The "Shueisha" Thread

Coookie

To be fair it's said to be "reaching its climax", not "end" per se. But with the extended pages, new series coming and everything it's following the pattern of other series' endings

KageKageKing

To be fair they really did seem to have sped up the pacing on Dr.Stone after Bizarre Brazil Adventures.

black-leg jex

It does but given Dr. Stones really fast-pace, maybe we should've seen this coming XD

TLC

Ooof, Ayashimon dropped like a stone, I hope it can come back from that.

zeltrax225

I can see why a lot of people won't like the main character

Zar

Sakamoto and PPPPPP in the top half is nice to see.

Coookie

Shonen Jump Issue #14
Witch Watch (Lead CP)
One Piece
Jujutsu Kaisen
My Hero Academia
Me & Roboco
Dr. Stone (CP, End)
Akane-banashi
Sakamoto Days
Noa Dai 9-Gouki (CP, One Shot)
Undead Unluck (CP)
Earthchild
Blue Box
PPPPPP
Mission: Yozakura Family
High School Family
The Elusive Samurai
Mashle
Black Clover
Ayakashi Triangle
Doron Dororon
Ayashimon
Protect Me, Shugomaru!

Shonen Jump Issue #15
Lead CP: Black Clover
CP: Blue Box, Me & Roboco, new One Shot by Kawae Kouta

Doron Dororon hasn't been doing well recently

Coookie

Shonen Jump Issue #15
Black Clover (Lead CP)
Sakamoto Days
One Piece
My Hero Academia
Blue Box (CP)
Undead Unluck
Earthchild
Nuenchi (CP, One Shot)
High School Family
Akane-banashi
Witch Watch
The Elusive Samurai
Me & Roboco (CP)
Mission: Yozakura Family
PPPPPP
Ayakashi Triangle
Protect Me, Shugomaru!
Mashle
Ayashimon
Doron Dororon

Absent: Jujutsu Kaisen

Shonen Jump Issue #16
Lead CP: High School Family
CP: Mission: Yozakura Family, PPPPPP, new One Shot by Nakama Tadaichi
Extended pages: Akane-banashi

El-Matematico

Apparently that was wrong?

Surprised to see Shugomaru escape bottom 3, though it doesn't matter as it's already axed (it's been doing the final boss rush for a while). Ayashimon and Doron are as good as dead, but they'll at least get to 3 volumes because of Dr. Stone and Shugomaru ending.

Coookie

Shonen Jump Issue #16
High School Family (Lead Color)
My Hero Academia
Jujutsu Kaisen
Witch Watch
Mashle
Mission: Yozakura Family (CP)
Blue Box
Akane-banashi
Exorcist no Kyoshi-kun (CP, One Shot)
Black Clover
PPPPPP (CP)
Earthchild
Sakamoto Days
Undead Unluck
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle
The Elusive Samurai
Ayashimon
Doron Dororon
Protect Me, Shugomaru!

Absent: One Piece

Shonen Jump Issue #17
Lead Color: Sakamoto Days
CP: My Hero Academia, The Elusive Samurai, new One Shot

pariston_hill

Fujimoto was really writing about the KyoAni attack in Don't Look Back

Robby

Earthchild's already in the bottom half by like week 5. Yeah, it's not going to be around for long. Look forward to the desperate style and genre shifts in about two chapters as it attempts anything to find an audience.

PatTraverse

At least Doron Dororon and Shugomaru! can help it to buy some time.

Zar

All these manga that hit bottom quickly make me curious… is there any manga that's managed to recover from that? Doesn't have to be the exact scenario Red Hood and Earthchild are in, but basically a new series bombing the first few chapters but then it reinvents itself and recover.

I guess PPPPPP didn't do too well at first (least not as I remember) but it didn't have the same disastrous beginning those two had.

Robby

@Zar:

All these manga that hit bottom quickly make me curious… is there any manga that's managed to recover from that?

Dragonball pretty famously wasn't doing great in its first arc. It was introducing Krillin and the tournament that saved it.

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure radically reinvented itself every few years. Look at stands appearing in part 3 completely replacing the previous system and that was clearly something intended to re-energize the franchise and it worked, Part 3 was the part of Jojo everyone recognized and knew before the recent anime came along..

Yugioh originally wasn't about card games. The monster dueling cards was just a single one-off story around ten chapters in that introduced new rival Kaiba (the usual "desperate turn around" spot) then it had another 10 or so chapters of random games before bringing back capsule monsters as a regular feature, and then around chapter 60 committed to card games full time which is where the anime starts, mostly condensing or ignoring the first few volumes.

You can look at the radical shift both YuYuHakusho and Bleach went through after their first bit of time and figure they were on the chopping block for a while until they changed directions to full battle mangas. Their animes didn't even adapt their earliest one off ghost stories either.

Urusei Yatsura had some of that as well. You'd think Lum was the main character but she was actually only in the first chapter, and then it was random one offs for a decent while before she returned and became the lead.

Those are all much older examples and I obviously don't have actual numbers, but you can see how they started and then made sharp turns, and their legacies and eventual longevity speak for them.

auem

Kuroko No Basuke was doing bad initially I heard. Back then I wasn't following the rank though I was fully invested in weekly scanlations.

Kdom

Sket Dance was in the bottom 3 after the 8 first chapters during around 3 months and managed to survive.
I'm not sure what happened to Dodon, the first chapters were not that badly received so I wonder what displeased the Japanese. It was the only one that managed to catch me beside Akane in recent titles

black-leg jex

Katekyo Hitman Reborn wasn't doing to well at the start when it was just a gag manga, and then it shifted to Shonen Battle manga and went up in popularity.

I think I heard Undead Unluck also had a bit of a rocky start but when they joined the order peope got more invested.

maxterdexter

Sket dance would have been doomed without the switch off arc, probably would have managed 2 year publication and be forgotten.

Medaka box you could argue it did a weird pívot, but considering who the author is, and the weird details of the school, it was probably meant to go weird from the beginning, just had to go weird faster and harder than originally intended.

fana

Kumagawa saved Medaka Box. A shame the anime didn't go that far.

maxterdexter

Oh for sure, but introducing him before the school council fight (wait, the protagonists were the school council, who were ball kid and the sister and the little kid and the “I’m the king” guys group were?, there were 6 people on the interesting side, and 6 that got one shooted by Kumagawa on his introduction.. or were there 2 villain groups before kumagawa)

Satsuki

Is SJ on break this week?

pokebat7

Yes, the next chapter will be offically released on August 21st in japan. It's on break for Obon this week

HEATXZ

Since Shonen Jump is on break i made a Weekly Shonen Jump Manga ranking of series that are still ongoing(One Punch Man,SpyXFamily,and Ayakashi Triangle are not on the list due to not being in Weekly Shonen Jump if i did they would be in my Top 5)
1.One Piece
2. My Hero Academia
3.Black Clover
4. Me And Roboco
5. High School Family
6.Akane Banashi
7. Mashle Magic And Muscle
8. The Elusive Samurai
9.Witch Watch
10. Sakamoto Days
11.Jujutsu Kaisen
12. Mission Yozakura Family
13.Undead Unluck
14.Doron Dororon
15.Aliens Area
16.Super Smartphone
17.BlueBox
18.PPPPPP
19.Earthchild

Epicopboy

Weekly Oricon Ranking (by volumes) | August 08 to 14 :

ONE PIECE #103 (349,055 / 1,624,798)
Jujutsu Kaisen #20 (313,827 / 1,097,608)
Dungeon Meshi #12 (147,053)
Mairimashita! Iruma-kun #28 (96,061 / 96,474)
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun #14 (87,129)
Makai no Shuyaku wa Waraware da! #10 (66,570)
Grand Blue #19 (56,441 / 112,859)
The Fable The second contact #04 (54,631 / 105,649)
Tensei Kenja no Isekai Life ~Dai-2 no Shokugyou wo Ete, Sekai Saikyou ni Narimashita~ #17 (49,978)
DRAGON BALL SUPER #19 (47,398 / 164,589)
WIND BREAKER #08 (46,875)
Tensei shitara Dainana Ouji Datta node, Kimama ni Majutsu wo Kiwamemasu #08 (44,209)
Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku #14 (41,052 / 42,844)
ONE PIECE episode A #01 (40,503 / 110,537)
ONE PIECE episode A #02 (39,604 / 106,817)
Kirai de Isasete #04 (37,123)
Boku no Kokoro no Yabai Yatsu #07 Special Edition (35,915 / 36,346)
Yowamushi Pedal #79 (34,946 / 35,196)
ONE PIECE #102 (33,168 / 1,788,378)
Tensei Kizoku, Kantei Skill de Nariagaru ~Jakushou Ryouchi wo Uketsuida node, Yuushuu na Jinzai wo Fuyashiteitara, Saikyou Ryouchi ni Natteta~ #08 (32,545)
Kuroshitsuji #32 (31,547 / 229,469)
Shokugeki no Sanji (31,285 / 93,312)
Boku no Kokoro no Yabai Yatsu #07 (29,990 / 30,209)
Shinjiteita Nakama-tachi ni Dungeon Okuchi de Korosarekaketa ga Gift 『Mugen Gacha』 de Level 9999 no Nakama-tachi wo Te ni Irete Moto Party Member to Sekai ni Fukushuu & 『Zamaa! 』 Shimasu! #05 (29,743)
Ao no Hako #06 (29,516 / 91,725)
DAN DA DAN #06 (28,843 / 98,657)
Yume no Shizuku, Kin no Torikago #17 (25,147)
Hananoi-kun to Koi no Yamai #11 (24,058)
Ousama Ranking #14 (23,913)
SAKAMOTO DAYS #08 (23,773 / 76,566)
Boku no Hero Academia #35 (22,924 / 610,865)
SPY × FAMILY #09 (22,731 / 1,624,270)
Mikata ga Yowasugite Hojo Mahou ni Tesshiteita Kyuutei Mahoushi, Tsuihou sarete Saikyou wo Mezashimasu #04 (22,249)
Rougo ni Sonaete Isekai de 8-manmai no Kinka wo Tamemasu #10 (22,099)
Nanatsuya Shinobu no Housekibako #17 (21,687)
Yuukoku no Moriarty #18 (21,566 / 64,796)
ONE PIECE #101 (21,441 / 1,892,881)
SPY × FAMILY #08 (21,322 / 1,676,961)
Kekkai Sensen Back 2 Back #10 (21,220 / 69,693)
SPY × FAMILY #07 (20,978 / 1,861,474)
SPY × FAMILY #05 (20,977 / 2,067,687)
Tokyo Revengers #28 (20,897 / 848,012)
SPY × FAMILY #06 (20,549 / 1,983,516)
SPY × FAMILY #04 (20,458 / 2,130,676)
SPY × FAMILY #01 (20,204 / 2,298,645)
SPY × FAMILY #03 (19,573 / 2,071,836)
SPY × FAMILY #02 (19,477 / 2,166,348)
Temple #07 (19,418 / 41,221)
Kinnikuman #79 (18,814 / 67,739)
Kaijuu 8-gou #07 (18,674 / 515,899)

Kdom

it seems jujutsu sales have dropped with this volume. Even with the special edition, it was not that far behind one piece

pokebat7

It seems the windfall of it's anime has started to run out. Not unexpected given it's been over a year since it stopped airing (last episode was released March 27, 2021). Sales will probably pick up when the anime returns in 2023.

Robby

How is Earthchild still going? Wasn't it consistently at the bottom of the rankings even before the forum break?

DId it just switch over to being a battle manga to save itself or what?

akagami7

@Robby lots of bad/mediocre new series lately. And in addition there was another new series, Ruri, that was good (but slice of life ) that had to go on hiatus at chapter 6 or so due to the author's health.

Ivotas

Hell Motherhunting Yeah!

spoiler

Someone go and dig that old thread up please! What a fantastic year. First Berserk resumes and now this. With this all my favorite series are back in action!

Kdom

@Ivotas
I think it is this thread but it is currently locked
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/41060/hiatus-x-hiatus-iii-goodnight-sweet-princes/5368?lang=en-US&page=108

Ivotas

@Kdom said in The "Shueisha" Thread:

@Ivotas
I think it is this thread but it is currently locked
https://forums.arlongpark.net/topic/41060/hiatus-x-hiatus-iii-goodnight-sweet-princes/5368?lang=en-US&page=108

Thanks. Couldn't find it as I didn't think the last chapter was in 2018. The thread usually gets activated before the series returns from hiatus. But most likely the mods will wait at least a week since they worry about the thread inviting too much negativity when there's no new chapters to discuss.

KageKageKing

So that Romantic Killer title...Kinda of a big yikes for me.