Cant wait to see what new loli is going to join Guts' party :)
I dont really have any hopes that Miura can make this series interesting again, but maybe one year of rest made him rethink things.
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A ton. Couple hundred chapters minimum if there's any sort of satisfying conclusion to even a majority of the stuff already in play. Depends on if any of the godhand survive or if Griffith is the only one that gets killed and… stuff. ANother 10 years minimum.
And not that much time was spent on the pirates... that was largely to showcase the new world order withotu having to deal with the full blown worldwide reprecussions.
Didn't Miura say Berserk was about 70% done already? It could be that Miura has basically figured out what's left in the story and now just has to draw it. (look I'm being optimistic alright)
Either way, a semi-consistent release schedule is pretty amazing news, I'm excited.
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We're so close to advancing the Casca plot, guys.
SO CLOSE.
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I wonder how much story Berserk has left. I feel that a lot of time was wasted on those annoying pirates. That's great because NF is an absolute mess.
One of the worst villain groups in Manga history, they make the Pilaf Gang look like Genei Ryodan.
@Cyan:
We're so close to advancing the Casca plot, guys.
SO CLOSE.
I have the feeling once Casca returns to normal she will become another Sakura(fall in love with the one that destroyed her life).
Here now its confirmed Berserk returns.
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@Mr.:
So, about 4 more chapters (okay, okay, "episodes") for this year, then another 6+ month break? Excuse me while I don't rush out and read each chapter the moment they are translated.
That's how its worked the last several years. Apparently now its going to go straight monthly.
@Tijnn.:
Didn't Miura say Berserk was about 70% done already? It could be that Miura has basically figured out what's left in the story and now just has to draw it. (look I'm being optimistic alright)
Even if he was completely accurate about it being at that point, he's been doing the series since 1990 (so 25 years) and is currently at 337 chapters. Either way, that's still more than 100 chapters and about 10 years to go.
Around chapter 500 maybe?
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Holy Cow, my dreams come true. I hope this was the last hiatus of this extent.
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Holy Cow, my dreams come true. I hope this was the last hiatus of this extent.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased that more are on the way. But these past 2 years have made me very cynical in regards to being optimistic on a steady release.
Well, that and I'm just not as into the series as I used to be.
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@Mr.:
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased that more are on the way. But these past 2 years have made me very cynical in regards to being optimistic on a steady release.
Well, that and I'm just not as into the series as I used to be.
You realize he did a completely seperate other series in addition to Berserk last year, right?
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I started reading berserk and now I'm in chapter 40, for now I can say I'm enjoying gatts and Griffith story more than the evil demons spirit thingy chapters.
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I started reading berserk and now I'm in chapter 40, for now I can say I'm enjoying gatts and Griffith story more than the evil demons spirit thingy chapters.
Those demon stuff stories at begin were Dark Swordsman arc…kind off prequel to whole story, its not even necessary to read them. The Golden Age can be said to be start of Berserk story (the medieval mercenary stuff), just enjoy the ride and don't rush it.
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Those demon stuff stories at begin were Dark Swordsman arc…kind off prequel to whole story, its not even necessary to read them. The Golden Age can be said to be start of Berserk story (the medieval mercenary stuff), just enjoy the ride and don't rush it.
I don't know I like the arc very much that it makes me read more :D
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Tits not even necessary to read them.
Uhm. Yes. It is. Some of the stuff that happened there has come up again since, (like Puck and the behelt and how the summoning works and even the specific demon on the first page of the story being significant in the flashback) and probably will be important again before its all done.
Yes, its when the author was still a bit weaker in the storytelling and art, and he then jumps into a 10 volume flashback thats the real meat and character work of the story, so it might have worked better as volumes 11-13 instead of 1-3… but just skipping it outright and entirely doesn't really work. It's not a prequel. Its what happens immediately after the Golden Age arc, the stuff the anime never got to.
Also, having the dark prologue that shows what Guts and Griffith becomes puts a certain shadow over the flashback so you constantly wonder how it got to that point.
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Uhm. Yes. It is. Some of the stuff that happened there has come up again since, (like Puck and the behelt and how the summoning works and even the specific demon on the first page of the story being significant in the flashback) and probably will be important again before its all done.
I think its debatable, while Dark Swordsman is BEGIN of the story and Golden Age is technically 'flashback' also it introduces Guts and his dark quest of vengeance. Also introduces characters with Puck, count and his behelit and Angels of darkness,specially his relation with Griffith.
But I still think its quite possible to skip it, since for many beginners its quite difficult to stomach specially how brutally gritty its from get go, it sets very dark tone right at the bat. But I think its OK to start with Golden Age, though I agree that despite rough storytelling of first arc it has some critical story elements that will be very important later into story but I think it also kinda spoils Griffith's fate, though it gives sort of 'impending doom' to whole Golden Age witch I personally enjoyed but I think Griffiths betrayal might still be even bigger shock without reading first arc.
I simply have seen quite a few people turn away from Berserk manga because its brutal start and how it might give wrong idea about series.
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Well uhm… its a brutal series.
If you're offput by the brutality of the start, then you're going to have a problem with the violence, murder, rape and torture later anyway. It doesn't start having less of that in the Golden Age.
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There's that really weird bit that opens the series where Gutts is have sex with the demon that at Corkus, despite the Golden Age showing that that…is not something Gutts does.
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It's still hilarious that that's how Berserk opens up.
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My problem with pre-golden age stuff is more that Guts was really not a likable protagonist back then. It wasn't necessarily more dark, nut it did feel like it had less humanity
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it did feel like it had less humanity
And that was the whole point of pre Golden Age since it did serve as a build up to this
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[/hide]That panel was so damn powerful it just makes you think "damn, you don't make that kind of face when you're like the protagonist, so he must've been through hell" and then right after that you get to the story of his life up to that point and you actually see how much shit he had to endure.
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Chapter 338 is out.
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Yeah I think Rickert's time is up in Falconia… too many bigshots are butthurt on how he treated Griffith. If word of his rejection reaches commoners it can get really ugly. Raksash is a bit of enigma for me, I think he is apostle and he seem to be loyal to Griffith but I really can't tell what he is really after for.
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Wasn't Raksas's deal that he wanted to be the one to assassinate Griffith himself one day but otherwise would serve him to make sure Griffith would be alive til then?
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Yes. This is exactly why Rakshas is going after the biggest threat to Lord Griffith's rule in Falconia, Rickert the Manslapper.
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Oh yeah lol. I guess I was too focused on his intro than the context in this chapter. Could still be linked to it in some way but whoops
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Rickert's obviously in danger of exposing Griffith and the apostles. What more reason does E
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That cat face was so HxH i found it kinda funny, the girls talking was a bit fillerish but I guess its due to the long hiatus the manga has had.
Nice save by Silas at the end.
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It's so refreshing to see this series again.
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Attack on Titan, D.Gray-Man, Berserk…Only HunterXHunter is still yet to come back
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So we're eventually going to see Gutts and pals going to rescue all the side characters from Falconia once Griffith goes full antichrist, right?
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@Cyan:
So we're eventually going to see Gutts and pals going to rescue all the side characters from Falconia once Griffith goes full antichrist, right?
Not before Rickert slaps Void too
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@Cyan:
So we're eventually going to see Gutts and pals going to rescue all the side characters from Falconia once Griffith goes full antichrist, right?
They're not going to Fairy Island no more?
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They'll eventually get to Fishman Island.
THey've only been headed there for like, 6 or 7 years in real time at this point.
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They'll eventually get to Fishman Island.
Hopefully in this lifetime never know when a massive heart attack or a sudden traffic accident will kill you.
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Not cool. Why would you even joke about that?
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Yeah I think Rickert's time is up in Falconia… too many bigshots are butthurt on how he treated Griffith. If word of his rejection reaches commoners it can get really ugly. Raksash is a bit of enigma for me, I think he is apostle and he seem to be loyal to Griffith but I really can't tell what he is really after for.
Alternate theory. Rakshas is Skull Knight in disguise, or related in some way. The horns on his mask are the SK's horns inverted. Plus, he hitched a ride on Zodd's wing on the way to Ganishka; SK mysteriously appeared suddenly a scene later, ready to strike Griffith. They may not be the same person, and the theory is probably baloney, but I just wouldn't put it past Miura to have such a visual similarity.
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Not cool. Why would you even joke about that?
Just being realistic.
I mean we all know this can end one of three ways
1. Somehow Miura finishes the series and we (those of us who are lucky enough to still be around) get to read it all.
2. Miura unexpectedly passes away and the series doesn't get finished or continues down a route different than Miura envisioned.
3. Series somehow gets cancelled.I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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Just being realistic.
I mean we all know this can end one of three ways
1. Somehow Miura finishes the series and we (those of us who are lucky enough to still be around) get to read it all.
2. Miura unexpectedly passes away and the series doesn't get finished or continues down a route different than Miura envisioned.
3. Series somehow gets cancelled.Are you okay? D-do you need a hug?
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Just being realistic.
I mean we all know this can end one of three ways
1. Somehow Miura finishes the series and we (those of us who are lucky enough to still be around) get to read it all.
2. Miura unexpectedly passes away and the series doesn't get finished or continues down a route different than Miura envisioned.
3. Series somehow gets cancelled.The guy is only in his 40's and the series probably has about 10 years to go if it can actually maintain its new monthly format.
(If ts truly at about the 70% he's estimated, then both the number of years put in so far and the chapter count would call for about another 100 chapters. If he can manage 10 a year then… and if he goes a bit over that for the finale no one will mind. 50 volumes total would be about right.)
Again, why would you even joke about that?
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The guy is only in his 40's and the series probably has about 10 years to go if it can actually maintain its new monthly format.
(If ts truly at about the 70% he's estimated, then both the number of years put in so far and the chapter count would call for about another 100 chapters. If he can manage 10 a year then… and if he goes a bit over that for the finale no one will mind. 50 volumes total would be about right.)
Again, why would you even joke about that?
Anxiety mixed in with the realistic and somewhat fatalistic outlook on life I suppose.
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The series getting cancelled is realistic? Short of medical problems, I definitely don't see that. The rest is pretty much he either finishes it or dies? Well, yeah. That could certainly happen just as it's possible Oda could pass away before One Piece finishes.The series getting cancelled is realistic? Short of medical problems, I definitely don't see that. The rest is pretty much he either finishes it or dies? Well, yeah. That could certainly happen just as it's possible Oda could pass away before One Piece finishes.
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I have no clue what's been going on in the Berserk Manga any more…vague memories of a giant fight between Griffith and the other army. Griffith wins. They create Falconia, and random slow stuff has been occurring there. On Guts' side, they've been going to fairy island or something for like 10 years, made a pit stop in some mermaid island, killed a monster there, and continued...
I have no clue where this manga is headed or if we'll even see any real plot progression at the rate it comes out. Quite sad
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I have no clue what's been going on in the Berserk Manga any more…vague memories of a giant fight between Griffith and the other army. Griffith wins. They create Falconia, and random slow stuff has been occurring there. On Guts' side, they've been going to fairy island or something for like 10 years, made a pit stop in some mermaid island, killed a monster there, and continued...
I have no clue where this manga is headed or if we'll even see any real plot progression at the rate it comes out. Quite sad
Perhaps if its all vague and forgotten, you should give it a re-read? We also had that three chapter flashback with younger Guts in there.
Anyway, Grififth merging the worlds was a MAJOR push forward in plot which we've only seen the start of. It puts the god hand in the mortal realm, among other things, so accidentally or intentionally, he may have set into motion the method for Guts to be able to actually deal with the bastards.
Also, once Guts and co reach fairy island, it's quite likely Caska will get hr sanity back at long last, and other sorts of crazy powerups, and with the party complete they can start heading into something resembling the endgame. (Which will take a few years, yes.) Of course, Im sure fairy island is going to be in a terrible state when they get there, so…
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For how dramatic and anti-climactic it may be, i really don't want for Caska to regain her old self. She is a major reason for Guts to avenge her against Griffith, and if she were to come back, then the pay off for defating Griffith/Femto wouldn't be as great. Even if she were to regain her old self after that i'm not sure if i would like it, it would mean that she would remember what Griff/Femto did to her, and living with that may be even worse than what she is now
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So, the death of all the other hawks, the raping, the branding, the murder of their child, and the years of continuing to try to kill them AREN'T still reasons for needing revenge?
Sure, Caska becoming sane again, amidst a protected paradise, might get them to settle down and be happy for a little while… but after all the shit they've been through, that ain't gonna last. Guts hasn't powered up his demonic weaponry to NOT get revenge at this point.
And no, its NOT better to be a mentally retarded cripple for life than it is to remember being raped.
Yeah, the Eclipse was awful, but her, Guts, and Rickerts all survived. They can all seek justice.
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Guts is going to reach Elf Island and that'll lead directly to a timeskip to the beginning of the Age of Darkness. And then we'll get numerous Elf Island flashbacks of what happened there throughout the rest of the series.
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So, the death of all the other hawks, the raping, the branding, the murder of their child, and the years of continuing to try to kill them AREN'T still reasons for needing revenge?
Sure, Caska becoming sane again, amidst a protected paradise, might get them to settle down and be happy for a little while… but after all the shit they've been through, that ain't gonna last. Guts hasn't powered up his demonic weaponry to NOT get revenge at this point.
And no, its NOT better to be a mentally retarded cripple for life than it is to remember being raped.
Yeah, the Eclipse was awful, but her, Guts, and Rickerts all survived. They can all seek justice.
It sounds too much of a disney movie where the Princess gets saved, leaves the past behind and they live happily ever after free from the baddies schemes. I mean out of the two possibilities it can be the happiest route for her, but it wouldn't be Berserk if she gets the kiss/elf magic to wake up and live the rest of her days with the prince/Guts.
Also Guts surely has every reason to get revenge, but at the same time to take away one (and also one of the biggest given him witnessing what she became after that) of the reasons, would weaken the final battle too much
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What on earth makes you think they'd live happily ever after for more than a couple weeks with her sanity restored?
Even if they get to paradise the place will be invaded by demons a month later or something.
Sane Caska doesn't mean happy ending automatically…. and she should be allowed to get her revenge too. If Muira was never going to let her get better, he may as well have just killed her 20 years ago. ONE bit of light in an overwhelming ammount of darkness isn't a bad thing. Guts deserves a couple days of not-suffering somewhere along the way.
Also a chance she might be really pissed at Guts for making her remember everything and she actually is happier being a child.
But yeah, all that said, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of timeskip given that there's two children in the party currently, plus Rickerts.
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Yeah. Caska regaining her memories is needed to happen, but it's not going to be a happy-feel event. Guts spent years being an absolute wreck after the events of the Eclipse while still being absolutely haunted by it. It's obviously going to affect Caska as well.
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The manga has been quite lighter than usual ever since the worlds merged. What with the wacky pirates, happy mermaids, a child of light guiding Guts when in his berserker state, the comedic relief characters being even more comedic relief and a pretty noticeable decrease in gratuitous rape since the troll cavern. Hell, even Guts seems more human than ever before.
With that in mind, and being perfectly aware that shit will happen again sooner or later (apostles invading the fairy land, Griffith losing his shit a second time, another eclipse. . .), that Caska regaining her sanity will probably be painful and bring a lot of turmoil and conflict. . .why can't this have a semi-happy resolution? What if Caska remembers all the shit, is about to lose it again, but sees that Guts has changed, is more human, more calm, more mature, and that makes her think it's, maybe, not gonna be that bad?
And even the final conflict, I guess everyone sees Guts pretty dead at the end of the manga. . .well, it could have a happy ending. Again, all this seeing as how things aren't as grim as a couple of years back, at least for now. Maybe it's the calm before the storm and we'll go back to medieval tortures, the pest, prostitutes with aids, uber gore, trolls raping little girls and all that shit very soon, but I have this feeling that Miura wants to go in another, more mature direction*.
- Translator's note: more mature means precisely not to abuse gore and rape like chocolate bars and find other means to convey interesting ideas…
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I plan on giving this series a complete re-read from Volume 1 in the relatively near future but can anyone give me a quick rundown on everything that has to/should be addressed before this series can have a solid conclusion? IIRC Miura said it's 70% done already
