Sucks that there's another break but as Berserk readers it's just how it is. At least he gave us a reason this time. So another 4 month break to get my Berserk fix.
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i think i'm just going to try and forget about this series for a LOOOONG time…
don't get me wrong, I love Berserk... and I think Miura is doing a wonderful job. I just dislike being let down with another break after reading amazing chapters. I understand that it's part of the man's process however. I mean.. each page is essentially a work of art!
so i'll just give it some time.
hopefully by then i'll be able to come back to a couple chapters of Berserk that resolve some story.
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@VL7:
No, maybe you should read up a little more carefully on what a Hkikimori really is.
Whew thank goodness he ain't.
Miura works very hard on Berserk (which we need to be thankful for) and he seems really obsessed with great detail(which we should be thankful for too). This obviously cuts into his time that he could be spending together with other people. He also seems to be something of a genius, which even though it may sound stereotypical often puts persons on a different kind of wavelength then the rest.
I've read A LOT of stuff from various writers who could be considered geniuses by their works' readers, but they manage to live out their lives fine. Now granted they aren't artists, but heck even artists themselves can get some time to themselves, same goes if they are both the author and artist to a series (like JoJo's B. A. for example, the guy actually pumps nearly 60 pages a MONTH!)
Now note that I am greatcoat for his wonderful series BUT….he's kinda killing it with these breaks of his. I wouldn't mind if he switches to 1 chapter per month if he could do that. -
Berserk fans are among the most dedicated bunch of readers one could find, it's a trademark of the community. You lose that status if you speed up the pace. :O
Warning: Idolmaster is really addictive and Miura will be occupied for a long, long time.
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@VL7:
Miura works very hard on Berserk (which we need to be thankful for) and he seems really obsessed with great detail(which we should be thankful for too).
You make it sound like the guy would be personally drawing every single panel himself.
Big gaps between chapters is a huge turn off for me. I have been doing what Gekko is planning of doing. I let chapters to pile up and once the pile has become something that you can actually call a real pile of… then I read.
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For the sake of getting some actual discussion about the chapter going:
Who else thought it was totally heartwarming to see demons and humans fighting together hand in hand -_-.
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it just makes me wonder when Griffith is going to show his true colors.
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@VL7:
For the sake of getting some actual discussion about the chapter going:
Who else thought it was totally heartwarming to see demons and humans fighting together hand in hand -_-.
Sorry, can't feel anything for that since I know it's only a matter of time before the demons turn on the humans.
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@VL7:
For the sake of getting some actual discussion about the chapter going:
Who else thought it was totally heartwarming to see demons and humans fighting together hand in hand -_-.
Umm…. yeah, I'm not really feeling that. Yeah they're being good now, but they got a lot more to do before we forgive them for the whole rape and massacre thing.
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I can't freaking believe I read though every single chapter from 1 to 301 in 4 days without realizing it. Read every panel(well, except the bad scans that skipped some during the witch hunt arc), and paid attention to every horrifying detail. This is one of the best comics I ever read. Sad it's on break but I don't care.
I do tire of all the double spreads with Griffith though…. I hate that bastard with passion, though casualty is necessary for a goal as big as he is aiming for(so he I guess his face does need alot of the space). I'm not sure whether or not to support him.
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Whatever, I'm starting the stop racism against demons group. Our credo is "The end justifies the means"…or something in that direction...:ninja:
Though, I don't forgive Griffith, nor do I think that the demons will stay friendly. I just think its interesting that should Guts walk in, screaming for revenge against Griffith at an unoportune moment, he'd get branded as the ultimate bad guy in the eyes of almost every person in Midland.
That is sad:sad: -
Where can i get my hans on berserk online manga? They shut it down at onemanga a few months ago so i havnt been able to continue reading =(
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http://www.thespectrum.net/manga_scans/berserk/
They go by volume rather than chapter.
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Just what I was looking for, thanks a lot man
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After having read the latest few chapters, i'm not sure whether or not Gut's will be able to even touch Griffith.
He has the whole complex of 'only discovering things after i've lost them', a pile of regrets, a child that is implied to be his ressurected son and the possibility that if Caska regains her sanity she might not have the will to fight anymore. And compared to Griffith's 'army'(I dont think it can be called that anymore) Guts has a thief, a witch, a witch-in training and her bodyguard. (Not sure whether the Skull Knight counts as an active comrade, he's more of a prophetic character, trying to change fate)
Of course, it makes it all the more excitingto see how it's all going to turn out.
–-One more thing, to those saying 'wait until Griffith reveals his true intentions/wait until the demons turn on them', i'm sure it'd be disguised as some religious ceremony and the people will be completely ignorant towards it.
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^good observation!
also VL7 with the prediction that guts will become the villain in midland's eyes. as cool as it is seeing demons and humans fight and bleed together against a greater foe, I just can't help but feel disappointed at the same time. It's an extremely bittersweet feeling for me.
…it's just not right.... Apostles are people who have taken on the form of their inner evil...
and after the eclipse i'll never be able to forgive Griffith
GUTS 4 LIFE!!!
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Well their are a couple of theories on how Guts will be able to rival Griffith in his Godhand mode.
1. Schierke and him will get alot better at merging. This has happened a couple of time already when she brought him back from full Berseker Armor mode when she entered his Ego that Fiona sealed behind the seal. So there maybe a point when they're might be a fully controllable Berseker mode. Also there's the elemental weapon infusion we saw when Guts was riding Zodd and Schierke put the a element in his sword which gave him a way to hurt the Emperor's cloud form and scar his human form. Gut's Demonslayer has already been shown to be able to hurt a Godhand when it defeated Slan in the troll's den.
2. The group will get more elemental weapons when they reach Elfheim and we'll get Caska's cure. If she doesn't wig out when her memories return that's another great fighter that's added to the team. Farnese is also training to be a witch so that's another powerful addition there if she can join with Schierke in spirit summoning. Also we might get more additions to team. Azan joined out of nowhere when they boarded the boats and it's possible there could be powerful allies in Elfheim.
3. This is the dark theory that has been hinted at with Guts following in the Skullknight's footsteps. And that he'll use the behelit he has in his pouch to be a apostle that opposes the Godhand. Which would give him a huge powerup when he enters his Apostle form. He'll still have his team following him but he'll be able to change forms when he wants too. And if 4. happens his followers won't freak out when he changes to a demon form since they already have experience from the recent chapters.
4. The prophecy is backwards and Guts is in fact the "hawk of light" while Griffith is the "hawk of darkness" posing as the hawk of light. Schierke did refer to Griffith before she joined up as the hawk of darkness after the tower revival arc. Don't know how far Muira will take this and if there'll be a point in the series when Guts starts to embrace the prophecy and starts to wear white armor. The joining of demon and humans can be a foreshadowing of humans being able to fight the Apostle's at some point. Especially when Griffith and the demons betray them leading to age of darkness. The legend of the Hawk's 100 man slayer Raider Captain (along with it's former female captain) is alive and is opposing Griffith. A Hawk of light who opposes the Hawk of darkness Ultimately, Guts will form a good Band of the Hawks and the humans or any Psuedo Apostle who hate Griffith will join Gut's Hawks. Which will lead to a huge war pitting Griffith's Neo Hawks against Gut's Band of the Hawks and will sorta be similar to the series Golden Age with a rebel army and a empire's army fighting each other for control of Midland
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Alright, I'm completely confused about something.
There was a new Berserk boxset being released this month, the complete series with supposedly remastered (read: better video transfer) and listed at a cheaper price than the last box set.
So everything's going nicely, till on some random forum someone mentions that it wont have any english audio. I double check it on amazon.ca, and lo and behold it doesn't have english listed as one of the available languages.
But THEN I check other sites and it says it has both english and japanese audio.
BRAWRGR!!
As the boxset's release seems to have been pushed up (possibly till jan 6), I'm left without a clue as to what is included in the boxset. Anybody got a clue as to how I can figure this out?
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Sigh why can't we just get OVAs during this long ass break? I mean really…
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That'd sure be nice, I can imagine how fantastic it'd be with modern quality animation behind it. Though truth be told we'll see a Trigun OVA before we see any more Berserk anime… which could be a very long time.
BTW, would my previous post be belong in the Help thread?
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3. This is the dark theory that has been hinted at with Guts following in the Skullknight's footsteps. And that he'll use the behelit he has in his pouch to be a apostle that opposes the Godhand. Which would give him a huge powerup when he enters his Apostle form. He'll still have his team following him but he'll be able to change forms when he wants too. And if 4. happens his followers won't freak out when he changes to a demon form since they already have experience from the recent chapters.
umm about that. Many have thought of the fact that the behelit in his pouch is for him… and if he were to become tempted... then tell me..
...who would be the sacrifice? Many would automatically think Caska. But remember that for Griffith, the ENTIRE Band of The Hawk was offered up as sacrifice.
Since Gut's party is pretty much always around him, and have become very important within his heart... they would pretty much be dinner if he were to take up the chance to be an Apostle. And that scene in itself would be worse for me than the eclipse... waaay... worse... I'd probably cry...
...and besides... about half of Gut's party is women... ughh shudders.
BUT- I don't think that would necessarily happen. If it WERE meant for Guts, even with how pitiful and low the events of causality bring Guts as he's brought before the godhand.... he won't choose the deaths of his loved ones. Unlike Griffith, Guts doesn't live for himself. Despite his desire to take revenge on griffith, he is slowly coming to realize that his dreams lie with Caska and his party. he'd clench his battered teeth and tell the godhand to fuck off. And then try to kill them..
However, another theory is.... what if that Behelit isn't meant for Guts?... but someone he's very close too? Out of Guts party, the prime suspects would be either Farnasse or Serpico (puck, schierke, and Isidro don't really fit that bill... and Caska well... maybe).
all i can say is that I cannot wait to see what happens.... in the next five or something years... sigh...
-also, Berserk OVAs would be the shit!! Seeing as how there is no feasible way to continue the old anime (seeing as how they omitted the skull knight and puck..), they would have to make a series of OVAs... like Hellsing..
..holy shit that would just be amazing!
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Miura should owe us that at least! …but NO he gets to skulk around in his crib messing with generic animu girls in Idol Master u@_@u
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umm about that. Many have thought of the fact that the behelit in his pouch is for him… and if he were to become tempted... then tell me.
...who would be the sacrifice? Many would automatically think Caska. But remember that for Griffith, the ENTIRE Band of The Hawk was offered up as sacrifice.
Since Gut's party is pretty much always around him, and have become very important within his heart... they would pretty much be dinner if he were to take up the chance to be an Apostle. And that scene in itself would be worse for me than the eclipse... waaay... worse... I'd probably cry...
...and besides... about half of Gut's party is women... ughh shudders.
BUT- I don't think that would necessarily happen. If it WERE meant for Guts, even with how pitiful and low the events of causality bring Guts as he's brought before the godhand.... he won't choose the deaths of his loved ones. Unlike Griffith, Guts doesn't live for himself. Despite his desire to take revenge on griffith, he is slowly coming to realize that his dreams lie with Caska and his party. he'd clench his battered teeth and tell the godhand to fuck off. And then try to kill them..
However, another theory is.... what if that Behelit isn't meant for Guts?... but someone he's very close too? Out of Guts party, the prime suspects would be either Farnasse or Serpico (puck, schierke, and Isidro don't really fit that bill... and Caska well... maybe).
all i can say is that I cannot wait to see what happens.... in the next five or something years... sigh...
-also, Berserk OVAs would be the shit!! Seeing as how there is no feasible way to continue the old anime (seeing as how they omitted the skull knight and puck..), they would have to make a series of OVAs... like Hellsing..
..holy shit that would just be amazing!
Well if Guts was to sacrifice someone it would be Caska or his new companions. I don't really see this happening especially since Griffith's sacrifice is the major catalyst to why Gut's hates Griffith and it'll be hypocricital for him to do that as well just to become a Apostle. If he does use the Behelit, it'll either be if there is a way to become a Apostle without sacrificing people or as a way to summon the Godhand so that he can fight them. Another possibility is the beast inside him takes over (like it did when he was travelling with Caska and attacked her after she killed the bandits) and uses the behelit to sacrifice Caska or someone else giving him his Apostle powers. Gut's in his right mind would never harm Caska but the beast within him would do it in a heartbeat.
If the Behelit belonged to anyone else in the party, it'll be Serpico. If something happened to Farnese I wouldn't put it pass him to become a Apostle so that he can face Guts. But so far the Behelit seems to be Guts.
As for a remake OVA, don't really see it happening until the series is almost over.
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i get what you're saying… but the whole "Guts becomming an apostle without sacrificing people" is impossible...
the manga has clearly shown that to become an apostle you have to take part in a ceremony of the behelit. A sacrifice of GREAT importance is needed. And thus far in the manga, that sacrifice has been loved ones
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i get what you're saying… but the whole "Guts becomming an apostle without sacrificing people" is impossible...
the manga has clearly shown that to become an apostle you have to take part in a ceremony of the behelit. A sacrifice of GREAT importance is needed. And thus far in the manga, that sacrifice has been loved ones
Yeah, as of now the only way to become a Apostle is to sacrifice people but ever since Griffith (Femto) has arrived in the real world, the manga has kept on talking about how the rules of the world are changing. Pre-Griffith the Godhand shouldn't be able to visit the real world willingly but now post-Griffith Slan visited the real world just so that see could see Guts. She also said the other Godhand members can do it as well if they chose too. So it's possible that Miura can change the rules on how a Behelit is used due to the changing world. Hell we saw Skullknight use them to make a dimensional rift sword so they could have alot more uses than what we know now.
Of course he can always just become a Psuedo-Apostle by having another apostle he befriends (Skullknight?) turning him into one like the Count did to his guard Zondark, or as in the Egg Apostle changing Mozgus ,his Priests, and the Goat-man in the cave into Psuedo-Apostles. That's one way to do it without the sacrifice method of a Apostle.
One of the reason why I want to get to Elfheim is it'll shed more light on the Berserk world mythos. Aside from Flora, there hasn't been anyone that could tell us anything. If the people of Elfheim can bring back Caska memories then they must know alot about the brand and whatnot.
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there have been some pretty bogus exceptions (forgot about mozgus and what not). But you seem to be assuming a lot due to Miura having the world change. Of course i suppose the behelit's rules changing wouldn't be out of the question. To me, the changes in the world involve the strengthening of the demon realm, so to speak (signifying the dark ages.. black plague and what not), but i'd like to think of the behelit as a sort of constant to all that… an artifact that is beyond most understanding and for one single purpose.
besides.. Guts becomming an apostle without any sort of consequence would just feel like an empty, shonen-style power up.
(yes i know Berserk is Senin as well)
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there have been some pretty bogus exceptions (forgot about mozgus and what not). But you seem to be assuming a lot due to Miura having the world change. Of course i suppose the behelit's rules changing wouldn't be out of the question. To me, the changes in the world involve the strengthening of the demon realm, so to speak (signifying the dark ages.. black plague and what not), but i'd like to think of the behelit as a sort of constant to all that… an artifact that is beyond most understanding and for one single purpose.
besides.. Guts becomming an apostle without any sort of consequence would just feel like an empty, shonen-style power up.
(yes i know Berserk is Senin as well)
Meh I originally stated I didn't see this happening since it goes against Guts character and I was given you examples on how Miura can go about doing it. I did label it as a dark theory. So there should be some reprocussions if Guts goes the sacrificial route or exqmples of how Guts would use the Behelit if there was a way to do it without sacrificing people. Of course we could just be overanalysing this amd Guts could use it just to call the Godhand to fight them like I also said as one of my examples.
And the Behelit isn't a constant theme. But seems to be evolving as Miura goes on. We had the Skullknight use it to make a dimensional sword and Psuedo Aplostle have appeared before in the series. Guts even commented on how strong Mogzus is as strong as other apostles. Hell for all we know Ganshika can be a Psuedo-Apostle as well since I don't remember him talking about sacrificing anyone to get his powers. His powers seem to have a more magical slant to his powers. So it's possible he didn't use a Behelit to become one. Flora commented on see knew what it was but in typical Miura secrecy she didn't reveal anything really other than it's used to summon the Godhand. No mention of the rules of how it works or how Psuedo Apostles are made. But the world changing has changed the rules. Since the Godhand can summon themselves now and the Behelit isn't no longer required as the sole means to summon the Godhand due to Griffith's appearance in the real world..
As for the empty power up. I would make a exception in this case. Since I've grown fond of Guts's party and would hate to see another eclipse were all the girls get raped and killed along with the guys being killed as a sacrifice for a power up. The empty power up method isn't really that bad in this case.
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in the case of the godhand summoning themselves to the world, with Slan, it was still met with certain occurances. The Quilploth (or whatever it was) was a place in the physical realm that literally bordered on the demon realm itself. Also, as far as i can remember, Guts Behelit was also needed to summon her… but she could only take shape through the manipulation of troll intestines (miura is the shit btw).
And the skull knight collecting Behelits for using as a dimensional cutting agent would make sense along with their original purpose because the egg is technically used to shift dimensions anyway. He's just applying them in a different use... and it seems he's done it before.
As for the Behelit apostle... i have no idea. I guess Miura needed an interesting way to bring a second Griffith back into the real world (since Femto is still a godhand). But I guess it would make sense for an apostle that was a monstrous behelit to change people into pseudo-apostles.
my point is that I think the Behelit alone can be manipulated for other purposes... almost like an alchemic material by breaking it's physical substance down, but it's true purpose remains the same.
As for the empty power up. I would make a exception in this case. Since I've grown fond of Guts's party and would hate to see another eclipse were all the girls get raped and killed along with the guys being killed as a sacrifice for a power up. The empty power up method isn't really that bad in this case.
i can honestly agree with not wanting Guts's party to be a sacrifice (seeing as how i've grown fond of them. and they are now necessary for us to see different dimensions of Guts's personality). I would literally cry if they got eaten and raped.
But still, no empty power-ups. Guts is already badass without one. And we're still exploring the terror of the Berserker armor and the long term effects is having on him.
but i agree with your observation about the beast inside of him taking control. that seems more likely than him becoming an apostle, or… i guess it would bring him to that level if you want to look at it that way.
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Oh god, Guts can't use the behelit -_-
1. He's a sacrifice himself, and sacrifices can't become apostles.
2. His sacrifice would have to be Caska, but she has already been sacrificed, and someone like that can't be sacrificed again -_-
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@VL7:
Oh god, Guts can't use the behelit -_-
1. He's a sacrifice himself, and sacrifices can't become apostles.
2. His sacrifice would have to be Caska, but she has already been sacrificed, and someone like that can't be sacrificed again -_-
Really when was it said you can't be a apostle if you're already been sacrificed?
That goes against Flora and Guts talk where Guts asked her about the Behelit. I don't recall her telling him you can't use it if you're a sacrifice. Only that you can't use it if it doesn't belong to you and it'll return to real owner when the time is right. She even asked him if he planned to use it on as revenge on the one who branded him and she told him basically that she hoped it didn't belong to him if he chose that path. Considering she was our only explaination on what the behelit does and she knew Guts was a sacrifice. Where exactly did you pick that up at?
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Who is the owner of Guts' Behilt again?
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Who is the owner of Guts' Behilt again?
The Count Apostle that Guts killed at the beginning of the series. Vargas (Count's mutilated physician) stole it from the Count and Guts kept it as payment for killing the Count.
Gecko135: Nope Guts Behelit had nothing to due with Slan being summoned it just reacts and you see the face change when a Godhand is near. She actually explain that the Godhand can now physically summon themselves if they chose to since Griffith was reborn. The other Godhands just chose to stay formless in the void but Slan has a thing for Guts so she appeared to him so that she could meet him. Schieke even talks about how the Qlipoth shouldn't be there and it must be a consequence of Femto being reborn. Basically since he came to the real world, the spirit world and the real world are merging.
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Really when was it said you can't be a apostle if you're already been sacrificed?
That goes against Flora and Guts talk where Guts asked her about the Behelit. I don't recall her telling him you can't use it if you're a sacrifice. Only that you can't use it if it doesn't belong to you and it'll return to real owner when the time is right. She even asked him if he planned to use it on as revenge on the one who branded him and she told him basically that she hoped it didn't belong to him if he chose that path. Considering she was our only explaination on what the behelit does and she knew Guts was a sacrifice. Where exactly did you pick that up at?
Volume 3:
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Volume 3:
Slann: I want that boy to be among us. He'd be wonderful.
Conrad: But he can't be chosen because of the law of causality.
Conrad: So he can't be among us.Flora/Guts talk was from Vol.24. He probably decided to take the Behelit in a different direction. He's basically been tightlipped about things. He even took out the talk about the IDEA of god around Vol. 12 or 13 since it revealed too much. Considering that was pre-Golden Age I wouldn't consider that set in stone. Especially since Flora has been our most recent explaination he probably retconned that out. I wouldn't put too much into any of the Berserk world mythos pre IDEA retcon.
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Yes, but on the other hand I'd expect the actual members of the God Hand to have a better understanding about how "their" stuff works than Flora.
Besides, Guts whole struggle is about going against causality, he's the sacrifice that wasn't supposed to escape, he's out of that whole stream the idea of Evil set up. No real sense in becoming one of its chosen ones, is there?
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@VL7:
Yes, but on the other hand I'd expect the actual members of the God Hand to have a better understanding about how "their" stuff works than Flora.
Besides, Guts whole struggle is about going against causality, he's the sacrifice that wasn't supposed to escape, he's out of that whole stream the idea of Evil set up. No real sense in becoming one of its chosen ones, is there?
True about the Godhand should know more but Muira is talking to us about the behelit through Flora.
As for chosen ones, Skullknight is a Apostle that opposes the Godhand. So it isn't unheard of.
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Now you can explain to me where you got the idea that Skullknight is an apostle.
Unless you made a mistake and you mean Ganishka?
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@VL7:
Now you can explain to me where you got the idea that Skullknight is an apostle.
Unless you made a mistake and you mean Ganishka?
Read the volume where The Hawks save Griffith by entering the king of Midland's castle. As they're decensending, they talk about the former king of the castle who would wear a skull armor summoned some Angels aka the Godhand. It's never comfirmed directly that the Skullknight is that king buts it implied that who he is. As for a more recent time post IDEA retcon, when the Skullknight appears in front of Slan in the troll's den she refers to him as your majesty or something like that which goes along with the earlier story.
As for Ganiska, he opposes the Godhand but I don't rember it saying if he was a Apostle.
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Ganishka is definitely an apostle.
I forget when.. but it is brought up that as one, by nature he must serve Griffith (the reason Zodd serves him). He even has inner turmoil within himself to call Griffith his lord and king… but since he's like one of the most powerful apostles, he decides to oppose the white hawk. This is due to his arrogance and greed
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Ganishka is definitely an apostle.
I forget when.. but it is brought up that as one, by nature he must serve Griffith (the reason Zodd serves him). He even has inner turmoil within himself to call Griffith his lord and king… but since he's like one of the most powerful apostles, he decides to oppose the white hawk. This is due to his arrogance and greed
Well for the inner turmoil part that was when Griffith and Ganiska first met when the Giant's lifted the roof and Griffith used wind to stop his lightning form. When he first saw him he thought he should serve under him due to his aura. Even Guts felt the same way when he first saw Griffith after the Tower Revival arc he said for a moment he even forgot about his revenge.
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yeah i remember that (forgot about guts's part though)… but Ganishka is definitely an apostle.
In fact.. when he vows to destroy Griffith, he implements the use of an "artificial behelit" so he can "transcend the apostles"
which is why he's in the state he is now
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yeah i remember that (forgot about guts's part though)… but Ganishka is definitely an apostle.
In fact.. when he vows to destroy Griffith, he implements the use of an "artificial behelit" so he can "transcend the apostles"
which is why he's in the state he is now
Super Saiyan Apostle 2
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lol. If yah wanna call it that.
The artificial Behelit was just a Hyperbolic time chamber..
…too bad you come out 5 times as ugly and stupid as a brick
"Who am I"
fuck yeah Miura.
Now do us all a favor and stop playing with your digital idols, break out that india ink and get cracking you hermit!! (take your time though.. lol)
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Even if he gets cracking now we won't get anything like 3-4 months from now since he like to do like 3-4 chapters per break.
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Read the volume where The Hawks save Griffith by entering the king of Midland's castle. As they're decensending, they talk about the former king of the castle who would wear a skull armor summoned some Angels aka the Godhand. It's never comfirmed directly that the Skullknight is that king buts it implied that who he is. As for a more recent time post IDEA retcon, when the Skullknight appears in front of Slan in the troll's den she refers to him as your majesty or something like that which goes along with the earlier story.
Yes, I believe Skull Knight is indeed Gaiseric, but can you try to find a link of the actual conversation they had when descending the stairs. Or at least the chapter number so i can look it up. Cause, I think it was implied that the Skull Knight is actually more along the lines of an escaped sacrifice, like Guts.
That would also explain why he wants to kill Void, because he could be the one that branded him -_-
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@VL7:
Yes, I believe Skull Knight is indeed Gaiseric, but can you try to find a link of the actual conversation they had when descending the stairs. Or at least the chapter number so i can look it up. Cause, I think it was implied that the Skull Knight is actually more along the lines of an escaped sacrifice, like Guts.
That would also explain why he wants to kill Void, because he could be the one that branded him -_-
It's in volume 10, chapter titled Thousand Year Fifedom. No chapter # since it in a volume. No mention of Apostle or anything like that. As they're descending the princess talks about how Midland got it's name. 1,000 years ago there was a constant war with many dying. A man appeared named "Supreme King Gasiseric" He was known as a demon king or skull king for wearing a helmet shaped as a skull. at that moment it has Guts thinking of the Skullknight. Supposably the King became corrupted and God sent 4 Angels (Godhand) to punish him. After that the city disappeared (Sacrifice). After that the territories were split and that castle was known as Midland. That really all it said.
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To me it sounds like Gaiseric and his city we're the sacrifice, rather than Gaiseric sacrificing his city, since the 4 angels came to punish him, not give him more power.
Especially since his kingdom obvioulsy fell apart after that.
Also, if he were an apostle, Guts brand would hurt and start to bleed near him which isn't the case.
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Well he's obviously some kinda demon since he shouldn't be alive if he was there 1,000 years ago and is a walking skeleton.
The parts in parenthesis I added because of what we know now. When the princess was telling the story she refered to the Godhand as angel's sent by god to punish the decendant king. We know now that the Godhand aren't angels but demons who come down to appoint a Apostle when summoned with the city being the sacrifice. They don't punish evil people but are Evil themselves. So the story paints the Godhand as the good guys when they're nothing but.
Yeah Guts Brand not burning is weird. But the skullknight is obviously not human. And he does possess power to rival the Apostles and has a big knowledge of behelits and the Godhand. So for right now Miura has it going that he is a Apostle that sacrificied the city. Of course there could always be the twist that Gaiseric was framed by someone else who wanted the throne and sacrificed the city. And Skullknight was branded and escaped. But that wouldn't explain why he is a skeleton that is alive 1,000 years later.