made up on the spot) which he never does, cause he actually knows how to write a good manga. And no I do not know the meaning of a run-on sentence.

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                                                                                        The theory of Luffy marrying Hancock is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen on this forum. All you little LuffyxHancock fanboys need to stfu, cause it's obviously never going to happen.

                                                                                        First of all it is illogical to the plot line on so many levels, and second of all if it happened Oda would be pulling a Bleach (Random bs that was made up on the spot) which he never does, cause he actually knows how to write a good manga. And no I do not know the meaning of a run-on sentence.

                                                                                        3. That wouldn't cause that kind o reactions from the people and wouldn't let Croc talking about Jinbei and Luffy

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                                                                                          @Rubber:

                                                                                          Do you HONESTLY believe that buggy could trick luffy? Luffy doesn't trust buggy, he just uses him.

                                                                                          I simply offered an alternative. I read the post suggesting that it might not be an invite (was that Brennen and Urouge? Forget…) Then I tried to put myself in the WG's shoes, based on the information we as readers have about what they know, and make a suggestion that was different from an invite to be a Shichibukai. (And to be clear--of course he wouldn't succeed--if it did follow this line instead of a shichi invite, then the purpose would be two fold--to keep him near Luffy in the story, and to be a comedic foil. He would fail, but something would happen that would make him still look good for some reason.)

                                                                                          Personally? I think it was an invite, because it follows the comedic line that Oda has had running for Buggy since ID, and his squeak through by a hair with nothing but dumb luck making him look like something he's not has potential to be a funny running gag into the next half of the Manga. It just seems very Oda to me. But none of us really know, and it's fun to speculate, and there are other possibilites out there, so I thought I'd throw it out there. It's called discussing the chapter--which is what this thread is for, right? 😄

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                                                                                          I am almost entirely sure that the masses were referring to Buggy interrupting something major going on in the war. When Whitebeard was shown to have betrayed his comrades, the camera went back on to show Buggy. The crowd's reaction had nothing to do with how impressed with him they were or how powerful they thought he was and everything to do with the fact that they simply didn't want to see him because he was distracting them from crucial points of the battle.

                                                                                          Yes I agree with this. And to further discuss the idea of Buggy getting an invite to be a Shichi–The WG made it very clear they thought they'd underestimated Buggy when they called the navy ship the ID prisoners were on. I realize that Buggy wasn't great during the war, but he was there, always someplace crutial at just the right (wrong?) moment, he survived, and he "saved" Luffy and Jimbei, then went off with Shanks. I don't see how he could look all that bad to them as a potential candidate.

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                                                                                          I wonder what happened in that time.

                                                                                          As do we all. That is basically what this entire thread is about, really. Cannot wait to find out, though. 😁

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                                                                                            Seriously, I expect Buggy to make it to Raftel or wherever just in time to participate in the series's last, mega-huge arc finale through sheer dumb luck.

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                                                                                              The theory of Luffy marrying Hancock is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen on this forum.

                                                                                              Out of all things, something that COULD actually happen (and I'm not a Hancock fanboy at all), you choose that as the most idiotic thing you've ever read? Have you been here for like five minutes or something? Just a couple weeks ago, people thought Zoro was Sabo.

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                                                                                                Out of all things, something that COULD actually happen (and I'm not a Hancock fanboy at all), you choose that as the most idiotic thing you've ever read? Have you been here for like five minutes or something? Just a couple weeks ago, people thought Zoro was Sabo.

                                                                                                He was Zoro and Law …to be correct^^

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                                                                                                  @DancingFlamingos:

                                                                                                  The theory of Luffy marrying Hancock is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen on this forum.

                                                                                                  Never heard of the Cerberus Fruit, have you?

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                                                                                                    @Cyan:

                                                                                                    Never heard of the Cerberus Fruit, have you?

                                                                                                    Which a lot of people believe. Look at NF xD

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                                                                                                      I still can't believe that anyone believed Akainu wouldn't have the Magma fruit. Wasn't it already blatantly obvious when Kizaru was revealed to have the Light Fruit?

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                                                                                                        Guys, Luffy marrying Hancock is totally possible. It would be just as a way to repay Hancock for Luffy but it's still within reason.
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                                                                                                        I still can't believe that anyone believed Akainu wouldn't have the Magma fruit. Wasn't it already blatantly obvious when Kizaru was revealed to have the Light Fruit?

                                                                                                        Blood was always plausible given his creed.

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