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      Yeah, and there are a few parts that confuse me.

      For instance, in the first page, one translations implies that marines are needing to send reinforcements from one sea (South) to another (West), indicating they are undermanned. In another, the translator uses only West Blue. I'd like to clarify that.

      Second, the entire second page of the conversation of Hancock and Nyon differs a little. Onemanga's makes more sense (except for Nyon's thoughts at the end, which confuses Hancock for Luffy), but I'd like to see another version to determine which is more accurate.

      Well, of course take Aohige's word over mine, but looking at the raw they seem to be sending reinforcements from South Blue to West. The West Blue base (at least I think it's them, it's sort of hard to tell since it's all the same sort of speech bubbles) specifies that all their battleships are currently out.

      Hancock and Nyon's conversation is pretty much Nyon telling Hancock she can't meet Luffy one-on-one because it would look bad, and she's already making an exception by letting men dock on the island. Sonia and Mari tell Hancock to eat, Nyon says that Hancock can meet Luffy with the rest of the island when he's recovered. Nyon's final line is: "But… "Impel Down", "Marine HQ"...!!! A lone ant that jumped into the heart of an incredible storm...!!! For him to return with his life is the work of a god... Just what does Heaven... want for this man...!!!"

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        Manga stream didn't mentioned that WB and Shanks had the King haki.

        and in Naruto : One Manga Make BAd rythms for Killer bee, while Manga stream is the best.

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          and in Naruto : One Manga Make BAd rythms for Killer bee, while Manga stream is the best.

          bad rhymes is what killerbee needs…

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            this was a great chapter, the only thing that's unfortunate is that this flashback seems very predictable. the way i see it is that luffy and ace won't get along at first, then somethin will happen, one of them will be threatened by someone, they'll be saved, and then they'll hug and make out and be better brothers. but that's just my prediction don't take my word for it!!

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              Yeah, and there are a few parts that confuse me.

              For instance, in the first page, one translations implies that marines are needing to send reinforcements from one sea (South) to another (West), indicating they are undermanned. In another, the translator uses only West Blue. I'd like to clarify that.

              Marine: A pirate ship is spotted on the bay of Lastcamp in West Blue!
              Marine: All the marine battleships are currently out on missions!
              Marine: What are the cords for a marine base nearby!?
              Marine: There will be reinforcements coming from 80th branch base!
              Marine: This is a call from South Blue! We need to confirm the location of the scene…

              The last call may or may not be related to the previous one.
              It seems like the marine in the South Blue division is calling the place to confirm the location of the incident, so they can send reinforcements from there.

              Second, the entire second page of the conversation of Hancock and Nyon differs a little. Onemanga's makes more sense (except for Nyon's thoughts at the end, which confuses Hancock for Luffy), but I'd like to see another version to determine which is more accurate.

              Yes, it looks like molo got the entire second panel wrong.
              I mean, it's saying the opposite of what it means. :blink:

              Hancock: …and I will take them (dishes) to him. :wub:
              Nyon: So you DO plan to go afterall!! 😠

              Nyon is upset because she thought from the previous page that Hancock understood that it's against their rule.
              Yet Hancock is totally intending to go see Luffy afterall.

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                …they'll hug and make out...

                True, true, I can see it now (Assuming they both have their powers):

                They make out. Oops, fire. In the mouth.

                Anyways, the chapter was great. Luffy's facial expressions are getting even more and more outlandish, but it does truly exhibit his emotion, albeit overdone.

                I doubt it will be a predictable flashback. Their bond was so strong (hence the outlandish faces), that it hopefully will be something equally as unique.

                Don't be so humble, you're not that great.

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                  Marine: A pirate ship is spotted on the bay of Lastcamp in West Blue!
                  Marine: All the marine battleships are currently out on missions!
                  Marine: What are the cords for a marine base nearby!?
                  Marine: There will be reinforcements coming from 80th branch base!
                  Marine: This is a call from South Blue! We need to confirm the location of the scene…

                  The last call may or may not be related to the previous one.
                  It seems like the marine in the South Blue division is calling the place to confirm the location of the incident, so they can send reinforcements from there.

                  Yes, it looks like molo got the entire second panel wrong.
                  I mean, it's saying the opposite of what it means. :blink:

                  Hancock: ...and I will take them (dishes) to him. :wub:
                  Nyon: So you DO plan to go afterall!! 😠

                  Nyon is upset because she thought from the previous page that Hancock understood that it's against their rule.
                  Yet Hancock is totally intending to go see Luffy afterall.

                  Ah, thanks for that info, Ao!
                  Can't wait for Null's scans to get that right… lol.

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                    Thanks Aohige we were looking for clarification on those points,

                    Originally Posted by stephen

                    I also learned a long time ago not to pay attention to people who extrapolate complex theories because all it succeeds in doing is confusing themselves and being wrong. People will say crazy stuff and it's not really my problem if they're interpreting things wrong.

                    Wise words we should all live by

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                      Anyways, the chapter was great. Luffy's facial expressions are getting even more and more outlandish, but it does truly exhibit his emotion, albeit overdone.

                      knowing that oda also makes those faces to be able to draw them iam rly curious about what he`s thinking will doing such emotional faces ^^

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                        Whew, at last I can post. Thanks to everyone who helped make that happen. 😆 New to the board, and will post a hello a bit later, but have been chomping at the bit to say some things about this chapter and arc. Hope you all don't mind.

                        So. Interesting bits–Increadibly good way of handling Luffy's PTSD and realization that Ace is, indeed, gone. Very touching. I loved the flashes of memory in and out. Didn't think that was overdone at all.

                        I know this was last chapter, but I was struck that Coby mentioned the voices going out in his head--very reminiscent of Skypeia and the power some there had to "hear voices." Wonder where that'll take us.

                        And also from that last chapter, I think I'm in the camp that says Brown Beard (what a lazy-ass name) is just an example of what is happening in WB's territory, but then again I'm relatively new to paying this close attention to the story, so take that as you will.

                        As for Luffy "finally" having a sad backstory--the guy never even knew his dad, and we know nothing about his mom other than that he didn't have her around as young as 6 (Based on the fact that this chapter says he's 7 when he meets Ace---didn't Shanks stick around for a year in Luffy's village? She didn't appear to be there, and how could Garp just yank Luffy out of there if she were, anyway?) so he was raised by a succession of strangers. Plus Garp almost killed him several times trying to make him stronger. Its hardly a "happy" childhood, yk? I don't think he needed too much more to equal the others, but I see where losing someone can make him grow up a bit...

                        I doubt it's likely, given the comic potential of Hancock's unrequited love, but there is always the possibility that she could, at some point, get pissed that Luffy never returns her feelings, and we get some "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" stuff in there.

                        Law--interesting and very quiet so far. He could just be staring at Luffy's hat and thinking about all the revlations he's learned about its owner since he met him--i.e.--he's Dragon's son, he broke into and out of the world's biggest/most secure prison, taking a large number of prisoners with him in the process, has haki, has a former Shichibukai on his side and another current one in love with him, has a Yonkou interested in him, etc etc etc. Its a lot to take in at one time about someone you thought was just a regular style rival.I think I'd be left staring at a hat and thinking deeply as well...

                        But of course we have no idea what his true motives are. So here's some ideas I had about him. He has what the One Piece Wiki describes as tribal tattoos on his arms, and he is from North Blue.

                        Dragon has what the One Piece wikia describes as tribal tattoos on him as well, and from the cold, windy looking place that Iva-chan remembers him in, maybe is in North Blue. Anyone locate the place where Robin is on the bridge? Is that anywhere near North Blue? Not that Dragon would automatically be with the revolutionary army--or that there's only one batallian (or whatever group it is) of that army, but it was cold and windy there as well. (Of course there are tribes all over the place in OP world, just a thought is all...)

                        I see potential that Law has some sort of connection with Dragon... even if not a direct one. Maybe even secondary, like someone close to him rescued by the revolutionaries, who knows? What exactly was on the screen when the feed went out at SA, and Law told his crew to get ready, they were leaving right away? Was it clear at all what they'd just seen? Had they already revealed Luffy's Dragon connection? I can't recall and I need to go out so can't take the time to look at the moment, but I can look it up later unless someone cares enough to beat me to it.

                        I'm just speculating, of course, but thought I'd share...

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                          Marine: A pirate ship is spotted on the bay of Lastcamp in West Blue!
                          Marine: All the marine battleships are currently out on missions!
                          Marine: What are the cords for a marine base nearby!?
                          Marine: There will be reinforcements coming from 80th branch base!
                          Marine: This is a call from South Blue! We need to confirm the location of the scene…

                          The last call may or may not be related to the previous one.
                          It seems like the marine in the South Blue division is calling the place to confirm the location of the incident, so they can send reinforcements from there.

                          Yes, it looks like molo got the entire second panel wrong.
                          I mean, it's saying the opposite of what it means. :blink:

                          Hancock: ...and I will take them (dishes) to him. :wub:
                          Nyon: So you DO plan to go afterall!! 😠

                          Nyon is upset because she thought from the previous page that Hancock understood that it's against their rule.
                          Yet Hancock is totally intending to go see Luffy afterall.

                          Thanks, Aohige! If you ever need to translate something from Portuguese, you can count on me. 😄

                          Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                            I can simply not understand why Garp, hero of the marines, who wants the son of gol D roger and the son of dragon to be the greatest marines, leaves them in the hands of mountain bandits. I don't know but letting someone grow up with a bunch of scoundrels doesn't exactly aid in making them marines if you ask me. He could've just said he found them wondering around at sea or something and take them aboard his own ship and train them himself or just let them be trained by anyone other then people who's lifestyle it is to live against the law…

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                              ^^ maybe theyre old friends and he trusts them even when theyre criminals (seeing garp`s relation with gol.D Roger)

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                                I can simply not understand why Garp, hero of the marines, who wants the son of gol D roger and the son of dragon to be the greatest marines, leaves them in the hands of mountain bandits. I don't know but letting someone grow up with a bunch of scoundrels doesn't exactly aid in making them marines if you ask me. He could've just said he found them wondering around at sea or something and take them aboard his own ship and train them himself or just let them be trained by anyone other then people who's lifestyle it is to live against the law…

                                Well, 1 of the reasons.
                                http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1586594&postcount=345
                                And, the reason Shanks didn't take Luffy with him is the reason Garp didn't do as you suggest.
                                Garp must believe that Dadan is a good person to entrust his grandson.

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                                  have you read the last chapter?

                                  • The are mountain BANDITS
                                  • Garp has countless things against them which could make them end up in prison
                                  • Luffy already has the dream to become the pirate king so lets put oil on the fire and let him be raised by a strong mountain bandit, smart indeed, it does not even matter if Dadan is a good person or not, she IS a criminal

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                                    I think he just wanted them to grow up to be really strong, and thought he could convince them to join because he's full of himself.

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                                      @flandrian15:

                                      have you read the last chapter?

                                      • The are mountain BANDITS
                                      • Garp has countless things against them which could make them end up in prison
                                      • Luffy already has the dream to become the pirate king so lets put oil on the fire and let him be raised by a strong mountain bandit, smart indeed, it does not even matter if Dadan is a good person or not, she IS a criminal

                                      So what do you suggest Garp to do to make Luffy strong?
                                      Shanks didn't take Luffy aboard. So Garp didn't. The thing is, I don't think Dadan was still committing crimes at that time. Garp wouldn't let them, at least. So Dadan was just a tribe leader.
                                      Woop Slap mentioned Dadan when he talked about how crazy the family is. I think Dadan has good reputation now, for him. "Does Dadan know?", said the major, expecting Dadan's reaction would be like his, IMO.

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                                        he's just a lazy ass mofo, he could've taken him himself like he took coby and helmeppo. And don't say luffy was to small or not strong enough because if there is 1 man that is not strong (back when Garp took him) that would be Coby, I think Luffy is stronger then him even at age 6-7

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                                          he's just a lazy ass mofo, he could've taken him himself like he took coby and helmeppo. And don't say luffy was to small or not strong enough because if there is 1 man that is not strong (back when Garp took him) that would be Coby, I think Luffy is stronger then him even at age 6-7

                                          Coby was 17-18 at that time and he could join the Marines. Who would let you join the Military if you are under 18, unless you are only trained to be assassin like CP9. The training course for CP9 violate the human right, so it was in secret, probably. Let's assume that those who were trained secretly and inhumaly under WG's supervision, like CP9, can only work in the dark and do the dirty jobs like CP9, and that is not what Garp wanted Luffy to become. Furthermore, Ace can't be raised by justice officer, because he is Roger's son.

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                                            a military force that understands the bloodline he comes from and the unimaginable power he will get to posses and thus tries to train them for personal gain.
                                            a militairy force that does not give a fuck if it has to murder baby's in order to stop one of those bloodlines and thus is not afraid of using dirty tactics. Letting someone younger then 18 join them would not seems so bad after all they have done. It is insurance for later because Luffy would be a pest (this has been proven time and again) if he were not to become a marine. That is why it would have been much better if Garp had taken him with him on his ship. . .

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                                              a military force that understands the bloodline he comes from and the unimaginable power he will get to posses and thus tries to train them for personal gain.
                                              a militairy force that does not give a fuck if it has to murder baby's in order to stop one of those bloodlines and thus is not afraid of using dirty tactics. Letting someone younger then 18 join them would not seems so bad after all they have done. It is insurance for later because Luffy would be a pest (this has been proven time and again) if he were not to become a marine. That is why it would have been much better if Garp had taken him with him on his ship. . .

                                              What about Ace? Who would let Roger's son raised by Marines, which can only lead to his death. Garp told Ace that his father was Roger, though I don't know why, maybe Ace asked. Maybe the absent-minded Garp thought that it's Ace's right to know who his dad was. Or maybe, Garp respected Rouge's last wish, and named him Gol D Ace, so Ace knew his father was Gol D Roger.
                                              Who knows what a Marines officer can get from the mouth of a child?
                                              And, Garp wanted Luffy to be raised along with Ace, to build a brotherhood.

                                              Luffy was Dragon's son anyway, the most wanted criminal's child. The fact that Luffy is Dragon's son was only known to the highest rank. If by some chances the 10 years old Luffy knew it, the whole Marines would know. It is a truth that can only be revealed when Luffy is already a powerful and infamous criminal like right now.

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                                                In the flashback we will maybe learn about Luffy's habit to wear sandales. 🙂

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                                                  You guys cant be really discussing why Garp didn´t take them! Akainu destroyed a ship filled with inocent ppl just to kill robin who was 8 years old, they killed a lot of pregnant women and babies just to make sure ace would die, luffy wouldnt be different , if they knew he was Dragon´s son he would be dead right away!

                                                  Maybe it wasnt a good idea to leave them with bandits, but Garp couldnt bring them to a marine ship NEVER! He actually left luffy in the village and luffy met shanks and wanted to be a pirate, so he thought maybe leaving him with Dadan in the mountain where no one knew about them would be a good idea. Well they didnt want to be marines, but they sure got strong.

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                                                    Oh come on ANOTHER break? I know Oda needs time and all to work with his manga but what about us, desperate to see if Bepo finds a handsome female bear in the woods of Amazon Lily? Damn.

                                                    I'd hope a handsome female isn't what Bepo wants :ninja:

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                                                    I can simply not understand why Garp, hero of the marines, who wants the son of gol D roger and the son of dragon to be the greatest marines, leaves them in the hands of mountain bandits. I don't know but letting someone grow up with a bunch of scoundrels doesn't exactly aid in making them marines if you ask me. He could've just said he found them wondering around at sea or something and take them aboard his own ship and train them himself or just let them be trained by anyone other then people who's lifestyle it is to live against the law…

                                                    Whenever you attempt to rationalize something that Garp does, always think, what would Luffy do! 😆

                                                    On a more serious note, I'm sure Garp is a good judge of character, and Dadan and her group being mountain tribe has little to do with them raising a child with good moral values. Luffy's pirate influence came from Shanks, and it's quite likely that when Garp took Luffy to live with Dadan was after the year Luffy spent with Shanks in Fuschia Village.

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                                                      Luffy's pirate influence came from Shanks, and it's quite likely that when Garp took Luffy to live with Dadan was after the year Luffy spent with Shanks in Fuschia Village.

                                                      Its not just likely, its a sure thing. He was already rubber and being admonished for eating the DF by Garp as he was being dragged in and dumped with Dadan.

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                                                        Maybe Garp did raise Dragon in a good environment, but in the end he turned out being nothing less then the worst enemy of the World Government and the Marines. So, he tried to raise Ace and Luffy differently, so that they would become marines when they grow up. (And maybe he himself had a couple of bad parents, and he thought that by growing up in the same kind of environment, they could be like him when they become adults??)

                                                        Other than that he only could be trying deliberately to make them become criminals, and always pretended that he wished that they would become marines.

                                                        If I write something wrong, excuse my english….

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                                                          Just try to understand what Oda was thinking, not Garp.

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                                                            I think that maybe Garp raised Dragon like, loving. He cared from him, maybe they had a good relationship. Dragon wanted to be a Marine to help save people like his dad, Garp wanted his son to surpass him and become a great Marine. Dragon, Saw the cruel and corrupt side of the Marines, and despite his father being a "good Marine" Wouldn't stand up to it.

                                                            Now when Garp gets to raise Luffy, he decides to put him through hell to train him, but his Marine duty's keep him from staying at the island, so he has Whoop Slap and Makino keep an eye on Luffy when he's gone. Shanks arrives, Luffy gets the hat, dream, and fruit and Shanks leaves. Garp comes back to find this, and thinks he needs to do what he did with Ace, show him the dark side of the world.

                                                            He has Luffy and Ace grow up in a bad environment, with a group of criminals that fear Garp. They know if they kill or abandon the boys, Garp will Kill them, so they raise them, albeit not in a loving environment. Garp hopes the boys will wanna stop criminals like Dadan, and not to grow up like the scumbags they are.

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                                                            A magical strange Twilight Zone episode where no other education is offered, and the only option is Bill Nye the Science Guy videos

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                                                              Its not just likely, its a sure thing. He was already rubber and being admonished for eating the DF by Garp as he was being dragged in and dumped with Dadan.

                                                              haha… you're correct. that's what I get for only reading the chapter once.

                                                              WARNING (Explicit Dialog)!!

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                                                                I think that maybe Garp raised Dragon like, loving. He cared from him, maybe they had a good relationship. Dragon wanted to be a Marine to help save people like his dad, Garp wanted his son to surpass him and become a great Marine. Dragon, Saw the cruel and corrupt side of the Marines, and despite his father being a "good Marine" Wouldn't stand up to it.

                                                                Now when Garp gets to raise Luffy, he decides to put him through hell to train him, but his Marine duty's keep him from staying at the island, so he has Whoop Slap and Makino keep an eye on Luffy when he's gone. Shanks arrives, Luffy gets the hat, dream, and fruit and Shanks leaves. Garp comes back to find this, and thinks he needs to do what he did with Ace, show him the dark side of the world.

                                                                He has Luffy and Ace grow up in a bad environment, with a group of criminals that fear Garp. They know if they kill or abandon the boys, Garp will Kill them, so they raise them, albeit not in a loving environment. Garp hopes the boys will wanna stop criminals like Dadan, and not to grow up like the scumbags they are.

                                                                Thats pretty much what happened. Luffy and Ace being pirates do far more good than they probably could if they were marines. The logic did work for Garp, just not exactly as expected.

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                                                                    CarlosNet's translation came out, at last. 🙂

                                                                    http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/21895

                                                                    If I write something wrong, excuse my english….

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                                                                      CarlosNet's translation came out, at last. 🙂

                                                                      http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/21895

                                                                      thanks.
                                                                      but what is this?
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                                                                      Dadan: And that's a fact, is it?!!!
                                                                      Garp: …......What was that?
                                                                      Dadan: ...We'll be happy to have him!!!

                                                                      edit: ah, nevermind, I figured it now. Didn't notice that is Dadan's voice from the background

                                                                      "Happily ever after is so once upon a time"


                                                                      thanks Samwize78 for the avatar

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                                                                        CarlosNet's translation came out, at last. 🙂

                                                                        http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/21895

                                                                        Oh, i totally forgot about cnets translations ever since Binktopia fused with Mangastream. Are there still groups that use his translations, cause i never really liked the MS and Bink/MS ones…

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                                                                          Oh, i totally forgot about cnets translations ever since Binktopia fused with Mangastream. Are there still groups that use his translations, cause i never really liked the MS and Bink/MS ones…

                                                                          Franky House uses Cnet's translation, but lately they are very slow. And thefolenangel released chapter 481 using his translation.

                                                                          But nobody has used yet his translation of chapter 482, though.

                                                                          If I write something wrong, excuse my english….

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                                                                            Franky House uses Cnet's translation, but lately they are very slow. And thefolenangel released chapter 481 using his translation.

                                                                            But nobody has used yet his translation of chapter 482, though.

                                                                            Nobody has the raw, so…

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                                                                              The raw is on Raw Distro.

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                                                                                Hmm, So Dadan was their Foster Mother? I guess THAT's what Oda mean ages back
                                                                                when he said Luffy's Mom would be fat and ugly, and mean - DADAN !

                                                                                Nice we get to see more of Luffy and Ace's childhood. And Luffy coming to terms with Ace's Death.
                                                                                I feel pretty bad though, poor kids, being brought up in Foster Care. This is a good chapter, shows the more emotional layers of One Piece.

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                                                                                I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

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                                                                                In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                                                                  This chapter serves as another extraordinary example of the amazing talent Oda possesses.

                                                                                  Honestly when I first read the chapter, I had to walk away three times after seeing the painful emotions that were running through Luffy. Oda made it a point to really emphasize how hurt and lost Luffy is. He took his time creating those crying faces which is the type of crying face a person would have when losing a brother, I know I would bawl like that when that day comes for me (God Forbid).

                                                                                  I can sense the hurt, anger and frustration on top of the fact that there was nothing Luffy could or can do about his brothers death….not anything to bring him back anyway.

                                                                                  Luffy needs to channel this emotion and rid the hatred! Hatred is only going to get him and his loved ones killed. If he can find some way to channel those negative emotions as fuel for his dream then we can expect to see some amazing things.

                                                                                  LOL WTF ITS A MANGA, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH :ninja:

                                                                                  And what exactly is your point? Are you trying to say that there is something wrong with someone enjoying something to the fullest?

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                                                                                    And what exactly is your point? Are you trying to say that there is something wrong with someone enjoying something to the fullest?

                                                                                    Don't mind noobs… :ninja:

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                                                                                      And what exactly is your point? Are you trying to say that there is something wrong with someone enjoying something to the fullest?

                                                                                      It's highly situational, really.

                                                                                      For instance if you thoroughly enjoy eating shit, I wouldn't judge but you'd definately be categorized in the "scat monkey" section of people I know.

                                                                                      In the same way some people could consider that "crying hard over a manga, and not even the most emotional part of it", is an action to be categorized under the "probably has no life" section of the people they know. This is derived of the notion that people who get that emotional over fiction are generally not getting enough of it in their lives, that is, not living enough, hence the "no life" accusations. The other possibilities are that you are a woman, gay, or a very sensitive manly man. I like to consider myself that last one.

                                                                                      It's mostly semantics. Don't listen to them and get your manly tear fix from anything you want. Even if its eating shit.

                                                                                      UsoppSpell!

                                                                                      On the eve of spoilerificaiton, you will wait until you remember it's break week.

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                                                                                        LOL WTF ITS A MANGA, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH :ninja:

                                                                                        @UsoppSpell:

                                                                                        It's highly situational, really.

                                                                                        For instance if you thoroughly enjoy eating shit, I wouldn't judge but you'd definately be categorized in the "scat monkey" section of people I know.

                                                                                        What a wonderful example. :wassat:

                                                                                        @UsoppSpell:

                                                                                        In the same way some people could consider that "crying hard over a manga, and not even the most emotional part of it", is an action to be categorized under the "probably has no life" section of the people they know. This is derived of the notion that people who get that emotional over fiction are generally not getting enough of it in their lives, that is, not living enough, hence the "no life" accusations. The other possibilities are that you are a woman, gay, or a very sensitive manly man. I like to consider myself that last one.

                                                                                        It's mostly semantics. Don't listen to them and get your manly tear fix from anything you want. Even if its eating shit.

                                                                                        I don't judge people…not my job and im not getting paid for it. Crying over manga chapters may be a little extreme for my taste, although there may be some exceptions to it.

                                                                                        I had to walk away...so what? Im attached to the charactes, especially Luffy. I imagine the suffering he is going through right now and then it starts to get me to think about my older brother and how I would feel if he died in front of me (let alone murdered).

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                                                                                          What a wonderful example. :wassat:

                                                                                          I don't judge people…not my job and im not getting paid for it. Crying over manga chapters may be a little extreme for my taste, although there may be some exceptions to it.

                                                                                          I had to walk away...so what? Im attached to the charactes, especially Luffy. I imagine the suffering he is going through right now and then it starts to get me to think about my older brother and how I would feel if he died in front of me (let alone murdered).

                                                                                          you're just fucking homosexual…

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                                                                                            you're just fucking homosexual…

                                                                                            and gay. . . . . . . . .

                                                                                            Remember, remember, the 5th of November

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                                                                                              you're just fucking homosexual…

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                                                                                              and gay. . . . . . . . .

                                                                                              And gets more pussy then you two kids combined 😉

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                                                                                                I heard that there was an Interview with Oda on FM Okazaki (JOZZ6AF FM) - 76.3 FM
                                                                                                and he mentioned the sentence "no 17 anymore"
                                                                                                can someone bring the whole interview from any where .. my friend saw it in 2ch ..
                                                                                                can Aohige_AP san check for us also?

                                                                                                Syria is bleeding and the world is still watching

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                                                                                                  I heard that there was an Interview with Oda on FM Okazaki (JOZZ6AF FM) - 76.3 FM
                                                                                                  and he mentioned the sentence "no more 17 anymore"
                                                                                                  can someone bring the whole interview from any where .. my friend saw it in 2ch ..
                                                                                                  can Aohige_AP san check for us also?

                                                                                                  This has already been discussed a lot. It went something like "This is the last adventure you'll see with Luffy as a 17 year old."

                                                                                                  There was a whole topic over it here, in fact.

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                                                                                                    What a wonderful example. :wassat:

                                                                                                    I don't judge people…not my job and im not getting paid for it. Crying over manga chapters may be a little extreme for my taste, although there may be some exceptions to it.

                                                                                                    I had to walk away...so what? Im attached to the charactes, especially Luffy. I imagine the suffering he is going through right now and then it starts to get me to think about my older brother and how I would feel if he died in front of me (let alone murdered).

                                                                                                    If your Bro Die, then thats it, we are all gonna die in the end, and since Life is Short, wherever it happen Sooner or Later, Nothing Matter.

                                                                                                    An Advise : Enjoy your Time by getting Drunk.

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                                                                                                      If your Bro Die, then thats it, we are all gonna die in the end, and since Life is Short, wherever it happen Sooner or Later, Nothing Matter.

                                                                                                      An Advise : Enjoy your Time by getting Drunk.

                                                                                                      Aside from the advice of enjoying your time by getting drunk, this is retarded.

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                                                                                                        Aside from the advice of enjoying your time by getting drunk, this is retarded.

                                                                                                        i have to agree it sounded like something an emo would say

                                                                                                        anyways are we expecting early releases on the next chapter…. it happens sometimes i think like around Friday for RAW's?

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