The "Shueisha" Thread

Gizmo

Is this the first year APforums isn't having a Jump Festa thread?

The One Piece Podcast will cover the event on the podcast tomorrow. If you want a JF thread though (for One Piece), I'd say go for it and make one in the One Piece section, or maybe just a general one to cover all the news from Jump Fiesta in the manga/anime thread and post any news from the event that people are willing to gather.

That said, the OPP panel did just finish recently. Looking at the OPP's twitter, it seems that Oda said that the "Big Player" that was teased last year and was supposed to make a major move didn't show up yet and that the big player will most likely show up the following year knocks on wood. And there will be bigger boobs. There's probably other juicy news/stories related to One Piece, but there tends to only be one major tidbit teased about the upcoming manga story at the JF panel IIRC.

MiyamotoMusashi

I thought Aokiji and DD were the big players since they appeared only a few chapters after the JF last year, hmm

Enzeru

A bit disappointed by the lack of news, but it's my own fault for getting my hopes up.

Maxy B

@Ordinary:

Complaining about swearing and then swearing? I sense irony lol.

Your reading experience seems to be plagued by memories of other bad manga. The art was quite rough, but like you yourself said, there is potential. For me, more potential than everyone else. I didn't know they submitted it in english, I thought it was translated. If you hate it on a personal level, then it's really just your opinion. Sorry for my two cents.
You really liked Sweat Man more than Morning Star?

Believe it or not, I am not a shonen comic. I can swear in this instance without it being irony (though if you want an example of how I hold true, the podcast where I explicitly explore Weekly Shonen Jump titles is deliberately curse-free, to be appropriate to the subject matter).

My experience was mostly plagued by a shit one-shot, but yeah, it is just my opinion. Gonna blow your mind here, all judgement by a singular person is personal. That's a given. Objectively there are probably nicer things I could say about it, sure, but I think even then it wouldn't be very good.

Sweat man though…. Yeah, I liked it more, but I didn't really like it much at all. The concept was strong, the plot itself could have worked, but the execution was poor, the ending didn't really work for me and it felt like there was too much of a dissonance in the art between the protagonist and the... sidekick, i guess i'd call him. Not to mention the slightly worrying gay gag (redeemed slightly by it not being about that as much as that he'd get given too much attention and his sweaty secret would be revealed, which was kinda a funny train of thought). But yeah, importantly, I came away from Sweat Man feeling like I'd gained something from the experience. Morning Star didn't accomplish that.

Also don't apologise for your two cents, it makes for an interesting discussion at the least.

Kdom

But swearing in shounen is quite common. How does it disqualify this title ?

Aohige_AP

Adventures of Mr Fuck in Arizona went unnoticed I see

Maxy B

@Kdom:

But swearing in shounen is quite common. How does it disqualify this title ?

it doesn't disqualify it, it's just copious enough to be bothersome. And is it really that common in shonen? I can't say I've noticed it much (I recall Sket Dance swearing at least once) outside of scanlations, but then I'm mostly just thinking about recent Jump, so maybe I'm way off the mark. It'd be interesting if I were.

sniperking323

@Aohige_AP:

Adventures of Mr Fuck in Arizona went unnoticed I see

At first, I thought this was an actual title and I wanted to read it. But then I realized that you were talking about Beelzebub

Which by the way…

@Maxy:

it doesn't disqualify it, it's just copious enough to be bothersome. And is it really that common in shonen? I can't say I've noticed it much (I recall Sket Dance swearing at least once) outside of scanlations, but then I'm mostly just thinking about recent Jump, so maybe I'm way off the mark. It'd be interesting if I were.

Did you miss Chapter 225 of Beelzebub or something??? :wassat:

Maxy B

I did! I'm not reading the anthology of late, so i've missed out on the whole america arc. Between that and Hiruma in ES21 (if i'm remembering right) I guess there's enough precedent for swearing that I shouldn't mark it down just for having it (but rather because the swearing was just another part of the one-shot's naff writing)

Kdom

I would think it is as common as a manga about a school delinquent…

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But maybe I'm biased because I just started Be-Bop Highschool

maxterdexter

Interesting things that reveal the number of covers that a series had this year:

One Piece: 8 (3 Because of the movie)
Toriko: 5
Kuroko's Basket, Nisekoi, Assassination Classroom and the Group covers (counting the Heroes vs Villians/Rivals/LoveInterest as one): 3
Soma's Shokugeki, Hayuki (voleyball), Naruto and Gintama (One for the movie): 2
New Series: The one with the weird old style drawings, Insane Cupid, Hachi, The Youkai Affairs Office, The one about Baseball, The Kenshin Wanabee, Soul Catchers, Edisson and World Trigger: One each on their first chapter
Old Series: Bleach, Psy, Kochikame, Beelzebub: One
Special Cases:
Yako Space patroll: It's technicaly a group one, but I'll count it to him.
Hunter x Hunter movie: Last time we are sure that Togashi has worked.

I'll go look in the thread my report from last year.

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@Bonney_AP:

All the covers from WSJ

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-K95pT77P5Vw/UMYhsnez9zI/AAAAAAAABgY/P6QFqL3V8Cc/s1600/ALL_COVER_2012.jpg

@maxterdexter:

Naruto had the mayority of this year's covers, with 6.
Next: Group shoots, One Piece, Bleach, Toriko, Sket Dance, Medaka Box (counting the half gintama and the 2 different covers of the anime launch with Kuroko's as one full) with 3
Gintama (see medaka), Kuroko's (see medaka), Bakuman, Belzebub, Psy something something, Nisekoi, AssClass 2
Kochikame and the rest of the newbies 1

Got the info. Last year's covers totals.

Big_Bad_Lith

Sweat Man's author has obviously been playing too much Hakan. And Hakan is hilariously awesome, but that's because he's a husky red Turk in a fighting game, not a Japanese high schooler. D

Golden Rabbit was a cute little one-shot, but I don't think I'd care to read much more of it. C

Morning Star had great art and a good sense of scale and atmosphere. I'd love to read more of it. Didn't notice that it was wordy or profane. B

Boom had some interesting art, but also some ugly art. didn't like the MC's power of "I have bombs that just do whatever". though I'd watch it as an OVA, like Green Leaves. C

Team Before Daybreak was just kinda… eh... in the end he just killed hitler and got it done with? okay. I don't know, it just felt like some wankery over how badass vampires are. D

El Viento del Norte had nice character designs and some poses, but aside from a little yuri it was super generic. with more exploration into other characters/powers, it could be cool. C

Voted for Morning Star, natch. But I think Boom and El Viento have promise as well.

ItzWizz

I voted for BOOM. I liked how the author used a very simple idea of catch as the theme. And I think the most important thing is the idea. The art needs a lil bit of improvement but its really good for a one shot. I see a lot of potential in this one-shot.

Ordinary

@ItzWizz:

I voted for BOOM. I liked how the author used a very simple idea of catch as the theme.

Catch? Isn't the theme of "Boom" explosions and bombs? Maybe you mean Golden Rabbit?

ItzWizz

@Ordinary:

Catch? Isn't the theme of "Boom" explosions and bombs? Maybe you mean Golden Rabbit?

Oops.. I Wanted to talk about golden rabbit first. The idea was good but the art didn't really appeal to me. I voted for BOOM cuz of the reasons I stated on my last post, lots of potential and solid artwork for a one shot. And also I think bombs are super cool

Cruithne

So what'd you guys think of those little Christmas strips in Jump Alpha today?

Somewhere

They were fun little stuff.
Also, the Bleach and Naruto strips were far better than how the series have been in recent years, by virtue of having the personality of their early years.

redon

January covers.

Kdom

From mangahelpers
@Kaizou:

Issue 6/7:
One Piece (Lead CP)
Toriko
Naruto
Nisekoi (Full Color Chapter)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Kuroko no Basket
Shokugeki no Souma
Soul Catcher(S)
Gazer (CP, One Shot)
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Haikyuu!! (CP)
Iron Knight
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
World Trigger
Gintama
Bleach
Nisekoi
Beezlebub
Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin
Hachi

Issue 8:
Cover: Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Lead CP: Haikyuu!!
CP: Bleach, Soul Catcher(S), Paltenon-kun (One Shot by Retsu (author of Genson! Kodai Seibutsushi Pakky))

Skadi

SO, 1 month hiatus for Toriko starting from now :C (mentioned on the toriko spoilers and later confirmed)

No Maam

@Skadi:

SO, 1 month hiatus for Toriko starting from now :C (mentioned on the toriko spoilers and later confirmed)

Ah.

Well that sucks

Bonney_AP

This Week's Jump Comic Sales:

11. Naruto #67 (61,895 / 879,796)
15. Kuroko no Basket #25 (53,664 / 532,467)
24. One Punch-man #5 (37,406 / 307,747)
25. Bleach #61 (37,203 / 505,811)
31. Kakuriyo Monogatari #1 (31,233)
36. One Piece #72 (28,416 / 2,602,053)
40. To Love-Ru Darkness #9 (26,476 / 250,967)
41. Gintama #52 (25,601 / 293,870)
50. Shokugeki no Souma #5 (22,313 / 271,570)

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Kaizou 10

The several pictures for Rurouni Kenshin live-adaptation movie is updated.

! Shinomori Aoshi (Iseya Yuusuke)

! Seta Soujirou (Kaimiki Ryuunosuke)

! Makimachi Misao (Tsuchiya Tao)

! Okina (Tanaka Min)

! Shishio Makoto (Fujiwara Tatsuya) and Ten Swords (Juppon Gatana)

Aohige_AP

And I see the Ten Swords behind him!
Alas, no Evengelion giant, lol.

Kaizou 10

@Aohige_AP:

And I see the Ten Swords behind him!
Alas, no Evengelion giant, lol.

Nope, there going to be a giant (well, I'm not sure it actually going to be that big).

auem

i wanna see Fuji..how will they make him…CG..?

as manga characters almost always look like 'international' casts,a Japanese live film adaptation somehow dampens my enthusiasm....same happened while watching Death Note...
though i liked the look of Kenshin...

Kaizou 10

@auem:

i wanna see Fuji..how will they make him…CG..?

as manga characters almost always look like 'international' casts,a Japanese live film adaptation somehow dampens my enthusiasm....same happened while watching Death Note...
though i liked the look of Kenshin...

Well, there going to be actor for Fuji (not sure about if he is just doing voice or actually acting). So, they can either make Fuji big with CG or just bring actor with Yao Ming's size.

Aohige_AP

I wonder why we don't see him in the pic then.

As for size, I expect they will take a middle ground, and just go for an "unusally large man" instead of a giant.
The first movie did a good job of skirting the line of comical exaggeration and the plausible.

Kaizou 10

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Kaizou 10

@Aohige_AP:

I wonder why we don't see him in the pic then.

Maybe, it would be big surprise until the movie releases?

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I believe no one has uploaded the volume covers for next month's Shounen Jump series, so here they are:

Toriko Volume 28 **

Beelzebub Volume 25** **

Nisekoi Volume 10** **]

Haikyuu!! Volume 9** **

Hime-dol!! Volume 1**

Hachi -Tokyou 23-ku- Volume 1
Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin Volume 1

Gliblord

Haikyuu's latest volume cover makes me want to read the series

MiyamotoMusashi

@Gliblord:

Haikyuu's latest volume cover makes me want to read the series

Try it, it´s not that special but finally a sports series done right in Jump

Dryish

@Gliblord:

Haikyuu's latest volume cover makes me want to read the series

Pretty much what Musashi said. It's not very long and it's following the traditional sports manga story development model very closely, but it isn't really hurt by that whatsoever. If you go into it expecting another Eyeshield, you're not exactly going to get that cause it's far more realistic, but it's still funny and interesting enough in its own right to be able to float just fine.

Storywise it's pretty much wrapping up the "let's make sure everyone plays together and to everyone's strengths" phase that comes right after the "let's get our best team together" phase, and seems to be moving onto the first real action-packed period, so now is definitely time to jump on board because it's only going to keep getting better from now on.

As a caveat, though, its art is not very good. Not by any standards. But if you can get over that fact, I would say it's definitely worth giving a shot.

Kdom

Haikyu has an art that does great with a sport serie in my opinion. An original trait that will probably be completely erased in its animation like usual.

Shigan

I think Haikyuu has some of the best art in Jump by far. It's really nice.

It's also a fun sports manga with a great cast. One of my favourites currently.

Kaizou 10

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Dryish

@Shigan:

I think Haikyuu has some of the best art in Jump by far. It's really nice.

I really wouldn't say. Just compare this:

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to this:

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That's obviously exaggerating it a little because I'm contrasting a normal training scene to a purposely strong climax of a chapter, but that's what the art is like most of the time. Of course it gets better and more impressive when the mood suddenly changes into a more serious one, which I think is one of the greatest things and a definite strength of the manga as a work of that medium, but the art is pretty much that crude most of the time and might very well put some people off.

I know I was a bit weirded out by it at the start, but I've always been the type to get over bad art if the story in it is compelling enough. Although, only to a certain point. I can't for the life of me bring myself to read any of Osamu Tezuka's manga because the art style is just atrocious to my eyes.

Kaizou 10

Here are the covers for Jump SQ. series, as well:

Tegami Bachi Volume 17

Owari no Seraph Volume 4

Te to Kuchi Volume 2

Shigan

@Toraish:

I really wouldn't say. Just compare this:

! http://img.batoto.net/comics/2012/05/05/h/read4fa4fb5ea5739/img000004.png

to this:

! http://img.batoto.net/comics/2013/12/30/s/read52c13cfdb4471/img000018.png

That's obviously exaggerating it a little because I'm contrasting a normal training scene to a purposely strong climax of a chapter, but that's what the art is like most of the time. Of course it gets better and more impressive when the mood suddenly changes into a more serious one, which I think is one of the greatest things and a definite strength of the manga as a work of that medium, but the art is pretty much that crude most of the time and might very well put some people off.

I know I was a bit weirded out by it at the start, but I've always been the type to get over bad art if the story in it is compelling enough. Although, only to a certain point. I can't for the life of me bring myself to read any of Osamu Tezuka's manga because the art style is just atrocious to my eyes.

Tbh, I think the first example looks pretty good and on the other hand the I don't really like the art style of the second manga (I think it's Souma), so I don't see the problem. But it's not the first time I've heard people call Haikyuu's art bad, so maybe it's just my weird preference.

Kaizou 10

@Shigan:

Tbh, I think the first example looks pretty good and on the other hand the I don't really like the art style of the second manga (I think it's Souma), so I don't see the problem. But it's not the first time I've heard people call Haikyuu's art bad, so maybe it's just my weird preference.

I think it depends on people's taste; some say they like Haikyuu's art and other say that Souma's art is a best.

For me, I think both of them are really good and both of them have different taste.

Shigan

@Kaizou:

I think it depends on people's taste; some say they like Haikyuu's art and other say that Souma's art is a best.

For me, I think both of them are really good and both of them have different taste.

I just love how energetic and unique the characters in HQ are drawn, whereas Souma to me looks like the "generic anime style," if that's even a thing, and I've never understood its appeal even though it's very popular.

Dryish

Nah, it's not "bad" per se, I wouldn't ever classify it as such, but it's definitely very, very crude at times.

Furudate's style with most of his human characters is to draw them anatomically distorted when they are in motion just to emphasize the feeling of speed and strength, and that's only not present when things get really serious. The other thing that I think can be hard for some to swallow is that his character drawing quality drops a lot when he's drawing casual scenes for entertainment, sometimes almost to the level of Togashi's scribbles. It's just harder to spot because the surroundings look pretty good regardless of the situation. Admittedly, that's something that most mangaka do because it's so much easier for them, but I think in Haikyuu's case it's stronger than it normally is.

I think that's actually very refreshing now that I've gotten used to it because it feels somehow exotic and different from everything else while not being hard to look at. But I can imagine a lot of people not liking it.

And I'm honestly really surprised how you can dislike Soma's art style. It's so detailed and vivid that I would probably name it the best and most pleasing to look at in Jump. But to each their own, I guess.

DarthAsthma

That pic Toraish posted does look a lot better from what I remember trying to get into Haikyuu(I failed to do so I think I read the first 10 chapters or so).
But yeah I remember strongly how anatomically distorted even considering his style stuff looked.
It's not a deal breaker per se but it really grates me. One of the reason I didn't keep up with Shingeki no Kyoujin(thank god for the anime).

Dryish

The funny thing is that the page I posted was from chapter 7 of Haikyuu, and the art has only gotten better from that point on. So we really shouldn't judge a new manga by its art in the first, say, twenty-five chapters. It's a thing that we keep coming back to time and time again, but never seem to learn.

DarthAsthma

@Toraish:

The funny thing is that the page I posted was from chapter 7 of Haikyuu, and the art has only gotten better from that point on. So we really shouldn't judge a new manga by its art in the first, say, twenty-five chapters. It's a thing that we keep coming back to time and time again, but never seem to learn.

Jesus that doesn't seem right with my memory, I guess I must have also gleaned through terrible raw scans worsening the impression it left. I should give it another try I guess.

Kaizou 10

Yomiuri Shinbun (Japan's newspaper) made a collaboration with Shounen Jump to celebrate the new year.

auem

^
what do those characters saying..?

No Maam

Maybe find a pick of Ichigo where he's not bleeding and looking like he wants to wear your scalp and be called Martha Washington ?

Kaizou 10

@auem:

^
what do those characters saying..?

The characters are saying their catchy phrases.

No Maam

@Kaizou:

The characters are saying their catchy phrases.

Wait, Ichigo has a catch phrase ?