ya, the patern seems to be thay luffy gets a bigger bounty then all that've been shown so far, then he moves on to a new area where it is once again dwarfed by others.
the fact that we havent seen ace or whitbeards bountys yet is so that we don't know the upper limets and can't gage properly what is considered huge in the new world, we know that luffys current bounty is above average in the supernova group, that's about it
The Crew's Bounty
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He's gonna be the Billion beli man!!
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Bounty is something the gov. sees the pirate getting caught is worth. Nobles buy 500mill on things like it's pocket change, the SH pirates have collected hundreds of millions easily, so why would the bounty still stay so low?
Chopper knew of ace, and he was reading something bigger than normal bounty poster, if he knew luffy went to the war, why would he be shocked of his new bounty? Why would he be shocked at all if he knows Ace died and luffy got hurt? The crew viewed the bounty positively, why the shock.
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Each time it basically tripled and there's a slight pattern to it.
30m–---->100m------>300m------>?????
Looking at that, up next would be 1000m or 1b.
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I say 700,000,000+
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It's enough to freak out chopper at least. lol!
I think it will be from 600m-800m
Or just to be evil, 666m
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Oda really should include some kickass bounty hunters in the New World. Otherwise bounty will just be the new Ki/spiritual pressure/chakra/other random meter of shonenpower.
And Supernovas better get kicking ass too. Otherwise Oda's storytelling will start to lack…
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Chopper freaks out over everything though.
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I think They announced War with Dragon
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I think They announced War with Dragon
I think it's something different than bounty… But, it's way too soon for that. No way are the marines prepared after all the losses of the last war. Not to mention they're down to what... 4 Shichibukai.
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i think it will be somewhat near the 900.000.000+
things he did:
broke into impel down
defeated moria
punched a: tenryuubito
freed ALOT of prisoners from impel down
involvement in the war at HQ
in impel down he came down to a level that sort of doesn't exist
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I think the best thing to point to for why Luffy will get a huge bounty is the voracity with which the admirals went after him. The government fears his potential and recent events have further ramped up their willingness to deal with the situation.
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i think it will be somewhat near the 900.000.000+
things he did:
broke into impel down
defeated moria
punched a: tenryuubito
freed ALOT of prisoners from impel down
involvement in the war at HQ
in impel down he came down to a level that sort of doesn't exist
survived magellan's poisonI don't think bounties increase like XP in a RPG game. I doubt the government goes like this:
"Hmmm, he broke into Impel Down, add more 100 million to his bounty! And he punched a Tenryuubito, so that alone should earn him more 200 million."
The bounty is the overall threat of the character. If a bounty head with a large bounty keeps doing outrageous things, the bounty may increase as a sign of the desperation of the government to get that guy caught, but not as much as someone relatively unknown that does the same outrageous things.
That's why I think Luffy's bounty will rise to something between 400 and 500 million. He'll probably have the largest bounty in all of the first half of the Grand Line, just like he became the largest one in East Blue, but when he gets into the New World, where there are even stronger opponents, his bounty will be dwarfed by a few (but not all or even most) of the guys there.
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i also think that his bounty can`t increase to nearly 1.000.000.000 becuase than other pirates on the NW would have what a bounty to seem like a threat?
so my guess is that the WG will give him a bounty between of 600.000.000 or 750.000.000 ^^
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I voted (I can't remember doing it, though oO) 800 million, but the last few chapters make me doubt that. All this talk about him being weak and stuff, just to give him the highest known bounty by far? If it is raised, it can't be helped but be the highest, but I'm fairly sure it won't go into the extremes like my vote. I'm thinking either no raise or 500,000,000.
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so my guess is that the WG will give him a bounty between of 600.000.000 or 750.000.000 ^^
Even that I think is too high.
Look at it this way: every bounty so far had a value that it was comparable to another character's.
Luffy defeated Arlong (20 million) and became the highest bounty in East Blue (30 million). We enter the Grand Line, and not long after we meet guys that dwarf Luffy's bounty (Robin's 79 million; Crocodile's former bounty of 81 million).
Then Luffy's bounty rises to 100 million. Not long after we find that the other shichibukai have much higher bounties (DoFla's former 340 million; Kuma's former 295 million).
Luffy does outrageous things and his bounty goes up to 300 million! Wow! However, not only he's still in the same range as the shichibukai (including Moria's former 320 million), but there are also several other guys that have bounties in the same range (Jinbei's, Drake's, Hawkin's and Kidd's).
So, I think Luffy's bounty is gonna go up, but it won't be a huge leap. Him jumping to the range of 600-750 million leaves a huge gap. Where are all those guys with bounties in the range of 400-600 million? When we find them, Luffy will already have dwarfed them. Plus, it means that almost every serious enemy will have a bounty of even higher, coming close to the billions. I think the billion-range bounties should be reserved for the top guys (the Yonkou).
So, I think Luffy's bounty will just go to the next range (400-500 million). We will find in the New Worlds guys in the same range, a little above or a little bellow at first, but it won't be long before we also find those who are in the upper millions.
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I'm thinking around 450 million, I don't think it will shoot up anymore than that since he would the surpass all the other supernovas greatly, and the strawhat crew would seem more like a one-man army :/
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The war has only ended approximately two weeks ago, in OP time line. The Marines are recovering from the war, they need to rebuild HQ and anything else.
There is also the increased chaos due to loss of WB, and on top of that the release of 'how many' Level 6 prisoners; from this I can gather that Marine HQ is just too busy to go after Luffy at the moment.
Will there be a bounty increase, very likely; but will it be the last increase in this half of the grandline, I don't think so. I also think there will be an increase and unfreezing of Jimbei's bounty, Crocodile, etc..
How does one judge threat to the WG; is it potential ability or current ability?
If Luffy gets a bounty increase how much will it increase to?
If it is based on his current fighting strength it is likely to be between 300M-350M Bellies. If the Marines find him; with his current abilities Luffy has no chance against the Marines and a bounty of 300M-350M Bellies reflect that.If it is based on his reputation and his 'diplomatic' abilities (meaning his ability to make allies) and also due to the incidents that he was involved, then it is likely to be easily 700M+ Bellies. If the Marines catch him then he is still in trouble, because his overall combat ability hasn't changed.
I always thought of current bounties as a very loose guideline to judge the combat abilities of those who have bounties (and they seem to be accurate to a certain extent); however there have been exception e.g. the Shichibukai (their bounties had been frozen and is not up to date).
In the page below Iva states that if he were to get out he would exposing himself to the risk of recapture; this indicates that even if he were to escape there is a chance that someone as strong as him can still be captured. If people have bounties it helps the Marine in tracking the pirates and criminals, when they find the criminal then they send the appropriate force to apprehend the criminal. Do bounties work? If we look at ID we see many strong prisoner in ID and ID is also made of Levels. Oda may not always say it but we can see that high level prisoners are some how apprehended: so it seems that bounties may enhance criminal reputations but it is also helps capture them. Now with the introduction of the Pacifista the enforcement and apprehension of criminal should be easier. On the side note due to the loss of WB there is also an increase of chaos in the grandline.
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Why are people voting "350,000,000?"
Does anyone seriously think that all the stuff Luffy's done isn't worthy 600,000 at the very least?
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If Luffy doesn't get at least a Billion, it will be because the Marines are trying to downplay his worth right now. But after EVERYTHING that's happened, I don't think they can anymore. Hell, they pretty much announced that his father is Dragon, so there's no way they can cover him up as not being a threat.
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i'm betting on a billion, but no more than that. its more likely to be around 800 mil.
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Before i was betting on 600 million, but at this point i lean more towards a billion.
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Why are people voting "350,000,000?"
Does anyone seriously think that all the stuff Luffy's done isn't worthy 600,000 at the very least?
Wow, you have low standards.
Deicide has convinced me. 450.000.000 seems like a good number.
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Except that he was given a 200 mil bonus to his bounty just for taking down Enies Lobby, and need I remind you of what he's done since then?
-Beaten a Shichibukai (Moria)
-Escaped another Shichibukai at Thriller Bark (Kuma)
-Punched a Noble
-Escaped Kizaru, Kuma, Sentoumaru and multiple Pacifistas
-Broke into Impel Down, for the second time ever (or first?)
-Escaped Impel Down, releasing a ton of wanted prisoners
-Freed Ace from the scaffolding
-Announced as the son of Dragon
-Escaped the war
-Guarded by big players like Ace, WB and Jinbei
-Has King's HakiAll that stuff's worth way more than taking down Enies Lobby and escaping a Buster Call.
And if it's just because you're worried that there's no one who would be able to match Luffy's bounty: just wait. We'll be in the New World soon enough.
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Except that he was given a 200 mil bonus to his bounty just for taking down Enies Lobby, and need I remind you of what he's done since then?
All that stuff's worth way more than taking down Enies Lobby and escaping a Buster Call.
And if it's just because you're worried that there's no one who would be able to match Luffy's bounty: just wait. We'll be in the New World soon enough.
Well, given that both your post and Deicide's make sense, then it also seems lkely that he may get a huge bounty rise, but we don't hear about it until they get to the NW…
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Even that I think is too high.
Look at it this way: every bounty so far had a value that it was comparable to another character's.
Luffy defeated Arlong (20 million) and became the highest bounty in East Blue (30 million). We enter the Grand Line, and not long after we meet guys that dwarf Luffy's bounty (Robin's 79 million; Crocodile's former bounty of 81 million).
Then Luffy's bounty rises to 100 million. Not long after we find that the other shichibukai have much higher bounties (DoFla's former 340 million; Kuma's former 295 million).
Luffy does outrageous things and his bounty goes up to 300 million! Wow! However, not only he's still in the same range as the shichibukai (including Moria's former 320 million), but there are also several other guys that have bounties in the same range (Jinbei's, Drake's, Hawkin's and Kidd's).
So, I think Luffy's bounty is gonna go up, but it won't be a huge leap. Him jumping to the range of 600-750 million leaves a huge gap. Where are all those guys with bounties in the range of 400-600 million? When we find them, Luffy will already have dwarfed them. Plus, it means that almost every serious enemy will have a bounty of even higher, coming close to the billions. I think the billion-range bounties should be reserved for the top guys (the Yonkou).
So, I think Luffy's bounty will just go to the next range (400-500 million). We will find in the New Worlds guys in the same range, a little above or a little bellow at first, but it won't be long before we also find those who are in the upper millions.
he jumped from 100 mille to 300 mille because he infiltrated EL.
now he hit a tenryibuto(which seems to be one of those crimes which are in the world of OP strictly forbidden and because the celestrial dragons stand behind it they won`t let this guy run around free and would even pay themselves more to get that guy)
means that should high his bounty a lot.luffy infiltrated ID…
i mean it is more of a disaster for the WG than having EL destroyed...
but well, they will most likely hide oit from the world...non the less the marine wants those guys who did it.
should increase luffy`s bounty also (and seeing that EL brought him 200Mille alone ID incident should bring the same result)luffy making himself a name in the WAR!...
akainu stated that luffy is a guy they shouldn`t joke with and he wants luffy dead...all in all it
s definetly more stuff luffy did to piss the WG off than by his 200Mille bounty raise. (and iam not even counting that they know that moria was defeated by him) so in my opinion they should at least double his bounty to get a bounty worth for luffy
s actions.
i mean we thought he couldnt piss off the WG more than with ID..but he doubtless did^^ so infiltrating ID which so far only could be done by a legend like shiki, should put luffy also to this kind of toptier-bounty ala shiki, (which i guess could be between 600-750 mille.) even when we know from the pure strenght luffy is far away from being there.. but as stated in the manga the bounty isn
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Also don't get confused. Luffy is still weaker than a lot of those in the same bounty range, but bounties are based on threats to the WG not strength in particular. I'm sure everyone already know that, but i just wanted to put it out there.
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Also don't get confused. Luffy is still weaker than a lot of those in the same bounty range.
Oh c'mon thats wrong.
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Oh c'mon thats wrong.
I didn't say all… i said a lot of. He's probably stronger than all of the other Eleven Supernova and Moria, but i don't think he could beat Kuma.
at least, not alone.
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I didn't say all… i said a lot of. He's probably stronger than all of the other Eleven Supernova and Moria, but i don't think he could beat Kuma.
at least, not alone.
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i really dont think his bounty will hit the billion, cus his bounty is already at the high end for a supernova, and bigger then a lot of the shichibukai. Yes, his bounty was raised by 200 mill for taking out enis lobby but that's because he had a low threat bounty before that, but now that his bounty is already quite high, it shouldny go to much i higher, i think 500 mill - 600 mill will be around right
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1.000.000 Berry
No seriously… i think 500 - 600 Millions^^
But I really want to know how the SHs will keep up with this... Something awesome has to happen for them in the next time or maybe they did something bounty increasin worthy on their way back^^
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Like I said, I don't think bounties work like XP gain in a RPG. It's not like the government has a tab of "bounties" for each feat.
_"Let's calculate Strawhat Luffy's new bounty:
Current: 300M
Defeated Gecko Moria: +70M
Invaded and escaped Impel Down: +300M
Is son of Dragon: +100M
Terrible Potential for the future: +200MNew Bounty: 970M"_
I don't think it works like that. If you are relatively unknown pirate with 50M and you invade Impel Down, maybe your bounty will rise to 300M. But if you're already a 300M pirate, then I don't think it deserves the same raise.
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It won't be a massive increase, 500 million at most.
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500 mill seems like a cool number .
I just pray that he'll get something , I mean the only things more outrageous he could have done by now is climb the red wall like Fisher Tiger and personaly rape the five Gorousei .
Show some balls guys , don't let Luffy make you his bitch (I know he lost a lota times since TB , but my point is them sitting quietly and trying to ignore it)
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Whenever the topic of bounties comes up, I always ask myself, "what purpose do they serve?"
So far, there have been no competant bounty hunters shown. If the shichibukai functioned like privateers, they should be going around getting all sorts of bounty heads. As it is, they mostly just screw around.
Also, there has never been a scene showing someone GETTING a bounty reward, although several characters should have been able to claim them. Blackbeard certainly should've cashed in on Ace's massive bounty, and Crocodile should've been ranking it in while a shichibukai, and it was said that Kizaru brought in like 200 pirates on Sabaody, but none of them have been paid the actual bounty, as far as we can tell.
So, I ask, what is the point of bounties? Except for the marines, who should be going after pirates anyway, regardless of the extra bonus, nobody seems interested in catching pirates.
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Like I said, I don't think bounties work like XP gain in a RPG. It's not like the government has a tab of "bounties" for each feat.
_"Let's calculate Strawhat Luffy's new bounty:
Current: 300M
Defeated Gecko Moria: +70M
Invaded and escaped Impel Down: +300M
Is son of Dragon: +100M
Terrible Potential for the future: +200MNew Bounty: 970M"_
I don't think it works like that. If you are relatively unknown pirate with 50M and you invade Impel Down, maybe your bounty will rise to 300M. But if you're already a 300M pirate, then I don't think it deserves the same raise.
It's just a rough guess but i'd say that bounties at some point become irrelevant past a certain level. I.E. Shanks, WB, Kaidou, ect.
I don't think there is anything any of these people can do that would make them considered a threat higher than they already are. To put a larger bounty on them is irrelevant since there are few people who can stand toe to toe with them in the first place.
With that said i would think a huge bounty jump from 300 - 900 is a lil unrealistic. I'd say he probably caps out at 600m or something beneath that. My bet is a 50% increase of his existing bounty.
All of the Sh's may have a slight increase for their part on SA.
EDIT: I'm not saying bounties in general cap out at 600m. the Youkou probably boarder on 1billion. But luffy's gain potential caps at around 600m im guessing.
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I'm not saying bounties in general cap out at 600m. the Youkou probably boarder on 1billion. But luffy's gain potential caps at around 600m im guessing.
I assume the Yonkou don't even have a bounty seeing as no one, aside from another Yonkou (and Teach), would be crazy to even attempt to collect a bounty.
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800,000,000 Beli "Son of the Leader of the Revolutionaries" Monkey D. Luffy
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600 !!!!! milions berry!!!
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Whenever the topic of bounties comes up, I always ask myself, "what purpose do they serve?"
So far, there have been no competant bounty hunters shown. If the shichibukai functioned like privateers, they should be going around getting all sorts of bounty heads. As it is, they mostly just screw around.
Also, there has never been a scene showing someone GETTING a bounty reward, although several characters should have been able to claim them. Blackbeard certainly should've cashed in on Ace's massive bounty, and Crocodile should've been ranking it in while a shichibukai, and it was said that Kizaru brought in like 200 pirates on Sabaody, but none of them have been paid the actual bounty, as far as we can tell.
So, I ask, what is the point of bounties? Except for the marines, who should be going after pirates anyway, regardless of the extra bonus, nobody seems interested in catching pirates.
they're fun and they show progression throughout the series in some sort of tangible format that even a child can understand.
i dont think anything else really needs to be said about them. maybe we'll see bounty hunters in the future but they are sort of like a quick "notoriety" scale to work with and frankly they are really fun to see.
plus bounty posters have lead to the sanji/duval thing.
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i think they wont be a price increase, instead it will be WANTED DEAD poster or if u capture/kill you will be awarded noble status?
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i bet 560 mil!!!!!!!!!!
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i think they wont be a price increase, instead it will be WANTED DEAD poster or if u capture/kill you will be awarded noble status?
your idea is sound, but i hope that doesnt happpen, it would be so boring. bountys are fun, anyway going to reiterate my ealier guess of between 500 and 600 mill, i mean thats doubling it, any higher would be over doing it
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Well we have a pattern for Luffy's bounty:
1st: 30 million
2nd: 100 million
3rd: 300 millionSo it always is 3x the former bounty … but I think 900 million will be way too much since I think IF the Yonkous have a bouty it's about that high.
So I think it's "just" doubled.
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Well we have a pattern for Luffy's bounty:
1st: 30 million
2nd: 100 million
3rd: 300 millionSo it always is 3x the former bounty ….
That's common, but it's just bad math. 30 mil. x3 makes 90 mil…
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1st: 30 million
2nd: 100 million
3rd: 300 million
4th: 1,000 million (1 billion)
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Well we have a pattern for Luffy's bounty:
1st: 30 million
2nd: 100 million
3rd: 300 millionSo it always is 3x the former bounty … but I think 900 million will be way too much since I think IF the Yonkous have a bouty it's about that high.
So I think it's "just" doubled.
Didn't they say that Luffy could possibly replace a yonkou at one point? I was almost certain they did. I wouldn't be surpirsed if his bounty went that high. My bet is still on a billion. we'll know soon.
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OK, that's a theory on the web but I highly doubt that he will gain a Yonkou status.
I mean the Yonkou are somehow tolerated by the WG, but Luffy did various things the WG can't tolerate:- hit a Tenryubito
- broke into ID and freed various dangerous criminals
- disturbed the war
- is the son of Dragon