Why does everyone blast Pell but no one blasts the even more stupid case of that kid who saw Baroque Works in action getting killed, but, wait, nope, he's actually fine for no reason? Alabasta!Oda, come now, you really couldn't bear to let the kid barely anybody would remember after the arc was over stay offscreen at least? I get that you value life but that comes with having to accept death as well. I guess Oda's gotten better since Ace and Whitebeard and all the offscreen deaths in the war, but I was sort of disappointed more of the major players didn't at the very least sustain lasting damage.
Most Disappointing Thing in One Piece
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Because the kid didn't have a bomb that was supposed to have the power to destroy a couple of square miles city blown up on him.
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Why does everyone blast Pell but no one blasts the even more stupid case of that kid who saw Baroque Works in action getting killed, but, wait, nope, he's actually fine for no reason? Alabasta!Oda, come now, you really couldn't bear to let the kid barely anybody would remember after the arc was over stay offscreen at least?
At first I tried to justify it in my head by saying that we needed a non-biased person to prove that King Cobra and company were innocent. Even if Vivi or Igaram revealed what was going on, there's a chance people would just think Vivi is making this up in order to save her father's reputation by blaming Crocodile.
But that ended up not mattering at all since Kohza found out about Crocodile's plan at the end. I mean, killing a kid would be pretty bad for Oda, but given Mr. 1 and Miss Doublefinger were pretty much killers and he could've ruined the whole operation I'd call it a drop the ball moment. He would just be included with all the others that were saved by the end of the arc.
I get that you value life but that comes with having to accept death as well. I guess Oda's gotten better since Ace and Whitebeard and all the offscreen deaths in the war, but I was sort of disappointed more of the major players didn't at the very least sustain lasting damage.
It doesn't matter if mooks die or not. Ace and Whitebeard were life changing moments and needed to die. And them dying doesn't really change the fact that some people just stupidly lived for no good reason.
For example, if Oars III died, then I'd give Oda the benefit of the doubt during the war. (Jozu lost his arm which is pretty bad too).
Another cheated death that always bothered me was Iceberg and Paulie. Sure they both played roles in the future for living, but I would think trained assassins (or at least Lucci) would make sure to finish the job instead of letting them "burn" to death, especially since they escaped in the end.
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Why does everyone blast Pell but no one blasts the even more stupid case of that kid who saw Baroque Works in action getting killed, but, wait, nope, he's actually fine for no reason? Alabasta!Oda, come now, you really couldn't bear to let the kid barely anybody would remember after the arc was over stay offscreen at least? I get that you value life but that comes with having to accept death as well. I guess Oda's gotten better since Ace and Whitebeard and all the offscreen deaths in the war, but I was sort of disappointed more of the major players didn't at the very least sustain lasting damage.
Pell and that kid was definately a fuck up on oda's part. Luckily they were nobodies so it did not effect the plot or my feelings to One Piece and Oda's abilities.
I do wish to give Oda some slack though, in those days, Oda did not want to kill anyone at all cost; he was still learning how get the feel of one piece down right.
The thing I like about oda is that he learns from his mistakes and an obvious example is the gradual progression of One Piece. One Piece started off slow, but Oda kept revising his method and sought way to make his series better. it is for this reason that One Piece is where it currently at.
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I agree on Iceburg, if you think about it, there's no real important reason to have him stay alive.
And I thought Lucci enjoyed killing… :sad:
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Honestly there is nothing in one piece (the manga) that dissapoints me, but it does dissapoint me that Oda doesnt have as much time and freedom with the series that he should have.
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@Sonic:
I agree on Iceburg, if you think about it, there's no real important reason to have him stay alive.
And I thought Lucci enjoyed killing… :sad:
Now wait a minute…wasn't iceburg the one that told the strawhats about robin's true motives, which motivated them to go save her? Also he repaired Rocketman, which enabled the to head to EL plus he fixed Merry which was the reason why the SH's were able to escape. Iceburg had no purpose to stay alive? Foo' be trippin'.
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I just feel that the things Iceburg did could have equally be done by another shipwright or before he had died.
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she now has hips and no shirt, she's just sexy now. she can still be cute at 20 ;o
She had no shirt pre timeskip, too. Alabasta. Skypia. After Enies Lobby.
You don't think she will run around in her bikini top for the rest of One Piece, do you?And she IS still cute.
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Some of these might be arguable, but I chose them on purpose. Sexy doesn't exclude cute. And cute doesn't exclude sexy. Or maturity.
And till now there were not many opportunities to show Nami Lovey-dovey-cute. -
I really have to disagree on the Iceburg-should-have-died thing. Aside from the fact that he was very useful and important in the rest of the arc, the whole failed murder attempt was a plot point!
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nami hasn't had another shower scene in the new chapters yet.
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@RPG:
nami hasn't had another shower scene in the new chapters yet.
I imagine fishmen and merfolk don't own showers. Probably just jump into the sea and wash themselves there.
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It´s not disappointing, is only a thig that you don´t like.
How is it not dissapointing? I expected a cooler post-timeskip design, and I got a disfigured GI-JOE/S&M toy.
Also, can't your statement be applied to to everything mentioned in this thread?
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It'd be disapointing if Pell had a bigger role in the alabasta arc. Like a really really big role. His relationship with vivi was summed up in like 20 seconds in the anime, so it wasn't really a big deal for him not to die. It's not like him dying was insignificant, it's just that him NOT dying wasn't really all that significant. Plus he might come up later in the series he's a bird with a machinegun on his back he's awesome.
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@Sonic:
I just feel that the things Iceburg did could have equally be done by another shipwright or before he had died.
Nmaa…I disagree.
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@ArSoNiSt:
How is it not dissapointing? I expected a cooler post-timeskip design, and I got a disfigured GI-JOE/S&M toy.
Also, can't your statement be applied to to everything mentioned in this thread?
Sorry, but this isn't your manga. It's Oda's manga. He can do whatever the hell he wants. But he knows how to make it interesting, creative, and fresh.
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Sorry, but this isn't your manga. It's Oda's manga. He can do whatever the hell he wants. But he knows how to make it interesting, creative, and fresh.
Personally, I'm glad Oda had the balls to change Franky's design the way he did.I know it's Oda's manga (What is the point of mentioning that?). Also? Why the dick-riding? I said that I think that Franky's new form is ugly. His post time-skip form was waaay better IMO, I thought that Oda might improve on his design but the changes that he has made don't look good at all. I think that Franky's new form is fugly.
The only cool thing about Franky's new form are the nipple lights, which I find hilarious :lmao:
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Sorry, but this isn't your manga. It's Oda's manga. He can do whatever the hell he wants. But he knows how to make it interesting, creative, and fresh.
Personally, I'm glad Oda had the balls to change Franky's design the way he did.Yea u got a really good point there but…....... i think u kinda defeated the whole purpose of the thread.
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hmmm, well while we're talkin bout designs, i really dislike the way Brooke turned out and was kinda disappointed. i mean, dude's wearin freakin flamingo pom poms and a Burger King crown lol. his original design was much more unique and badass, and dont none of you lie and say you like his new form better lol. but jk, its not too big of a deal, ill prob get use to it
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I like his new form better. And I'm a huge Brook fan.
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I'm pretty sure I replied to Joe and minigun's posts before.
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Too be honest, I too wasn't that keen on Franky's new look. I thought, he had lost his supppaahhh personality and his ways of hentai. As soon as Oda showed that his personality hasn't changed much, I felt better. Franky new look is still an adjustment and I still kinda miss his old look, but I am sure Oda has done things for the best. For some reason I was hoping for luffy to get some facial hair considering luffy had facial hair in Oda's chapter 0 "one shot" of one piece.
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Too be honest, I too wasn't that keen on Franky's new look. I thought, he had lost his supppaahhh personality and his ways of hentai. As soon as Oda showed that his personality hasn't changed much, I felt better. Franky new look is still an adjustment and I still kinda miss his old look, but I am sure Oda has done things for the best. For some reason I was hoping for luffy to get some facial hair considering luffy had facial hair in Oda's chapter 0 "one shot" of one piece.
Don't refer to the One-shot Romance Dawn V.1 you're talking about as "Chapter 0". There is a chapter 0 that is a completely different thing.
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I wouldn't count out facial hair, or that bitchin' jacket he was sporting in the concept art.
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I wouldn't count out facial hair, or that bitchin' jacket he was sporting in the concept art.
I personally think that theirs going to be a second time skip, presumably after Luffy becomes King of the Pirates.Well yea it'd be called the end of the series.
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Thats not really what I meant.
I was thinking more along the lines of the it happening at the 3/4 mark of the story.So u think the series isn't going to end when he becomes pirate king (kind of off topic). On topic: Yea I guess he needs facial hair but then he'd look more adult which would be bad.
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hmmm, well while we're talkin bout designs, i really dislike the way Brooke turned out and was kinda disappointed. i mean, dude's wearin freakin flamingo pom poms and a Burger King crown lol. his original design was much more unique and badass, and dont none of you lie and say you like his new form better lol. but jk, its not too big of a deal, ill prob get use to it
While I do prefer Brooke's old look I still think the Jimi Hendrix inspired Brooke is pretty badass.
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I agree on Brook's new look.
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Yea I think it looks hillarious!
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i tried and tried . but I FOUND ABSOLUTLY NOTHING THAT DISPLEASE ME IN THIS MANGA…
I find that everything oda does has a purpose. even the part where the minor characters doesn t die.
because if there are a lot of minor characters who dies . that will make the death of key characters less heartbreaking.(like ace , merry , nami s and robin s mothers, whitebeard, choppers father.......). i cried in every death in ONE PIECE.
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I just want a chapter when we see Luffy in the bathroom shaving for the first time.
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i tried and tried . but I FOUND ABSOLUTLY NOTHING THAT DISPLEASE ME IN THIS MANGA…
I find that everything oda does has a purpose. even the part where the minor characters doesn t die.
because if there are a lot of minor characters who dies . that will make the death of key characters less heartbreaking.(like ace , merry , nami s and robin s mothers, whitebeard, choppers father…....). I cried in every death in ONE PIECE.
unlike other mangas where a lot of people dies.. This argument never made sense. Major characters that die make the reader sad because there is an emotional attachment to them. All minor characters living does is trivialize death. Them living shouldn't affect the sadness of others dying.
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@Sonic:
I just want a chapter when we see Luffy in the bathroom shaving for the first time.
Only in a fanfic.
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Facial hair doesn't make the man.
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Luffy is 18?
Thats hilarious considering he was knocking out grown men. WHo trained jus as hard as him for decades longer. -
@RPG:
there will never be a tournament arc.
Foxy arc. .
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Luffy is 18?
Thats hilarious considering he was knocking out grown men. WHo trained jus as hard as him for decades longer.No, he's 19.
16 chars
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Most dissapointing thing?
Wapol being so much fodder for Luffy. I was hoping a guy with his kind of DF powers would be more of a threat…
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@ArSoNiSt:
Most dissapointing thing?
Wapol being so much fodder for Luffy. I was hoping a guy with his kind of DF powers would be more of a threat…
Considering the fact that Wapol couldn't get into the armory, he wasn't much of a threat to luffy. Then again cannons don't effect Luffy, unless there were harpoons there or Wapol could shoot out swords and stuff like that.
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@ArSoNiSt:
Most dissapointing thing?
Wapol being so much fodder for Luffy. I was hoping a guy with his kind of DF powers would be more of a threat…
Well, you have to figure, how much combat experience could a lazyass like him have?
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@ArSoNiSt:
Most dissapointing thing?
Wapol being so much fodder for Luffy. I was hoping a guy with his kind of DF powers would be more of a threat…
Not surprising, without his DF he's like Saint Charloss. Just a waste of life with no combat experience and an overinflated sense of entitlement.
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@ArSoNiSt:
Most dissapointing thing?
Wapol being so much fodder for Luffy. I was hoping a guy with his kind of DF powers would be more of a threat…
On the contrary, I like this fight. I am glad all Luffy's fight aren't as close as the one against Lucci.
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pell living
and mr. 3 being at the execution platform with no foreshadowing to this at all
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It's like with sanji, all of a sudden he's gone and then he have done some cool things that helps the clan.
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On the contrary, I like this fight. I am glad all Luffy's fight aren't as close as the one against Lucci.
i know, right?? we gotta see luffy as powerful somehow
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Without reading the other 123 pages…
The new look for franky (its really just awful).... I have others but its time for me to head home from work, but seriously this is the worst for me! I loved what franky looked like before :(