God this arc will be a long one… This is clear.
Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)
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@RobbyBevard:
This arc is going to be incredibly long, judging from the pacing. We don't even know what the main plot of the arc is yet. The number of themes and ideas in place aren't going to be settled quickly. The heroes are just having their first confrontations with the baddies. They aren't on the final showdowns yet. We haven't even seen a bunch of the locations already hinted at and teased for years, let alone the flashback we're guaranteed to get showing the splititng of the Sun pirates and Fisher Tiger's last stand.
And there's probably a bigger bad waiting in the wings.
Skypeia we didn't even meet Enel until the 17th or 18th chapter of the arc.
Really? I just thought since the past few chapters have been fast paced, Oda might be trying to rush through this arc. My mistake. Hopefully, it won't be too long.
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ahhh Thank you
I had forgotten about that.@RobbyBevard:
This arc is going to be incredibly long, judging from the pacing. We don't even know what the main plot of the arc is yet. The number of themes and ideas in place aren't going to be settled quickly. The heroes are just having their first confrontations with the baddies. They aren't on the final showdowns yet. We haven't even seen a bunch of the locations already hinted at and teased for years, let alone the flashback we're guaranteed to get showing the splititng of the Sun pirates and Fisher Tiger's last stand.
And there's probably a bigger bad waiting in the wings.
Skypeia we didn't even meet Enel until the 17th or 18th chapter of the arc.
I agree with this completely. I am still waiting to see Arlong show up!
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I agree with this completely. I am still waiting to see Arlong show up!
Yeah, why not? Arlong showing up for a rematch would be cool.
naruto was WAY MORE KICKASS after the timeskip
i mean to show his badassness, him and sakura managed to get the bell from kakashi. beating pacifista's is so lame compared to that awesomeness
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Yeah, why not? Arlong showing up for a rematch would be cool.
that would be completely pointless. Nami could solo him by now.
What would Arlong bring that Hodi doesn't?
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I doubt Nami could solo him, at least not easily. Even if she could though it doesn't really matter, as Arlong still has a lot of relavence to the current arc. He's the entire reason Hodi is what he is, remember? Plus there's his history with Jinbei and all that jazz.
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Really? I just thought since the past few chapters have been fast paced, Oda might be trying to rush through this arc. My mistake. Hopefully, it won't be too long.
For as long as Oda has been setting up and teasing this arc, first mentioning it in SBS some 10 years ago and having THREE false "next stop is Fishman island!" bits, and everything already in play a mere, what, 8 chapters in? Its going to be long. At least a year. Maybe two. I'd be amazed if the flashback at the end of the arc was less than 5-8 chapters.
This is going to be Skypiea all over again, which is great.
I agree with this completely. I am still waiting to see Arlong show up!
You'll have to wait for the flashback for that.
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Yeah fuck this thread. Hordy is a bad guy and Zeo to boss to join.
Did I miss it when this flunkie showed even a little bit of nakama material or what?
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I doubt Nami could solo him, at least not easily. Even if she could though it doesn't really matter, as Arlong still has a lot of relavence to the current arc. He's the entire reason Hodi is what he is, remember? Plus there's his history with Jinbei and all that jazz.
I still think Arlong (the person, not his vision and ideas) is irrelevant.
Hodi is what he is due to Arlong, same vision about Fishman/Merman race superiority, with more power and viciousness (even went as far as making his subordinates as shields). So what good will Arlong do in the story? Just enough that Arlong created Hodi is enough.Arlong's relationship with Jimbe can and will be explained through flashbacks, no need for him to appear in the current timeline.
As far as the current chapter goes, Arlong is basically all over the place without even being there physically. And I think thats enough
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@RobbyBevard:
For as long as Oda has been setting up and teasing this arc, first mentioning it in SBS some 10 years ago and having THREE false "next stop is Fishman island!" bits, and everything already in play a mere, what, 8 chapters in? Its going to be long. At least a year. Maybe two. I'd be amazed if the flashback at the end of the arc was less than 5-8 chapters.
The way things are shaping up I would be surprised if there is only one flashback this arc. While I'm sure they're connected somehow, the events which took place ten years ago and the death of Fisher Tiger are not close enough chronologically to make a single fluid fb.
I figure we will probably get a shared fb from Shirahoshi and Jinbe once everyone gathers at the forest of sea. It will give us all the backround info we're missing on Otohime, Arlong and the end of the sunny pirates. Then towards the end of the arc we will get Jinbe's main fb about Fisher Tiger and how he ended up taking over the crew.
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Yeah, why not? Arlong showing up for a rematch would be cool.
You crazy? Arlong would get his ass whooped. It'd be like Luffy KOing Coby in one page.
Arlong: Shahaha! I have returned! To claim my vengeance on you, Straw Hats!
Usopp: Hey, look. It's Arlong…......oh no.:getlost:
Nami: sigh Don't worry. I'll take care of him.
Arlong:Shahahahaha! We meet again, Nami! This time, you'll pay for betraying me back at Cocoyashi! I'll kill you with my own bare ha--!
-gets KO'd by super fast, giant thunderbolt lance tempo-
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@RobbyBevard:
For as long as Oda has been setting up and teasing this arc, first mentioning it in SBS some 10 years ago and having THREE false "next stop is Fishman island!" bits, and everything already in play a mere, what, 8 chapters in? Its going to be long. At least a year. Maybe two. I'd be amazed if the flashback at the end of the arc was less than 5-8 chapters.
This is going to be Skypiea all over again, which is great..
Thank you. I've been waiting for this arc for years, and had to put up with this shit. :getlost: Fuck if Oda makes it a short arc.
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@S.C.:
Did I miss it when this flunkie showed even a little bit of nakama material or what?
Yeah you missed it
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I like how everyone assumes Arlong wouldn't have gotten any stronger since he last saw them… It would be like saying Croc is a weakling because Luffy beat him.
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Arlong won't appear. I bet it.
No need for him of being there
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Why should he be there?
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Arlong will show up later. After the strawhats have cured Fishman Island of it's hate for humans.
Arlong: WTF!?!?!
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Yeah you missed it
Yeah, how could I forget, what his two lines at best, one of which was contempt towards humanity, or his non-showing of any skills thus far, or you know, any interaction with a single Straw Hat thus far, Truly, a first-class candidate.
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Eneru for new nakama. Once he comes off the moon and admits defeat to Luffy again. Or he might play a role like Crocodile did during the war.
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Why should he be there?
You know I could only theorise as to why he would come back - I could fan fic you a ton of reasons. You know full of if's maybe's and just imagine - but lets be honest he has as much chance of not being there as he does turning up.
No I don't mean that in an "anythings possible for Oda" way moreso - he has links to Jinbei, Hodi and Hatchi and the other Sunny Pirates. While Arlong and Nami may have been resolved many many chapters ago - Arlong and his fellow Fishmen have the possibility to be addressed.
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Hodi reveres Arlong. If Arlong changed his ways and came back Hodi might listen to him.
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Hodi reveres Arlong. If Arlong changed his ways and came back Hodi might listen to him.
I don't think Arlong is ever going to get a redemption story - he killed Nami's mother smilling while he did - hard to write that away.
Wow 666 page - quick someone do something evil.
Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
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^ Now I'm in an evil mood.
No one within this arc nor the next one will join.
Really, Arlong already made his appearance in this arc (via flashback, yes, but appeared nonetheless). And with Hodi acting as a sub, I don't feel much need for Arlong to return.
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Exactly, there's no need for Arlong to return. If he did, Oda would have hinted at him escaping jail via newspaper or cover-story or at least someone implying it. There's been nothing of the sort.
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Pell survived because he is a Falcon - Stop using him as a bad example.
The Peregrine Falcon reaches faster speeds than any other animal on the planet when performing the stoop,which involves soaring to a great height and then diving steeply at speeds of over 320 km/h (200 mph)
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And not even Hatchan and Co knowing that… They are talking about Arlong like he is a goner and Hodi even wants to get revange on Luffy. Why if Arlong is fine and alive.
Holy crap you're right I mean I keep forgetting that for over 500 chapters it was common knowledge that Ace was Rogers son. You know because Luffy knew Ace was Rogers son and wouldn't stop talking aboue it. That chapter it was mentioned was so bland because everyone knew by then anyways.
I mean Arlong is only a mentor to Hodi, a Friend to Hatchan and a Brother to Jinbei, but yeah him coming back now would only be for revenge on Luffy because thats the way it would be planned? :getlost:
As far as I am concerned he has a decent chance at showing up this arc - MAYBE only as a flashback - during the Tiger one - Maybe as himself post timeskip in a different state from when he was last seen.
Anything to do with his non appearence would only be speculation at this stage - something I learnt a while ago to only do if you have a solid foundation.
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Ace not being related to Luffy was somewhat hinted at - he had a different last name and several times people said "are you even related?"
It wasn't completely random. -
Ace not being related to Luffy was somewhat hinted at - he had a different last name and several times people said "are you even related?"
It wasn't completely random.I know - look I agree Arlong coming back to attack Luffy and the SH's is completely the wrong reason for him to be in this arc - them meeting again because he happens to be here for a different reason isn't beyond the realms of possibility.
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666 PAGES??!!
How fitting for this thread.
EDIT: Goddammit, Cymelion, Reyairia, and Kishido took the last spots.
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666 PAGES??!!
How fitting for this thread.
EDIT: Goddammit, Cymelion, Reyairia, and Kishido took the last spots.
Snooze ya loseSoz man - kinda embarresed too - spent not even discussing a potential Crewmate.
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Last page should've been nothing but a reposting of every argument AGOG has ever made, as a reminder of the hell that is this thread.
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I dunno I think over the two-year time skip its possible that he got out. Depending on where he was that is…
also you don't think the fact that they are constantly refering to him as a hero and the one who influenced Hodi is hinting towards him showing up?
edit: errr Arlong of course.
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I dunno I think over the two-year time skip its possible that he got out. Depending on where he was that is…
also you don't think the fact that they are constantly refering to him as a hero and the one who influenced Hodi is hinting towards him showing up?
edit: errr Arlong of course.
No, it's not a hint. A hint would be a Newspaper appearing that says "Arlong escapes East Blue jail" or something like that.
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I don't see how arlong escaping jail would be something for the strawhats to be worried about anyways. If Arlong suddenly shows up at FI declaring that he's back, what can he really do? Luffy can easily KO him.
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If a character like Coby can go from a whining kid to being capable of using Rokushiki techniques in less than a year then I am sure a seasoned fighter like Arlong could achieve a much higher power level in two years.
He will most likely be seen again at some point in the story but it is useless to speculate without more information.
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If every villain in One Piece kept reappearing the manga would never end.
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If every villain in One Piece kept reappearing the manga would never end.
You have learned too much! That is indeed Oda's true intent :ninja:
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Probably shouldnt revive this thread from the dead, but the timeskip allows (possible) jimbei joining the crew without messing up the monster trio balance.
Luffy, Zoro and Sanji grew a great deal from the little we saw. It took the whole crew before the time skip to take down a pacificista. After the time skip, The monster trio was able to one shot one without much effort. Thats a major upgrade.
Plus, in a several months to a year (one piece time) the strawhats will be battling heavy hitters most likely. Monster trio should be around ace level right now at least.
Its all speculation of course but i think this takes care of the argument of jimbei being 2 strong. The time skip changed all of that.
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But Oda has confirmed that there will be a old enemy as a new member of the crew, right??? I'm asking cause I thought I had read that somewhere on this forum!
My name is Dracule Mihawk!! It's too soon for you to die. Discover yourself. See the world!! And grow strong, Zoro!!! However long it may take… I shall await you at the top. Strive with your whole heart and mind to best this blade, fierce one!!! Strive to surpass me, Roronoa Zoro!!!
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But Oda has confirmed that there will be a old enemy as a new member of the crew, right??? I'm asking cause I thought I had read that somewhere on this forum!
Not once again this… Dunno what is more a pain in the ass... This or the Jinbei has a grudge against Luffy mistranslation
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Not once again this… Dunno what is more a pain in the ass... This or the Jinbei has a grudge against Luffy mistranslation
O..k… sorry I asked... people really need to be a little more pollite on these forums!
My name is Dracule Mihawk!! It's too soon for you to die. Discover yourself. See the world!! And grow strong, Zoro!!! However long it may take… I shall await you at the top. Strive with your whole heart and mind to best this blade, fierce one!!! Strive to surpass me, Roronoa Zoro!!!
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But Oda has confirmed that there will be a old enemy as a new member of the crew, right??? I'm asking cause I thought I had read that somewhere on this forum!
Not this shit again…
Oda said that an old enemy would reappear and we would see an adventure with this old enemy.
The old enemy was either Crocodile or Buggy. The adventure was the war.
This thread, being this thread, corrupted this into "zomg perona/crocodile/enel will joinzors!!!!!!11!!"
@blendingur69:O..k… sorry I asked... people really need to be a little more pollite on these forums!
Suck it up.
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