lock the Fairy Tail thread and never open it ever again
If it were that simple do you think there's even BE a Naruto thread? Leads to too many complaints and people randomly creating new threads.
There has to be SOME sort of outlet.
Throughout this month, we will be testing new features (like search) so you may experience some hiccups from time to time. We'll try to not be too disruptive...
Fairy Taint Discussion II
-
-
-
C'mon, let's merge Fairy Tail with the BLEACH/Naruto thread and just call it "Really shitty popular shounen."
I would suggest "The Three Little Trolls"
"Kishimoto built a troll made of straw and ninjas.
Mashima built a troll made of sticks using all his friendship.
Kubo built a troll made of white bricks."Or maybe something else…
But I guess it's better to leave this one alone. FT isn't "funny" as the others ones. -
Meh don't join it with the Bleach and Naruto thread, Fairy Tail is officially 5xtimes worse then Bleach and Bleach is already 5xtimes worse then Naruto.
Mashima is fucking awful…how can this shit keep selling so well and have an anime and people out of Japan love it, its fucking crazy, I just called my friend that is a huge fan of it an absolute dumbass(for liking the latests arcs) and even he is pissed at this situation, like people said it can't really go any lower then this and whoever tries to defend it or make up bullshit arguments is as fucking crazy and dumb as Mashima.
-
People talk about Fairy Tail over the phone?
Okay. I vote to get this thread locked now.
-
I've already gave my opinion on the question in the poll - Fairy Tail's bland, but it's not on the same level of "hilariously bad" that the other two have been at for years. I don't see why it should be merged with the thread for the other two; besides, this attitude could easily snowball until half of the threads on this sub-forum are combined into one.
-
My thought of the chapter:
Kubo: Kishi, your style seem to be changing from back then.
Kishi: Ah so you noticed huh. At first i only want to become mangaka that can bring the feel i get from dragonball to the reader, but that damned fish head keep beat me at that, then yours began, now i just want to troll like you!
Kubo: ha ha ha, i see.
Hiro: I will take the troll king title while you laught!
Kubo: I even give you time to diverse considering we serialize at diferent wolrd, but you keep colide with ours.
Kubo: Let me sumarize your recent chapter, basically its NotPreviousHokage using the NotGuild signature "revive spell" to bring OurPreciousNotNinja back without aging, while some fodder take on NotKonohamaru, NotKonohamaru try to put out NotRasengan but is not enought, then NotNaruto came for the rescue, next NotNaruto will train NotKonohamaru how to NotRasengan properly, am i wrong? I realized it faster than aizen and tsuchan that it doesn't even take away my boredom. -
I've already gave my opinion on the question in the poll - Fairy Tail's bland, but it's not on the same level of "hilariously bad" that the other two have been at for years.
No its worse, much worse.
People talk about Fairy Tail over the phone?
Okay. I vote to get this thread locked now.
Oo was that for me? lol no I talk to him in person.
-
can't we just put FT in the hall of shame, and post from there.
-
That's stupi…actually a pretty good idea. Fitting for such a toxic series. I like it. The idea has my support!
-
@Lazy:
And why are we considering merging Naruto and Bleach? Why are Naruto and Bleach merged together anyway?
You don't just closet off the minority who think differently.
They're what the threads evolved into.
Many, many, many months – years, even -- of discussion and debate resulted in the general consensus being that the board at large didn't care enough about the two series to respect them.
Naturally, on a forum where the booming popularity of Naruto and Bleach were the starting points for many of the manga readers in the One Piece fandom, those two series would get a lot of attention. The two threads were by far amongst the largest and most frequently posted in in the entire "Other Anime/Manga" subsection - arguably in the entire forum. A Naruto thread would reach its max post count in a matter of months -- compare that to other series here that haven't achieved a second thread despite existing for YEARS. But for years now the Naruto, then Bleach thread have become largely everyone talking about how disappointing both series had become - sometimes though intelligent comparison essays, sometimes through page-spanning memes, sometimes through walls of flame.
Making them difficult to moderate or police: let alone care about. The Naruto thread became a place where more or less anything went, which resulted in issues when people tried to behave like that elsewhere. Ultimately, the Bleach thread succumbed to this too. But as long as what went in those two threads was contained in them alone, things were fine.
They were merged recently as an experiment; they're unlikely to be split and frankly shouldn't be.
They're the same outlet for aggression whether they're separate or together - at least this way it's all in one place. If the Fairy Tail thread continues in a similar vein that the Naruto and Bleach threads did - largely every poster complaining about the manga and flaming wars between those who disagree - it will likely be merged too, though there are a few more people resistant to the idea than with the others.
People get downright hostile in here though, so I can see why it's on the table. Whether I agree with it or not.
-
You know guys, It's almost as if Mashima is being spiteful toward the anime writers for filling in his plot holes.
-
Personally I don't really want to toss Fairy Tale into the Bleach/Naruto thread because I do think 3 dedicated pieces of garbage in one place might be too much… (though no one has any problem juggling 50 Disney movies at once or 14 Cartoon Network series at once) and I don't know that its quite reached the point of sheer nobody cares/weekly trolling/hostility that the other two series have... but its definitely on its way there.
Right now Naruto and Bleach has reached a decent fusion point, people have figured out how to navigate the thread, and having the two series keeps it on topic instead of turning into whatever. A third? WHo knows, its probably na experiment worth trying eventually.
But a poll seems the fairest way to decide for the time being.
-
I think it's an absolutely terrible idea. Why?
I like the BleachxNaruto thread.
I hate this one with the passion of 7 burning suns.
Who likes this thread anyway?
It's not about the series being bad. It's about the thread's typical nature. -
I just noticed the poll here so I thought I'd give my say despite having not caught up with Fairy Tail for…awhile. It's more or less what I already said at the beginning of the Bleach/Naruto superthread but I think it bears repeating.
Fairy Tail is definitely on Bleach and Naruto's level of "quality" but I'd rather keep this thread seperate if only because there are a few guys that frequent this thread whom I have deep respect for that do happen to legitimately like Fairy Tail. I disagree with them but I like them enough where I can respect their opinion and see where they're coming from. Now I'm not saying they probably don't get their fair share of crap here, I admit I don't lurk this thread enough to make that call, but I know that if they're added in with Bleach and Naruto's thread the likelihood that they'll be antagonized by the larger amount of irate members is very high.
So for the sake of the 3 guys I'm thinking of, I like them too much to see them put up with that. I'm not saying they can't defend themselves, but I just respect them enough so I don't want to see them being the target of a gigantic mass of members most every week.
-
You shown more sense of friendship in one post than Mashima in 255 chapters.
can't we just put FT in the hall of shame, and post from there.
This sounds good.
-
I'm curious about the next chapter because of the title: 7 lonely years hopefully that will give us the reader information on the world of FT
-
I'm with Jay and Hiroy, for largely the same reasons.
Narutard and Blech definitely reached that "whatever" event horizon - that point at which people downright gave up on talking about the series anymore and just did whatevs.
I am not sure Fairly Fail is there yet - but it definitely hasn't achieved that sort of effortless equilibrium those threads did either. It's really negative in here, not clever or silly like those threads were. Fairy Tail gets a lot of (deserved) disdain but not much else.
I don't personally think that losing it to a merge would be a great loss in the long run, since the thread has definitely been toxic lately and it has an effect in more places than just here (i.e. people dogging on Naruto, Bleach, and Fairy Tail in any thread where other manga are discussed, just a general attitude that gets carried outside these walls)… but it's the number of people that don't really want a merge that makes me think it should get to stay as is, if only for a while longer.
That, and, the few folks that respectfully like the series and aren't Hinschers about it.
-
So… what was the point of the timeskip?
-
So… what was the point of the timeskip?
Wait, what's a point? Is a manga supposed to have one of those?
With regards to merging, FT is definitely as bad as Bleach and Naruto, but I there would be way too much chaos if we grouped them all together. Maybe once Naruto ends we can combine Bleach and FT.
-
-
I don't know guys, a random as shit doom dragon obliterating them while they hold hands is pretty hilarious in retrospect. Especially when they all start trying to hit it.
-
What's Romeo's magic choice anyway? Being a candle whenever Fairy Tail could not fork enough cash for their light bills?
-
I'm with Jay and Hiroy, for largely the same reasons.
Narutard and Blech definitely reached that "whatever" event horizon - that point at which people downright gave up on talking about the series anymore and just did whatevs.
I am not sure Fairly Fail is there yet - but it definitely hasn't achieved that sort of effortless equilibrium those threads did either. It's really negative in here, not clever or silly like those threads were. Fairy Tail gets a lot of (deserved) disdain but not much else.
I don't personally think that losing it to a merge would be a great loss in the long run, since the thread has definitely been toxic lately and it has an effect in more places than just here (i.e. people dogging on Naruto, Bleach, and Fairy Tail in any thread where other manga are discussed, just a general attitude that gets carried outside these walls)… but it's the number of people that don't really want a merge that makes me think it should get to stay as is, if only for a while longer.
That, and, the few folks that respectfully like the series and aren't Hinschers about it.
Yeah I'd say the three of you got it down. I'd say it's good then that the poll is leaning much more to the "No" side.
Still. I do think that FT is coming closer and closer to the Naruto and Bleach level of "No One Gives A Crap Anymore" and I think it's worth trying someday. But not today. I'd say at least wait until the second thread is done before we even begin the process of deciding whether to experiment.
If we ever do merge the three though, it shall be known as NaruBlegh Tails. And it will sell over 200 Million copies and be easily on par with OP and DB in terms of sales.
-
My thoughts are this:
In the Naruto and Bleach threads, people did nothing but make fun of them. No one respected them, except for a couple of lost souls, and everyone was united in their feelings. Naruto and Bleach both started out promising, but then became supreme disillusionment, frequently place higher than superior manga in Jump, and are more popular in the US than One Piece. They are the other 2/3 of the "big three", after all. makes sense to combine them, once it becomes clear that the same crowd of people want to say the same things about two manga.
But fairy tail… we just hate it. There's not many jokes, just hatred. It's caustic, bitter, and honestly almost depressing how negative this thread is. It isn't on the level of unjustly-earned popularity of Naruto or Bleach, and thus doesn't draw as large a crowd of haters. It is just as generic and brainless as you can get, with horrible writing. The only thing FT has going for it is the art.
If you merged this one with the Naruto/Bleach one, it would just kill the mood. It's fun to mock the other two, we make mini-memes about it and joke around all day. But here in Fairy Tail land? It's acid and tears and hate. keep 'em separate.
-
So true. Even I try to have a laid back time in this thread since I no longer care or read FT anymore, but most of the time… all anyone here cares about is thier dumb recycled rants with the same people(both sides.. because I don't really give a damn).
-
Word.
We haven't really addressed it, have we? Just how caustic and hateful this thread is?
What do people think of making an attempt to just… care less about Fairy Tail? To be a little more easy-going in here?
Can we get some of that?
'Cuz I think a little levity would do wonders for this place. A little more humor and silliness.
It gets hard sifting through all the bile with a shovel week after week and trying to argue that the thread needs to stay.
-
The hate in this thread is starting to become bothersome. I got an idea instead of having long ass rants about how much the series sucks how about start photoshopping images or for all u artists out there draw parodies to the series and it's Situations
Member of Negima is Super Awesome
MY YOUTUBE channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Mcwhirlpoolinc?feature=mhee
-
Naruto and Bleach are okay to make fun of, FT should be ignored.
-
^See? Like shrieking cult members that hate chance.
The hate in this thread is starting to become bothersome. I got an idea instead of having long ass rants about how much the series sucks how about start photoshopping images or for all u artists out there draw parodies to the series and it's Situations
Been there, done that. I share that stuff outside this thread now. No one here likes fun.
-
I do like fun. I like so much fun that I live with fun. Fun and me are buddies since I met him. Fun is so fun.
Now seriously, yeah, it's better to give time to everyone here to learn to not take serious FT. There's a lot of important things that we should hate, not FT.
-
-
B-B-B-But I love all the hate.
-
I think Naruto currently is and always has been a better manga than Fairy Tail.
-
just read the actual chapter
wait so they didn't even train over those 7 years
what the FUCK
also what kind of world is this where nothing significant happens over the course of seven years? no government changes? no widespread dragon attacks? no new, oppressive guilds? nothing? what the fuck
-
So after reading the previous pages week after week I finally feel the need so add something to this discussion. I don't post often and when I do its usually ignored and past over which is fine. I prefer to mostly read the various comments and participate in a non-frequent method so I don't expect my opinion to really matter much in the long run but after reading the last ten pages or so I feel a need to at least post something to this extent that applies not only to this thread but to the forum in general.
Let me begin by stating that I agree with the majority of folks that Fairy Tail, Naruto, and Bleach started out with promise but has since really gone down in quality. I've read Rave so I know what Mashima has written in the past and while not the best manga I've read it was an enjoyable enough read. Consider Mashima's manga's as junk food. Obviously its not very nutritious, sometimes not filling and often just bad for you but its something that you indulge in quickly. It doesn't have much substance yet its just a quick shall we say "meal on the go". A manga like One Piece (in my opinion) can be likened to a fine meal at a fancy restaurant. Its frequently way more nourishing and enjoyable. I usually will read the week's Fairy Tail when I have a few moments and merely flip through the pages. Yes its the same friendship speech arc after arc. Yes the checklist is constantly marked off. Yes each arc starts with some form of promise and quickly fades into mediocrity. Yet even for this I still read it because its just something to read, I enjoy the character designs (not in substance merely in appearance and I do enjoy the art frequently. ) I enjoy a bit of the character interactions and often the settings at least remotely interest me.
Does this mean I have bad taste? If you say so that's your opinion. You are entitled to it. I will not get into a flaming war with individuals who are merely attempting to troll or hate. However, this leads me to the main point of this forum post. There are many people who post on this forum. They come from a variety of backgrounds and interest and everyone has their own taste for manga. Some many enjoy the cliche antics depicted in Fairy Tail. However, they are often silent. Why? Because so frequently should someone voice an opinion that is not the overwhelming majority (which is negative) they are shut down, ostracized and in the end they stop posting. Is this what a forum is for? I don't expect everyone to enjoy every series that is discussed. After this week's Fairy Tail even I can't justify what an awful waste of a time skip this series has had. Yet out there they may be someone who might have enjoyed it (hypothetically). Do they dare say so? No because as in real life people who have dissenting opinions stay quiet. I bet upon viewing other manga forums there may be a constructive conversation and people may have enjoyed it. Who knows and yes its irrelevant if people do like it for the purposes of this forum but at least conversation of a remotely decent and civil kind is taking place.
Bleach and Naruto are the other two that have been universally hated on this forum. So be it, I cannot justify them being considered really that good but others might. They are just as entitled to their opinions as anyone else is. Have they gone downhill to horrid levels. In my fair opinion oh yes very much so but others may enjoy them.
The overall tl;dr version of this post is this: People who may like these mangas may actually want to talk to them. If this forum doesn't allow the conversation in a positive nature to exist on these mangas then so be it. This is a One Piece fan forum and if thats what the fanbase chooses to favor thats fine. However, if there is a section called Other Manga/Anime then fans should be able to discuss it without being told they have no taste, their opinions don't matter, ban these n00bs , etc.
Here is what I suggest: Keep the Naruto/Bleach thread as is a complaining thread add Fairy Tail to this list as well but keep this thread solely for complaining trashing whatever the forum base wants to do. Open up another unified thread of these three but keep this flame free. If this doesn't work within a two month period go back to what has been said before. The mods do an excellent job on this forum making sure to keep things fair and balanced. An extra thread will allow some freedom of opinion to be stated and you know what if it doesn't work out a simple delete button is all that has to be pressed.
Lastly, if this post is considered incendiary or rude I apologize. I am merely trying to speak on something that has long bothered me. The fan base of other series on this forum has defended things in other manga that honestly in my opinion are really far reaching and just defending for that sake. I will not list names or incidents but merely to point out that one's taste is in their own eye of the beholder. I have enjoyed these forums for many years now and make frequent visits to read the opinions of others but even my own enjoyment of various series have caused me to hesitate posting in each thread simply because I do not wish to either join in on the mob mentality or to be ostracized simply because I enjoy something that the majority does not.
If you have read to the end of this forum post I appreciate your time and consideration. If you merely read a few sentences and moved on and proceed to troll or hate on me you merely are proving my point. Thank you again for taking the time to read a long post like this and I hope to post more frequently and to enjoy the company here on AP forums.
-
I agree with the stuff the above poster said. Other than One Piece the only series that I discuss on this forum are Hunter x Hunter and Bakuman really. However, I do think that some actual discussion of FT, Bleach, and Naruto should be permitted and people shouldn't be ridiculed or mocked for actually liking those series. I've already stated that I do think Naruto is a good series or at the very least middle of the road. There are many manga out there that are way worse so I hardly consider it horrible. In any case, just mixing the three series into one hate topic doesn't seem right to me. There should be actual discussion threads for those manga.
-
I think Gerard was executed. Discuss.
-
I think Gerard was executed. Discuss.
Does that mean that Erza is going to be approched by Whoopi Goldberg, telling her that Jello's ghost is keeping her up at night with his shitty 80's love ballads?
-
there's more real discussion potential in Goodnight Moon than there is in Fairy Tail
-
-
there's more real discussion potential in Goodnight Moon than there is in Fairy Tail
See this is exactly what I'm referring to. Hiroy was at least attempting to start some form of conversation and immediately we get a reply like this. There should be a spot for people to discuss this manga and the others without posts like this. You like Hunter x Hunter right? Wouldn't it be nice if that thread never again mentioned Togashi's rampant Hiatuses or poor artwork in some chapters? Instead wouldn't it be better if it was purely a discussion of that manga?
-
You bring up an interesting point. Gerard used his tightly knit bond to speak to Erza's heart before her supposed inevitable defeat to Azuma duing the S-Class arc(which was great by the way). What makes us think that he could not speak to Erza in death? Mevis too is a ghost that was created through Fairy Tail's love and affection right? In fact, I think Gerard appearing as a ghost would be awesome. Especially in Fairy Tail's setting. It has Dragons. Now imagine this!!
A Ghost Dragon!
And the way Natsu would be able to defeat it is using a combination of Dragon Slayer magic and Ghost Buster magic(which was given to him after he eats Gerard's ghost).
-
See this is exactly what I'm referring to. Hiroy was at least attempting to start some form of conversation and immediately we get a reply like this. There should be a spot for people to discuss this manga and the others without posts like this. You like Hunter x Hunter right? Wouldn't it be nice if that thread never again mentioned Togashi's rampant Hiatuses or poor artwork in some chapters? Instead wouldn't it be better if it was purely a discussion of that manga?
not really.. Hiroy now most of the time just complaining about people complaining about Fairy Tail.. and sometimes he too just talk about negative thing about Fairy Tail rather than try to talk about "good" thing about Fairy Tail.. some of the people that say they are still "enjoy" Fairy Tail or whatever too aren't discuss or at least try to focus on something "positive" or something they like about the chapter or Fairy Tail itself here this days.. the only positive thing about Fairy Tail discussion around here is when they talk about anime. but that too are gone now.. they didn't even try but now they complain about people complaining about Fairy Tail and act like a victim around here.
-
If this arc is revealed to be a Future arc does that mean there will be three Gerards now?
-
You are interrupting my conversation about Fairy Tail.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
If this arc is revealed to be a Future arc does that mean there will be three Gerards now?
Use even numbers. We have Edoras and Magic Mirrors.
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Speaking of Edoras, maybe a second visit there would make you guys less dissapointed. They weren't in the Fairy Sphere you know? You know what that means?
Epic Foreshadowing. We get a chance to see how they look like 7 years older
-
Ok fair enough Hiroy well played. I know that Fairy Tail isn't deep and sadly I could actually see your theory coming true. Yet still I think its not too much to ask for a place to discuss things without trolling or the hating. If I'm the minority here then so be it. I myself do have issues finding things I like in the series but at least its something to read that occasionally entertains me. I will not lie, when the chapter occurred with the dragon obliterating the island and the 7 years time skip point came up I too thought here's a chance for him to really expand and take the story in another direction. I didn't set my expectations too high because of what has been done in the manga lately but then again it was still something that at least caught my interest no matter how minorly. Still, some of the fights in the series have at least been remotely interesting and characters like Erza or Grey at least have powers that in perhaps the hands of another writer might be downright interesting.
Can I say I am a fan of the series? I read it weekly so yea I guess I can. Do I think its a good quality manga I would recommend to someone not necessarily unless you just want some "junk food". Lets be honest most manga's coming out with the exceptions of One Piece, Hunter x Hunter, Toriko, That Kyojin manga (I forget the full name), Berserk, Vinland Saga and perhaps a few more I read are really pretty bad. It takes alot of careful planning to be a skilled writer. Yet still apparently from what I've read here Fairy Tail gets decent enough sales and for those people who do buy it perhaps there are some lurking on this forum here. They deserve just as much as a voice as anyone else does without fear of being shut down or trolled.
I'm not trying to play the victim here. Merely trying to state an opinion without resorting to trolling, flaming or any other type of insulting behavior. If you wish to view me as playing one that's your choice.
