So, it seems like this thread survives another week…...Bah.
Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)
-
-
I love how the anti Jinbe people will celebrate, except that its essentially been confirmed that he will join at some point
-
So, it seems like this thread survives another week…...Bah.
No, this thread will probably survive another year or so.
-
it is almost became an endless tunnel, one day he or she will…..
-
No, this thread will probably survive another year or so.
yeah theres still the chance that more then 10 people will join, also after this chapter shirahoshi join seems quite possible
-
No, this thread will probably survive another year or so.
This may, in fact, be true.
Enters depression
-
Here we go again…
-
This may, in fact, be true.
Enters depression
as for Jinbe,about 6 days ago,I did mention ….how strong is the possiblity that Jinbe will refuse the invitation first then later under the effect of some unknown plot or scenario,he eventually accept the offer?
and one question still remain–--when will the past history relevant to that lightning-shaped scar to be narrated and in which way that narration will reinforce Jinbe's "Joining Isuue" if he indeed is Oda's choice?
-
Jimbe is going on a trip, to find a personality!
rage @ me Jimbe fanboys :D
-
Here we go again…
No need, Jinbe accepted, he will eventually join at the end of the arc or later, he can be considered one of them already since the entire crew accepted him, now or later he is a SH already lol.
as for Jinbe,about 6 days ago,I did mention ….how strong is the possiblity that Jinbe will refuse the invitation first then later under the effect of some unknown plot or scenario,he eventually accept the offer?
and one question still remain–--when will the past history relevant to that lightning-shaped scar to be narrated and in which way that narration will reinforce Jinbe's "Joining Isuue" if he indeed is Oda's choice?
A lot of said that, but we though he would join after Luffy convinces him, I want to know what he has to do before joining, curious, might be related to his dream.
-
Basically everyone in the crew wants him to join but he must first do something and he has to honor his position´s duty. I seriously wonder what kind of position that can be. The only possible choice remaining is that he really was with his crew for 2 years and only came back to Fishman Island to meet Luffy. That means he has to go back to them and find a solution for their future living circumstances.
-
A better question is what the duty is that Jinbe has to fulfill. We'll find out soon enough but if it's something like finding the old Fishman Pirates…that should take awhile unless Oda decides to conveniently have them all show up.
It can be argued that this really is turning into another Vivi situation. "And they did say if they ever meet again she'll be accepted as a crew member". But Jinbe was given a gold coin by Toei. He's in, and it's probably going to be sooner rather than later.
The real question is whether this thread will keep trying to limit to 20,000 posts under this thread. Given the rate this thread's going and since Jinbe's most likely not going to be joining for another few weeks...don't think a new thread is necessary though. Not yet. my 2 cents anyways
-
Difference between Vivi and Jinbe though is that Jinbe basically said as soon as he wraps up a few loose ends he'll join. Vivi knows that the situation wouldn't allow for her to become a pirate, since her duty is essentially life long. Vivi gave an if statement, Jinbe gave a promise. Not to mention how after that all the SHs said they were going to wait for him to join
-
Jinbei will join in one of the next arcs
-
Basically everyone in the crew wants him to join but he must first do something and he has to honor his position´s duty. I seriously wonder what kind of position that can be. The only possible choice remaining is that he really was with his crew for 2 years and only came back to Fishman Island to meet Luffy. That means he has to go back to them and find a solution for their future living circumstances.
His crew was pardoned though, I don't see a reason for them to have problems living in the isle, specially now that Neptune just said that all Fishman can live in the fishman island, why cant they just go there like the others? the criminals are there why can't they?
The joining is confirmed though he promised he will later meet with them all and if Luffy wants him at that time, he will join them, atleast according to mangareader translation.
-
Jinbe WILL join.
And this is coming from a former anti-Jinbe advocate who literally said the opposite thing a few months ago.
Oda is just going to finally give him the proper build up for him to become inducted into the crew. There's no way Oda set up this whole arc, especially with the end not to have Jinbe inevitably join. And look at the way the whole crew regards him, he'd be perfect. An old soldier who is also an exotic species? Totally fits in with the rest of the band of misfits that is the Straw Hat pirates.
Personally I'm hoping that Oda is taking this time and opportunity to show us a more personalized flashback and a more specific dream for Jinbe. Also, please bring back Aladdin!
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Difference between Vivi and Jinbe though is that Jinbe basically said as soon as he wraps up a few loose ends he'll join. Vivi knows that the situation wouldn't allow for her to become a pirate, since her duty is essentially life long. Vivi gave an if statement, Jinbe gave a promise. Not to mention how after that all the SHs said they were going to wait for him to join
YES, QFT. Vivi basically said she HOPED she could join again one day. Jinbe said he WOULD join.
-
His crew was pardoned though, I don't see a reason for them to have problems living in the isle, specially now that Neptune just said that all Fishman can live in the fishman island, why cant they just go there like the others? the criminals are there why can't they?
The Sun Pirates were pardoned because of the World Government's agreement since Jinbe became a Shichibukai. That pardon probably isn't in effect since he stepped down, so it's dangerous for Fishman Island to hold slaves owned by the Celestrial Dragons.
-
Seriously WTF is this?
Let us think he is still the captain of a crew? So how in hell can he say he later on I will join when my duty is done?
Seriously WTF is this shit Oda? At least you could say his duty
Only good thing is… if he joins later there would be no dicussions about the monster trio anymore. Cuz at a later date they should have evolved about Jinbei's level
-
Question is what will happen to shirahoshi, not saying she is joining. But for the very first time after reading this chapter I don't think it would be a good idea for her to stay.
I think the gorousei know about the void century and if they're catching wind on her situation I could be pretty bad for the fishmen folks.
-
@ultimateclima:
The Sun Pirates were pardoned because of the World Government's agreement since Jinbe became a Shichibukai. That pardon probably isn't in effect since he stepped down, so it's dangerous for Fishman Island to hold slaves owned by the Celestrial Dragons.
I don't know if they really took the trouble of making all those guys wanted again just because of Jinbe, unless he did meet them and they knew he was associated with them but yes he might be talking his duty as a captain, well we will eventually know what it is.
Question is what will happen to shirahoshi, not saying she is joining. But for the very first time after reading this chapter I don't think it would be a good idea for her to stay.
I think the gorousei know about the void century and if they're catching wind on her situation I could be pretty bad for the fishmen folks.
Well I don't if someone else besides the king knows she is Poseidon but yes if she is aknowledge to be that by the marines she cant stay there, she is still huge and unless Oda did something about, made her be able to battle instead of pokemon sea monster battles she coudl have a chance but Luffy hasn't even expressed any desire to have her in the crew as of now.
I can still see Noah getting repairing, the island still being destroyed, the guy with the hat destroying it, being it Luffy or whoever(a new marine or something) and she would still have to leave the island due to that but not with the SHs.
Anyway I don't think this chapter raised her stock at all, still due to all the old reasons that haven't changed.
I still believe something will happen to the island so we will see in the future chapter, this chapter definetly got me interested.
-
Jimbe goes away to fufill his duty.
"Don't worry Luffy, I will join when we meet again"
Jimbe dies on his way to fufill his duty.
-
Difference between Vivi and Jinbe though is that Jinbe basically said as soon as he wraps up a few loose ends he'll join. Vivi knows that the situation wouldn't allow for her to become a pirate, since her duty is essentially life long. Vivi gave an if statement, Jinbe gave a promise. Not to mention how after that all the SHs said they were going to wait for him to join
@Preston:
YES, QFT. Vivi basically said she HOPED she could join again one day. Jinbe said he WOULD join.
I find the semantics irrelevant given the gist is the same in both but if you two say so.
-
I don't get it… Why not saying what his position si or what his duty is?
If he is a captain why is he talking that he may join later?
-
I don't know if they really took the trouble of making all those guys wanted again just because of Jinbe, unless he did meet them and they knew he was associated with them but yes he might be talking his duty as a captain, well we will eventually know what it is.
Well I don't if someone else besides the king knows she is Poseidon but yes if she is aknowledge to be that by the marines she cant stay there, she is still huge and unless Oda did something about, made her be able to battle instead of pokemon sea monster battles she coudl have a chance but Luffy hasn't even expressed any desire to have her in the crew as of now.
I can still see Noah getting repairing, the island still being destroyed, the guy with the hat destroying it, being it Luffy or whoever(a new marine or something) and she would still have to leave the island due to that but not with the SHs.
Anyway I don't think this chapter raised her stock at all, still due to all the old reasons that haven't changed.
I still believe something will happen to the island so we will see in the future chapter, this chapter definetly got me interested.
I agree, also I just noticed I posted in the wrong thread ^^ this should go in the chapter discussion thread since I also don't think that the chances of her joining have gone up.
-
@ultimateclima:
I find the semantics irrelevant given the gist is the same in both but if you two say so.
Basically it comes down to if we meet again, ask me again and if I'm done with my duty I'll say yes. In essense it's the same given Vivi would if she didn't feel like she has an obligation to her country.
And she asked because she wasn't sure if the crew would still want her in the crew in the future.
-
I don't get it… Why not saying what his position si or what his duty is?
If he is a captain why is he talking that he may join later?
Because Luffy isn't like that, if it was Nami or Robin she probably would have asked what his duty was but Luffy doesn't care, he said he accepted and will join later and that is enough for simple minded Luffy lol.
Like I said I don't know about the whole crew thing, it might be related to that but they don't want to be pirates, so unless he wants to get them to safety or something, I think its something else.
@ultimateclima:
I find the semantics irrelevant given the gist is the same in both but if you two say so.
Not really Vive says it is impossible to her due to her duties, which will never end since she is the princess and in charge of her country eventually, specially with her father sick now.
Jinbe says he will just fulfill his duty and then join them, its not semantics to me its clear cut diferent situation, Vive simply can't join without abandoning her people, she even fulfulied her own "dream" of getting her country back with the help of the SHs.
-
I don't get it… Why not saying what his position si or what his duty is?
If he is a captain why is he talking that he may join later?
how about if Aladdin and others captured by WG and imprison somewhere?
-
@ultimateclima:
I find the semantics irrelevant given the gist is the same in both but if you two say so.
Actually the semantics in this case implicate a heavy difference in the gist as you call it.
But that comes from someone who takes meaning of words and sentences pretty seriously which Oda on the other might not be as serious about. -
how about if Aladdin and others captured by WG and imprison somewhere?
Wouldn't be wise for Jinbe to go alone to save them imo and I don't want the SHs in another rescue arc, aka save Jinbe and his crew.
-
how about if Aladdin and others captured by WG and imprison somewhere?
Yeah and Jinbei will break them free on his own… I get it, that he won't join now most likely... but Oda could at least tell the details and not such strange explanation
-
@ultimateclima:
A better question is what the duty is that Jinbe has to fulfill.
This.
Personally, I'm not disappointed by the whole situation. I expected him to initially decline the offer simply because there wasn't during this arc a solid "joining buildup" (personal flashback, backstory, whenever).
I'm just disappointed because he didn't care to explain in what this "duty" consists. -
Booo hoooo all jinbei fanatics .. LOL
next time they meet, maybe he will get killed or something and luffy will get the revenge … i 100% about that ^^v.
-
This.
Personally, I'm not disappointed by the whole situation. I expected him to initially decline the offer simply because there wasn't during this arc a solid "joining buildup" (personal flashback, backstory, whenever).
I'm just disappointed because he didn't care to explain in what this "duty" consists.Yeah I'm even a bit pissed off. Oda could have explained it… and not after some arcs he will come back and say "Hey now I'm free and flashback"... And if it is really about his "gang" he could simpy say it... Dunno don't like the handling
At least the monster trio will stay forever now
-
Pretty sure his duty has something to do with the whole former New Fishman members now are among the other citizens of the island, so he must lead then the right way, something that all others that came before him failed.
-
Pretty sure his duty has something to do with the whole former New Fishman members now are among the other citizens of the island, so he must lead then the right way, something that all others that came before him failed.
He said the position he left was temporary and he would have to go back so it hasn't nothing to do with the new guys, maybe with his old crew but not the NFP.
-
This.
Personally, I'm not disappointed by the whole situation. I expected him to initially decline the offer simply because there wasn't during this arc a solid "joining buildup" (personal flashback, backstory, whenever).
I'm just disappointed because he didn't care to explain in what this "duty" consists.I agree with this. This will probably just lead up to a proper Jinbe joining arc which this one wasn't at all.
-
He said the position he left was temporary and he would have to go back so it hasn't nothing to do with the new guys, maybe with his old crew but not the NFP.
And than? Will he say in the future… fuck you crew I'm joining the SHs now?
-
Wouldn't be wise for Jinbe to go alone to save them imo and I don't want the SHs in another rescue arc, aka save Jinbe and his crew.
first,just as I am talking fantasy
he is "knight"(海侠),is he likely to ask straw hats or others to rescue his crew? he may want peaceful life for Aladdin and others,if they are suffering at this moment becuase Jinbe's "betrayal" to the WG.
I did say …captured by WG and imprison somewhere.. –-- what if this "somewhere" means Mariejois?
-
Maybe he just needs to take a trip to tigers grave. Leaving some last words or something. But yeah that would be pretty shallow in a way.
Would make it seem like that Oda is deliberatly trolling us. -
He said the position he left was temporary and he would have to go back so it hasn't nothing to do with the new guys, maybe with his old crew but not the NFP.
Yeah you are right, totally missed that part.
Heh I still think he will join at the end of this arc, I would be fully disappointed if that didn't happen, unless his duty has something to do with a future arc, it would be dumb for him to appear in random arc in a deus ex kinda way and "hey can join now please?".
-
Not really Vivi says it is impossible to her due to her duties, which will never end since she is the princess and in charge of her country eventually, specially with her father sick now.
Jinbe says he will just fulfill his duty and then join them, its not semantics to me its clear cut diferent situation, Vive simply can't join without abandoning her people, she even fulfulied her own "dream" of getting her country back with the help of the SHs.
Actually the semantics in this case implicate a heavy difference in the gist as you call it.
But that comes from someone who takes meaning of words and sentences pretty seriously which Oda on the other might not be as serious about.Don't want to argue this…Vivi asked if Luffy and co. would consider her a crewmate if they met again and Luffy and co. gave their approval.
Jinbe requests Luffy to be invited again if they meet and the crew gives their approval.
And given we're only spectulating on what his duties are...
And CCC's posts agree with the trans so ignore this.
-
And than? Will he say in the future… fuck you crew I'm joining the SHs now?
Like I said his CREW don't want to be pirates, he does.
They can leave in Fishman island now, rules have changed, if he goes to get them wherever they are and dismiss them from the crew to let them live a peacefull live his duty will be done.
Do you really think he wont meet Luffy again even though he just promised? lol… he will eventually join or like I said last week if he doesn't eventually join Oda just wrecked the scene completelly instead of partially.
Ultimateclima, rubia just said his translation this week wasn't that good and Mangazone one seems correct, plus CCC translated it also like Mangazone.
-
Well Oda would make him a big idiot saying now at the end "OK I thought about it and join now"
Well first time I really dissapointed in Oda… he could explain it probably like with Vivi in the past
--- Update From New Post Merge ---
Like I said his CREW don't want to be pirates, he does.
They can leave in Fishman island now, rules have changed, if he goes to get them wherever they are and dismiss them from the crew to let them live a peacefull live his duty will be done.
Do you really think he wont meet Luffy again even though he just promised? lol… he will eventually join or like I said last week if he doesn't eventually join Oda just wrecked the scene completelly instead of partially.
What rules have changed that they can live at Fishmen Island?
-
I really, really don't think this arc is over, and Jinbe will join at the end of it.
There are still plenty of loose elements to finish up, I think there will be a second major part to the arc.
-
Well Oda would make him a big idiot saying now at the end "OK I thought about it and join now"
Well first time I really dissapointed in Oda… he could explain it probably like with Vivi in the past
--- Update From New Post Merge ---
What rules have changed that they can live at Fishmen Island?
Neptune just accepted a shitload of criminals in his army, like I said we don't know if the old FP are wanted or not if they aren't as the situation is right now, there is no reason for them not to live in peace like they want to.
The arc hasn't ended wait for it Kishido, like I said they didn't want to mess with it but we will probably get what Jinbe meant by that before the arc is over.
Wait before it ends before saying you are disapointed if you saw my post last week you know I'm not happy with the situation either.
Iceborg not like that but appearing helping the SHs and Luffy asking him again sure.
-
Well first time I really dissapointed in Oda… he could explain it probably like with Vivi in the past
It'll be revealed. Just not now. Most likely next chapter. If not then before they leave Fishman Island if Jinbe hasn't already joined them by then, probably.
@Getsuga Neptune invited outlaws from the Fishman District but they might not be Wanted by the World Government.
-
Well Oda would make him a big idiot saying now at the end "OK I thought about it and join now"
Well first time I really dissapointed in Oda… he could explain it probably like with Vivi in the past
well if JInbe indeed is Oda's choice(the fact: Vivi is not),then it could not be "explained probably like with Vivi"(as far as I concern)
-
well if JInbe indeed is Oda's choice(the fact: Vivi is not),then it could not be "explained probably like with Vivi"(as far as I concern)
Yup it can be explained later when he actually joins if he doesn't, well Oda screwed up lol, not that I have any doubt that he will join :D that is why I'm not overeacting.
@ultimateclima:
It'll be revealed. Just not now. Most likely next chapter. If not then before they leave Fishman Island if Jinbe hasn't already joined them by then, probably.
@Getsuga Neptune invited outlaws from the Fishman District but they might not be Wanted by the World Government.
Like I said as far as we know, the old FP aren't either.
-
@GetsugaZoro: There is a difference between the criminals of NFP and the old slaves of the Sun Pirates. The New Fishman Pirates are/were criminals regarding the law in Ryuugu Kingdom but the Sun Pirates were world-known pirates. But even that wouldn´t be a reason for the marine to especially look for them because they aren´t pirates anymore. The biggest problem is that most of the Sun Pirates were former slaves of the Tenryuubito and they are basically looked at as stolen property and we know how the marines have to fully obey the Tenryuubito, that´s why they can´t live on Fishman Island because they would disrupt Neptune´s attempt to make a case for immigration at the reverie.
-
Neptune just accepted a shitload of criminals in his army, like I said we don't know if the old FP are wanted or not if they aren't as the situation is right now, there is no reason for them not to live in peace like they want to.
The arc hasn't ended wait for it Kishido, like I said they didn't want to mess with it but we will probably get what Jinbe meant by that before the arc is over.
Wait before it ends before saying you are disapointed if you saw my post last week you know I'm not happy with the situation either.
Iceborg not like that but appearing helping the SHs and Luffy asking him again sure.
Difference… The NFP where fishmen island enemies and the WG knew absolutely nothing about that fodder...
And if Jinbei and his friends CAN'T stay why can Hatchan chill out there