Well all that meta stuff, like it or not, has helped Medaka rise in the ratings. And I guess Kumagawa helped a lot too, heck I would say he saved the series.
When it was just kumagawa I could be ok with it because he was supposed to be "unnaturaly unconfortable", but now that it has become the main objective it bothers me.
I think so, it's just that it is somewhat immune to cancellation than most of the bottom dwellers since it's tank sales top most of the series in WSJ.
And it's Pyuu to Fuku! Jaguar.
Thanks, I just keep forgetting how to spell that. lol
Now I will probably be crucified for this but who gives a damn. I honestly have HxH as my no.1 jump series followed by One Piece.
Now I will probably be crucified for this but who gives a damn. I honestly have HxH as my no.1 jump series followed by One Piece.
You're not the only one. I prefer Hunter X Hunter to One Piece as well.
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Make that three then, HxH is my favorite shonen jump title (favorite shonen in general).
Whether or not you get hooked on Sket Dance or not usually comes down to:
"Have you read Switch Off yet?"
That's the determining factor. Get through the first five volumes and judge.
Just expanding on this:
Most of the early chapters are fairly generic. 8-9 give you a good sense of how Sket handles drama. 10-12 introduce the Student Council and the sense of good-hearted rivalry that develops (there are no classic villains in the storyline). 24 really hits the trend of breaking the fourth wall, which the manga does especially well. 25-35 is the first major arc of the series (the Gachinko Vivage Battle), which is generally pretty decent though not up to later standards. And Switch Off starts in Chapter 42.
Personally, I was hooked by the end of the first major arc, thought it developed some nice depth after Switch Off, and was generally enjoying it until the Happy Birthday arc (Chapters 82-90). After that, it became my second-favorite currently running manga.
Hang in there, Kierkegaard.
Make that three then,
@THE:
I enjoyed the HXH more than One Piece
Since when did you guys count me out?
Plus, Mugiwara_no_ice and Bucephalus must be the biggest HxH's fans here.
I've yet to find a shounen jump I like more than One Piece.
@THE:
Since when did you guys count me out?
Plus, Mugiwara_no_ice and Bucephalus must be the biggest HxH's fans here.
I like them both the same. OP brings different things to the table IMO.
Just expanding on this:
Most of the early chapters are fairly generic. 8-9 give you a good sense of how Sket handles drama. 10-12 introduce the Student Council and the sense of good-hearted rivalry that develops (there are no classic villains in the storyline). 24 really hits the trend of breaking the fourth wall, which the manga does especially well. 25-35 is the first major arc of the series (the Gachinko Vivage Battle), which is generally pretty decent though not up to later standards. And Switch Off starts in Chapter 42.
Personally, I was hooked by the end of the first major arc, thought it developed some nice depth after Switch Off, and was generally enjoying it until the Happy Birthday arc (Chapters 82-90). After that, it became my second-favorite currently running manga.
I knew this manga was special the moment Tsubaki bitch-slapped that drama club president for tearing up Sket Dan's costumes. Great way of adding character depth.
One Piece is awesome, but HxH have better story, character development and characters. Togashi can add things in his story that most authors nowadays have some fear to put.
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I don't have certain, but I remember putting One Piece above HxH in a ranking, until I read all the arcs again and I changed my mind about it.
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I saw the series with other eyes and put HxH above OP, but not so much.
OP is and always will be, my favourite series, probably ever. Having said that, HxH is a very close second and I've only started reading it for just under 2 months. Speaks volumes for Togashi and his quality as an artist/storyteller really.
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I agree that hunter X hunter is a better series, I'm just more a fan of one piece but it's definitely in my top 5
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Hunter X Hunter is surely one of my favorite series of all time, because of its daring. Do I like it more than One Piece? I'm not sure: they're both very different manga.
One Piece is the epitome of shonen, and HxH is kind of shonen's deconstruction - the extremely cool black sheep of the family - but I love both very much.
There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.
Hunter x hunter and one piece are my two favourites shonen ever, although I always will put one piece one step ahead, because of subjective reasons such as which one has the ambientation, characters, etc.. I find more in accordance with my likes, personality, ectā¦
Hunter X Hunter is surely one of my favorite series of all time, because of its daring. Do I like it more than One Piece? I'm not sure: they're both very different manga.
One Piece is the epitome of shonen, and HxH is kind of shonen's deconstruction - the extremely cool black sheep of the family - but I love both very much.
This. This so much.
Although I love One Piece more than HxH because it's incredibly fun to read, and it has a miryad of little details that makes it something special; HxH is much, much darker, and as Silence said, it works as a deconstruction of the genre, using it's elements to show different situations, elements and conclusions (the Ant arc for example, where the main character never even faced the big boss of the arc. . .)
Both are excelent, and it's really just a matter of taste which one you prefer.
Both Hunter X Hunter and One Piece are great.
I would have a much easier time comparing them if One Piece didn't have twice as many chapters. The fact that the story is that much more advanced is probably why I like One Piece a good deal more. If Hunter X Hunter was as far along as One Piece was? Who knows, it might be different for me.
Hunter x hunter and one piece are my two favourites shonen since ever
Favorite shounen ever?
Well, other than One Piece, sorry but for me, GTO takes the cake.
No, not shounan 14 days, the original GTO. And no, not Shounan Junai Gumi either. GTO.
And what elseā¦ oh yeah, Spriggan. Loved it.
There, three of my favorite shounen manga, one each from each major shounen weekly mags.
Jump: OP
Magazine: GTO
Sunday: Spriggan
Although honestly, for Sunday, it's a tough toss-up between Spriggan and Mobile Police Patlabor.
.........what? What about Champion you say?
Uhh..... goes to think Nope, none. Not one. At least not one in my life time.
Before my time there were greats like Black Jack.
Baki can go suck a cow. End that shit already.
In general, WSJ has the best line-up. Ever since I can remember, Jump's always had the best.
Although after Dragon Ball ended, and GTO started in WSM, and Magazine started slaughtering WSJ.
There actually was a time when WSM took the throne and became the most popular shounen magazine on the market for a few years.
Then GTO ended in WSM, and One Piece started in WSJ. The rest is... well, you know the rest, history.
I feel that I should re-read Hunter x Hunter. Because I've read it once and I've enjoyed it a lot, but OP is definitely my preferred choice. However. I have found that re-reading Hunter x Hunter can deepen one's appreciation of the series. At first I didn't like the Gon vs Hanzo fight or the Genai Ryodan hostage situation, but upon re-reading found both of them to be much better, and the most logical choices for the writer to make. Also, I re-read a little bit of Killua vs Irumi back in Hunter Exams and realized that Togashi actually set up Killua's character arc in the Ants arc about 200 chapters in advance. Pretty damn awesome.
Btw, and maybe I shouldn't mention it here, for fear of derailing this threadā¦ but do you think Gon is a good protagonist? Personally I'm undecided on him. He was great in the Ants arc, where he was on the verge of breaking down throughout the arc, and slowly but surely... things go wrong. Very, very wrong. (God that shit was depressing.) But besides the Ant arc I don't remember being too fond of him. I thought Luffy was honestly a much better done take on that kind of a protagonist.
But regardless. Perhaps HxH is worthy of a re-read.
That kind of discussion belongs over in the Hunter X Hunter thread, yeah. Let's take it over there so as not to get too off topic in here.
Favorite shounen ever?
Well, other than One Piece, sorry but for me, GTO takes the cake.
No, not shounan 14 days, the original GTO. And no, not Shounan Junai Gumi either. GTO.
And what elseā¦ oh yeah, Spriggan. Loved it.There, three of my favorite shounen manga, one each from each major shounen weekly mags.
Jump: OP
Magazine: GTO
Sunday: SprigganAlthough honestly, for Sunday, it's a tough toss-up between Spriggan and Mobile Police Patlabor.
.........what? What about Champion you say?
Uhh..... goes to think Nope, none. Not one. At least not one in my life time.
Before my time there were greats like Black Jack.
Baki can go suck a cow. End that shit already.In general, WSJ has the best line-up. Ever since I can remember, Jump's always had the best.
Although after Dragon Ball ended, and GTO started in WSM, and Magazine started slaughtering WSJ.
There actually was a time when WSM took the throne and became the most popular shounen magazine on the market for a few years.Then GTO ended in WSM, and One Piece started in WSJ. The rest is... well, you know the rest, history.
What's GTO???? is it really that good?
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What's GTO???? is it really that good?
Great Teacher Onizuka, and yes, it's really that good.
What's GTO???? is it really that good?
Great Teacher Onizuka, a classic. I remember the scanlations on the web were terrible. Still, one of my all time favourites.
GTO is the best, and from what I read of Shounan Junai Gumi that is also very good.
Shounan 14 is meh.
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Death, Taxes,
and absolutely everyone praising the fuck out of GTO.
The scanlations on the web of GTO are still terrible. Only thing that kept me from finishing the series. And looks like the licensed manga has been out of print for a while.
GTO is Shounen? wow, i always thought of it as godly but not as a shounen, nor seinen. I donĀ“t know, i never really gave it much thought. All i did was enjoy it.
Pretty sure I've stumbled upon this GTO thing before, never read it or anything though. If you guys are praising it highly then I'll probably give it a look.
It's well worth your time: GTO is incredible.
There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.
It's well worth your time: GTO is incredible.
I've actually just started to read the first chapter on mangareader(should I read it somewhere else?). Quite like it so far.
why don't you just watch the anime, I didn't bother with GTO scans.
Obviously the manga is a lot better, but I get why people wouldn't bother. Worst scans ever.
Do the translations have to do with it or do they just look awful?
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I'm hoping One Piece has a deus ex machina come its ending. I want to see the Thousand Sunny randomly turn into Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann through the power of courage and nakamaship.
Considering the series started in 1997(?) the scans don't look too bad to me personally, I've definitely seen worse. Whatever, I'll try and find the best site for them somehow, I'm not too bothered in any case.
Do the translations have to do with it or do they just look awful?
Just at random, it's pages like this: http://www.mangareader.net/114-4194-6/great-teacher-onizuka/chapter-69.html. The colored speech bubbles just make the whole thing look incredibly jumbled and hard to read. I mean, you get what you paid for, but it eventually made reading the series a headache.
I've only started reading Shonen, but I'm slowly trying to read all the current Jump manga's that I find interesting.
Truthfully, if I was only allowed to read one series, it would probably be One Piece. I'm just that in love with the characters, the story and the world. It's got a really good balance between daring and simplicity, and is easy to read.
HxH has better writing, but there are too many times where I get frustrated with the characters, particularly Gon. They aren't as likeable, even if their development and the overall plot are brilliant.
I just read Bakuman. I like that more than HxH, but that's because I like it's plot and genre more than HxH or battle mangas in general, but I don't think it's production quality matches HxH or OP yet.
I wanted to ask though, how much of the Bakuman stuff about Jump is true? I feel like it's a great insight, and given me a whole new meaning to rankings. I think I might pay more attention to itā¦
Criticism aside, One Piece always has a special place in my heart because of the people I have met through it.
Vast majority of how the WSJ system works shown in Bakuman are real, and due to insider leaks, expose books, interviews, etc, we knew about them for many years now even before Bakuman came along.
Bakuman gave us more solid values to these though, instead of having vague idea of them.
It's rather fitting that this expose come from this duo.
Considering the fact Deathnote seemed to be the catalyst that made the WSJ editorial rethink their stance.
I don't know the back story, why was Death Note a catalyst?
In a quality sense, I consider HxH over OP, like I said before.
But in a ''sentimental'' sense, OP is more special for me than HxH. It was the first manga I have ever read.
@Lazy:
I don't know the back story, why was Death Note a catalyst?
Death Note had an extremely dark and nontraditional story that contrasted with other Jump works, where the protagonist was really the antagonist and it lacked or subverted a lot of traditional shounen elements - it wasn't the kind of thing that JUMP would normally publish.
It didn't fare so well in the weekly rankings, but it sold like hotcakes when its volumes hit the shelves and was hugely popular, causing the WSJ editors to reconsider their stance on canning a manga just because its ranking wasn't high - amongst other things. Now, if a manga's volumes sell really well, then even if it isn't doing so great on the questionnaires, they won't drop it from the magazine right away. Hunter x Hunter, Reborn, To Love-Ru and others have all benefited from this.
Does anyone have any information about that poll : http://ranking.goo.ne.jp/ranking/999/give_up_jump_comics/ ?
Apparently it's a top of the series that the readers of WSJ stopped to read. And I find it a bit strange.
Sorry if it's not the good place.
@Barbe:
Does anyone have any information about that poll : http://ranking.goo.ne.jp/ranking/999/give_up_jump_comics/ ?
Apparently it's a top of the series that the readers of WSJ stopped to read. And I find it a bit strange.
Sorry if it's not the good place.
It's an internet poll on goo on "POPULAR manga in WSJ that you stopped reading".
They don't reveal the poll count so we don't know what the base participant volume is, so validity and accuracy of the poll is anyone's guess.
Only thing I find strange on that poll is the fact Kochikame is 2nd place instead of 1st.
Everything else makes perfect sense.
1st: Naruto
2nd: Kochikame
3rd: One Piece
4th: Prince of Tennis
5th: Bleach
6th: Captain Tsubasa
7th: Hitman Reborn
8th: Hunter x Hunter
9th: Gintama
10th: Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
11th: Dragon Ball
12th: Bobobobo-bobobobo
13th: City Hunter
14th: Kinnikuman
15th: Hokuto no Ken
16th: Rurouni Kenshin
17th: Dr. Slump
18th: Yuyu Hakusho
19th: Pyu to fuku Jaguar
20th: Eyeshield 21
LOL at Jaguar, I don't think it was popular enough to warrant an entry in this poll.
What is amazing is though, Slam Dunk is nowhere in the top 30. What a boss.
There's a new series on JUMP #48, "Nisekoi" (Fake Love), gonna just toss my thoughts here since I doubt we'd have a thread for it any time soon, if ever.
! Let's see: Childhood promise, parents arranged engagement, bumping into the hot transfer student on your way to class which leads to a youth comedy of love and hate relationshipā¦
! Can this thing get any more cookie-cutter?? I can't even count the number of times people have MADE FUN of this model in manga/animes... Are JUMP editors so desperate for another love comedy they just don't give a rat about creativity any more?
! Time will tell~
Yeah what romatic mangas did good in Jump?
I only know of I's and Ichigo's 100%.
Kimagure Orange Road was perhaps the most successful romance manga in WSJ.
My favorite is Den-ei Shoujo, known in English speaking community as Video Girl Ai.
For me I''s and Orange Road were the two pinnacles of romance manga in WSJ, everything after the 20th century has been too fan service-ish for my taste.
That said, I'm curious how was OR considered the most successful romance manga in WSJ? Sales? TOC Rank? Popularity Poll? I do remember reading somewhere I''s came in 2nd on one year's overall average TOC rank scoreboard, trailing only One Piece.
Wasn't Hagiwara an assistant for Orange Road at one point? Or am I mistaken about things as per usual?
There's a new series on JUMP #48, "Nisekoi" (Fake Love), gonna just toss my thoughts here since I doubt we'd have a thread for it any time soon, if ever.
! Let's see: Childhood promise, parents arranged engagement, bumping into the hot transfer student on your way to class which leads to a youth comedy of love and hate relationshipā¦
! Can this thing get any more cookie-cutter?? I can't even count the number of times people have MADE FUN of this model in manga/animes... Are JUMP editors so desperate for another love comedy they just don't give a rat about creativity any more?
! Time will tell~
Doesn't jump already have 'Harisugawa in Mirror Land'?
