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      i was super wrong about the newspaper in last chapter, now i can not wait to see what Luffy has done to make the newspaper again. EXCITED to the MAXIMUM! ahahaha

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        http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/20
        we have confirmation that Moria is alive he is working as the new WG post office :ninja:

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          Really liked the chapter. Damn Oda for teasing us with what Luffy has done!

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            maybe luffy just stole the goat (well the goat let him do that of course)

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              @Haros:

              http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/20
              we have confirmation that Moria is alive he is working as the new WG post office :ninja:

              Yeah, wtf was with the WG sending a bat to deliver the newspaper? Unless the letter is from Moria… SHOCK!!

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                As Mr1 / Crocodile implied, or Luffy is stupid or he is planning something.
                And what he did is supposed to allow him get back on Shabondi without getting into troubles… So absolutely not a marriage.

                Shit, we all wanted to see more of the crew, and now that we have more of the crew, we want to know about Luffy ! Dammit !

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                  Yeah, wtf was with the WG sending a bat to deliver the newspaper? Unless the letter is from Moria… SHOCK!!

                  its not a news paper its a letter.

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                    Hell of a chapter this week!

                    Damn, man. A new bat-shit crazy stunt, Luffy? So soon!? I'm so excited to see what has everyone's panties in a bunch, and I don't think it'll be anything to do with marrying Hancock. I kind of like the theory of him claiming Amazon Lily or somewhere else his territory, but something tells me that's not the case either… Only time will tell, I suppose. I'm sure that when all is said and done it'll be, in true Luffy fashion, totally epic. Can not wait.

                    I'm extremely intrigued with the Kuma situation as well. Dragon knows something that we don't, and it's really bugging me that Oda hasn't let us in on it. Either way, I'm 100% certain that Shakky and everyone aboard Sunny is completely safe. I was really happy to see that Robin didn't bother with meeting Dragon and just wanted to get back to her crew. And on that note; Sanji's interaction with Ivankov was priceless. I love that he, like Zoro, is willing to swim back to Sabaody. He's so cool! The loyalty the Strawhats all have toward each other is just wonderful. They really are a family.

                    Buggy... Oh, Buggy. I want him to be a Warlord SO badly! It would be so great for something like that to happen. That way, he'll have crazy 'street cred' AND all of his shenanigans will be overlooked by the World Government. As always, he'll be in the shit but come out smelling like a rose.

                    As for the whole 'fashion' thing, mrkaizoku's sig says it all:

                    I'm with you, piratesan! HAKI BEARD AND BITCHIN' SHADES FOR THE WIN! GO LUFFY!!!

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                      I daresay that's the best face Crocodile's ever made.

                      Not sure what to think of shichibukai!Buggy..

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                        @Jejune:

                        I daresay that's the best face Crocodile's ever made.

                        Not sure what to think of shichibukai!Buggy..

                        at least he'll have an army that isn't allergic to table shakers.

                        Side Note –-

                        I hope the "stylish" question is regarding these clothes 😮

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                          rufy has roasted and ated sengoku's goat. then he climbed the red line and put the goat head in some of celestial dragon's bed.

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                            just a weird prediction of mine…

                            after they (SH crew) read the news, they will eventually meet at the meeting point (in a short time) but they will be teach how to use Haki before they will going to depart to new world...

                            chopper, nami, franky is on the way already..
                            luffy, zoro, sanji, might delayed for some improvement of their skills..
                            [luffy = king's haki with the aide of hancock & rayleigh;
                            zoro = swordmanship he needs to defeat first the beast by himself;
                            sanji = foot technique with the aide of okamas]

                            will be delayed also…
                            ussop as well coz he needs to slim up a bit 😛
                            brooke needs to escape from the tribe 2 joints man (is this same as tribe of apoo??)
                            robin might to decipher something first with the revolutionary armies (maybe perhaps another poneglyphs that had been taken care by them)

                            hmmm silly things for buggy as a new schikibukai??? 😛

                            kuma will also help to protect thousands sunny??? or they will sail to a certain island for the new meeting point

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                              I can't believe how much this is annoying me.

                              I need a holiday…

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                                @Haros:

                                http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/20
                                we have confirmation that Moria is alive he is working as the new WG post office :ninja:

                                lolz 😁 :ninja:

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                                  I don't think someone has mentioned this before but It's GREAT to see Vivi again :wub:

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                                    Every week after I read the chapter I can't wait for next week… Will it ever end? :sad:

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                                      I don't know if it's been said already, but isn't Luffy's bounty (put on the wall by Iva-san) with some more "zeros" than usual …

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                                        just gonna toss an idea in there..but maybe between the time ray told luffy his idea and the news being distributed they did something stupid or attention grabbing and managed to grab the news headline doing so
                                        Which would explain how his crew would have already appeared to know of the war happening and now this is news to them

                                        Anything humans can imagine is a possibility in reality-Physicist Willy Karen

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                                          @chaosceptor:

                                          just gonna toss an idea in there..but maybe between the time ray told luffy his idea and the news being distributed they did something stupid or attention grabbing and managed to grab the news headline doing so
                                          Which would explain how his crew would have already appeared to know of the war happening and now this is news to them

                                          What an idea! I would have never thought such a thing!!

                                          👅

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                                            I still can't understand what Luffy might have done, certainly because of Choppers "not again" from last week. If it is something Luffy has already done, than, what on earth could it be? Destroy Enies Lobby again? Breaking into ID again, Bitchslapping a tenryubito again? All possibilities but Rayleigh said that it would make sure a scenario like on shabaody and their utter defeat would never happen again because of his plan. Now if this is a part of the plan, what could make sure that would never happen again? becoming stronger is one but than, Luffy and co would still be easily dealt with by a marine admiral so it has to be something else but what? Shichibukai title comes to mind but the government would never go for it is my guess but it does offer save passage. Also it would be strange if Buggy got an invitation for the title and Luffy is trying to get in. Perhaps there is a reason there are 3 openings for Shichibukai. 1 being Buggy, One luffy (and I really hope this will not be the case) and perhaps someone we haven't met yet or some supernova.
                                            on another note, Luffy will never ever do anything for the WG after what they did to ace and almost to Robin.

                                            Remember, remember, the 5th of November

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                                              btw, the massage bat from WG smells like conspiration!

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                                                i really wanna know what's in the news..

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                                                  @flandrian15:

                                                  I still can't understand what Luffy might have done, certainly because of Choppers "not again" from last week.

                                                  Mistranslation^^

                                                  Chopper said "What now"

                                                  I did the same mistake^^

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                                                    @omy785:

                                                    I don't know if it's been said already, but isn't Luffy's bounty (put on the wall by Iva-san) with some more "zeros" than usual …

                                                    I think it's just the names in those boxes, not numbers.

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                                                      ah okay, never mind choppers reaction than, still, even without the reaction I am curious as to what Luffymight have done

                                                      Remember, remember, the 5th of November

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                                                        Gin will become one of the shichibukai calling it now.

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                                                          @GaaraofTheDesert:

                                                          Gin will become one of the shichibukai calling it now.

                                                          16 characters of yawn

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                                                            @meOme:

                                                            Every week after I read the chapter I can't wait for next week… Will it ever end? :sad:

                                                            Advice.

                                                            1 Do step 2 after reading steps 1 through 7
                                                            2 Turn off your computer
                                                            3 Get a life and/or hobby.
                                                            4 Spend time in that life and/or hobby.
                                                            5 Get mad at that life and/or hobby.
                                                            6 Large stacks of One Piece will be waiting for you.. Profit??
                                                            7 Repeat steps 2 - 6 when you have no more stacks of One Piece.

                                                            You're welcome.

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                                                              @JERK:

                                                              Alright serious question for the peanut gallery.

                                                              Do you actually think Oda would unveal Sabo to be both alive and back with a sort of looks-kind-of-like-him-if-you-squint dude standing in a background panel doing nothing?

                                                              Fuck the world if any of you intend to write fiction.

                                                              I would expect Sabo to look badass at the least, not that weird hair dude.

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                                                                Hey guys, I'm new to these forums, but here's my take on it.

                                                                FACTS:

                                                                1. It was Rayleigh's "plan" that would allow Luffy access to SA without as much of a risk to himself and his crew. The initial interpretation of this proposal was simply that Luffy had to get stronger. But there are other options (or combinations of options).

                                                                2. The world knowing about it (through the "news") is a part of the plan (we find this out from the revolutionaries + Crocodile). In other words, Rayleigh was counting on the fact that this huge "incident" would be picked up by the newspapers.

                                                                3. Chopper's reaction tells us it's something outrageous, and his words can be translated as either "why again!!?" or "what now!!?"

                                                                4. Sanji's reaction is that of surprise.

                                                                5. Robin's reaction is that of amusement.

                                                                6. A revolutionary described it as a "big incident."

                                                                7. Iva-san's reaction was that of surprise and said that Luffy's actions reminded him of Dragon's antics.

                                                                8. Vivi asked, "is it for fashion? no it can't be… it's Luffy after all"

                                                                9. Croc's reaction to it was "Right after getting their lives saved...just what are these idiots thinking? They must be planning something. If not, they've gone mad."

                                                                10. Daz bones reaction: "strawboy is wounded. Do wounds disappear that easily?"

                                                                Oda did a great job of telling us a lot whilst telling us nothing at all.

                                                                ANALYSIS:

                                                                From Crocodile's and Daz's reactions (9 & 10), we can conclude that whatever Luffy was reported doing (or having done) in the paper was extremely dangerous and would require a healthy Luffy. We know that it has been 3 weeks since the WB war ended and one week since we last saw Luffy with Rayleigh. That means they have had 1 week to carry out their "plan." We know that Trafalgar Law told Rayleigh that Luffy would have to stay put for another two weeks in order to heal. This leaves us with two options (that I can think of):

                                                                1. Luffy did in fact do something outrageously dangerous, and he healed in half the time,

                                                                or

                                                                2. Luffy has not done anything outrageously dangerous, but it was just reported that he did.

                                                                Fact #2, along with Law's warning about Luffy's health, leads me to believe option 2 is more likely.

                                                                But whichever it is, the purpose is ultimately the same: to allow Luffy an opportunity to meet up with his crew and continue on his journey without having to go through the same problems he and his crew encountered on SA (namely admirals, Pacifista, general marine/WG involvement). Remember, the world government and marines know what happened to the strawhats – that they were sent flying by Kuma to distant lands (even if they don't know specifically what lands they were). This was part of (if not entirely) the reason why Kuma was altered by Dr. Vegapunk in the first place. That being said, the WG and marines know that the Thousand Sunny is harbored on SA, and they may be waiting for Luffy and his crew to return to their ship unless….

                                                                Luffy is off (or at least reported to be) causing mayhem to some WG island that would cause the WG to shift its attention away from SA and towards another island or area on the seas. This is also supported by Iva's statement (7) about the similarities to Dragon, who no doubt constantly fought against (and continues to fight against) the WG. This is also supported by the revolutionary, who called what Luffy has been reported as doing a "big incident" (6).

                                                                THEORY:

                                                                AL is technically a government-allied island, as it it home to the royal shichibukai, Boa Hancock. I believe that it was reported in the news that Luffy declared an attack on Kuja Island and its princess Hebihime. This is not to say that it was announced Luffy necessarily "took over" the island, but instead that he was launching a powerful attack with the help of Jimbei and other allies. Thus, it would not seem unreasonable or make Hancock look weak if she called out to the WG for help/backup against the powerful enemies. An attack on Boa and her island is technically a call to war against the WG and marines. This would explain a number of comments and reactions from people we've seen (3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10).

                                                                That leaves Robin and Vivi.

                                                                Robin could be amused for any number of reasons. She may think the picture of Luffy is funny. I personally think that she is amused because threatening an entire island controlled by a shichibukai with deep connections to the WG is such a strange thing to do (I can imagine it accompanied by a picture of Luffy with a really serious face), and it sort of brings back those weird memories of her ridiculous captain.

                                                                As for Vivi, I think people are reading too much into this. I don't think her reaction is as important to the content of the article as some of the other reactions. But her reaction could be based on a couple of things. It could be something as simple as the photo of Luffy having him wearing some new AL clothes (possibly with frills?). But here's what I honestly think: Vivi's words can be interpreted as pondering whether Luffy's actions were based on "fashion," "style," or general outward appearances. But then she says to herself "no it can't be, it's Luffy after all." Vivi knows Luffy, and Luffy usually never does anything for purposes of looks, fashion, style, or any form of outward appearance; that's just not the kind of man he is. But her facial expression and confusion belie what she's saying to herself; it's as if she can't believe what she's reading and is attempting to convince herself that it is something Luffy would do and not simply something for style or appearance's sake.

                                                                But of course it is for appearance's sake, as it will give Luffy time to reach SA without the government's tail and with limited interference. He may already be near or approaching SA with Jimbei (and Rayleigh?) since it's been a whole week. Meanwhile, the government is notified of strawhat's (and his allies') attack on Kuja kingdom (with a pretend photo–possibly funny/stylish--taken as evidence). Therefore, the government disregards SA as the place where the strawhats will be and focuses on Kuja Kingdom. By the time marine reinforcements arrive, Boa will simply claim that Luffy and company escaped by stealing a ship after causing massive damage and stealing some treasure. Of course, she will tell the government they went in a direction away from SA. This will ensure Boa keeps her title as Shichibukai as well, since she fought off Luffy.

                                                                Obviously, Oda could pretty much do anything, but currently I believe this to be the likeliest scenario.

                                                                Thoughts?

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                                                                  Maybe Kuma will teleport Sunny to the Women's Isle. If not, then shakky and the gang are in big trouble.

                                                                  If I remember correctly, it will take 3 days for the ship to arrive if it goes by the same speed as Luffy. And if Luffy did something outrageous again, I think that he may have left the island already. I don't think that he did something at the Amazon, and then called the marines to inform them of it…

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                                                                    At first I thought the guy in the paper looked a little bit like Usopp, but he doesn't have a long nose. If it has anything to do with it, I think that person has a meaning.

                                                                    http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/6

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                                                                      Why do you do this to us oda, why

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                                                                        just gonna toss an idea in there..but maybe between the time ray told luffy his idea and the news being distributed they did something stupid or attention grabbing and managed to grab the news headline doing so
                                                                        Which would explain how his crew would have already appeared to know of the war happening and now this is news to them

                                                                        That is…pretty much what happened yeah...........

                                                                        Wow, this is stupid.

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                                                                          These random Kuma appearances on Saboady are getting quite draining. It's like "what the fuck do you want now?!"

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                                                                            @Chikmagnet7:

                                                                            Obviously, Oda could pretty much do anything, but currently I believe this to be the likeliest scenario.

                                                                            Thoughts?

                                                                            Very well explained theory. I liked it. 😆

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                                                                              @Chikmagnet7:

                                                                              Hey guys, I'm new to these forums, but here's my take on it.

                                                                              FACTS:

                                                                              1. It was Rayleigh's "plan" that would allow Luffy access to SA without as much of a risk to himself and his crew. The initial interpretation of this proposal was simply that Luffy had to get stronger. But there are other options (or combinations of options).

                                                                              2. The world knowing about it (through the "news") is a part of the plan (we find this out from the revolutionaries + Crocodile). In other words, Rayleigh was counting on the fact that this huge "incident" would be picked up by the newspapers.

                                                                              3. Chopper's reaction tells us it's something outrageous, and his words can be translated as either "why again!!?" or "what now!!?"

                                                                              4. Sanji's reaction is that of surprise.

                                                                              5. Robin's reaction is that of amusement.

                                                                              6. A revolutionary described it as a "big incident."

                                                                              7. Iva-san's reaction was that of surprise and said that Luffy's actions reminded him of Dragon's antics.

                                                                              8. Vivi asked, "is it for fashion? no it can't be… it's Luffy after all"

                                                                              9. Croc's reaction to it was "Right after getting their lives saved...just what are these idiots thinking? They must be planning something. If not, they've gone mad."

                                                                              10. Daz bones reaction: "strawboy is wounded. Do wounds disappear that easily?"

                                                                              Oda did a great job of telling us a lot whilst telling us nothing at all.

                                                                              ANALYSIS:

                                                                              From Crocodile's and Daz's reactions (9 & 10), we can conclude that whatever Luffy was reported doing (or having done) in the paper was extremely dangerous and would require a healthy Luffy. We know that it has been 3 weeks since the WB war ended and one week since we last saw Luffy with Rayleigh. That means they have had 1 week to carry out their "plan." We know that Trafalgar Law told Rayleigh that Luffy would have to stay put for another two weeks in order to heal. This leaves us with two options (that I can think of):

                                                                              1. Luffy did in fact do something outrageously dangerous, and he healed in half the time,

                                                                              or

                                                                              2. Luffy has not done anything outrageously dangerous, but it was just reported that he did.

                                                                              Fact #2, along with Law's warning about Luffy's health, leads me to believe option 2 is more likely.

                                                                              But whichever it is, the purpose is ultimately the same: to allow Luffy an opportunity to meet up with his crew and continue on his journey without having to go through the same problems he and his crew encountered on SA (namely admirals, Pacifista, general marine/WG involvement). Remember, the world government and marines know what happened to the strawhats – that they were sent flying by Kuma to distant lands (even if they don't know specifically what lands they were). This was part of (if not entirely) the reason why Kuma was altered by Dr. Vegapunk in the first place. That being said, the WG and marines know that the Thousand Sunny is harbored on SA, and they may be waiting for Luffy and his crew to return to their ship unless….

                                                                              Luffy is off (or at least reported to be) causing mayhem to some WG island that would cause the WG to shift its attention away from SA and towards another island or area on the seas. This is also supported by Iva's statement (7) about the similarities to Dragon, who no doubt constantly fought against (and continues to fight against) the WG. This is also supported by the revolutionary, who called what Luffy has been reported as doing a "big incident" (6).

                                                                              THEORY:

                                                                              AL is technically a government-allied island, as it it home to the royal shichibukai, Boa Hancock. I believe that it was reported in the news that Luffy declared an attack on Kuja Island and its princess Hebihime. This is not to say that it was announced Luffy necessarily "took over" the island, but instead that he was launching a powerful attack with the help of Jimbei and other allies. Thus, it would not seem unreasonable or make Hancock look weak if she called out to the WG for help/backup against the powerful enemies. An attack on Boa and her island is technically a call to war against the WG and marines. This would explain a number of comments and reactions from people we've seen (3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10).

                                                                              That leaves Robin and Vivi.

                                                                              Robin could be amused for any number of reasons. She may think the picture of Luffy is funny. I personally think that she is amused because threatening an entire island controlled by a shichibukai with deep connections to the WG is such a strange thing to do (I can imagine it accompanied by a picture of Luffy with a really serious face), and it sort of brings back those weird memories of her ridiculous captain.

                                                                              As for Vivi, I think people are reading too much into this. I don't think her reaction is as important to the content of the article as some of the other reactions. But her reaction could be based on a couple of things. It could be something as simple as the photo of Luffy having him wearing some new AL clothes (possibly with frills?). But here's what I honestly think: Vivi's words can be interpreted as pondering whether Luffy's actions were based on "fashion," "style," or general outward appearances. But then she says to herself "no it can't be, it's Luffy after all." Vivi knows Luffy, and Luffy usually never does anything for purposes of looks, fashion, style, or any form of outward appearance; that's just not the kind of man he is. But her facial expression and confusion belie what she's saying to herself; it's as if she can't believe what she's reading and is attempting to convince herself that it is something Luffy would do and not simply something for style or appearance's sake.

                                                                              But of course it is for appearance's sake, as it will give Luffy time to reach SA without the government's tail and with limited interference. He may already be near or approaching SA with Jimbei (and Rayleigh?) since it's been a whole week. Meanwhile, the government is notified of strawhat's (and his allies') attack on Kuja kingdom (with a pretend photo–possibly funny/stylish--taken as evidence). Therefore, the government disregards SA as the place where the strawhats will be and focuses on Kuja Kingdom. By the time marine reinforcements arrive, Boa will simply claim that Luffy and company escaped by stealing a ship after causing massive damage and stealing some treasure. Of course, she will tell the government they went in a direction away from SA. This will ensure Boa keeps her title as Shichibukai as well, since she fought off Luffy.

                                                                              Obviously, Oda could pretty much do anything, but currently I believe this to be the likeliest scenario.

                                                                              Thoughts?

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                                                                              Onemanga?? I thought they closed. Anyways I also have a clone there…

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                                                                                that guy who posted that analysis is a winner

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                                                                                  That is…pretty much what happened yeah...........

                                                                                  Wow, this is stupid.

                                                                                  half was meant as sarcasm half was meant to state the only possible clear facts
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                                                                                    I can't believe how much this is annoying me.
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                                                                                    hahaha, noticed the same thing:happy:
                                                                                    i thought could be his brother orso.

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                                                                                      Sammsy I have to compliment you on your well thought out posts–especially in the spoiler thread! But this one I disagree with, for these reasons:

                                                                                      I think WB (and the other yonkou, if they have territories--I can't see Shanks with any though---seems like it'd be too much effort on his part...) earned their reps through deeds long before they started declaring territories to be under their protection. Trying to gain a rep by putting an island at risk so you can prove your stones seems a little like putting the cart before the horse--and really doesn't seem anything like what a man like WB would have thought was a good idea. He was all about protecting those he cared about--not putting them at risk.

                                                                                      Luffy has already started earning a rep with his deeds--that's part of why he has a bounty at all. I believe as he gets stronger and have adventures, he will continue to make that rep (and his bounty, lol) bigger. He doesn't need to declare a territory to do that, it doesn't seem like a terribly good idea if teh main reason is to pump up his rep., and in fact has specifically stated that he has no desire to "conquer" anything. That statement makes me feel he wouldn't really have much interest in declaring territory--that would involve a loss of freedom to go where and when he wanted in order to be around to protect said territory--and that is contrary to everything we've been told about Luffy throughout the entire Manga.

                                                                                      Well that is kind of part of my reasoning, I had just narrowed it down to solely protecting islands.

                                                                                      But Luffy has shown to the WORLD that he is willing to do crazy things for his friends such as the enies lobby, impel down, marineford and the slave auction. This is also things that the WG has for sure seen as well.

                                                                                      These yes give his name some credence to if he were to proclaim an island as his to some or even most people. But it will never get to the point of EVERYONE like it did with whitebeard until he proves that he is dead serious in not just his crew and brother, and also not just about convenience of we are there right now so save the people. I know we all dont' like it, but for his name to truly mean something it would have to be something like we are in say the new world and then rush BACKWARDS a long ways to show we are serious in our dedication to say protecting fishman island.

                                                                                      Right now our name is I'm sure enough to scare away >100 million easy, but lets take brownbeard for example, i can see him not giving a shit about luffy's name yet. And hell I wouldn't be surprised if Brownbeard was shown back then for that sole reason, we claim and island and he takes it over and we go back to take him out.

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                                                                                        Hey guys, I'm new to these forums, but here's my take on it.

                                                                                        ! FACTS:
                                                                                        ! 1. It was Rayleigh's "plan" that would allow Luffy access to SA without as much of a risk to himself and his crew. The initial interpretation of this proposal was simply that Luffy had to get stronger. But there are other options (or combinations of options).
                                                                                        ! 2. The world knowing about it (through the "news") is a part of the plan (we find this out from the revolutionaries + Crocodile). In other words, Rayleigh was counting on the fact that this huge "incident" would be picked up by the newspapers.
                                                                                        ! 3. Chopper's reaction tells us it's something outrageous, and his words can be translated as either "why again!!?" or "what now!!?"
                                                                                        ! 4. Sanji's reaction is that of surprise.
                                                                                        ! 5. Robin's reaction is that of amusement.
                                                                                        ! 6. A revolutionary described it as a "big incident."
                                                                                        ! 7. Iva-san's reaction was that of surprise and said that Luffy's actions reminded him of Dragon's antics.
                                                                                        ! 8. Vivi asked, "is it for fashion? no it can't be… it's Luffy after all"
                                                                                        ! 9. Croc's reaction to it was "Right after getting their lives saved...just what are these idiots thinking? They must be planning something. If not, they've gone mad."
                                                                                        ! 10. Daz bones reaction: "strawboy is wounded. Do wounds disappear that easily?"
                                                                                        ! Oda did a great job of telling us a lot whilst telling us nothing at all.
                                                                                        ! ANALYSIS:
                                                                                        ! From Crocodile's and Daz's reactions (9 & 10), we can conclude that whatever Luffy was reported doing (or having done) in the paper was extremely dangerous and would require a healthy Luffy. We know that it has been 3 weeks since the WB war ended and one week since we last saw Luffy with Rayleigh. That means they have had 1 week to carry out their "plan." We know that Trafalgar Law told Rayleigh that Luffy would have to stay put for another two weeks in order to heal. This leaves us with two options (that I can think of):
                                                                                        ! 1. Luffy did in fact do something outrageously dangerous, and he healed in half the time,
                                                                                        ! or
                                                                                        ! 2. Luffy has not done anything outrageously dangerous, but it was just reported that he did.
                                                                                        ! Fact #2, along with Law's warning about Luffy's health, leads me to believe option 2 is more likely.
                                                                                        ! But whichever it is, the purpose is ultimately the same: to allow Luffy an opportunity to meet up with his crew and continue on his journey without having to go through the same problems he and his crew encountered on SA (namely admirals, Pacifista, general marine/WG involvement). Remember, the world government and marines know what happened to the strawhats – that they were sent flying by Kuma to distant lands (even if they don't know specifically what lands they were). This was part of (if not entirely) the reason why Kuma was altered by Dr. Vegapunk in the first place. That being said, the WG and marines know that the Thousand Sunny is harbored on SA, and they may be waiting for Luffy and his crew to return to their ship unless….
                                                                                        ! Luffy is off (or at least reported to be) causing mayhem to some WG island that would cause the WG to shift its attention away from SA and towards another island or area on the seas. This is also supported by Iva's statement (7) about the similarities to Dragon, who no doubt constantly fought against (and continues to fight against) the WG. This is also supported by the revolutionary, who called what Luffy has been reported as doing a "big incident" (6).
                                                                                        ! THEORY:
                                                                                        ! AL is technically a government-allied island, as it it home to the royal shichibukai, Boa Hancock. I believe that it was reported in the news that Luffy declared an attack on Kuja Island and its princess Hebihime. This is not to say that it was announced Luffy necessarily "took over" the island, but instead that he was launching a powerful attack with the help of Jimbei and other allies. Thus, it would not seem unreasonable or make Hancock look weak if she called out to the WG for help/backup against the powerful enemies. An attack on Boa and her island is technically a call to war against the WG and marines. This would explain a number of comments and reactions from people we've seen (3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10).
                                                                                        ! That leaves Robin and Vivi.
                                                                                        ! Robin could be amused for any number of reasons. She may think the picture of Luffy is funny. I personally think that she is amused because threatening an entire island controlled by a shichibukai with deep connections to the WG is such a strange thing to do (I can imagine it accompanied by a picture of Luffy with a really serious face), and it sort of brings back those weird memories of her ridiculous captain.
                                                                                        ! As for Vivi, I think people are reading too much into this. I don't think her reaction is as important to the content of the article as some of the other reactions. But her reaction could be based on a couple of things. It could be something as simple as the photo of Luffy having him wearing some new AL clothes (possibly with frills?). But here's what I honestly think: Vivi's words can be interpreted as pondering whether Luffy's actions were based on "fashion," "style," or general outward appearances. But then she says to herself "no it can't be, it's Luffy after all." Vivi knows Luffy, and Luffy usually never does anything for purposes of looks, fashion, style, or any form of outward appearance; that's just not the kind of man he is. But her facial expression and confusion belie what she's saying to herself; it's as if she can't believe what she's reading and is attempting to convince herself that it is something Luffy would do and not simply something for style or appearance's sake.
                                                                                        ! But of course it is for appearance's sake, as it will give Luffy time to reach SA without the government's tail and with limited interference. He may already be near or approaching SA with Jimbei (and Rayleigh?) since it's been a whole week. Meanwhile, the government is notified of strawhat's (and his allies') attack on Kuja kingdom (with a pretend photo–possibly funny/stylish--taken as evidence). Therefore, the government disregards SA as the place where the strawhats will be and focuses on Kuja Kingdom. By the time marine reinforcements arrive, Boa will simply claim that Luffy and company escaped by stealing a ship after causing massive damage and stealing some treasure. Of course, she will tell the government they went in a direction away from SA. This will ensure Boa keeps her title as Shichibukai as well, since she fought off Luffy.
                                                                                        ! Obviously, Oda could pretty much do anything, but currently I believe this to be the likeliest scenario.
                                                                                        ! Thoughts?

                                                                                        By God. Theres Someone with a sensible argument at AP with out the "Derp Derp cause i likes it"

                                                                                        Bravo.

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                                                                                          ohhh and by the way…
                                                                                          i dont like that camie etc are planning what to do in FI when the SHs come back.
                                                                                          means we will have them still with us for a longer time:sad:

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                                                                                            half was meant as sarcasm half was meant to state the only possible clear facts
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                                                                                            I have a sense of humor, this just wasn't funny..at all.

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                                                                                                ohhh and by the way…
                                                                                                i dont like that camie etc are planning what to do in FI when the SHs come back.
                                                                                                means we will have them still with us for a longer time:sad:

                                                                                                they planed on showing them around from the start. we've had almost half a year without them with the imple AL > Imple Down > War > Recovery. A lil while longer with them isn't the worst thing to happen. -.-

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                                                                                                  I have a sense of humor, this just wasn't funny..at all.

                                                                                                  And again, i didnt mean it to be funny i said SARCASM
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                                                                                                    I have just spent 5 minutes looking at the newspaper that Robin is holding and I noticed that it looks like Luffy and his hat with something white covering his entire back. I believe they are wings that Rayleigh made for him to get stronger. I think this because of the reactions of people. For example, 1)Robin found the picture amusing 2)Sanji was surprised at the picture, 3)Chopper either said ?Not again!? or ?What now?!?. If he said the first one, it could mean like when they were in Water 7, Luffy tried to fly over the city like Kaku. If he said the second one, it could just mean it was another crazy antic of his captain, 4)Iva-chan knows about Dragon being able to fly on the storms and such (or so I'm guessing), 5)Crocodile said he must have a plan or else he was crazy. Which could be referring to hi flying over the ocean while being a DF user, 6)Daz says that maybe he shouldn't be doing that with his wounds.

                                                                                                    What do you think?

                                                                                                    I like the idea that he declared war on the Kuja better.

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                                                                                                      Wow! I'm impressed. Welcome to AP. :happy:

                                                                                                      he/she already deserves a star , nicely done

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                                                                                                        Hey guys, I'm new to these forums, but here's my take on it.

                                                                                                        Hey I agree that it will be something like this, I posted something similar earlier 😄 I could also see Luffy pretending to kidnapp Hancock to keep the option for her joining the Strawhats open 👅

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