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Luffy declared he is teaming up with the revolutionary army…maybe? Would this go against his Pirate code?
Please, go back reading the first chapter when Luffy was abducted and Shank's crew arrived.
There is no such things as a code in the pirate World. Personnal ethic, only, at best.
how do we know that luffy did smth and that it is not just a lie spread by the WG?
i was happy to see Croc and Dragon in this chapter
and buggy will be funny as a shichibukai
but to my mind aren't the shichibukai a little too powerless so far??
buggy is powerless
croc-moria being defeated by luffy
boa-jinbei and kuma(probably) an ally
don flamingo and mihawk are superb though
(i hate bb i wont even mention him)
So the WG uses carrier bats.
That's kind dark for the WG.
He went back to eines loby and drew his own particular badly drawn jolly roger in the island, defeating every marine that dared to try and stop him.
really nice chapter. all the chapter you wanted to have the news but didnt get it.
Really not sure, if that AL terrority thing can be true or what purpose it would have.
The greatest hint is problably that Robin find its funny and is smiling.
Also i think that whole AL topic and what happens to it(as country and to amzon people) is a bit overfocused. The WG truly has alot of other topics ongoing as well. And right now theres a strong power on AL, so AL is prolly quite save.
Piracy is increasing and all mein forces were gathered together, so they have to get out again to have more presence. Than theres BB, Dragon and the destoyed marineford, the shibukai status, + other things.
Another point is prolly the relationship btw garp and senkogu…i doubt senkgoku wants to harm Garp even more right now and provoking maybe a loss of the great hero if he now focuses mainly on luffy(tho thats just speculating from my side)
I never thought about it like that.
Damn thank you for putting it in this perspective. For the last couple hours i've been reading theory after theory, but this makes the most sense to me right now. and it would totally work!
Yeah this does put Luffy's motivation in perspective, he would basically be trying to tell his crew that he's ok while he sits on AL and trains, but how would he go about doing that? Maybe as has been said already, he vandalized something that would be seen with their jolly roger?
The newspaper shows a marriage photo of Luffy and Hancock and the non-stylish thing Vivi is looking at is Luffy in wedding tuxedo 
Is kuma going to destroy shakky and co or will they survive him… Oda stop teasing us.
Is kuma going to destroy shakky and co or will they survive him… Oda stop teasing us.
I'm wondering if Kuma has come for information about where Luffy is or has he come for the Thousand Sunny?
Thoughts:
-"I don't need your protection", I would laugh if Kuma appeared, blasted her to another
far away place and disappeared again. "Oops"
-That revolutionary guy is SO NOT SABO
-Sanji's interaction with Ivankov was hilarious
-Another weird Den Den, lol
-Duval's wink is as scary as ever
-Oh shit, what will save those guys from Kuma. Luffy? Rayleigh?
-Man, Crocodile is even more awesome than usual in this chapter
-LOL at Buggy and his useless crew commanding a crew of SOB's, that won't ever get old
-As a Blackbeard fanboy and a Crocodile fan, I can say that Buggy will make a very fine replacement LOL
@Zik:
Yeah so exactly why would they turn around and make him an ally? Might as well offer Luffy a spot too. I mean Dragon's son, Roger's crewmate all seem to be dangerous monikers in the eyes of the marines. So if you add "brother" to Shanks as well I don't see why they'd offer him a job.
With that logic the Shichibukai wouldn't exist. All pirates are evil and theoretically go against the government. They invited Ace to be a Shichibukai too.
So when you bring up WB you mean to say the WG knows Buggy aint shit but can
controlfool those criminals to do his every whim and therefore Buggy is an asset as long as those criminals follow him? So the WG would be banking on Buggy maintaining leadership in making him a shichbukai?
The reason why Whitebeard knows Buggy isn't powerful is because he knew him as a lad.
We know Buggy is not super powerful, but nothing about the war would really suggest that Buggy couldn't hold his own. Sure he didn't stand out on the battlefield but he wasn't taken down by a random Marine. He survived attacks from Admirals and Mihawk. He was blamed for the Impel Down incident along with the back story of being on Roger's crew. All of this would signify a powerful person.
And if Buggy could convince a bunch of criminals to participate in a war after escaping Impel Down, I would think the Marines wouldn't question the prisoner's loyalty to Buggy.
And even if the Marines did question their loyalty, nothing from the story suggests they would betray Buggy. Buggy is their savior after all.
Finally, admittedly a stretch, but final point was put in a quote and I'm not sure if you read it, but having Buggy become an ally of the Marines would allow the Marines to save face. Most of the prisoners from the first Impel Down incident are following Buggy. It would be a smart tactical move if the a large portion of prisoners were ordered by a government dog instead of roaming free.
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
Oh why does Oda have to be such a dick tease.
The newspaper shows a marriage photo of Luffy and Hancock and the non-stylish thing Vivi is looking at is Luffy in wedding tuxedo
or a photo of luffy in the thermal pool and 3000 naked amazons serving him food and sake with a quote " im ok… im healing my wounds"
Epic..a need for the 1 billion reward flyer
sanji will just die on the spot
That's all you have? You act like this is your trump card or something. SOMETHING THAT COULD EASILY BE WORKED AROUND OR EXPLAINED BY A TODDLER ENSURES THAT YOU ARE WRONG. For some reason, Sanji should be intensely jealous, as opposed to being shocked (like he was) at Luffy doing something so out of character.
I know I'm late to the discussion, but this was the page I landed on when I came back online… so anyway, I wouldn't dismiss this point so quickly. Sanji's reaction, both in vocally and visually, would be completely out of character for "LUFFY MARRIED <insert any="" woman="" who="" is="" not="" luara="">". It's an extremely valid point. I know everyone already mentioned how stupid it would be for Ray's "plan" to give away Luffy's location and connections right after telling Nyon they were safe and that the Marines wouldn't make a move on a hunch. His plan would be a complete contradiction to him easing their worries and confirming their safety.
@Dan:
Point is, the Doctors orders are likely inaccurate and thus meaningless.
I don't want to drag this out, but the circumstances are different. Luffy will be stubborn when there is something he needs to do, like save his brother, but in this particular scenario we have Rayleigh telling him he needs to make sure the same situation doesn't happen again. This, combined with my other points, are what lead me to believe that whatever it is won't be too strenuous and won't take him too far from Amazon Lily.</insert>
I wonder if Vivi or Cobra are going to hear about Luffy teaming up with Baraqou Works.
I'm wondering if Kuma has come for information about where Luffy is or has he come for the Thousand Sunny?
Her reaction and his reply to the question makes me worry. I expect a light beam direct in their face.
to all those saying Luffy's name means nothing yet, you do realize that his name will only mean something after he proves he is serious. Even if he is pirate king, roger or whitbeard strength his name still does not mean nothing.
its not until an island he declares gets attacked/robbed or whatever and luffy goes out and kicks those peoples asses to the moon showing that his name is serious and not just bullshit, will his name start to get merit behind it.
hell take doflamingo for example, look what happened to his auction house. and what did he do when told? he said "ah screw it, your in charge now, i dont' need that anymore" That person does not have a NAME. Are you afraid to attack something of his? nah, he doesn't seem to care if he loses something. If it was Whitebeard, everyone who was part of the destruction would be hunted till they are all dead. That is what it means to have a name.
So don't bring up Luffy has no name YET to declare something his, no shit. He will never have a name to declare it his until he proves things are his by DEFENDING them.
Her reaction and his reply to the question makes me worry. I expect a light beam direct in their face.
No doubt that's what would have happened if someone didn't save them
I still wonder who will
The more funny reactions we get from characters…the more I think Mr.2 alive and doing crazy things as "Luffy"...you know, to get the government off his scent. It could be a nice little twist and it shows that Mr. 2 is still alive. I refuse to believe he's dead...reeeffffuuussee!!!
You all know Oda is going to pull off something from the left field, and every single one of you are going to be wrong.
That's why I'm not even bothering to guess.
Oda is showing how to PROPERLY troll your fans.
Take note, certain authors. Not naming anyone in particular. You know.
So for an entire chapter our favorite chapters read a newspaper and don't let us see it, each teasing us with their different opinions.
We'd better see it. With Chopper this thing has been hinted at for like 3 weeks now. I also like how this chapter set up so many cliffhangers.
The most interesting reaction is that of Robin's. She's glad and probably read that Luffy is alright and up to doing reckless shit again.
The more funny reactions we get from characters…the more I think Mr.2 alive and doing crazy things as "Luffy"...you know, to get the government off his scent. It could be a nice little twist and it shows that Mr. 2 is still alive. I refuse to believe he's dead...reeeffffuuussee!!!
If Magellan was beaten to an inch of his life (my guess is by Blackbeard, Shiryuu and co) then maybe it gave Bon Kurei the chance to fuck off outta Impel Down. But that depends on if he was beaten by Magellan. If I had to guess, I'd say that we'll get a flashback, and just as Bon Kurei was going to get attacked, Blackbeard and the rest of them burst in to attack Magellan because Shiryuu wanted revenge. Dunno how Bon Kurei would escape from Impel Down though… maybe he got a lift from Blackbeard lol... but most probably not.
The theme that's been running for awhile now that Luffy isn't strong enough yet to faces the challenges ahead kinda contradicts what you're proposing.
you hit the nail on the head, it's not a stupid theory because it isn't worded right, but because of the fact we've been seeing this foreshadowed for so long that sooner or later someones got to get them stronger
i think whatever luffy did was something to increase training to get him stronger but who knows, no reason to get all angry about it though since it will probably be answered shortly
Luffy married Hancock.
Guys get in this thread already http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=6862
This is impossible, there's nothing in the manga to even explain what Rayleigh thought. Perhaps it is Luffy in disguise with some ugly outfit on, perhaps not…
I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy wore Revo-attire.
I think on page 6, that's Law and Bepo down there...
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/6
So, I think they had made the news by saying that they're alive or something.
No! Your previous theory was a lot cooler!
xD Ahahah, human brain is so tricky.
@ultimateclima:
With that logic the Shichibukai wouldn't exist. All pirates are evil and theoretically go against the government. They invited Ace to be a Shichibukai too.
Yeah they asked Ace before revealing anything about him. They were hoping he'd be that type of pirate that wouldn't mind fighting for the WG time to time and basically having free reign on the seas. Buggy already made himself look like a jackass on camera and all of his colorful adjectives to describe himself. He was already shown to be against the marines. All pirates aren't evil btw.
The reason why Whitebeard knows Buggy isn't powerful is because he knew him as a lad.
So how do Croc, Iva, Jinbei, Das, etc. know? Hell even Mr. 3 knows Buggy isn't that stronger than him. It's pretty obvious that powerful characters can tell when one other character aint shit. Why is there no one amongst the WG that would notice that?
We know Buggy is not super powerful, but nothing about the war would really suggest that Buggy couldn't hold his own.
What in the war suggests he could? I mean you're basically saying these criminals he currently has under his command makes him shichibukai worthy.
Sure he didn't stand out on the battlefield but he wasn't taken down by a random Marine. He survived attacks from Admirals and Mihawk. He was blamed for the Impel Down incident along with the back story of being on Roger's crew. All of this would signify a powerful person.
None of that explains why the Gorousei would be dumb enough to offer him a spot on the shichibukai or why somebody like Sengoku wouldn't speak up against such a foolish suggestion.
And if Buggy could convince a bunch of criminals to participate in a war after escaping Impel Down, I would think the Marines wouldn't question the prisoner's loyalty to Buggy.
And even if the Marines did question their loyalty, nothing from the story suggests they would betray Buggy. Buggy is their savior after all.
Of course they would question it. I mean first off they're either going to be fooled and gullible enough to believe he is powerful or they're gonna realize the only thing that makes him kinda fearsome is his newly attained crew. Now, exactly why would the WG trust a dumbass like Buggy? All I forsee is plenty of failed missions on his part while he reaps the benefits of being a shichibukai.
Finally, admittedly a stretch, but final point was put in a quote and I'm not sure if you read it, but having Buggy become an ally of the Marines would allow the Marines to save face. Most of the prisoners from the first Impel Down incident are following Buggy. It would be a smart tactical move if the a large portion of prisoners were ordered by a government dog instead of roaming free.
I did read the quote. The WG would not save face by making Buggy a shichibukai. They'd just look like huge incompetent dumbasses for letting him mooch off them and for the inevitable betrayal that'd hurt them greatly.
It'd be a smart tactical move to kill Buggy and his crew now or like I said earlier invite him and then kill him.
I think you guys are taking this joke too far and far too seriously. It's funny seeing yall rationalize it though.
I mean really, "kill" Moria and then invite Buggy?
Zik Of The 7 Swords: Vision? What do you know about my vision? My vision would turn your world upside down, tear asunder your illusions, and send the sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing down around you. Now ask yourself, Are you ready to see that vision?
@JERK:
I'm thinking he did some big incident and vandalized a large wall or something with a clear sign or message to let his crew know he's alive and not traumatized beyond recognition of what's happened.
That's not a bad suggestion, and fits Robin's reaction, but doesn't quite fit Sanji's or Chopper's. At least, that wouldn't be the only meaning behind him landing himself in the paper. The big "plan".
You all know Oda is going to pull off something from the left field, and every single one of you are going to be wrong.
That's what I was telling Urouge. Oda's been doing a great job of giving us no solid clues, so it will probably be something nobody things of. Although I think JERK DISEASE made a good point above.
bring me up to speed, what the hell is Basco Shot doing with Buggy and his crew?
mid panel, page 19.
Just to reasure what I thought based on the spoilers: win win win win win chapter! Every single page of it!
I seriously hope we don't lose track of those characters (Iva, Croc, Buggy and their groups along with all the revolutionaries) once we get to the New World. I am seriously excited about everything that seems to be getting prepared to the next (big) arc.
@Zik
All those characters fought alongside Buggy in Impel Down. They saw by theirselves he is weak. The WG, on the other hand, only saw this guy commanding a huge "army", standing by WB's side, be revealed as a former-Roger crewmate and close friend to Shanks, survive against Mihawk direct hit without a scratch (and the WG probably doesn't know about his Bara Bara powers, as we can see the ID guards didn't knew he even was a fruit user), the guy even escaped Smoke magically back in Logue Town, etc.
It wouldn't be a surprise if the WG really thinks he is that strong because, truth be told, they have nothing to think otherwise. Although I believe they are simply using Buggy due to his recent found out relations, so it will look good for the government to have him as their "dog".
Did Luffy disguise himself to fool everyone and had been dumb enough to write that in his twitter profile? Has the WG sent Buggy finally a letter to tell him that they accept him as there messiah and are sorry for praying to the Goat till now?
No, seriously. I think whatever Luffy did Rayleigh came up with the plan so it is gonna help Luffy but what could be possible be amusing to Robin and help him? I hope it will be soon shown.
Also must know what happen to Kuma and if he is at Sabaody to help (which isn´t very likely after the speech from Flamingo) or to kill.
And that whole thing with Buggy completly suprised me. Can´t wait till next chapter.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/66085019/6
is this bepo in bottom right panel on news paper :s
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@45°Dunc:
bring me up to speed, what the hell is Basco Shot doing with Buggy and his crew?
mid panel, page 19.
Now I understand everything about what will happen with Buggy. That bat is from BB, and he's planning to do a trap to kill Buggy and piss off Shanks. :ninja:
@zik
For my last defense of shichibukai Buggy:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/549/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/549/11/
The marines think he's "smart" for hiding such "secrets" for a long time. Ace was invited to be a shichibukai, but remember that Sengoku was surprised most because of the "D." than his "power" (let's say bounty or what he did).
But I won't be like Jinbei and defend that theory even if it cost my life, and from here I'll stop begin a dumbass like you said.
Is it me or are some of the adults like Dragon and Croc looking more weathered and older than their previous designs?
Buggy has been asked to replace the missing Shichibukai. you heard it here first.
I second that motion…
Rofl!
Hum… None though of this???
Seems that Sabo have found is freedom. What a style change!
humhum
wait a sec… Doesn't Sanji's poster say 677 million beri?!?
@Zik:
What in the war suggests he could? I mean you're basically saying these criminals he currently has under his command makes him shichibukai worthy.
You do realize that you're talking about the same organization that slaughtered hundreds of babies just because they could theoretically be Gol D. Roger's son?
The WG is obviously a racist bunch of idiots that believes if you have anything to do with Roger you are about to become the world's next big super pirate even if you haven't been born yet.
Adding Buggy's awesome followers to that and I personally wonder why they haven't already named him the new Pirate King…
The more I think about the idea that Luffy tagged some big wall, the more I like it.
@Del:
Hum… None though of this???
[qimg]http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8011/wtfyz.png[/qimg]
Seems that Sabo have found is freedom. What a style change!
Wrong, thats Franky's father:ninja:.
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