Yeah, Kochikame is never coming stateside. There'd be no point. Same as Sazae-San.
Yet Crayon Shin Chan we can deal with.
With heavy script editing.
Yeah, Kochikame is never coming stateside. There'd be no point. Same as Sazae-San.
Yet Crayon Shin Chan we can deal with.
With heavy script editing.
Huh, John Bae said that we're getting E-Robot as part of this next Jump Start round. I wasn't expecting that.
Huh, John Bae said that we're getting E-Robot as part of this next Jump Start round. I wasn't expecting that.
That information is already uploaded.
I mean I was expecting it to be passed over on the ESJ side.
Hmm, and apparently ESJ got bumped up from T to T+ recently.
I'd wish that they could go with some older series that aren't available, I'm talking pre 90's, they should pick a short hit from the 80's and run it as an experiment.
Judging from the latest Hi-Fi Cluster chapter and its ratings, I think it's going to be another Stealth Symphony. Looks like the author is getting desperate.
Judging from the latest Hi-Fi Cluster chapter and its ratings, I think it's going to be another Stealth Symphony. Looks like the author is getting desperate.
Why Stealth Symphony?
Judging from the latest Hi-Fi Cluster chapter and its ratings, I think it's going to be another Stealth Symphony. Looks like the author is getting desperate.
What do you mean by getting desperate?
@Kaizou:
Why Stealth Symphony?
I'm not sure, I guess that's what I remember more recently. I guess it has to do with
-new series Viz picks up for WSJ that ends up tanking
-MC joins, or is involved with, a special group in the city and is a very average member in comparison
-shock factor that came out of nowhere few weeks after its serialization
-and of course its very low rating since its serialization
@TheBuzzcocks:
What do you mean by getting desperate?
In the the latest chapter Viz released (I think they're still behind) there's a fairly brutal murder near the end of the chapter. There was hardly any setup for it, and it happened out of nowhere. There hasn't been any mutilation in the series until that one moment, which makes me think the author added that in so that his series wouldn't fall further down the rankings. I know that's what the author's supposed to do–to keep the series interesting--but it felt so out of place.
I'd wish that they could go with some older series that aren't available, I'm talking pre 90's, they should pick a short hit from the 80's and run it as an experiment.
Well I just asked them if they could do a "Jump Old School" feature like they have recently started doing with "Jump Back" and if they could choose a few Pre-2000 shonen jump manga, run the first 3 chapters and let the fans decide on what comes over, hopefully in their next podcast they will answer the question and if they don't then I will consistently ask the question until they do lol.
Really if we wanna see older manga then more people have to ask, get on thur facebook page and show them that we wanna see older manga, use the question section in the shonen jump survey that comes every week to ask them.
If Jojo part 1 and 2 prove to be a success next year then they will have no reason to not do older manga because it will show that the fans are not put off by older series.
But the thing is that JoJo has a current anime, it's scarcely comparable to doing other older series. Like… What other classics have had recent enough anime to warrant such attention, let alone popular ones? Play Ball, maybe, back in 2006, but no-one over here really watched it. I feel like they'd either need to promote comics outside of such circumstances a ton (which won't happen, Viz seem to have issues advertising outside of themselves), or go purely with established creators, which is a limited pool.
Don't get me wrong, I want a Jump Classics line more than anything (if only for some english Hisashi Eguchi material, or Wilderness Boy Isam) (OH AND FOR THE PODCAST OBVIOUSLY), but it might not be worth getting hopeful about.
From Baidu :
Maybe Viz should try out Level E. It's short and by a well-known author. Also I want it. And then we can work on continuing Gintama maybe.
From Baidu :
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Young Jump Issue 50:
Usogui (Lead CP)
Kingdom
Minamoto-kun Monogatari
Terra Formars
Tokyo Ghoul:re
Himouto! Umaru-chan
Golden Kamui
Gunjou Senki (CP)
Youkai Shoujo
Riku-dou
Gokukoku no Brynhildr
Shiratama-kun (CP)
Nijigen Jumpin'
Barcelona no Taiyou
Yokohama-sen Doppelgänger
Innocent
Purple Shikibu
Boku Girl
Shishunki Circus
Liar Game
Kakuriyo Monogatari
Hamatora
Young Jump Issue 51:
Lead CP: Terra Formars
CP: Hibi Rock, Kenkouki (Special Chapter)
Special Chapter: Kyou no Terra Formars wa Oyasumidesu。
@The:
Maybe Viz should try out Level E. It's short and by a well-known author. Also I want it. And then we can work on continuing Gintama maybe.
The Gintama ship has sailed with Viz.
@The:
Maybe Viz should try out Level E. It's short and by a well-known author. Also I want it. And then we can work on continuing Gintama maybe.
Gintama English publication is NEVER COMING BRICK.
Gin Tama ended up being a terrible mistake for viz, even with how good they got at adapting it after its short serialisation in the magazine. just… yeah, not happening
Care to explain why?
It performed decidedly poorly, along with other acquisitions around the same time. Like… To the point where it, Reborn!, Strawberry 100%, Kurohime and Bobobo were all cancelled well before their time. To bring back any of those series is a substantial risk, even with their new digital market, and it seems a safer bet to go with untested material, with more potential for success.
I mean it could happen, but... I just don't see it.
Since it has been brought up, for those who read it: what did y'all think of the whole zura approach?
For their translation, at least from what I remembered, they opted to call him a different name (wrong name) everytime.
Shounen Jump Issue 51:
Takujou no Ageha (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
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Boku no Hero Academia
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
?????
?????
?????
World Trigger
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (CP)
Nisekoi
Bleach
Moto Youkai Pochimaru (One Shot)
Judos
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Hi-Fi Cluster
Sporting Salt
Shounen Jump Issue 52:
Cover, Lead CP: E-Robot (New Series)
CP: Nisekoi, Boku no Hero Academia, Takujou no Ageha
A part of me is just waiting till a company just does the manga buffet system perfect. I really love Crunchyroll's selection, I read like everything, but they need to flip it and do what they did with anime; everything should be free but the most recent chapter. And then they need to work out something to get the back catalog for those major series like Attack on Titan and Fairy Tail. I get why they can't and why those involved are afraid to, but I just wanted to get it off my chest that I honestly believe in that whole, "The manga industry is like 7 years behind the anime industry(in America)," thing.They can do whatever they want with their properties, but if everyone just reads everything for free and legally buffet style on Crunchyroll in 5 years, I won't be surprised in the slightest.
Where was I going with this? Oh yeah. Crunchyroll. Streaming. Basically streamlined the entire translation and subtitles encoding industry. They push them translations out like nothing now en masse. Once a legit company does that for manga with the right system, I don’t think them penny-translating a series like Gintama would be that surprising at all.
The mangaka for a Peach Pluck and Garden reminds me of an early Hiroyuki Takei. His characters are pretty expressive and his designs are pretty enjoyable to me. Peach Pluck wouldn't in today's Jump. Garden has some more serializarion potential but still needs some more polish and concepts. To me it is a wildcard. I will definitely be anticipating his future work.
The mangaka for a Peach Pluck and Garden reminds me of an early Hiroyuki Takei. His characters are pretty expressive and his designs are pretty enjoyable to me. Peach Pluck wouldn't in today's Jump. Garden has some more serializarion potential but still needs some more polish and concepts. To me it is a wildcard. I will definitely be anticipating his future work.
I agree on that part. It needs more polish, but I think that one shot is definitely has more potential than Peach Pluck.
A part of me is just waiting till a company just does the manga buffet system perfect. I really love Crunchyroll's selection, I read like everything, but they need to flip it and do what they did with anime; everything should be free but the most recent chapter. And then they need to work out something to get the back catalog for those major series like Attack on Titan and Fairy Tail. I get why they can't and why those involved are afraid to, but I just wanted to get it off my chest that I honestly believe in that whole, "The manga industry is like 7 years behind the anime industry(in America)," thing.They can do whatever they want with their properties, but if everyone just reads everything for free and legally buffet style on Crunchyroll in 5 years, I won't be surprised in the slightest.
Where was I going with this? Oh yeah. Crunchyroll. Streaming. Basically streamlined the entire translation and subtitles encoding industry. They push them translations out like nothing now en masse. Once a legit company does that for manga with the right system, I don’t think them penny-translating a series like Gintama would be that surprising at all.
Except they still wouldn't be able to handle the biggest problem: illegal scans getting the material a week ahead of time, and people believing that the official product is lagging behind.
Jump seems to be trying to work on the leak problem.
The gap between the scanlations and the official release is now four days. It's a step, but hopefully, the gap will start to dwindle as the crackdown effort increases.
Jump seems to be trying to work on the leak problem.
The gap between the scanlations and the official release is now four days. It's a step, but hopefully, the gap will start to dwindle as the crackdown effort increases.
They can really only do so much as long as it remains a physical distribution system, since in order to get it out everywhere at release it needs to arrive at some places early. Only way it could ever really be stopped is a full switch to digital
Yeah either that or digital first, physical magazine later, but that is not going to happen any time soon, cause they would loose a lot of money if they do that.
Yeah. It is an understatement to say the leak problems are substantial. But, even if they can't be completely eliminated, I think it could still work if a company gets a quality library and backcatalogue. Just like whiners who complain about the more accurate official translations when they buy a volume after reading hundreds of chapters illegally that have all kinds of nonsense translations they have gotten attached to, readers who read the series backcatalogue on a legit site would get attached to that translation and reading environment. There are still a ton of free users on crunchyroll who wait a week for episodes just because Crunchyroll is the site they like to interact with.
There is also the aspect of basically disheartening scanlators. Crunchyroll's quick releases have basically convinced a lot of fansubbers to just pack it up and just release rips of crunchyroll streams for shows. Why put so much work into something that is gonna be made available in superior quality in the span of moments in internet time?
Crunchyroll is good progress in discouraging scanlators, so that's great, but I do wonder how well it works as a financial model for both the site and the works available there for free.
i personally would pay for an equivalent of what anime has for manga (if the price is reasonable, not the joke of Naruto French simultrad) and continue to read scan as spoilers anyway.
welp, you had me till that last bit, at least. I don't think any model's going to seem fair enough to people whilst they still insist on reading the illegal release. Which… is probably cynical of me. But it's like... having stuff available for free makes people believe that they deserve it for free. So even if a few are willing to have it all, both read illegally and pay down, it's unlikely that those people will be anything other than a minority.
This Week's Jump Comic Sales:
01. Naruto #71 (590,855 / 626,418)
02. Shokugeki no Souma #10 (197,351)
03. Toriko #32 (180,085)
07. Boku no Hero Academia #1 (71,575)
09. Naruto Hiden Jin no Sho Character Official Databook (59,664)
13. Soul Catcher(S) #7 (41,257)
31. Kono Oto Tomare! #7 (28,998)
32. Hinomaru Zumou #2 (28,864)
35. Captain Tsubasa Rising Sun #2 (26,801)
37. Illegal Rare #4 (26,170)
45. Jojolion #8 (23,151 / 347,756)
@Maxy:
welp, you had me till that last bit, at least. I don't think any model's going to seem fair enough to people whilst they still insist on reading the illegal release. Which… is probably cynical of me. But it's like... having stuff available for free makes people believe that they deserve it for free. So even if a few are willing to have it all, both read illegally and pay down, it's unlikely that those people will be anything other than a minority.
Well given thant the manga i would own without scanlation would be around zero, i have not your negative view wrt piracy. There have been some studies that have shown that those who pirate the most cultural goods were also among the biggest legal consumer. I’mpretty sure that if Seven Deadly Sins had his volumes in the top 10 month French sales right from the start, it is because of his already great success among scan readers. The popularity of manga is partly thanks to the scan and a large number of those who don’t pay wouldn’t have paid anyway if scan didn’t exist.
If I lived in Japan, with a magazine for 2,5 dollars per week and in every near store, then I would buy it every week. I would still read the scanlation earlier, but only of the titles I am really into, like One Piece. I would also buy the volumes of the titles that I really love.
While scanlations are great and free, they aren't really the same thing as a physical format. I love a lot more reading in physical format than in the screen, maybe I'm the exception, but even books like Harry Potter when I found a computer format I preferred to read it physical.
Now manga here in my country is a really problem to get them in physical format, but even still I buy some of them, but mainly One Piece :P
The fact that IR is there is so funny that I can't even laugh.:getlost:
Also, was expecting 6 digits to Hero.
Well given thant the manga i would own without scanlation would be around zero, i have not your negative view wrt piracy. There have been some studies that have shown that those who pirate the most cultural goods were also among the biggest legal consumer. I’mpretty sure that if Seven Deadly Sins had his volumes in the top 10 month French sales right from the start, it is because of his already great success among scan readers. The popularity of manga is partly thanks to the scan and a large number of those who don’t pay wouldn’t have paid anyway if scan didn’t exist.
There's a good argument there for scanlations being responsible for discovering what manga you want to own. I'm not gonna lie and say that back when I pirated I wasn't influenced to buy stuff by it. I think it's the scope of the thing that's the issue. It being there for early spoilers, it preceding the legal release, it being more than a few chapters of any given work…. If reduced to a certain level, like... Ooh, I don't know, it only ever being the first volume, that'd be a great teaser system. It's when people continue to consume into the double digits of chapters, into the 100s, 200s, et cetera et cetera, that the argument of it being a good influence lessens dramatically.
Also "those who don't pay wouldn't have paid anyway if the scan didn't exist" is remarkably close to the argument that "those who don't pay won't pay anyway", so I'm gonna side-eye that a bit.
The big question there (at least as far as I see it) is if they can manage to get the cost scaling to a proper place where they can hire pros to do it, at least for the important properties. Last I heard, most of the CR-exclusive manga is paying starving student rates, which basically just guarantees that they will only ever have scanlation-level quality. Sure, some of the people willing to work for pennies will actually be good, but they're not going to stick around if the industry as a whole can't support a living wage.
A question just for fun: if one piece were to end, let's say 3 months from now. Would you wait till the official version came out, or go ahead and read the final chapter on the faster scanalation sites albeit in questionable quality?
A question just for fun: if one piece were to end, let's say 3 months from now. Would you wait till the official version came out, or go ahead and read the final chapter on the faster scanalation sites albeit in questionable quality?
I will wait for the official version, but will probs get spoiled at some point.
A question just for fun: if one piece were to end, let's say 3 months from now. Would you wait till the official version came out, or go ahead and read the final chapter on the faster scanalation sites albeit in questionable quality?
Meh, it would mostly likely be an epilogue chapter, so I wouldn't mind being spoiled.
I still not get it why 3 months.
A question just for fun: if one piece were to end, let's say 3 months from now. Would you wait till the official version came out, or go ahead and read the final chapter on the faster scanalation sites albeit in questionable quality?
I would literally have to go on a media blackout for four days, which isn't possible for me.
I'd opt for the scanlation (that isn't ShitPanda's) and then re-read the official translation.
The big question there (at least as far as I see it) is if they can manage to get the cost scaling to a proper place where they can hire pros to do it, at least for the important properties. Last I heard, most of the CR-exclusive manga is paying starving student rates, which basically just guarantees that they will only ever have scanlation-level quality. Sure, some of the people willing to work for pennies will actually be good, but they're not going to stick around if the industry as a whole can't support a living wage.
I can't say I know much about the translation industry, but it was always my assumption that Crunchyroll had more of an editorial issue, than a translation quality one. There is probably not one manga that I have read on Crunchyroll that I haven't found typos in, but they are always stuff like a repeated word, or something like too instead of to or there instead of their. I haven't ever come away from a translation and been like, "I think this person just totally made up that dialogue….." which was an unavoidable occurrence with basically every scan I ever read.
Like I said for the anime, their breaking of the fansubbers was because of both the swiftness and quality of translation and subtitling. In this case it is translation and lettering, and I think they just haven't got the later down yet. It is hard to think that their manga translators are of a significantly lower quality than those for their shows right now, some of which are surely just bombing in the view counts(here's looking at you, Majin Bone(...I watch it every week...)). I would assume that they would try to use the translators/company they already have for anime scripts, and they seemed to be pretty good people based on an interview with their boss on Anime New Network's podcast a while ago, and he seemed to care a great deal about making sure they had fair wages.
A question just for fun: if one piece were to end, let's say 3 months from now. Would you wait till the official version came out, or go ahead and read the final chapter on the faster scanalation sites albeit in questionable quality?
I would wait. I have both a subscription to Viz's digital Weekly Shonen Jump and the physical Japanese Weekly Jump, and I don't think I have read a scan since probably a few weeks into Shonen Jump Alpha, when it was still two weeks behind. When it comes down to it, it is just people whining about how they aren't catered to, but they are still people, but so are the creators. The main reason I dislike scans is because of just how cool a lot of authors seem. Like, if I met almost any of them, and they would never ask, but if they did, I would never want to tell them I just pirate all their stuff. On the other hand, almost every scan site I have ever been to has been the shadiest, gross aura exuding places on the net. The worst part is when you hear some of the people who run them, and they 100% treat it as nurtured business that they are like the extinguished CEO of. A business of pirating other people's work.
But, this is all just my philosophy on it, and I think anyone else's is valid too. I basically just stick with the whole "If you don't want your mom seeing you doing it, then maybe you shouldn't be doing it at all," mentality, with the mom being the creator in this case. This though, is a very moralistic view that probably only people who are easily susceptible to shame would understand. I know that there are probably droves of people that would love to shout at the creator's faces that they pirate all their work and that they are stickin' it to em, but I definitely don't want to be one of those people, or even associate with them.
P.S.
I totally avoided Arlong Park for a week so I could read the last chapter, well chapters, of Naruto on Monday without getting spoiled.
I like to quote Gabe when it comes to pirating illegally, as I completely agree. "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem".
For example, there is no way for me to purchase an English version of current Berserk episodes here in America. For the released 37 volumes I'm happy to own them, but it is not possible to support current releases where I am. For these reasons it's my view that illegal manga is alright when there is no acceptable alternative. However, if a quality product is available in your region alongside the release in the original country (for example English WSJ), then there is no excuse not to support it.
As for the "One Piece ending in three months" question; I would read the official release, though this doesn't really apply as I only follow WSJ as it is.
if there's no acceptable alternative then you just don't read it, surely.
Very interesting views from all of ya, it's good to see we all have such diverse opinions on piracy, it's a huge change to as much as a year ago. With One Piece as with Naruto, I'd just wait to read the end. The official release is only days after the leak, I don't lose anything holding out that long. With comics I read in volumes like Boku Girl or Our Metamorphoses I might be tempted to look at spoilers for the end as they come, with the larger wait, but I'd like to think I can hold on.
Also I totally get Gordanham's mention of shame at the top of this page. I'm prone to like… catholic levels of guilt about doing illegal things nowadays, and that's a great driving force to stick away from scans.
Disappointed Soul Catcher(s) isn't gaining any. Hope it sticks around in Jump Next.
Shounen Jump Issue 51:
Takujou no Ageha (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
One Piece
Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
Haikyuu!!
Boku no Hero Academia
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Toriko
Gintama
World Trigger
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (CP)
Nisekoi
Bleach
Moto Youkai Pochimaru (One Shot)
Judos
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Hi-Fi Cluster
Sporting Salt
Shounen Jump Issue 52:
Cover, Lead CP: E-Robot (New Series)
CP: Nisekoi, Boku no Hero Academia, Takujou no Ageha
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
**Young Jump Issue 49 Color Pages:
Golden Kamui
Nijigen Jumpin'
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Also, it is announced that Destroy and Revolution will become weekly serialization (starting from upcoming spring).
Great first week sales for Boku no Hero Academia vol 1; reminiscent of Souma's vol 1 (71.3k in first week)
I got a subscription for the English WSJ, so I would wait for the official version of One Piece, final chapter or not, like I usually do anyway.
On piracy, I'm not much of a moralistic guy. I get why a person would pirate, or would not pirate. I do my fair share of pirating in various areas. But in the end of the day, the action of buying is essentially your voting power as a consumer. You pick what you want to support, and you go do it. So I still subscribe to ESJ, I'll still buy some anime and games when I can, and there are a few manga series that I plan on buying physical copies of, while also reading them online (be it legally or not).
Great first week sales for Boku no Hero Academia vol 1; reminiscent of Souma's vol 1 (71.3k in first week)
To be precise, Souma's tank sale is higher than Hero Academia.
@Kaizou:
Nijigen Jumpin'
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what's the manga about? lives of nude artists..?:ninja: