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    • iMustang
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      I enjoyed this chapter. Mirajane's fights always hold your interest, and I laughed at the 24 reference (he just said like a week or two ago he's been watching a lot of 24 lately, but I still didn't see it coming. Watch the anime actually have the countdown sound effect lol). I'm loving the pissed off Zeref at the end, let's see if he can do fighting techniques instead of just auto-death magic.

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        Let's see if the black mage goes white and help defeat Grimoire Heart!

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          Natsu falls down from exhaustion and fatigue? Unbelievable. Now be a good boy and stay down until this arc is over.

          On the sister matter - sure, why not use the good old lethal but not really sacrifice to - well, develop is to strong of a word for Mashima, so let's say show Lisanna.

          And why does Zeref make Ultear so wet.

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            Chapter was ok…

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              Im really starting to get confused as to whats gonna happen now, it looked like FT was gonna somehow pull through but now not so much any more.

              Also, how the hell does Mira hugging Lisiana prevent a bomb from killing her when it was around her waist?!?!?

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                ^ exactly, that was a complete failure, the bomb should´ve killed both of them

                and that would´ve been perfect, i can´t stand Lissana nor Mira e.e

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                  http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/58243627/19

                  If she is refering to Natsu, I'm killing someone. If she is referring to noone in particular, then I'll let it slip.
                  Anyway, this was lame as fuck. How fucking rushed can Mashima get? In 10 panels, "put a timed bomb on Lisanna, Mira turns demon, they fight, Mira forfeits, does the worse sacrifice I've seen in quite some time, and that's it".

                  http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/58243627/22

                  Look! Bad guy who's name I've already forgotten is doing an Ichigo impresion!
                  And he is doing it right!

                  Sorry, but so far, it looks like Mashima is going the "ball droping" route. Again. Let's see how it unravels, but these last two chapters have been underwhelming to say the least.

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                    If you look at the explosion it doesn't look like its a conventional fire explosion. It looks like its literally blowing things away. Plus looking at Mira's back it looks like thats where she took the brunt of the attack for whatever reason.

                    Still pissed Mirajane might be dead, what a pointless death. I mean its a no win situation either way but Lisanna was never dead in the first place.

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                      Im really starting to get confused as to whats gonna happen now, it looked like FT was gonna somehow pull through but now not so much any more.

                      Also, how the hell does Mira hugging Lisiana prevent a bomb from killing her when it was around her waist?!?!?

                      The stupidity of it is that Mashima could have covered that major plot hole by simply making it so the bomb transfers to whoever touches it or having Mirijane use some sort of damage transfer spell. But nope, just a big plot hole.

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                        The stupidity of it is that Mashima could have covered that major plot hole by simply making it so the bomb transfers to whoever touches it or having Mirijane use some sort of damage transfer spell. But nope, just a big plot hole.

                        A plot hole would be the fact that Azuma didn't kill Lisanna as well. A bomb that we don't know anything about going off isn't a plot hole.

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                          A plot hole would be the fact that Azuma didn't kill Lisanna as well. A bomb that we don't know anything about going off isn't a plot hole.

                          It's a bomb. That's all we as readers were told. Anyone who hangs around near a bomb goes boom. Azuma not killing Lizanna is just his established character of hating to deal with weak things. Do you even have any clue how story-telling works? Also, as well? Lol, Mashima doesn't even have the balls to kill old people or keep flashback characters dead.

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                            It wasn't explained how Grey survived the same scenario with Racer when Racer was blown to bits until the Anime, so…

                            The best I can figure is that Mira used some kind of absorption magic to absorb the blast so that it wouldn't kill Lisanna.

                            That aside, this was still a good Chapter. Natsu just got lucky with Zancrow, and with Mirajane defeated that easily, it's obvious that Grimoire Heart is going to defeat Fairy Tail... unless, of course, Zeref curbstomps all of them except Hades.

                            My prediction is that Zeref will go on a rampage and defeat all of Grimoire Heart except Hades, who will capture him and leave. Fairy Tail, defeated, will retreat back to the guild and plan their next move.

                            I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                              Exploding branches that can only do minor skin damage. Hmmm…ah Mashima thought of it...that explains it all.

                              In fairness to the chapter, the sprouting flora powers is neat and I love that demon lady's expressions.

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                                okay .. my theory is .. wait for the next chap and see what happens =p

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                                  There has to be an explanation for the bomb thing.
                                  Even Mashima wouldn't put such an obvious inconsistency in, would he?
                                  Would he?

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                                    I have to admit… The bomb thing was really stupid. And that fight was way too rushed.

                                    I have hopes it'll pick up still, but well see.

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                                      There has to be an explanation for the bomb thing.
                                      Even Mashima wouldn't put such an obvious inconsistency in, would he?
                                      Would he?

                                      HE WOULD .

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                                        Honestly, I understand the fact that it's just cartoons, but perhaps that fight shouldn't end too fast =/ Personally I'm getting annoyed with Mashima's battle scene structures, I don't know about you guys but it's seriously pointless to see battle scene ended with not much sense (atleast to me).

                                        I definetly agree with some of you guys here about the bomb part, in that chap it truly looked stupid and I hope Mashima will explain about that part clearly later on ..If not, I'm starting to lose my interest on continuing reading Fairy Tail lol.

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                                          It's obvious that Mira will be sucked by an anima and everyone will think she's dead because of the bomb, oh wait… :ninja:

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                                            FUCK yes
                                            Mashima made up for last chapter a bit. grimoire heart's still gonna win, son!

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                                              Look at the explosion
                                              Does that look like fire?
                                              Is it burning anything up?
                                              No?
                                              Okay so I guess I'll just wait til we get an explanation of Azuma's powers

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                                                Look at the explosion
                                                Does that look like fire?
                                                Is it burning anything up?
                                                No?
                                                Okay so I guess I'll just wait til we get an explanation of Azuma's powers

                                                The problem is Mirijane didn't know how his powers worked assuming that they aren't just simple bombs (which there's no reason to assume so). It'd be one thing if she wanted to die with her sister but she was trying to save her. So basically her attempt to sacrifice herself involved hugging herself against a bomb that would kill them both and it somehow worked.

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                                                  yeah, when the bomb was either the counter, or more likely the ENTIRE THING that was trapper her, hugging the front won't do much. Except this is fairy tail, and yeah.

                                                  and natsu, I'm pretty sure this is exactly one of those times when you run away.

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                                                    What sucks is that Natsu's probably going to be proven right, since if they don't fight, the bad guys get Zeref (though they don't know that right now), and nothing goo'd going to come of that.

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                                                      FUCK yes
                                                      Mashima made up for last chapter a bit. grimoire heart's still gonna win, son!

                                                      Hell yeah

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                                                      What sucks is that Natsu's probably going to be proven right, since if they don't fight, the bad guys get Zeref (though they don't know that right now), and nothing goo'd going to come of that.

                                                      have you read the blue guardian arc from rave? this arc is playing out just like that

                                                      My opinion on the chapter: This chapter was good for me, I liked the fact that natsu collapsed after his fight with Zancrow and Zancrow isn't showing the white of his eye's meaning that he is still conscious…what really bothered me is how it looked like Zancrow was blown away to another part of the island yet we see him only a couple of feet from Natsu. The fight between Mirajane and Azuma was pretty good a lil rush.Her protecting Lissana was a little rushed. If the anime get's to this arc watch the counter transfers itself onto mirajane than explodes but still makes no sense since lisanna should of felt some sort of impact from it. also mirajane should of been blown away. An unlikeally ally in zeref? interesting. Well let's see how hughes...I mean Zeref will deal with Ul tear.

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                                                        Lisanna: 'My magic is enough to take care of someone like you' - Ehh, no. Fight was okay I thought.
                                                        Still don't know who the eventual winners of this arc will be, Fairy Tail is starting to run out of troops here,it is a bit interesting in that way.

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                                                          Luxus saves the day in 10-15 chapters tops, I don't think this arc will go past 50 chapters.

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                                                            I thought this guy's powers was confusing at first until I noticed the the timer. Maybe his ability is explosive landmines rather than just exploding branches. Some mines being instantaneous, some proxy, and some timed. With the control over roots and branches, he probably uses it combination for chain reactions and what be it.

                                                            I kinda doubt he'll explain it himself, but it's a hell of alot more impressive than Zancrow's boring magics. Speaking of Zancrow… He looks like he's is disbeif over the fact that his flames isn't "Godly". He may turn agianst Hades and get skewered or punished for doing so later.

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                                                              Wow that was bs. No explanation on how the bomb "killed" one of them. How is hugging the outside of it protecting the person trapped in it?

                                                              Anyway Natsu lil speech was cool as well as things pointing to Zeref making his moves to destroy GH.

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                                                                Zancrow is okay enough to make faces. He's fine.

                                                                "Yeah, your super power-up that completely exhausted you? I, uh, kindasorta didn't really feel that."

                                                                Then he'd just start playing kick-the-Natsu. It's kinda like kick the can, only dumber.

                                                                I'm pretty sure I hate Lisanna. Has she done anything at all since being "revived"? I mean, at all? So far it would seem she exists only to drag other people down. Juvia might've been able to beat Erza if her partner's abilities extended beyond "turn into a fish."

                                                                After Oracion Seis and Edoras, I was so proud of this arc, up until the past couple of chapters.

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                                                                What is this creature and why do I want to bludgeon it to death with a shoehorn.

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                                                                  Natsu…..probably won't stay down guys.

                                                                  I think he might just get a good rest to be in shape to defeat Hades and stil have time to utter his big "nakama" speach while doing it.

                                                                  This is Hiro we're talking about guys, I don't wanna be the negative one here, but let's just make sure not to get too excited.

                                                                  I know how that ended up when the Edoras arc kicked into....."high gear" :getlost:

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                                                                    Natsu…..probably won't stay down guys.

                                                                    Oh, I'm all too aware of that. I'd like for him to, but I don't expect him to at all. I don't think anyone here really does.

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                                                                      I highly doubt that Mira's going to die, especially if Makarov survives getting a laser through the chest.

                                                                      Other than that it was weak chapter, although I do love how it ended with the heavy implications the Urtear is gonna get her ass kicked next chapter.

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                                                                        I just want to make sure nobody here gets their hopes up.

                                                                        I did once…...a long time ago. When I was reading up about a pair of heroes getting whisked away into a bizzaro world , under the threat of being killed by an evil global empire headed by a crazy but threatening psychopath.

                                                                        and then.....

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                                                                          @No:

                                                                          I just want to make sure nobody here gets their hopes up.

                                                                          I did once…...a long time ago. When I was reading up about a pair of heroes getting whisked away into a bizzaro world , under the threat of being killed by an evil global empire headed by a crazy but threatening psychopath.

                                                                          and then.....

                                                                          !

                                                                          /manly tears

                                                                          I so feel your pain.

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                                                                            I don't get it, what does CAT mean?

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                                                                              The chapter where the cat queen starts talking comes to mind… Worst chapter ever.

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                                                                                I don't get it, what does CAT mean?

                                                                                A reference to the horrible walking beastialities known as the Exceed and the joke from the NC review of End of Days.

                                                                                Ya know, where Swarzenegger fights the devil ? 😉

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                                                                                  Still don't see why it can't be some kind of absorption magic. Mirajane is an S class wizard and has shown a variety of abilities…

                                                                                  It's also possible she could have shielded Lisanna from the blast using some kind of shield magic but didn't have the strength to shield herself... But I'm going to go with Absorption magic.

                                                                                  I'll give Mashima the benefit of the doubt, here.

                                                                                  I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                                    I doubt it would go to his benefit.

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                                                                                      If she could've done that all along then she certainly could've done that to help deal with his explosions while he was fighting her.

                                                                                      Benefit of the doubt denied.

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                                                                                      There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                                        If she could've done that all along then she certainly could've done that to help deal with his explosions while he was fighting her.

                                                                                        Benefit of the doubt denied.

                                                                                        I meant damage absorption in terms of redirection, not something like Natsu did where he absorbed (ate) Zancrow's fireball, added his own, and spat it back out (Like Nel from Bleach, which is the first thing I thought of when it came to this). She was already taking damage from attacks directed toward her, why would she absorb them and just make it worse?

                                                                                        I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                                          I meant damage absorption in terms of redirection, not something like Natsu did where he absorbed (ate) Zancrow's fireball, added his own, and spat it back out (Like Nel from Bleach, which is the first thing I thought of when it came to this). She was already taking damage from attacks directed toward her, why would she absorb them and just make it worse?

                                                                                          Natsu eats fire. That's what he does. He's a dragon slayer.

                                                                                          Gajeel eats metal. Dragon slayer.

                                                                                          If Mirajane has some damage redirecting ability, it certainly would have served her well in any of the arcs before now. FT's characters aren't exactly known for SUPRISE additional magic skills unrelated to anything they've ever shown off prior.

                                                                                          Why we're inventing new ones based off a panel or two of what definitely LOOKED non-magical is perplexing to me.

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                                                                                          There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                                            I meant damage absorption in terms of redirection, not something like Natsu did where he absorbed (ate) Zancrow's fireball, added his own, and spat it back out (Like Nel from Bleach, which is the first thing I thought of when it came to this). She was already taking damage from attacks directed toward her, why would she absorb them and just make it worse?

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                                                                                            The stupidity of it is that Mashima could have covered that major plot hole by simply making it so the bomb transfers to whoever touches it or having Mirijane use some sort of damage transfer spell. But nope, just a big plot hole.

                                                                                            Yeah, I covered that. The problem is that we got absolutely NO indication that Mirijane did such a thing or was even capable of doing so. Which was especially dumb since it would have taken all of two panels to efficiently establish some super secret magic that did just that. Instead of the gaping senseless plot hole that we got.

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                                                                                              If Mirajane has some damage redirecting ability, it certainly would have served her well in any of the arcs before now. FT's characters aren't exactly known for SUPRISE additional magic skills unrelated to anything they've ever shown off prior.

                                                                                              Well, prior to this arc, she hasn't really done much. Until the Fighting Festival Arc, the majority of her S Class abilites were still dormant due to Lisanna's loss; when Fried awakened them at the time by nearly killing Elfman, Fried was easily overwhelmed due to the difference in power. We don't know what she was doing during the Oracion Seis Arc, and she was with Elfman visiting Lisanna's grave during the Edolas Arc.

                                                                                              So, that said, this is the first arc we've seen her fight opponents that are on her level with her full potential unlocked. Prior to this, we've seen her do several types of magic, including transformation and sleep magic.

                                                                                              It's no secret that the S-class mages of Fairy Tail are ridiculous. Erza aside, we've seen Mystogan single-handedly solo all of Phantom Lord's divisions (keep in mind that Mystogan couldn't use magic and solely relied on his magic staves), we've seen Gildarts make an entire island shake from his full power, we've seen Makarov do Fairy Law, Titan Magic, and incredible spells against Hades, and we've seen Mirajane use her Satan Soul powers to beat the hell out of Fried, an S-Class level mage.

                                                                                              … Maybe you're right, maybe I am giving him too much credit, I don't know. But I'd like to think with all the powerful mages we've seen so far, there are more than just Makarov that have mastered multiple types of magic.

                                                                                              I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                                                Your theory has no basis.

                                                                                                It hasn't been seen before, there's no indication she did it, no visual or contextual cues that magic of any kind occured. We've seen Zankuro's trees explode starting with the roots, so one presumes that by hugging her sister, she took a great deal of the damage.

                                                                                                Your theory has no basis.

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                                                                                                There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                                                  Well, you can assume that he only used the roots to hold her place, while the timer itself being the actual explosive. By latching herself on the bomb, Mira takes the most damage.

                                                                                                  It's still a flawed assumption however. I mean, how could Mira have any idea how to counteract a bomb like that? It's sorta like the device Hiro normally uses. You know? Enemy fires a huge attack, big explosion, next panel reveals someone(valiant showoff self sacrifice) standing there is his arms open showing that he took all the damage though that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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                                                                                                    Most of you are incorrectly assuming the bomb he used is a normal bomb when for all intents and purposes the explosion we saw wasn't fire but some sort of force that was literally pushing things away.

                                                                                                    Since we know nothing about his magic other than what it looks like making rational assumptions based on whats on panel is all we can do. Since the explosion in question doesn't look like a normal explosion and doesn't act like one theres no real point in trying to assume real life scenarios would apply to this case.

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                                                                                                      @Chinascare:

                                                                                                      Most of you are incorrectly assuming the bomb he used is a normal bomb when for all intents and purposes the explosion we saw wasn't fire but some sort of force that was literally pushing things away.

                                                                                                      Since we know nothing about his magic other than what it looks like making rational assumptions based on whats on panel is all we can do. Since the explosion in question doesn't look like a normal explosion and doesn't act like one theres no real point in trying to assume real life scenarios would apply to this case.

                                                                                                      Again there have been no indications, hints or foreshadowing of any kind. Not to mention there would be no reason for him to have such a convoluted power, a dark mage whose job description is to kill as much as he can. And to top it all off, Mirijane didn't know if his bombs were special so she basically tried to save her sister by hugging a bomb that should have killed them both and it somehow worked.

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                                                                                                        @Chinascare:

                                                                                                        Most of you are incorrectly assuming the bomb he used is a normal bomb when for all intents and purposes the explosion we saw wasn't fire but some sort of force that was literally pushing things away.

                                                                                                        Since we know nothing about his magic other than what it looks like making rational assumptions based on whats on panel is all we can do. Since the explosion in question doesn't look like a normal explosion and doesn't act like one theres no real point in trying to assume real life scenarios would apply to this case.

                                                                                                        Incorrectly assuming? Does that mean that your assumption is the right one? now that is bullshit.

                                                                                                        You can see from the panels that it is indeed an explosion, a force powerful enough to separate branches and scatter debris everywhere. There is no such thing as non normal explosion in those panels, explosions work the same way. Now here is the shitty part that you are trying to ignore, Mira threw herself into that force in hopes of saving Lisanna, now in what way would positioning yourself in between an exploding branch and its victim save the latter. That does not make sense.

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