Shueisha wants to get rid of free online manga
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Right behind three series of fecal matter printed on pulp.
Just curious folks, WHAT THE FUCK IS ROSARIO VAMPIRE?!!!!
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It's Twilight with anime characters and ecchi.
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Right behind three series of fecal matter printed on pulp.
Just curious folks, WHAT THE FUCK IS ROSARIO VAMPIRE?!!!!
What makes me fuckin' confused more than anything is, they refer to it as "Season II"…
Since when do fucking comic books have "Seasons"?!Companies are getting WAY too big on this "Season" bullshit...
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Personally, I wanna know what the deal is with these Yu-Gi-Oh extensions NOT drawn or written by Takahashi
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Personally, I wanna know what the deal is with these Yu-Gi-Oh extensions NOT drawn or written by Takashi
Card games on motercyclesWho knows. Yu-Gi-Oh is being thrown all around the place in every which way and form. -
I'm sure the next Yugioh would involve them dueling on rollerblades while trying to keep their balance along the side of a rocket blasting into space.
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Right behind three series of fecal matter printed on pulp.
Just curious folks, WHAT THE FUCK IS ROSARIO VAMPIRE?!!!!
Manga that ran in Monthly Jump, now in Jump SQ.
It's one of the magazine's most popular series.
What makes me fuckin' confused more than anything is, they refer to it as "Season II"…
Since when do fucking comic books have "Seasons"?!Companies are getting WAY too big on this "Season" bullshit...
"Season II" is the material produced after the magazine change to Jump SQ.
Same concept as Aqua to Aria, Saiyuki to Saiyuki Reload, JINKI to JINKI:EXTEND to JINKI shinsetsu, etc.
Personally, I wanna know what the deal is with these Yu-Gi-Oh extensions NOT drawn or written by Takashi
Takahashi still came up with the original chara/monster designs and settings.
And 5D's is great, I don't care what anyone says.
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"Season II" is the material produced after the magazine change to Jump SQ.
Same concept as Aqua to Aria, Saiyuki to Saiyuki Reload, JINKI to JINKI:EXTEND to JINKI shinsetsu, etc.
And Trigun to Trigun: MAXIMUM, I get that.
But why call it "Season II"?
Seasons are a TV thing, that's mildly retarded…
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Dunno, I guess the mangaka thought it sounded cool or something. :/
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Just curious folks, WHAT THE FUCK IS ROSARIO VAMPIRE?!!!!
In my opinion it's pretty interesting for a harem-like manga.
Just ignore the anime adaption it's just fan service with almost no relation to the (far better) manga.
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But why call it "Season II"?
"Season I" ends somewhat openly. It mainly was focusing on the male protagonist (Tsukune). "Season II" is more focusing on the female protagonist (Moka) as it seems, but appends where "Season I" ended.
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Card games on motercyclesWho knows. Yu-Gi-Oh is being thrown all around the place in every which way and form.I'm just waiting for Neon Genesis Yu-Gi-Oh and Hokuto no Yu-Gi-Oh.
Speaking of which, season 0 was a lot like HNK…
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Is the state of affairs now thus that prior to actually having access to the original Japanese comic, foreigners will exclusively have access to translated versions of the comic before its release in Japan?
That's been the state of affairs for a couple of months now. Binktopia/Mangastream have their own private source that releases early, and they don't share their raws. There was some big hullabaloo a while back between them and another scanlation group (sleepyfans, perhaps? I didn't care enough to remember) about their raw provider and threats being sent, etc, etc. Outcome was that Binktopia got exclusive rights to the earliest release, and since then, they've been releasing their scanlation a day or two before anything but a camera raw is available.
Which pisses me off, since even though Binktopia is probably the most accurate translation out there, I still prefer to read the raw first, since they make mistakes. That and OP fans can't keep spoilers to themselves once a translation is available. -_-
Are you sure it was jump, because I'm pretty sure it Funimation.
For all the AMVs, parodies, and clips, if it wasn't removed due to musical copyrights (damn you WMG), it was taken down by request of Funimation.
Funimation's actually pretty cool about clips. I've got a bunch of Zoro ones up on Youtube, and they've never taken any down. They country blocked my Zoro vs Mr. 1 clip for a while, but it's now available again. I think that they're fine with clips as long as they've released the episodes already. Once they released the end of the Alabaster arc, they took the block off my video.
I think it's kind of funny that a large chunk of my hits come from Japan. ^_^ Also, the number of old people who view my Zoro Tarzan-call video is disproportionally high. I think they click expecting to see the real Tarzan or something . . .
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so theres going to be no raws and only scanlations available from now…?
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some sayingthat "Publishers, especially Japan’s giant publishing houses, deeply fear disruptions to their established way of doing things, but with new technology change is inevitable.
Online distribution, far from “wounding” mangaka as Shueisha claims, may actually free them from the control of traditional publishers – in the process destroying paper sales, which may be what publishers fear the most."source:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/24/publishers-fear-mangaka-not-pirates/ -
WoW If I wan't to buy a Manga, I'll have to travel 2 hours by plane to Denmark and find the one shop in Copenhagen I know sells mangas. OP is currently during the Water 7 arc while I'm reading every new chapter of Naruto, Bleach and OP. So I guess it will end my career as a manga fan if this thing happens.
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WoW If I wan't to buy a Manga, I'll have to travel 2 hours by plane to Denmark and find the one shop in Copenhagen I know sells mangas. OP is currently during the Water 7 arc while I'm reading every new chapter of Naruto, Bleach and OP. So I guess it will end my career as a manga fan if this thing happens.
Or… you could order it online. You obviously have internet. There's online stores now. They even have shipping right to your home and everything.
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some sayingthat "Publishers, especially Japan’s giant publishing houses, deeply fear disruptions to their established way of doing things, but with new technology change is inevitable.
Online distribution, far from “wounding” mangaka as Shueisha claims, may actually free them from the control of traditional publishers – in the process destroying paper sales, which may be what publishers fear the most."source:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/24/publishers-fear-mangaka-not-pirates/Before even talking about the content of that argument, I'm going to step out and say Sankaku is a filthy tabloid with made-up reporting, do not take anything you read their seriously. Think of it as a poor man's anime-themed The Onion, only instead of employing the scientific method approach to funny they're using a knock-off variant, the "I don't wanna talk to a scientist. Y'all motherfudgers lying, and getting me pissed!" method.
That said, while it's true artists would be able to bypass traditional publishing it hasn't happened yet because people don't get the same sense of ownership of an online scan that they get out of a book. Effectively they're the same thing - a book is an unlimited-use license from the publisher (who owns the IP) to the consumer, while an online scan is likewise an unlimited-use license. The difference in price is reflected in the markup of the capital invested in making the book, and for most people the sense of actually owning something corporeal in the Lockean sense is a minimum.
Plus, if given the option to pirate something for free or pay for it online, people will pirate it because it's easy and there are no consequences.
So yeah, like it or not pen & paper publishers are here to stay for a while longer. Now music and record companies, those industries need to go the way of the dinosaurs…
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Before even talking about the content of that argument, I'm going to step out and say Sankaku is a filthy tabloid with made-up reporting, do not take anything you read their seriously. Think of it as a poor man's anime-themed The Onion, only instead of employing the scientific method approach to funny they're using a knock-off variant, the "I don't wanna talk to a scientist. Y'all motherfudgers lying, and getting me pissed!"
That said, while it's true artists would be able to bypass traditional publishing it hasn't happened yet because people don't get the same sense of ownership of an online scan that they get out of a book. Effectively they're the same thing - a book is an unlimited-use license from the publisher (who owns the IP) to the consumer, while an online scan is likewise an unlimited-use license. The difference in price is reflected in the markup of the capital invested in making the book, and for most people the sense of actually owning something corporeal in the Lockean sense is a minimum.
Plus, if given the option to pirate something for free or pay for it online, people will pirate it because it's easy and there are no consequences.
So yeah, like it or not pen & paper publishers are here to stay for a while longer. Now music and record companies, those industries need to go the way of the dinosaurs…
sorry…. but i am agree with you...
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What terek said.
Especially about Sankaku.
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If it happens, then there's other things I could do in my life.
nothin' more to add.
It takes less tme reading the volume once it gets released instead of waiting each time for the raw release.
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so theres going to be no raws and only scanlations available from now…?
Undereducated member, please conjure your reading skills to their limit and read this thread to get the general gist.
If the above requires too much cognitive activity for you, just jog over to onemanga forums.
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According to the virtue of generosity(Dan/Alm), we fans have the Religious and Spiritual Freedom to share what we own from buying and being given.
I say to hell with Intellectual Property rights, and all other laws privatizing entertainment and knowledge.
Freedom is our birth right, and with it comes the responsibility to respect all other living things. No individual, law, or nation can take Free Will away while it rests in the hearts of humans; and similarly nothing can protect it when it has corroded away.
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You must never have created anything of worth or value in your life.
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Typical commie speech.
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Typical commie speech.
Please don't bring political rhetoric into this. The concept of sharing art with others has nothing to do with communism.
Of course this also shouldn't be an issue of "It's art so it should be free!"; We should all be willing to pay a reasonable amount.
As I said earlier, most of us would be fine with 10 or 20 dollars a year to visit an archive site like onemanga. -
Er, it was a joke.
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Yeah RoboBlue, I wouldn't take Zenigame to be the type to say something like that seriously. Especially in a non-politics topic.
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Undereducated member, please conjure your reading skills to their limit and read this thread to get the general gist.
If the above requires too much cognitive activity for you, just jog over to onemanga forums.
Thanks for your sarcasm but I have found someone that still does upload raws. Scanlations still require raws so it will be safe to assume that if scanlations don't stop, someone must have the raws too. Next time please just ignore the question if you have no response to it, being a smart ass gets u nowhere.
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Well, mangastream got itself attention of Viz media with the Iphone manga reading app.
It took them a week to send the C&D, of the app. but now that they proved that know that mangastream exist, it could be a matter of time to close them?
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…way to go, guys... -_-;;
They seem to have forgotten rule #1 of doing something illegal: KEEP YOUR SHIT INCONSPICUOUS.
I've gotten hits from actual publishing companies too, but I keep things quiet so nobody's really messed with me. :/
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Making an app was extremely dumb. Should've followed suit of Onemanga and just make a mobile site.
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Well, mangastream got itself attention of Viz media with the Iphone manga reading app.
It took them a week to send the C&D, of the app. but now that they proved that know that mangastream exist, it could be a matter of time to close them?
I strongly suspect someone at VIZ Media who has a connection with this site in particular is supporting the online manga sites from the shadows. With VIZ Media making more blood money from manga than it ever has in history, it has little right to complain about online pirates, so for the most part that is left alone.
Making an app, however, is downright retarded. If the current legal/online climate of pirated manga is "don't tell, don't sue" that is the equivalent of mooning and/or goatse-ing VIZ Media executives.
Perhaps what surprises me most is that such a stupid (and illegal) idea got approved by Apple!
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I strongly suspect someone at VIZ Media who has a connection with this site in particular is supporting the online manga sites from the shadows.
That's a bit too far into the crazy conspiracy category, methinks.
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I strongly suspect someone at VIZ Media who has a connection with this site in particular is supporting the online manga sites from the shadows. With VIZ Media making more blood money from manga than it ever has in history, it has little right to complain about online pirates, so for the most part that is left alone.
I can tell you that, I personally have had several conversations with a senior Viz staff who shall remain nameless, and know that they are well aware of the fanbases, fansub distribution, and other illegal fanbased distribution of manga and anime, and the role it plays in their industry. And he/she was very close to the base as well.
There were many, many blatant connection between the publisher and the niche fanbase market which were run completely unofficially and illegally.
Same goes for many other anime licensing companies, including ADVision, whom I also had the pleasure of speaking to couple of senior editors back in the days.
Guys, they DO know. And keeps informed.Of course, this was back in the dark ages of fanbase when fansubs were distributed mainly through nth generation VHS tapes and stored/lended out from University anime clubs.
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Well, I think the bottom line for this "illegal distribution of anime/manga" is that they should never try to reap huge monetary benefit from the said action.
Of course, I understand that the distribution need money/funding/resources to carry out, so I am quite ok with maybe some donation or support or income from website ad .
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artists don't want people to download there music for free online
still happens
movie directors/actors etc. don't want us watching there movies for free online
still happens
Shueisha doesn't want us to read manga's for free online….
still gonna happen
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Wow, really mangastream?
That was preeeeeeeeetty idiotic.
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I find it hard to believe that viz did not know about them. I mean all they need to do is go to a forum of any of the big 3 to find mangastream, or google "read one piece free". Mangastream is turning into the spoiled rich kid that acts like a douche, everybody hates them, but they have good stuff so we put up with their constant retardedness.
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I think if Shueisha is doing this because of money they're losing they should put up a site where you can read their mangas that come out weekly online at the same cost the Japanese have to pay for a year account to weekly SJ magazine
i'd be fine with paying what the Japanese do to get read my mangas online with out them being edited, they could make a ton of money doing this too
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Same goes for many other anime licensing companies, including ADVision, whom I also had the pleasure of speaking to couple of senior editors back in the days.
RIP ADV.
Never forget, you will always be missed. ;_;
artists don't want people to download there music for free online
no
Do you really think Tay Zonday or whoever was thinking "I'M GONNA BE A THOUSANDAIRE THROUGH THE YT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM" when they uploaded their first song? There's a point where distro, even if it's piracy, is flattering. If I'm an obscure nobody and someone plays a song I wrote and gives me credit, I'd be muuuuch more forgiving than a huge corporation that makes buckets of money every second getting pissed off at a tiny radio station playing a song it didn't pay for the rights to air.
In economics I studied some music group I don't care about who donated an entire album to their fans and asked if the fans like it, they can pay them the retail price for it online. I think the band was the Crickets or something. Well, very few people donated, but a LOT downloaded.
I think people who create have some kind of inherent primeval desire to share that creation with others, as opposed to we capitalist cogs who buy, sell and throw away everything and create nothing of value.
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RIP ADV.
Never forget, you will always be missed. ;_;
I'm a bit sore about a lot of shit that ADV did… so I can't say that I'm sad to see them gone.
I can tell you that, I personally have had several conversations with a senior Viz staff who shall remain nameless, and know that they are well aware of the fanbases, fansub distribution, and other illegal fanbased distribution of manga and anime, and the role it plays in their industry. And he/she was very close to the base as well.
There were many, many blatant connection between the publisher and the niche fanbase market which were run completely unofficially and illegally.
Same goes for many other anime licensing companies, including ADVision, whom I also had the pleasure of speaking to couple of senior editors back in the days.Knew that(and more) about ADV since forever ago, didn't know that about Viz.
Now pardon me, I'm going to the store to buy some tinfoil to make a hat out of.
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I'm a bit sore about a lot of shit that ADV did… so I can't say that I'm sad to see them gone.
Not going to take a blind eye to what I think you're talking about, so let me just say as far as anime companies go, they were my designated sinners.
Companies like Geneon and Bandai USA, with their utter lack of empathy and overbearing consumer contempt is well worth my eternal enmity.
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Ah, ADV. Atrociously Dubbed Videos.
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They are missed?Seriously tho. Every year at Akon our booth was like right across from them. I knew a lot of those guys.
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Wait, AP has a booth at AKON or do you have your own booth for something?
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Wait, AP has a booth at AKON or do you have your own booth for something?
Antarctic Press has been there every year since Akon started. Big spot in the middle of the dealers room most years. Many tables.
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On MangaStream's front page:
MangaStream to donate iPhone app proceeds to Child's Play charity
Gotta love how they think that'll stop the firestorm the app caused.