I think Don Kreig and Arlong should deserve a higher bounty than 17 and 20 million. People like Bon Clay and Masira (who have higher bounty than them) look like they will lose to a fight with Don and Arlong. I can't imagine Bon Clay lifting up a house either… What do you think?
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I think it has to do with the grand line.. if you're not in the grand line, the government doesn't care as much. Not that they don't care, just not as much, so your bounty will be lower even if you're stronger.
And in Arlong's case, he was bribing the marines so his bounty was kept artificially lower than it should be.
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I agree with jackvance, it must have something to do with the Grand Line. The thought that how much a threat you are to the World Government might have also have something to do with it.
I have no proof for it but with the information we have now, I interpret it that way that the World Government itself, meaning the Gorousei and the Kings who have a seat in the WG are all located on the Grand Line. If that is the case then pirates of the four Blue´s are lesser a threat to the World Government.
I mean it could have been possible that Arlong would have been treated completely different by the marine if what he did happened on a Grand Line island. Just an idea.Another thing that hasn´t to do much with the WG itself is how we fans actually look at the character´s bounties. I can´t speak for all of us, but I know how I thought of them a while ago.
I somehow interpreted them to be as much an indicator for a pirate´s strenght as we got this whole Battle Power Scanner stuff in DragonBall Z. I mean if in DBZ a character has a battle power of 30.000 and another character has one of 340.000.000 then it immediately means that the one with the higher BP could kill the one with a lower easily. Not only that but he could probably be able to destroy the entire planet with the same strike.In One Piece it is different. I a character has a bounty of 340 million Beli on his head then it doesn´t mean that he could easily destroy the world with a lightning ball from his little finger. The gab between the character´s strenght´s is not that big as in DBZ. Of course there is a strenght difference, but it shouldn´t be portrayed that way, because the bounty of a character tells us not just how powerful or how dangerous he is to the WG. It actually also show´s us how much the WG wants for a certain characters head. That doesn´t necessarily has to mean that he is a large threat, just how much interest the WG has in a specific person.
At least that´s how I see it. The bounties are not as efficient to determine a character´s true "worth" as the DBZ battle power scanners.
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I wonder if eventually, just to reinforce the whole "bounties are not power levels" concept, we'll see something like this:
"Okay, 200 million berries on his head! (drawing poster of some minor villian)"
"But, but, that's a lot of money. What did he do?"
"He dented one of the WG kings' carriages! He's just out for revenge now and can afford to pay for it!" -
Arlong and Krieg are strong, but since they really don't have anything to do with being in the grandline what so ever, The marines really don't care. They only focus on the stronger people, the people who's motives could alter the balance, Like Shanks and whitebeard meeting up, And Ace vs Blackbeard. But yeah, I suppose Arlong and Krieg's bounties should be a bit higher, but not alot.
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Since when did Mr.2 have a bounty?!
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I'm a little surprised Arlong's isn't higher. Although he's "safely" in the East Blue, his vision is clearly one of conquering and dominance. If ignored, he could well conquer the East Blue (assuming that he hadn't been pushed into early retirement by the Strawhats), and from there, start intrusions on the Grand Line itself.
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Originally posted by Zephos@Jul 20 2005, 05:41 PM
Since when did Mr.2 have a bounty?!
[snapback]93188[/snapback]One of the Miss Goldenweek mini-story cover pages has his bounty up.
Bounty1Berry, I think that the world government simply doesn't have much to fear from a person who simply was an underling of one of their shikibuchai. If Arlong really tried anything there are simply a multitude of options to easily get rid of him. I doubt Arlong could take on any of the supreme admirals, shikibuchai, etc. East Blue is considered to be virtually weak compared to the level of danger and so on of the grandline.
EDIT: And what jackvance said.
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**I wonder if eventually, just to reinforce the whole "bounties are not power levels" concept, we'll see something like this:
"Okay, 200 million berries on his head! (drawing poster of some minor villian)"
"But, but, that's a lot of money. What did he do?"
"He dented one of the WG kings' carriages! He's just out for revenge now and can afford to pay for it!"**Hehe.. well I doubt it'll be this extreme. Bounties have to correlate with strength atleast to some degree, because if a weak idiot gets a high bounty, he'll be caught instantly and the WG will have to cough up the money.
Originally posted by Bounty1Berry@Jul 20 2005, 05:42 PM
I'm a little surprised Arlong's isn't higher. Although he's "safely" in the East Blue, his vision is clearly one of conquering and dominance. If ignored, he could well conquer the East Blue (assuming that he hadn't been pushed into early retirement by the Strawhats), and from there, start intrusions on the Grand Line itself.
[snapback]93189[/snapback]Since he was bribing the local marine chief, the marine higher-ups probably didn't know about this.
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I thinl that a pretty good way of determining a pirate's streangh is to look at their
Bounty AND how long they have been a pirate. For example I think they
considered luffy more of a threat than arlong because they knew if he wasn't
caught he would only get stronger.
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I'm a little surprised Arlong's isn't higher. Although he's "safely" in the East Blue, his vision is clearly one of conquering and dominance. If ignored, he could well conquer the East Blue (assuming that he hadn't been pushed into early retirement by the Strawhats), and from there, start intrusions on the Grand Line itself.
[snapback]93189[/snapback]Since he was bribing the local marine chief, the marine higher-ups probably didn't know about this.
[snapback]93217[/snapback]2 reasons the marines put his bounty at 20 million is because of the bribing and
the fact thet he has relitivly stayed in the same place for so long
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Really, Luffy's bounty for the first time was higher because he defeated three individuals that already had bounties and the guy would demanded the bounty to be placed was quite adamant about it along with the past acts suggesting a possible rate of potential in how soon will he become a threat to the world government.
A bounty simply increases when you do certain deeds that make you look like a viable threat; Luffy's defeat of a shikibuchai, Zoro defeating all the bounty hunters at Whiskey Peak and defeating Das Bones aka Mr.1.
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I wonder why Masira and Shoujou has a bounty? I mean all they do is search under seas not do piratey things.
Each characters has a bounty so why ain't there any bounty hunters chasing them?
Even on the Grandline, I think some character may have lasser bounty.
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Originally posted by jackvance@Jul 19 2005, 11:16 PM
Of course there is a strenght difference, but it shouldn´t be portrayed that way, because the bounty of a character tells us not just how powerful or how dangerous he is to the WG. It actually also show´s us how much the WG wants for a certain characters head. That doesn´t necessarily has to mean that he is a large threat, just how much interest the WG has in a specific person.Agreed. A high bounty doesn't really mean the pirate is really strong. Take for example Robin. She had a bounty of 79 million placed on her when she was eight for destroying a Marine ship.
Now doesn't that seem high? Maybe there's another reason she has such a high bounty (those up to date with the manga should know why)? >_>
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If you're capable of surviving the Grand Line, you get a higher bounty anyway. People like Don Kreig, strong as he is, that aren't capable of sailing the Grand Line shouldn't be considered real threats.
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Originally posted by Paulie@Jul 20 2005, 06:25 PM
People like Don Kreig, strong as he is, that aren't capable of sailing the Grand Line shouldn't be considered real threats.
[snapback]93277[/snapback]True, but Krieg got some really bad luck and ran into Mihawk. What chance did he have of making it through that without retreating?
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The fact remains he didn't make it in the Grand Line.
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Yeah. And I guess everyone's living dangerously and risking it by sailing around in the Grand Line.
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Originally posted by Horn Point+Jul 20 2005, 08:38 PM–>QUOTE(Horn Point @ Jul 20 2005, 08:38 PM)
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i think bon clay is stronger than kuro, don and arlong….
i also think that mr 1 is stronger than any of the east blue villains
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Originally posted by ron_8@Jul 20 2005, 10:29 PM
**i think bon clay is stronger than kuro, don and arlong….i also think that mr 1 is stronger than any of the east blue villains
[snapback]93329[/snapback]**I think that Bon is sronger than Kuro but definitly not against Arlon and probably not stronger than Krieg. But I agree that Mr. 1 is stronger than than all the eastblue villains.. together!
If Krieg didnt met Mihawk, and started to plunder with his 5000 men, then I think his bounty would raise to 45-55 millions instead of 17, becasue he has so many men..
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Originally posted by jackvance+Jul 21 2005, 02:58 AM–>QUOTE(jackvance @ Jul 21 2005, 02:58 AM) _> Originally posted by Horn Point@Jul 20 2005, 08:38 PM
**People like Don Kreig, strong as he is, that aren't capable of sailing the Grand Line shouldn't be considered real threats.
[snapback]93277[/snapback]True, but Krieg got some really bad luck and ran into Mihawk. What chance did he have of making it through that without retreating?
[snapback]93282[/snapback]**I was actually about to make the same post
But as they say, luck is part of skill too
[snapback]93298[/snapback]thinking about it, i think that Mihawk was acting on WG orders because not only did he destroy the Kreig pirates, he persued them to finish the job, taking that into consideration, Kreig would've been due a hefty bounty should he have snuck past Mihawk and remained._
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Mihawk has bored that why he attacked Krieg
At least that's what Mihawk said when he left after fighting Zoro
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Originally posted by Darkariel@Jul 22 2005, 03:26 PM
**Mihawk has bored that why he attacked KriegAt least that's what Mihawk said when he left after fighting Zoro
[snapback]94253[/snapback]**yeah but i don't even think Crocodile would've been the type to admit he was sent on a task by the WG, it's a pride thing.
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Except that Mihawk did say that he simply attacked them to kill time while Crocodile said that he simply wanted the heads of those pirates he killed early during the Arabasta arc outloud for anyone who was there to hear. It's obvious that while Crocodile simply went out to collect their heads for the bounty Mihawk just did it simply as something to do.
Don Krieg has a hefty bounty on his head and obviously can easily be taken in by Mihawk but since Mihawk didn't care enough to do so it pretty much means he was serious when he said he did to kill time.
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Originally posted by neodragzero@Jul 23 2005, 01:51 AM
**Except that Mihawk did say that he simply attacked them to kill time while Crocodile said that he simply wanted the heads of those pirates he killed early during the Arabasta arc outloud for anyone who was there to hear. It's obvious that while Crocodile simply went out to collect their heads for the bounty Mihawk just did it simply as something to do.Don Krieg has a hefty bounty on his head and obviously can easily be taken in by Mihawk but since Mihawk didn't care enough to do so it pretty much means he was serious when he said he did to kill time.
[snapback]94461[/snapback]**if zoro got a bounty of 60 million for killing 100 bounty hunters how much would Mihawk bounty be for killing 5000 men??
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Originally posted by Thedevil@Jul 22 2005, 06:52 PM
if zoro got a bounty of 60 million for killing 100 bounty hunters how much would Mihawk bounty be for killing 5000 men??
[snapback]94478[/snapback]Zero since he is a shichibukai
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Originally posted by Horn Point+Jul 20 2005, 10:38 PM–>QUOTE(Horn Point @ Jul 20 2005, 10:38 PM)
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if zoro got a bounty of 60 million for killing 100 bounty hunters how much would Mihawk bounty be for killing 5000 men??
[snapback]94478[/snapback]Like jackvance said it doesn't matter when Mihawk is a shikibuchai. And Zoro's bounty is the result of defeating those bounty hunters and
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nah it doesn matter but its still a fun thought that zoro got his bounty for killing 100 men and a wanted assasin and mihawk just killed 5000 men and 17 million pirate for fun :lol: ,
goddamn mihawk is un-earthly strong i cant wait til he and zoro fight
