Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)

King Cannon

From this point onwards, expect any hot and/or badass female to gain massive support for next crewmate.

Enzeru

Next nakama. He's hidden on the moon but he'll appear together with Enel later on.

dedo1231

LOL…. space pirates look like " animal face with beast body and can talk "

MasterKingJC

Oda really knows how to cock tease a fanbase.

So, Jinbe's just going let the Straw Hats deal with Big Mom alone?
I guess that shows you how much faith he has in Luffy already.

RomanceDawn

Very surprised he didn't get on the ship, but oh well. I liked their last words together, if you can call it that. It was like "we have a deal, remember that!"

Imagine someone else joins in between Jinbe, would Jinbe be the 9th and this other person be the 10th? Kind of like Nami after Usopp and Sanji? Would be interesting to say the least.

dasia

Masterking: No,the place where they meet again is Big Mam's island. Linlin will force Jinbei to choose between his crew's lives and fighting alongside the strawhats in that confrontation.Romancedawn: it was exactly that.

@RobbyBevard:

No, Jinbe's going there directly and first. Luffy is going off to have fun on random islands.
Luffy will catch up later after Jinbe is in a bad spot as a result.

Yes this.

goty

@Enzeru:

Why does everyone want Jinbe to die? I'm no fan of him either but I'd rather have him join than just kill him.

Nah, let him die.

Blowfish

And my hope for Jinbe to join the crew has all but died. I highly doubt he'll be joining the crew now. Not doing a heel face turn ,just have a hard time seeing a situation where he could join again without it being awkward.

IceBorg

We are done for a little while

Jabra

@IceBorg:

We are done for a little while

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwxi9ug50d1qa0tr9o1_500.jpg

This is so touching and awesome.

Robby

@MasterKingJC:

Oda really knows how to cock tease a fanbase.

So, Jinbe's just going let the Straw Hats deal with Big Mom alone?
I guess that shows you how much faith he has in Luffy already.

No, Jinbe's going there directly and first. Luffy is going off to have fun on random islands.

Luffy will catch up later after Jinbe is in a bad spot as a result.

@Blowfish:

And my hope for Jinbe to join the crew has all but died. I highly doubt he'll be joining the crew now. Not doing a heel face turn ,just have a hard time seeing a situation where he could join again without it being awkward.

They've already agreed to meet up and rejoin once Jinbe has done his business with Big Mom.

Which will become Luffy's business.

The entire crew accepts and likes him, and this gives them a little more time to establish themselves in the new world as their own power, rather than just "that crew with a warlord on it." Not to mention the next crew member doesn't have to outdo that level of reputation.

If it paces like Crocodile did, we'll have 2 or 3 small island adventures for the next year or so, (Like Whiskey Peak, Little Garden and Drum) and then it'll go into a big year long thing with Big Mom (like Alabasta) after being built up all along the way.

TimeSkipLuffy

Some people forget that joining the SH does not necessarily mean the crew itself.
Like Whitebeard other Captains just sail under the WB flag. I am glad Jinbe didn't join the crew itself but hope he will have his own boat and crew and fight alongside Luffy and his crew later on.

GetsugaZoro

@Cyan:

Can't wait until we get to the New World proper and morons go back to supporting any character that interacts with the Strawhats for crewmate

Cannot fucking wait

:D, its a whole new adventure!!!!!!!!!

I'm expecting:

Boobs for nakama
Boobs for nakama
Random character for nakama because of its design
New rapist/murderer for nakama
Boobs for nakama
Actual candidate(only a few people like it at first)
Boobs for nakama
etc

@Blowfish:

And my hope for Jinbe to join the crew has all but died. I highly doubt he'll be joining the crew now. Not doing a heel face turn ,just have a hard time seeing a situation where he could join again without it being awkward.

Why? how its set up now by Oda, I don't see any awkwardness in the future joining, I'm actually seeing a really cool scene but I don't write or talk about fanfictons.

@TimeSkipLuffy:

Some people forget that joining the SH does not necessarily mean the crew itself.
Like Whitebeard other Captains just sail under the WB flag. I am glad Jinbe didn't join the crew itself but hope he will have his own boat and crew and fight alongside Luffy and his crew later on.

No that is called being an ally, that will eventually happen with other characters/crews but doesn't mean they belong to Luffy crew, they are his allies.

ponx

@TimeSkipLuffy:

Some people forget that joining the SH does not necessarily mean the crew itself.
Like Whitebeard other Captains just sail under the WB flag. I am glad Jinbe didn't join the crew itself but hope he will have his own boat and crew and fight alongside Luffy and his crew later on.

Umm no, Jinbe will eventually be on-board the Sunny so he won't be sailing on his own ship anymore. If anyone, its u who r forgetting. Whitebeard has his own crew and his own rules, that doesn't mean every single pirate crew out there will follow the same pattern

Silverblade

@RobbyBevard:

Luffy will catch up later after Jinbe is in a bad spot as a result.

Luffy will find Jinbe's scantily clad body chained to Big Mom's throne being constantly forced to dance for his new master's pleasure.

That's a regretful prospect.

Crocodyne

@Blowfish:

And my hope for Jinbe to join the crew has all but died. I highly doubt he'll be joining the crew now. Not doing a heel face turn ,just have a hard time seeing a situation where he could join again without it being awkward.

Look, the whole situation between Big Mom and the Sun Pirates is planned to be a way for Jinbe to come back in the story and finally join without it being really awkward. It would've been worse if they'd left the island without explaining this important connection.
I get this kind of vibe by looking at it. It's just a matter of time.

@Silverblade:

Luffy will find Jinbe's scantily clad body chained to Big Mom's throne being constantly forced to dance for his new master's pleasure.
That's a regretful prospect.

This sounds like Pixiv material.

dasia

skips through thread with a torch No need to wait for the horizons of the New World to be in sight gentlefolks it is obvious the next nakamate has already boarded the sunny,
forget Jinbei.

Halfmetal-lich

I now place my flag in "The Crew is complete" camp.

Kishido

Well over 1000 pages now and brennen isn't around

StrawHatJedi

I think this might be the start of another "joining phase" for the crew.

First wave, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, and Sanji joined one after another.

Chopper and Robin both joined in close proximity (technically Vivi as well) in the start of the Grand Line.

Then the crew went a long time before Franky followed shortly by Brook.

Now in the beginning of the New World I expect we'll see a couple members joining the crew….Jimbei obviously. I expect Vivi's return when Reverie occurs. I think if this follows the same trend as Baroque Works (yeah, I think it's heading that way; A few islands before getting to a battle with Big Mom), then perhaps someone will join in that time much like Chopper on the way to Alabasta.

The thing is, I think this arc will come full circle back to Fishman Island possibly. Luffy battles most major villains a few times before prevailing. Their battle is over Fishman Island...and I have a feeling that they may return to FI for the final showdown with Big Mom which will result in Luffy destroying the island for good, fulfilling his promise to Shirahoshi in bringing her to the surface, Noah fulfilling it's role on the promised day etc.

I agree that Jimbei is going to try to stand up to Big Mom which will put he and his crew in a predicament that Luffy will face.

It actually makes sense this way...say this takes enough time for Reverie to get started....time for Vivi to re-join with the crew.

The only other crew member idea I had was back in 2006 XD Smoker. I do NOT think this will happen, but I do still like the idea of an ex-marine Straw Hat.

Basically, Jimbei joining, Vivi returning possibly (in order to save Alabasta from the militant Marines under Akainu?, another member in the interim between FI and the battle with Big Mom, and we'll see). I don't think the crew is complete yet. Oda indicated otherwise in Data Book Green. I would be fine with just Jimbei and Vivi though.

Shift

@Vongola_Boss_XI:

Basically, Jimbei joining, Vivi returning possibly (in order to save Alabasta from the militant Marines under Akainu?, another member in the interim between FI and the battle with Big Mom, and we'll see). I don't think the crew is complete yet. Oda indicated otherwise in Data Book Green. I would be fine with just Jimbei and Vivi though.

Look, I know you enjoy Vivi and her place in the crew's hearts, I do too. But anything involving Vivi actually rejoining the crew as an active member just seems like wishful thinking to me. It's pretty evident from the Decks of the World story that if anything changed about her, it wasn't her fighting ability. And if the rest of the crew, who she already couldn't really match up against, needed two years of non-stop training just to enter the New World, what makes you think Vivi, in any way, would be just as ready for it as they are?

Bloel

@Vongola_Boss_XI:

Basically, Jimbei joining, Vivi returning possibly (in order to save Alabasta from the militant Marines under Akainu?, another member in the interim between FI and the battle with Big Mom, and we'll see). I don't think the crew is complete yet. Oda indicated otherwise in Data Book Green. I would be fine with just Jimbei and Vivi though.

completely agree with you that the crew aint complete yet but I'm a tad sceptical about Vivi. Few reasons; the first being that I don't think she's strong enough to survive the new world (she was around weakling trio strength in Alabasta and i don't see being queen of a country involving daily combat training, so it's more than likely that the difference in combat ability between her and the rest of the crew is too big), secondly i dont really see how Vivi can ensure the safety of her people against marines by joining a pirate crew. I can hear the counter-arguments of she joined baroque Works (and the SHs) for similar reasons but I see BW as a different case primarily because she now seems to a much more public figure in the alabasta regime then she was 2 years ago. I see Vivi as a notable friend but as for joining the crew i think that its very unlikely. Vivi's dream/purpose seems to be the ensuring the protection of her people and I see her best serving that as a their monarch.

Silverblade

@Crocodyne:

This sounds like Pixiv material.

Return of the Jedi isn't a popular fanart motif on pixiv, I'm afraid.

rubia_ryu

Honestly, Oda's so-called "tease" is quite the successful compromise. Fans and haters alike can accept a result like this without too much complaint.*

As for where I stand, I've really been quite adamant against him for the chance to celebrate "victory" more than anything, even though I had long and gladly accepted him as a potential crewmate. But now I settle in disappointment that the Fishman Island arc has ended ~~and that the levels of disappointment from eager fans isn't as great as I'd hoped for~~. Goodbye and good riddance to those annoying, whining forum arguments; greetings to the advent of the New World!

From this point on, I'm turning to the SBS for subtle clues. Hooray for super-floaty wood!

Blowfish

I really hope you guys are right about Jinbe. The worse part is this situation is completely unique ,we've never seen a character literally promise to join later,so we have nothing to draw a comparison with. By the way that scene with Luffy& Jinbe at the end of this recent chapter was really intense to me ,a simple nod and a "yeah" just a silent understanding between Commrades and if everything goes how some of you suspect then it has me REALLY excited for the confrontation with BiG Mom and her crew.

Also,I'm assuming another female Nakama will join the crew before Jinbe ultimately joins thus making him the 10th.

Kishido

@Blowfish:

I really hope you guys are right about Jinbe. The worse part is this situation is completely unique ,we've never seen a character literally promise to join later,so we have nothing to draw a comparison with. By the way that scene with Luffy& Jinbe at the end of this recent chapter was really intense to me ,a simple nod and a "yeah" just a silent understanding between Commrades and if everything goes how some of you suspect then it has me REALLY excited for the confrontation with BiG Mom and her crew.

Also,I'm assuming another female Nakama will join the crew before Jinbe ultimately joins thus making him the 10th.

Well maybe this is Oda's way this time… Maybe wants to let the SHs get their own rep in the own world (higher bounties, even stronger and such) before the Shichibukai with an over 400 million bounty will join and overshine the others.

Yeah for most of us it wasn't a problem but some people like for example me (about monster trio) had some doubts... And with this "join later" Oda cleared all the stuff.

I bet the Big Mom fight will be epic and touching as well and after all most of us were right, that he will join. Luffy asked, he said more or less OK.

The only little problem which is left... What will happen to his crew after the fight... They still can't return to FI while Jinbe is sailing with Luffy

Maki707

@Vongola_Boss_XI:

I think this might be the start of another "joining phase" for the crew.

idk about this Jinbe situation but yeah, I would expect the next one soon. As in within the next 2 arcs.
And the other one not long after that.
Assuming 2 left to join.

Zephray

Kizaru, anyone? He's always liked the Straw Hats.

Can't believe Smoker is a vice-admiral. But here's a question:

Why is Smoker still chasing Luffy? He knows he saved Alabasta AND Fishmen Island. Why would he chase him now?
It'd be awesome if he and Tashigi joined, but so very unlikely.

Jinbei promised to join. So if Big Mom doesn't kill him, I'm quite sure he'll join. Nothing short of death will stop a promise between Jinbei and Luffy.

And for whatever reason, I assumed Big Mom would be the next villain. I saw the end of this arc as a segway into the next (as all arcs usually do). But I could see them showing Big Mom opening the explosion chest right after another smaller arc, and that be the lead in.

…hmmm. I would certainly enjoiy a short arc. We haven't had one of those in forever.

Blowfish

@KiShiDo:

The only little problem which is left… What will happen to his crew after the fight... They still can't return to FI while Jinbe is sailing with Luffy

Oda had Neptune close off the Fishman District for a reason…

Kishido

Could be a possibility who knows… And I think it won't be much of a problem. But still it is there till than

dasia

@Zephray:

Why is Smoker still chasing Luffy? He knows he saved Alabasta AND Fishmen Island. Why would he chase him now?

"Remember Tashigi, Once a pirate always a pirate" or something like that(Alabasta arc) Kizaru,Smoker and Tashigi are not joining the crew.
Endgame allies more probable for the last two.

Edit:Quote is much cooler than that. Guess he enjoys the kicks he gets out of this worthy rivalry too.

StrawHatJedi

Smoker definitely will be an end-series ally. I just like the idea of an ex-marine because it would highlight the shift in Marine ideology under Akainu. I'm not suggesting Smoker joining though. It was really just an "oh wouldn't that be cool, he's kinda just like them…and close enough to being a pirate" back in Alabasta

Vivi...I know it's wishful thinking. I just get the feeling she will be important in the New World. She showed up in the post-war arc reading the news paper and commenting on Luffy's tattoo which only the other SHs picked up on. She saw what Luffy went through at Marineford and she still feels part of the crew...and asked "if we meet again, will you call me your shipmate?" To which the crew agreed with the X mark. I just feel like Vivi will sail with the crew after Raftel at least...but I would like to see her be there when they land at the end of the Grand Line.

Drake_Cloud

@KiShiDo:

The only little problem which is left… What will happen to his crew after the fight... They still can't return to FI while Jinbe is sailing with Luffy

Are we sure? They'll most likely be safe from pirate attacks (since FI would be Luffy's turf at that point and his name would carry alot of weight). I don't think the WG would be willing to go after them on FI either, since they're basically low-level pirates who mean next to nothing in the grand scheme of things.

That would only leave upsetting FI's political position, but considering how unimportant they really are it might not even do that. If the WG really cared, Neptune could just "imprison" them somewhere on the island like a form of house arrest (they do handle their own criminal system). Maybe even the Fishman district if necessary.

Robby

@Zephray:

Why is Smoker still chasing Luffy? He knows he saved Alabasta AND Fishmen Island. Why would he chase him now?
It'd be awesome if he and Tashigi joined, but so very unlikely.

Sure, but he's also fought and wounded countless marines, declared war on the government, punched a world noble, staged an unprecedented jailbreak of the worst criminals in the world, sided with other major criminals during the war, has King's Ambition, a crew capable of mass destruction when challenged, is building alliances with other threatening powers (Supernovas, revolutionaries, shichibukai, entire countries) is the son of Dragon (the most wanted man in the world!) and brother to the son of Roger, has taken out two shichibukai, has escaped capture dozens of times, and is harboring Nico Robin who singlehandedly could destroy the world with her ability to read ponyglyphs.

Luffy is a creature of instinct and Smoker knows it. He does good deeds when they suit his mood, but he's equally capable of causing massive havoc when his ideals are challenged.

KaiPirinha

@Vongola_Boss_XI:

Smoker definitely will be an end-series ally. I just like the idea of an ex-marine because it would highlight the shift in Marine ideology under Akainu. I'm not suggesting Smoker joining though. It was really just an "oh wouldn't that be cool, he's kinda just like them…and close enough to being a pirate" back in Alabasta

Vivi...I know it's wishful thinking. I just get the feeling she will be important in the New World. She showed up in the post-war arc reading the news paper and commenting on Luffy's tattoo which only the other SHs picked up on. She saw what Luffy went through at Marineford and she still feels part of the crew...and asked "if we meet again, will you call me your shipmate?" To which the crew agreed with the X mark. I just feel like Vivi will sail with the crew after Raftel at least...but I would like to see her be there when they land at the end of the Grand Line.

I think Vivi will be important to the plot, but she won't join. We will see her, she will help the crew, but will never sail with them.

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P.S.: Can we start to speculate about the 10th nakama? Or is better to wait the new thread?

Md-Martin

Kinda disapointed he wouldn't leave with the crew, but we know that this part of the story will be addressed pretty quick in comparison to other things.

Zik

Thank Oda Jinbe isn't on the crew.

Shift

@Zik:

Thank Oda Jinbe isn't on the crew.

You forgot to add "yet". There's still Big Mom to take care of, or have you forgotten?

GetsugaZoro

@KaiPirinha:

I think Vivi will be important to the plot, but she won't join. We will see her, she will help the crew, but will never sail with them.

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P.S.: Can we start to speculate about the 10th nakama? Or is better to wait the new thread?

We don't have anything yet to speculate.

Yan

@Shift:

You forgot to add "yet". There's still Big Mom to take care of, or have you forgotten?

And yourself, "possibly". Nothing's final until Oda deems it so.

Personally, I'd love it if we were introduced to another fish/merman that we weren't all that well acquainted with, with their own sad past and dreams, to become a permanent crew member.

Robby

@Zik:

Thank Oda Jinbe isn't on the crew.

Yes he is.

He just isn't on the boat yet.

Shift

@Yan:

And yourself, "possibly". Nothing's final until Oda deems it so.

Personally, I'd love it if we were introduced to another fish/merman that we weren't all that well acquainted with, with their own sad past and dreams, to become a permanent crew member.

Yeah, I guess it's entirely possible for them to bypass Big Mom completely and ignore Luffy's declaration of war on her. Also possible that the casket really won't blow up and make her even angrier. Totally possible.

goty

@Shift:

Yeah, I guess it's entirely possible for them to bypass Big Mom completely and ignore Luffy's declaration of war on her. Also possible that the casket really won't blow up and make her even angrier. Totally possible.

..and none of those events effectively means Jinbe will get on board, sorry.

Shift

@goty:

..and none of those events effectively means Jinbe will get on board, sorry.

…Must I bring out the collage again? Must I?

My only point is that no one can say he won't join based on the fact that he isn't on the ship right this minute. It's clear that Jinbe wants to get his crew out from under Big Mom's thumb sooner rather than later. It's clear that Luffy is destined to meet her, for good or for ill. Only the outcome is uncertain, so there will be no celebrating one way or the other until the issue Big Mom presents, both with having it out for Luffy and having the old Sun's Pirates under her command, is dealt with.

onemoment

I look forward to Jimbe's return to the story, it's blatantly foreshadowed. The guy can swim anywhere he wants, has connections in the New World, and can wallop anyone who slows him down. I can see a last page of him in the future, jumping out of the water to save the day. It'll probably happen in an arc where his presence isn't such an overwhelming advantage to the crew.

Cymelion

@Shift:

…Must I bring out the collage again? Must I?
My only point is that no one can say he won't join based on the fact that he isn't on the ship right this minute. It's clear that Jinbe wants to get his crew out from under Big Mom's thumb sooner rather than later. It's clear that Luffy is destined to meet her, for good or for ill. Only the outcome is uncertain, so there will be no celebrating one way or the other until the issue Big Mom presents, both with having it out for Luffy and having the old Sun's Pirates under her command, is dealt with.

Unless he is killed - which is a possibility.

Shift

@Cymelion:

Unless he is killed - which is a possibility.

Yep. Killed. Just like Pel-do you see where I'm going with this?

Seriously, Ace and Whitebeard are the exceptions, not the rule. I wouldn't be surprised if even the fake Straw Hats pulled themselves out of the dirt for a cover story sometime soon. So don't even try to carve Jinbe's marker just because Hachi's out of the picture.

MasterKingJC

And as we speak, high level assassins are being sent to Fishman Island to take out Jinbe.

chibi15

Vivi being a PRINCESS THAT LOVES HER COUNTRY won't ever travel with the strawhats!! She has her duties to attend to, especially in the latest cover-arc, Kobra (her father) is sick so she will overtake his position and become a QUEEN of Alabasta.

But she definitely will aid the strawhats when the time comes and she will be shown at least at the all so important WG meeting.

Jinbe will come probably 2-3 arcs later to travel along with them. I'm glad Oda made him stay at FI now so we get to explore the strengths of the current strawhats!

StrawHatJedi

Don't say never. I know it's not likely, but possible? Yes.

Consider that Vivi DID leave her country before in order to save Alabasta. She would do the same again if saving Alabasta meant sailing with the Straw Hats. Consider that the World Government is looking for the ancient weapons - one of which is burried in Alabasta. Now the marines are becoming increasingly militant under Akainu's leadership. The WG is going to be the big central villainous organization. They destroyed Ohara, they let the Celestial Dragons run wild, etc. Something very bad could happen to Alabasta at the hands of the World Government.