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    • Badass SnoCone
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      I referenced this in the Batman 3 thread, but I decided that instead of clouding that thread with discussion of another movie, I'd make a thread for this.

      After Superman Returns, a sequel was talked about…which was later scrapped for a reboot of the series.

      The next Superman Movie will be titled The Man of Steel.

      The only info about the story is as follows:

      I can tell you that Goyer’s story involves Luthor and Brainiac. It is NOT an origin and assumes audiences already know about Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry. I know the Daily Planet is struggling due to the internet. And I know it sets up a huge Kryptonian mythology.

      A reboot, huh? It worked for the Batman franchise.

      Speaking of which: Christopher Nolan (Batman Begins, The Dark Knight) was put in charge of The Man of Steel. He won't be directing it, though.
      Apparently, Jonathan Nolan (who co-wrote The Dark Knight) is co-writing the script for this movie, as well.

      When he heard of the script idea, Nolan apparently said:

      I immediately got it, loved it and thought: That is a way of approaching the story I’ve never seen before that makes it incredibly exciting. I wanted to get Emma [Thomas] and I involved in shepherding the project right away and getting it to the studio and getting it going in an exciting way… A lot of people have approached Superman in a lot of different ways. I only know the way that has worked for us that’s what I know how to do.

      At first I was a little uneasy about a Reboot, as Superman is AWESOME, but now that I hear Nolan's in charge of the project, I can't wait to see this movie.

      They're trying to release the movie on "Christmas 2012"….that can't be good, end of the world and all that jazz.

      EDIT: As of now, it is unknown if Brandon Routh will reprise the role of Superman, or if someone else will be cast.

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        I'll be more accepting of the reboot if Routh replays Superman, and I did like Spacey's Luthor, although there is really too much Luthor in the Superman franchise these days.

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          I was glad when I heard that Nolan was involved. He did a good job with rebooting Batman, and I sure am glad he isn't doing a story about Superman's Origins. I want him to get up and go!

          And all of Iowa will cry if Brandon Routh doesn't replay the role.
          I mean, he's pretty much all we've got.😆

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            AND you don't have your source stated :sideways:.

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              Super Returns was easily one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

              I mean c'mon whats he fighting? LAND?????

              The only good actor in the movie was Kevin Spacey. Brandon Routh was cringe worthy bad.

              Lets see where they take it. Maybe for this movie Lex Luthor can try to build an ocean somewhere….

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                AND you don't have your source stated :sideways:.

                They announced or began planning a reboot since August 2008. Nolan's directing. It's expected to be out by 2011,
                however, if it gets to a point where they don't begin production by 2011, they can be sued due to money being lost by some guy.

                they're waiting for Nolan to sign on to do another Batman (probably this one, Batman 3)
                and said once he does, dates and more official news for Superman will follow.

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                  @Malintex_Terek:

                  I'll be more accepting of the reboot if Routh replays Superman, and I did like Spacey's Luthor, although there is really too much Luthor in the Superman franchise these days.

                  I think the villians in this movie are rumored to be Luthor and Brainiac. So, we'll have some Luthor, but the badness wil be split up.

                  @Mr.:

                  I was glad when I heard that Nolan was involved. He did a good job with rebooting Batman, and I sure am glad he isn't doing a story about Superman's Origins. I want him to get up and go!

                  And all of Iowa will cry if Brandon Routh doesn't replay the role.
                  I mean, he's pretty much all we've got.😆

                  I liked Routh for Superman. He seemed more realistic to me, idk why.
                  I was a little skeptical when I heard they were rebooting the series, but when I heard that Nolan would be put in charge of it I knew that it would be some kind of awesome.

                  @RuNa:

                  AND you don't have your source stated :sideways:.

                  Basically this:

                  @Flux:

                  They announced or began planning a reboot since August 2008. Nolan's directing. It's expected to be out by 2011,
                  however, if it gets to a point where they don't begin production by 2011, they can be sued due to money being lost by some guy.

                  they're waiting for Nolan to sign on to do another Batman (probably this one, Batman 3)
                  and said once he does, dates and more official news for Superman will follow.

                  And, Runa, I got this all from wikipedia, which lists all the sources for the info they put up. You can look at each and every source listed here:
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_%28film_series%29#Reboot

                  Oh, and Flux, I don't think Nolan's directing it. He was put in charge of the project, but he's not directing it. Just overseeing the production of it.
                  @The:

                  Super Returns was easily one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

                  I mean c'mon whats he fighting? LAND?????

                  The only good actor in the movie was Kevin Spacey. Brandon Routh was cringe worthy bad.

                  Lets see where they take it. Maybe for this movie Lex Luthor can try to build an ocean somewhere….

                  The movie wasn't as bad as you make it out to be, but it most certainly could have been better. There wasn't much action in it. But, I don't think that will be the problem the the Reboot.

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                    @Badass:

                    The movie wasn't as bad as you make it out to be,

                    Yea your right, It was much worst than I made it out to be.

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                      @The:

                      Yea your right, It was much worst than I made it out to be.

                      So…you just contradicted yourself.

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                        @Badass:

                        So…you just contradicted yourself.

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                          Can Kevin Spacey be Lex Luthor again?

                          He was fun.

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                            I remember the bad CG shots of Superman that made Routh look like he was made of plastic.

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                              @SantoryuMaster97:

                              I remember the bad CG shots of Superman that made Routh look like he was made of plastic.

                              No, Brandon Routh is just artificial….

                              But yeah. The effects really need to improve, or don't show the effect at all. And I'm fine with Brandon Routh, as long as he actually does a better job acting.

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                                But, guys….Christopher Nolan!

                                [hide]This better be awesome, Christopher Nolan. 😠[/hide]

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                                  Let's not mince words here, Superman Returns was a festering heap of garbage.

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                                    Never liked Superman, I mean is there any suspense on his battles when he is completely invincible, faster than bullet, can see through shit, can fly faster than sound and all this, is is little too powerful. Well I understand that there excist this kryptonite gimmick to make him weaker but still.

                                    But its Christopher Nolan, after Batman Begins and Dark Knight I expect only brilliance from his works.

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                                      Superman's a lot more fantastical, but he tends to have enemies that operate on the same level as himself, like brainiac and darkseid, otherwise we have lex's schemes.

                                      Both Brainiac and lex are apparently in this film, and they have been used to great effect on screen in the past - look to the vaguely recent justice league unlimited.

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                                        Never really bothered me that Superman was virtualy invunerable, heck it's kinda fun seeing people go all out against him like the Captain Atom-Superman fight in unlimited. You just dont get that kinda brutality against any of the more fragile heroes.

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                                          Corey Burton for Brainiac.

                                          @Shandian:

                                          Never liked Superman, I mean is there any suspense on his battles when he is completely invincible, faster than bullet, can see through shit, can fly faster than sound and all this, is is little too powerful.

                                          You've never heard of Captain Marvel, have you?

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                                            Plenty of DC heroes can take quite a punch. Wonder Woman and Green Lantern can be pretty epic if done right.

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                                              @Shandian:

                                              Never liked Superman, I mean is there any suspense on his battles when he is completely invincible, faster than bullet, can see through shit, can fly faster than sound and all this, is is little too powerful. Well I understand that there excist this kryptonite gimmick to make him weaker but still.

                                              Exactly this:

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                                              Superman's a lot more fantastical, but he tends to have enemies that operate on the same level as himself, like brainiac and darkseid, otherwise we have lex's schemes.

                                              While he is super strong and stuff, he isn't exactly invincible (See The Death of Superman stuff, i mean, sure he came back…but he died). But he has a lot of enemies on par with him.

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                                                @Insider2000:

                                                Plenty of DC heroes can take quite a punch. Wonder Woman and Green Lantern can be pretty epic if done right.

                                                Booster gold and blue beatle for a movie.

                                                The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness.

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                                                  @Badass:

                                                  While he is super strong and stuff, he isn't exactly invincible (See The Death of Superman stuff, i mean, sure he came back…but he died). But he has a lot of enemies on par with him.

                                                  How much more impact would that storyline have had if instead of that moronic doomsday macguffin they used darkseid and had a six month arc leading up to it before the climactic battle.

                                                  Doomsday was just such a terrible non-character.

                                                  @Jarhead:

                                                  Booster gold and blue beatle for a movie.

                                                  The Goonies 2

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                                                    @Darkstorm:

                                                    How much more impact would that storyline have had if instead of that moronic doomsday macguffin they used darkseid and had a six month arc leading up to it before the climactic battle.

                                                    Doomsday was just such a terrible non-character.

                                                    Yeah, I would have preferred they used Darkseid. I'll admit that Superman: The Animated Series made me realize how awesome a villain Darkseid is. Probably Superman's best villain.

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                                                      I didn't think much of the first season, but then they really got it into gear.

                                                      Apokolips…now! and Legacy are some of the finest things Bruce Timm put out there, and that's saying a lot.

                                                      I remain shocked that Apokolips...now! part 2 got past the censors.

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                                                        I agree. While the first season was enjoyable, it wasn't as good as the next 2 seasons. The third season and all the Apokolips stuff is where it really became awesome. I'd have to say that it's 3rd season was probably it's best.

                                                        Now that I think about it, I'd love to see Metallo in a movie. And definitely the S:TAS version of the Toy Man. That plastic doll mask used to give me nightmares as a child.

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                                                          "Let's play a game, SupermanSnocone. Let's play a game. Forever."
                                                          close up on the mask

                                                          The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness.

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                                                            ….Is it Parcheesi? I've never played, nor do I know how. I just like saying it. Parcheesi. Parcheesi.

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                                                              ….Is it Parcheesi? I've never played, nor do I know how. I just like saying it. Parcheesi. Parcheesi.

                                                              I love Parcheesi!

                                                              A wall of two Parcheesi pieces is the only thing that can defeat Superman. "Sorry, Superman. But until I move one of those two pieces, you're not going anywhere! WAH HA HA HA HA!"

                                                              And then I roll the die, and I wind up being forced to move. Then Superman stomps one of those pieces, sending it back to home.

                                                              Then I realize I hate the game.

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                                                                Oh man, I hate to rant here, but I just feel that it's relative to bring up Smallville and how bad they ruined some characters.

                                                                Lex's character was screwed up when they had him and Clark make a friendship, and then have issues with it for the next 7 seasons.

                                                                Lana was- No. I'm sick of her already.

                                                                Bizarro, although not that big of a major villian, was introduced at the end of a season finale, and then killed at the end of the next season premiere. What's worse is that they spent the whole episode trying to figure out his weakness, only to find it in the last 5 minutes.

                                                                Doomsday was worse. They gave him a human form, put him in a love triangle, and had him get into his Doomsday form once every few episodes, but he was always in the shadows or hiding behind a pole or something.
                                                                Then on the season finale, he fought Clark for maybe a minute at best? And then Jimmy (yes, Jimmy) killed him.
                                                                JIMMY!

                                                                I lost faith in Smallville. I haven't even watched an episode of the last season, but last I heard, they were working on developing Metallo, but I'm not holding my breath.:sad:

                                                                But Nolan's a good boy. He knows how to make a story good.

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                                                                  People actually watched smallville? wasn't it basically dawsons creek with superpowers?

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                                                                    They gave him a human form,

                                                                    Didn't they do that with every villain? They ruined Mr. Mxyzptlk that way. Of course, I've never watched the show, just saw pics and clips here and there.

                                                                    I lost faith in Smallville. I haven't even watched an episode of the last season, but last I heard, they were working on developing Metallo, but I'm not holding my breath.:sad:

                                                                    I saw part of that episode. It was probably the only bit of smallville that I saw, and I watched it only because Metallo was in it. From what I saw, Metallo came out pretty good on Smallville. Makes me wonder why he was never in any of the movies.

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                                                                      @Badass:

                                                                      Didn't they do that with every villain? They ruined Mr. Mxyzptlk that way. Of course, I've never watched the show, just saw pics and clips here and there.

                                                                      Hm ya, now that I think of it, they did do that to pretty much every villian. Even with Zod, they thought it'd be cool to have him possess Lex's body.:getlost:

                                                                      I hope Smallville never touches Darkseid.

                                                                      I saw part of that episode. It was probably the only bit of smallville that I saw, and I watched it only because Metallo was in it. From what I saw, Metallo came out pretty good on Smallville. Makes me wonder why he was never in any of the movies.

                                                                      I actually read the summary of Metallo in Smallville somewhere, and it did sound like they did a decent job with him. Apparently the villian (Tessa?) has his Kryptonite core, so hopefully they bring him back.

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                                                                        @Mr.:

                                                                        Hm ya, now that I think of it, they did do that to pretty much every villian. Even with Zod, they thought it'd be cool to have him possess Lex's body.:getlost:

                                                                        I hope Smallville never touches Darkseid.

                                                                        Well, apparently, this nextseason is gonna be its last. I don't think they would do Darkseid, but they do need something for their finale. :unsure:

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                                                                          News on this movie. It's apparently going to be directed by Zack Snyder, who is the man who directed 300, Dawn of the Dead, and Watchmen.

                                                                          At least the movie will look good.

                                                                          And Christopher Nolan's role is basically co-writer for this movie. He won't be doing any directing.

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                                                                            http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a301053/henry-cavill-chosen-to-play-superman.html

                                                                            Henry Cavill is our Superman.

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                                                                            I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

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                                                                              I'd just love it if they had a Bizarro in a Superman movie…Like in All-Star Superman Vol. 2. Bizarro is the only thing that makes me like Superman.

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                                                                                http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a301053/henry-cavill-chosen-to-play-superman.html

                                                                                Henry Cavill is our Superman.

                                                                                [qimg]http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2010/10/henry-cavill.jpg[/qimg]

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                                                                                …...I approve of him.

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                                                                                  http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a301053/henry-cavill-chosen-to-play-superman.html

                                                                                  Henry Cavill is our Superman.

                                                                                  http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2010/10/henry-cavill.jpg

                                                                                  Never seen him in anything. Hopefully, he can do a good job at acting differently under his Clark Kent persona and Superman persona.

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                                                                                    @Mr.:

                                                                                    Oh man, I hate to rant here, but I just feel that it's relative to bring up Smallville and how bad they ruined some characters.

                                                                                    Lex's character was screwed up when they had him and Clark make a friendship, and then have issues with it for the next 7 seasons.

                                                                                    Lana was- No. I'm sick of her already.

                                                                                    Bizarro, although not that big of a major villian, was introduced at the end of a season finale, and then killed at the end of the next season premiere. What's worse is that they spent the whole episode trying to figure out his weakness, only to find it in the last 5 minutes.

                                                                                    Doomsday was worse. They gave him a human form, put him in a love triangle, and had him get into his Doomsday form once every few episodes, but he was always in the shadows or hiding behind a pole or something.
                                                                                    Then on the season finale, he fought Clark for maybe a minute at best? And then Jimmy (yes, Jimmy) killed him.
                                                                                    JIMMY!

                                                                                    I lost faith in Smallville. I haven't even watched an episode of the last season, but last I heard, they were working on developing Metallo, but I'm not holding my breath.:sad:

                                                                                    But Nolan's a good boy. He knows how to make a story good.

                                                                                    Smallville was ok for the first 2 seasons but after the story literally went in circle and they were obviously making the story as they go along. The characters did not have any arc. When you think Clark and Lan get together, they don't and they go back etc. They throw a lot of random stuff for no reasons.

                                                                                    Wether we like the friendship with Lex and Clark. I thought that the actor who played Lex was pretty awesome.

                                                                                    It takes me back I used to the batman and superman adventures. A cross with Batman could be interesting handled the right way.

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                                                                                    IMO it was Dc at its finest.

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                                                                                      Smallville was ok for the first 2 seasons but after the story literally went in circle and they were obviously making the story as they go along. The characters did not have any arc. When you think Clark and Lan get together, they don't and they go back etc. They throw a lot of random stuff for no reasons.

                                                                                      Wether we like the friendship with Lex and Clark. I thought that the actor who played Lex was pretty awesome.

                                                                                      It takes me back I used to the batman and superman adventures. A cross with Batman could be interesting handled the right way.

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                                                                                      IMO it was Dc at its finest.

                                                                                      Lois Lane: I'm having breakfast with Bruce.
                                                                                      Oooooh. Tension.

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                                                                                        http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a301053/henry-cavill-chosen-to-play-superman.html

                                                                                        Henry Cavill is our Superman.

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                                                                                        Hmm…he looks like he'll be able to pull off Superman. But I wonder how he'll be as Clark Kent.

                                                                                        Like HiroVoid said, I hope he can act well in both personae.

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                                                                                          http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a301053/henry-cavill-chosen-to-play-superman.html

                                                                                          Henry Cavill is our Superman.

                                                                                          http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2010/10/henry-cavill.jpg

                                                                                          Reminds me of George Reeves a bit.

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                                                                                          I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                                                                            Interesting Read :

                                                                                            http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/b223487_five_things_about_new_superman_henry.html?cmpid=sn-000000-twitterfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=twitterfeed&utm_campaign=twitterfeed_topstories

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                                                                                            I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

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                                                                                            In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                                                                              Your potential Loises :

                                                                                              http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/02/01/superman-kristen-stewart-lois-lane/

                                                                                              Originally Posted by sanji499

                                                                                              I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

                                                                                              Originally Posted by Silvers Rayleigh

                                                                                              In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                                                                                Your potential Loises :

                                                                                                http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/02/01/superman-kristen-stewart-lois-lane/

                                                                                                Hm…an all CG suit? Hope it'll look real...

                                                                                                And out of those Loises, I like Kristen Stewart the best. I think she can pull off the role well (from the pics I've seen of her).

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                                                                                                  Kristen Stewart is a sufferance to the term acting. In Twilight she seems to think 'acting all angsty huffy puffy and shaking her head around' is good acting. I have my criticisms of Twilight, and I even thought, 'hey the third one isn't actually that bad' but the her performance in them made it look like a cheap porno.

                                                                                                  I think either Jessica Biel or Kristen Bell from those choices.

                                                                                                  Originally Posted by sanji499

                                                                                                  I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

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                                                                                                  In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                                                                                    Kristen Stewart is a sufferance to the term acting. In Twilight she seems to think 'acting all angsty huffy puffy and shaking her head around' is good acting. I have my criticisms of Twilight, and I even thought, 'hey the third one isn't actually that bad' but the her performance in them made it look like a cheap porno.

                                                                                                    She was in Twilight?

                                                                                                    I knew she was in Zathura…but Twilight?

                                                                                                    I just recently saw pics of her and she looked like she had some "Lois-like" facial expressions, so I thought she'd be good...

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                                                                                                      If Kristen "Wooden Acting" Stewart play Lois, this film is already officially terrible.

                                                                                                      I hope to dear god there was never a serious consideration of her. ANYONE Else on that list would be a better fit. Hell, Robin Williams donning Drag again for the first time since Mrs. Doubtfire would be marginally better than Kristen Stewart as Lois. At least he can act.

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                                                                                                        If Robin Williams were in the Superman film in any shape or form I would self-harm.

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                                                                                                        She was in Twilight?

                                                                                                        I knew she was in Zathura…but Twilight?

                                                                                                        I just recently saw pics of her and she looked like she had some "Lois-like" facial expressions, so I thought she'd be good...

                                                                                                        It's a pretty hard franchise to avoid, she plays the female lead.

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