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      I think we need to stop over analyzing what Oda has said,it's getting us no where and derailing the thread. This isn't a. "Try to find the hidden meanings in what Oda said in a interview" topic.

      Yes, and it goes to say that people can squeeze any character into what Oda said… there no point to arguing over this.

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        People can squeeze any character they want to believe they could be a nakama. Already we have people saying Sabo will be the next crewmate.

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          no point getting mad about it. this argument has been going on since he said it, it just stops for a week or two then comes back.

          it won't stop and you can't stop it until we reach the new world. there isn't much to go on these days. Seems a lot of people hate hancock so they do wahtever they can to not discuss her and she is the one with the most going for her and most to discuss about.

          so we are stuck with a boring jimbei that anything you say about him is purely speculation with no backing, and some random in right field perona. we didnt' get much this chapter to discuss besides possible conneciton to hancock, but since so many dislike talking about her they are ignoring it.

          so people are going back to oda's boss comment and putting in their opinions on what he meant and if it was done yet or not

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            no point getting mad about it. this argument has been going on since he said it, it just stops for a week or two then comes back.

            it won't stop and you can't stop it until we reach the new world. there isn't much to go on these days. Seems a lot of people hate hancock so they do wahtever they can to not discuss her and she is the one with the most going for her and most to discuss about.

            so we are stuck with a boring jimbei that anything you say about him is purely speculation with no backing, and some random in right field perona. we didnt' get much this chapter to discuss besides possible conneciton to hancock, but since so many dislike talking about her they are ignoring it.

            so people are going back to oda's boss comment and putting in their opinions on what he meant and if it was done yet or not

            Oda picked a real good time to pause the current story for a flashback. We'll be grasping at straws for at least two more weeks..

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              Seems a lot of people hate hancock so they do wahtever they can to not discuss her and she is the one with the most going for her and most to discuss about.

              Nope. I hate her, and I discuss her. I'd say she's the one with the highest fan base. That's why you get so many idiots coming in and saying 'Hancock for next Nakama' without giving any reason or opinion. She's definitely the most discussed, as you have people giving tons of reasons against her and then you have people for her. The most going for her? I disagree. She's actually the candidate with the most holding her back from joining…

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                Nope. I hate her, and I discuss her. I'd say she's the one with the highest fan base. That's why you get so many idiots coming in and saying 'Hancock for next Nakama' without giving any reason or opinion. She's definitely the most discussed, as you have people giving tons of reasons against her and then you have people for her. The most going for her? I disagree. She's actually the candidate with the most holding her back from joining…

                Perona joining with derail the entire plot that's already been trying to get to fishman island for years, because Oda would have to create an entire arc dealing with her character, like he has done for all the others characters. Robin got away with this because she had pieces of it fed to us throughout the story, and Hancock has gotten a similar treatment. Perona doesn't have that.

                And the things that are holding Hancock back are capable of being resolved imo.

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                  Perona joining with derail the entire plot that's already been trying to get to fishman island for years, because Oda would have to create an entire arc dealing with her character, like he has done for all the others characters. Robin got away with this because she had pieces of it fed to us throughout the story, and Hancock has gotten a similar treatment. Perona doesn't have that.

                  And the things that are holding Hancock back are capable of being resolved imo.

                  Well, in this post I explored Hancock, and how she would hold off the current storyline for too long if Oda didn't provide a major and quick plot twist.
                  http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1614233&postcount=6712

                  And why can't Perona's back story be in Fishman Island arc or any future arc?

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                    Nope. I hate her, and I discuss her. I'd say she's the one with the highest fan base. That's why you get so many idiots coming in and saying 'Hancock for next Nakama' without giving any reason or opinion. She's definitely the most discussed, as you have people giving tons of reasons against her and then you have people for her. The most going for her? I disagree. She's actually the candidate with the most holding her back from joining…

                    when i say most going for her i'm talking in the sense of a pro/con list. she has a ton of pro's for her joining. she also has a HUGE con, her island, but i never said she didn't have things against her.

                    but lets look at this. We actually went backwards in the grand line to Amazon Lily as all said would NEVER EVER EVER happen. So we now have the main character on Hancocks island and they both like each other so that isn't holding the joining back. She has a well flushed out and unique personality and querks/gags or whatever you want to call them. She is a pirate already and strong. In a flashback we are getting some tenryuubito and COULD have a connection to Hancock in some way, or hell as little a connection as Franky and Robin had. Most people want a new crewmate, most wanted a new female. yes most wanted though it to be a fishman/mermaid species of some sort though. She has a sad past that seems to be a strawhat trait, and it is confirmed no speculation and also it is PERSONAL sad past.

                    the only thing really against her that there is, is her island, and since we are BACK at her island that issue CAN/COULD be resolved. We are just in the waiting game and speculating on HOW it will get resolved, cause most of us beleive it will be

                    as i've predicted we have a AL defend arc dealing with Tenryuubito/Slavery/WG/Warlord themes going on. Iva-san meets Sanji on his way back to kamabaka island and informs him of Luffy's location. Sanji gets back to ship/rayleigh like all other SH's in time and they head ot AL and epic spread of them arriving at point in AL defend arc that looks like total doom and they turn it around. best way out i see

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                      Well, in this post I explored Hancock, and how she would hold off the current storyline for too long if Oda didn't provide a major and quick plot twist.
                      http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1614233&postcount=6712

                      And why can't Perona's back story be in Fishman Island arc or any future arc?

                      Your 1st point is valid, but I can't really say anything that isn't wild speculation. (Like how, if the Straw Hats reunite in Chapter 600, that leaves 15 chapters for Hancock's story to be explored if the current flashback ends at 585) again..this is simply my own fan speculation…

                      For your second point, Perona has shown to have NO ties to Fishman Island, or any future event or place, she's more of a blank slate then Jinbei when it comes to anything post Thriller Bark. She's not like Robin, who we were spoon fed tidbits about her past since she joined. Having Perona on the ship, but for no reason other then "She was with Zoro." is weak, and having her past explored in Fishman Island, in my opinion, would bascially be kicking Jinbei and any potenital fishman characters right in the sack.

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                        Your 1st point is valid, but I can't really say anything that isn't wild speculation. (Like how, if the Straw Hats reunite in Chapter 600, that leaves 15 chapters for Hancock's story to be explored if the current flashback ends at 585) again..this is simply my own fan speculation…

                        For your second point, Perona has shown to have NO ties to Fishman Island, or any future event or place, she's more of a blank slate then Jinbei when it comes to anything post Thriller Bark. She's not like Robin, who we were spoon fed tidbits about her past since she joined. Having Perona on the ship, but for no reason other then "She was with Zoro." is weak, and having her past explored in Fishman Island, in my opinion, would bascially be kicking Jinbei and any potenital fishman characters right in the sack.

                        I didn't say she did have any ties. We don't know what will go down on Fishman Island, anything could happen apart from the obvious things that we can guess like the attack now that Whitebeard is dead, or the tenryubito start mass enslaving or something. There could be any other plot device that could link to Perona in there.
                        It doesn't have to be FI either, it could be a future arc where it happens, Perona could become a traveling companion for a while and her back story could come later. She's not like Hancock where something immediate is holding her back. Oda doesn't have to throw the story way off to get her in.

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                          I didn't say she did have any ties. We don't know what will go down on Fishman Island, anything could happen apart from the obvious things that we can guess like the attack now that Whitebeard is dead, or the tenryubito start mass enslaving or something. There could be any other plot device that could link to Perona in there.
                          It doesn't have to be FI either, it could be a future arc where it happens, Perona could become a traveling companion for a while and her back story could come later. She's not like Hancock where something immediate is holding her back. Oda doesn't have to throw the story way off to get her in.

                          If there had been anything that connected Perona to Fishman Island or any future event, like the world nobles or something in the new world. Then Oda would of dropped it during Thriller Bark, like I said before with Robin and also with Nami, when she we learned that she wanted to buy her village and when she saw the picture of Arlong. These were hints at things that were to come, and Perona has gotten NONE of this, she has no connections to anything except Moria. We can say that this might happen, but it's speculating on things that have no hints from the manga.

                          If she had, I'd be more supportive of her, but for now, she's just looks like to be a character that Oda wants to use again.

                          Hancock however, has been a present force in the story ever since the Straw Hats were seperated. I'm willing to go far enough to say that ever since Vivi left, and aside from Nami and Robin. Boa Hancock is the only other female character who's had this much spotlight for this long in the ENTIRE manga. We've been given information about her past, there have been hints dropped that her title may be in question, and Nyon has said that her love sickness is still there and we are at a current point in the story were she has her best (and only) chance to join the crew. It all hinges on where the story goes after the flashback ends. And it has a good chance to focus on Amazon Lily as much as it will just have Luffy leave and never look back.

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                          I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

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                            Why is AGOG lecturing us on grammer when he is completely unable to string a coherent, well-written sentence together?

                            Simple, He thinks hes always right.

                            Wich clearly isnt true coz his speculations of his ''plot'' theory Sucked total ass coz Luffy is on AL.

                            So there goes his ''plot'' theory.

                            AGOG whats about returning to AL that has to do with the Plot? Cant they just move on? i mean there is nothing left on Amazon Lilly:ninja:.

                            He made super dupper long essays about that.

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                              I didn't say she did have any ties. We don't know what will go down on Fishman Island, anything could happen apart from the obvious things that we can guess like the attack now that Whitebeard is dead, or the tenryubito start mass enslaving or something. There could be any other plot device that could link to Perona in there.
                              It doesn't have to be FI either, it could be a future arc where it happens, Perona could become a traveling companion for a while and her back story could come later. She's not like Hancock where something immediate is holding her back. Oda doesn't have to throw the story way off to get her in.

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                                It's already happening m8.🆒

                                how is the story being thrown way off by this? the only thing that did that so far was Kuma pawing them across teh world.

                                going to amazon lily is part of the story. now if they were moving forward and got somewhere and noticed hey there was this "key" on arabasta that only opens this door, so we head backwards to get that. That is bad sotry and going backwards.

                                this is totally fitting into a story telling situation. and island NEAR and SAFE where he was fighting he rest and what not. how is that doing anything wrong.

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                                  how is the story being thrown way off by this? the only thing that did that so far was Kuma pawing them across teh world.

                                  going to amazon lily is part of the story. now if they were moving forward and got somewhere and noticed hey there was this "key" on arabasta that only opens this door, so we head backwards to get that. That is bad sotry and going backwards.

                                  this is totally fitting into a story telling situation. and island NEAR and SAFE where he was fighting he rest and what not. how is that doing anything wrong.

                                  If it was so obvious. Than why the heck were there soooooo many ppl( and also guys who thinks they are uber PRO (AGOG)) saying that it would never happen.

                                  But hes at AL not for healing but for something else. He could heal just fine in the submarine. It would take the marines a few good weeks before they hunt pirates again I think.

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                                    I didn't say she did have any ties. We don't know what will go down on Fishman Island, anything could happen apart from the obvious things that we can guess like the attack now that Whitebeard is dead, or the tenryubito start mass enslaving or something. There could be any other plot device that could link to Perona in there.
                                    It doesn't have to be FI either, it could be a future arc where it happens, Perona could become a traveling companion for a while and her back story could come later. She's not like Hancock where something immediate is holding her back. Oda doesn't have to throw the story way off to get her in.

                                    the only problem is she haven't shown any sign of having a hidden agenda, she already spill most of her interests when she ditched Moria

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                                      If there had been anything that connected Perona to Fishman Island or any future event, like the world nobles or something in the new world. Then Oda would of dropped it during Thriller Bark, like I said before with Robin and also with Nami, when she we learned that she wanted to buy her village and when she saw the picture of Arlong. These were hints at things that were to come, and Perona has gotten NONE of this, she has no connections to anything except Moria. We can say that this might happen, but it's speculating on things that have no hints from the manga.

                                      But this is just what you want. Oda didn't have to drop anything. Robin and Nami were traveling companions if not full time crew members back then. Perona was just a simple enemy on Thriller Bark, now we know that Oda wants her to play some part in the future plot. If you look at the situation with Perona properly, she has a straight path on to the Sunny with nothing holding her back unlike Hancock.

                                      If she had, I'd be more supportive of her, but for now, she's just looks like to be a character that Oda wants to use again.

                                      Exactly. He wants to use her again. She has nowhere to go. She will get to SA with Zoro. Her belongings are on the Sunny. Her character fits the Strawhats. She can fulfill a job on the ship.

                                      Hancock however, has been a present force in the story ever since the Straw Hats were seperated. I'm willing to go far enough to say that ever since Vivi left, and aside from Nami and Robin. Boa Hancock is the only other female character who's had this much spotlight for this long in the ENTIRE manga. We've been given information about her past, there have been hints dropped that her title may be in question, and Nyon has said that her love sickness is still there and we are at a current point in the story were she has her best (and only) chance to join the crew. It all hinges on where the story goes after the flashback ends. And it has a good chance to focus on Amazon Lily as much as it will just have Luffy leave and never look back.

                                      She has various things holding her back and her personality is one-sided. That's all I see from her.

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                                        Exactly. He wants to use her again. She has nowhere to go. She will get to SA with Zoro. Her belongings are on the Sunny. Her character fits the Strawhats. She can fulfill a job on the ship.

                                        She has various things holding her back and her personality is one-sided. That's all I see from her.

                                        use a character again applied to quite a bit of characters in this arc, her only different is she was with Zoro, and the other was with Luffy and they already serve their purpose, so she'll serve her purpose with Zoro soon enough and it doesn't necessary mean joining the crew

                                        and regarding her stuff on Sunny, did she have anything important on Sunny that worth the risking of meeting the entire SH?

                                        does she even have a purpose for joining aside from Robin's rip off purpose, which was no home to return to

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                                          She has various things holding her back and her personality is one-sided. That's all I see from her.

                                          She can be sweet or a total Biatch. so actually she has more personality's than Perona. Since u see that as a Con. Peronawill never join i am afraid. Let's ask Master Yoda.

                                          I sence disturbance, She will not join, afraid I am.

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                                            Both Nami and Robin were considered nakama by the crew right when they joined. But both of them left and rejoined later.

                                            Hancocks personality is not one sided. She can be selfish, spoiled, arrogant, and she can also be kind, sensitive and caring. That's not a one sided personality. A one sided personality is what Perona and Jinbei are, character who only keep doing the same thing. And like I said before, the various things holding her back are in a postion to be resolved.

                                            And I'd like to hear what postion Perona could fill on the crew..

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                                              not to mention nyon clearly says that hancock has been hiding behind this face she made and not showing her true feelings ever

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                                                not to mention nyon clearly says that hancock has been hiding behind this face she made and not showing her true feelings ever

                                                SO. . . ?

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                                                  And I'd like to hear what postion Perona could fill on the crew..

                                                  ghost scouting apparently, and spoil all the fun for Luffy

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                                                  SO. . . ?

                                                  i think that was a supporting statement toward her not having a one-sided personality if im not wrong

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                                                    use a character again applied to quite a bit of characters in this arc, her only different is she was with Zoro, and the other was with Luffy and they already serve their purpose, so she'll serve her purpose with Zoro soon enough and it doesn't necessary mean joining the crew

                                                    We know her purpose. To get Zoro off that Island. Why didn't Oda bring a new character like he did all the other Straw Hats to help Zoro? We all know she has more importance to the story. I just like her character, believe it fits with the Straw Hats and Oda can place her on that ship with no problems at all if he wanted to.

                                                    and regarding her stuff on Sunny, did she have anything important on Sunny that worth the risking of meeting the entire SH?

                                                    All her clothes and treasure.

                                                    does she even have a purpose for joining aside from Robin's rip off purpose, which was no home to return to

                                                    Robin's purpose was to find Nakama to protect her. Oda still has room to explore Perona's hopes and dreams without throwing off the whole storyline.

                                                    if Hancock is one-sided, then Perona is negative one-sided

                                                    I only say that Hancock is one sided because she treats everyone like dirt apart from Luffy. You need a lot of development and room to make her someone that the Strawhats will actually like.

                                                    She can be sweet or a total Biatch. so actually she has more personality's than Perona. Since u see that as a Con. Peronawill never join i am afraid. Let's ask Master Yoda.
                                                    I sence disturbance, She will not join, afraid I am.

                                                    There you have it:ninja:

                                                    Please don't say stupid things like this. I actually want to have a proper debate with someone

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                                                      The only pure solid and unrefutable fact that the Perona supports have, is that she is on the island with Zoro, she has not had ANYTHING ELSE, that would give us readers a hint that there any more depth to her character. People have taken her meeting Zoro again completely out of context and are grasping for straws where there is none.

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                                                        We know her purpose. To get Zoro off that Island. Why didn't Oda bring a new character like he did all the other Straw Hats to help Zoro?

                                                        just like the purpose of Croc, Buggy, Mr.2, and Mr.3, so for all we know, that could be her only purpose and when it's over and done, they go their separate way, and if you want to talk about new characters, why didn't Oda just introduce a bunch of new characters in Impel Down instead of reusing Arabasta characters? Cause there's quite a few people who have conflict with and respect for WB beside Crocodile.

                                                        We all know she has more importance to the story. I just like her character, believe it fits with the Straw Hats and Oda can place her on that ship with no problems at all if he wanted to.

                                                        well this is just matter of opinion, which i think otherwise, but it's irrelevance because you cant convince opinions. The same can be said for any other candidate regarding Oda adapting a character personality to fit the SH.

                                                        All her clothes and treasure.

                                                        yea, that's worth meeting an enemies crew, she's not Nami who valuable those stuff more than life

                                                        Robin's purpose was to find Nakama to protect her. Oda still has room to explore Perona's hopes and dreams without throwing off the whole storyline.

                                                        that was her later purpose when she have form a bond with the SH, her initial purpose was to find a home or just a place to settle and hide from WG

                                                        I only say that Hancock is one sided because she treats everyone like dirt apart from Luffy. You need a lot of development and room to make her someone that the Strawhats will actually like.

                                                        You need a whole LOT of room to make Perona into someone the SH actually like. Perona treat EVERYONE like dirt aside from the mysterious four who are her equal so she can't do anything about that

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                                                          Simple, He thinks hes always right.

                                                          Wich clearly isnt true coz his speculations of his ''plot'' theory Sucked total ass coz Luffy is on AL.

                                                          So there goes his ''plot'' theory.

                                                          AGOG whats about returning to AL that has to do with the Plot? Cant they just move on? i mean there is nothing left on Amazon Lilly:ninja:.

                                                          He made super dupper long essays about that.

                                                          Another idiot among several… A batch of imbeciles...

                                                          Once again, I made "SUPER DUPPER LONG ESSAYS" about how, when the Strawhats are back together and they have basically been together after Luffy wakes up, considering that Nami's Logpose is BROKEN-- by the cover picture of the mole thing-- then, since they must reset their logpose, they will either do it on Fishman Island, which they know and have the means to get there, or as other users suggested that they would have to head somewhere, totally irrelevant, to do it.

                                                          People said, "Amazon Lily" so I merely showed the fact that was introduced about the whole topic. However, you and several others decided to quote me out of context to get your ego boost or whatever, obviously ignoring the original argument and just randomly picking whatever you want to pick... You said, that them going to FI is impossible and I argued that there was no other place to go aside from the former.

                                                          So, the only thing this whole entire thing proves is that everyone has a problem with me, rather than understanding what was actually said.

                                                          Furthermore, the idea that you could type was beyond this thread's, or yours, capacity.

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                                                            just like the purpose of Croc, Buggy, Mr.2, and Mr.3, so for all we know, that could be her only purpose and when it's over and done, they go their separate way, and if you want to talk about new characters, why didn't Oda just introduce a bunch of new characters in Impel Down instead of reusing Arabasta characters? Cause there's quite a few people who have conflict with and respect for WB beside Crocodile.

                                                            Well with Impel Down there were various reasons.
                                                            The main one is that it is a prison, could we not have expected Oda to bring back villains seeing as it is an underwater gaol full of them?
                                                            And then of course we needed the characters powers, Buggy for flying, Mr.3 for Magellan, Crocodile to escape level 6, Mr 2 to introduce the okamas and so on. Look I'm not denying that Oda always has a reason to bring back enemies, it's just I think Perona will join the Straw Hats.

                                                            well this is just matter of opinion, which i think otherwise, but it's irrelevance because you cant convince opinions. The same can be said for any other candidate regarding Oda adapting a character personality to fit the SH.

                                                            It's not really. It's expected that she'll want her clothes and treasure back. Wouldn't you?

                                                            yea, that's worth meeting an enemies crew, she's not Nami who valuable those stuff more than life

                                                            Zoro's sword, Luffy's hat, Robin's books. She has personal belongings that she'll want back. She'll be with Zoro anyway. She has nothing to fear.

                                                            You need a whole LOT of room to make Perona into someone the SH actually like. Perona treat EVERYONE like dirt aside from the mysterious four who are her equal so she can't do anything about that

                                                            I don't think so. I've seen her drag Zoro's body all the way to that castle and lose sleep over healing him. It's already been foreshadowed that she's kind and they want to 'keep' her
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                                                              Another idiot among several… A batch of imbeciles...

                                                              Once again, I made "SUPER DUPPER LONG ESSAYS" about how, when the Strawhats are back together and they have basically been together after Luffy wakes up, considering that Nami's Logpose is BROKEN-- by the cover picture of the mole thing-- then, since they must reset their logpose, they will either do it on Fishman Island, which they know and have the means to get there, or as other users suggested that they would have to head somewhere, totally irrelevant, to do it.

                                                              People said, "Amazon Lily" so I merely showed the fact that was introduced about the whole topic. However, you and several others decided to quote me out of context to get your ego boost or whatever, obviously ignoring the original argument and just randomly picking whatever you want to pick... You said, that them going to FI is impossible and I argued that there was no other place to go aside from the former.

                                                              So, the only thing this whole entire thing proves is that everyone has a problem with me, rather than understanding what was actually said.

                                                              Furthermore, the idea that you could type was beyond this thread's, or yours, capacity.

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                                                                Well with Impel Down there were various reasons.
                                                                The main one is that it is a prison, could we not have expected Oda to bring back villains seeing as it is an underwater gaol full of them?
                                                                And then of course we needed the characters powers, Buggy for flying, Mr.3 for Magellan, Crocodile to escape level 6, Mr 2 to introduce the okamas and so on. Look I'm not denying that Oda always has a reason to bring back enemies, it's just I think Perona will join the Straw Hats.

                                                                there are plenty of characters in each of the 6 level they could have introduce but i do agree that most of the character re-introduced in ID fit their various level of ID perfect, and Mr.3 was necessary against Magellan, but as you can see, none of them join, but rather they serve their purpose, and continue on with their main goal, which is what Perona meeting Zoro will equate to for me, but well, now it's down to opinion so it's pointless going further

                                                                It's not really. It's expected that she'll want her clothes and treasure back. Wouldn't you?

                                                                most of those stuff that she robbed anyway so technically, they're not her's

                                                                Zoro's sword, Luffy's hat, Robin's books. She has personal belongings that she'll want back. She'll be with Zoro anyway. She has nothing to fear.

                                                                Zoro aint gonna protect her from 10 ton Usopp Hammer :getlost:

                                                                I don't think so. I've seen her drag Zoro's body all the way to that castle and lose sleep over healing him. It's already been foreshadowed that she's kind and they want to 'keep' her
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                                                                  most of those stuff that she robbed anyway so technically, they're not her's

                                                                  But Nami's treasures are?

                                                                  Zoro aint gonna protect her from 10 ton Usopp Hammer :getlost:

                                                                  Guh

                                                                  more like show how far she's willing to go to get a servant

                                                                  What. Well now that's just stupid. She didn't drag Zoro and lose sleep healing him to make him her servant, and in my opinion those are real cases of foreshadowing.

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                                                                    But Nami's treasures are?

                                                                    Guh

                                                                    What. Well now that's just stupid. She didn't drag Zoro and lose sleep healing him to make him her servant, and in my opinion those are real cases of foreshadowing.

                                                                    why did iva-san and law heal luffy and mr. 2?

                                                                    do they have some ulterior motive?

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                                                                      But Nami's treasures are?

                                                                      they're what Perona voluntary put on Sunny, Perona is not getting her treasure back period, the only time Nami give up her treasures and money was for Vivi who was like a sister to her

                                                                      What. Well now that's just stupid. She didn't drag Zoro and lose sleep healing him to make him her servant, and in my opinion those are real cases of foreshadowing.

                                                                      what is so stupid about a selfish character wanting a servant having an ulterior motive for saving someone? if anything, it's the most logical explanation

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                                                                        Don't want to read through all those pages.
                                                                        Has someone mentioned anything about a ship coater,
                                                                        or will that be another of frankys duties as the mechanic?

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                                                                          Don't want to read through all those pages.
                                                                          Has someone mentioned anything about a ship coater,
                                                                          or will that be another of frankys duties as the mechanic?

                                                                          i think people figure we aren't going to need one till series basically over. i mean if we conqure the grand line like we are supposed to then does that mean we end up back in first half grand line?

                                                                          then what? we head to holy land to take care of tenryuubito/gouresei/wg/ect. that is in first half, no need for coating.

                                                                          so its not really a high priority

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                                                                            Wow, I'm glad to see that everyone who said I had hijacked the thread was wrong. The discussions continue to roll without me anyway. 😆

                                                                            There has been a lot of great comments in the last two pages. I have nothing else to add.

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                                                                            Hancock however, has been a present force in the story ever since the Straw Hats were seperated. I'm willing to go far enough to say that ever since Vivi left, and aside from Nami and Robin. Boa Hancock is the only other female character who's had this much spotlight for this long in the ENTIRE manga. We've been given information about her past, there have been hints dropped that her title may be in question, and Nyon has said that her love sickness is still there and we are at a current point in the story were she has her best (and only) chance to join the crew. It all hinges on where the story goes after the flashback ends. And it has a good chance to focus on Amazon Lily as much as it will just have Luffy leave and never look back.

                                                                            This is so true!

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                                                                            And the things that are holding Hancock back are capable of being resolved imo.

                                                                            As is this.

                                                                            Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                                                                              yea coating, was only needed to sail underwater through fishmen island, once they reach Raftel, i think they just cross the calm belt to exit unless there's another secret exit there

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                                                                                Well there's the theory of allblue being located Within the redline
                                                                                as well As the last island. The moby dick was not coated during the
                                                                                whitebeard/shanks encounter. But, it was at marineford. They must
                                                                                have a ship coater. If puffy wants to freely travel the oceans it would
                                                                                make sense for him to have a coater.

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                                                                                  Well there's the theory of allblue being located Within the redline
                                                                                  as well As the last island. The moby dick was not coated during the
                                                                                  whitebeard/shanks encounter. But, it was at marineford. They must
                                                                                  have a ship coater. If puffy wants to freely travel the oceans it would
                                                                                  make sense for him to have a coater.

                                                                                  well they kind of do.

                                                                                  well they have rayleigh for the first half if any coating needed.

                                                                                  maybe they will meet someone on the second side, or franky learns it. franky makes most sense, i woudl hate someone to join solely on "he can coat a ship" i'm not big on the whole position joining, besides cook, and navigator. oh and i guess the all important musician

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                                                                                    U dont know if moby wasn´t coated during the shanks/wb meeting.

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                                                                                      I was just going by the look of the ship. It does make sense, though, that franky
                                                                                      would learn that skill as he is the ship mechanic.

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                                                                                        I'll just go with a mermaid/merman or fish person as next nakama. One with sonar
                                                                                        abilties to find the secret passages, if Any, in the redline. Unless that's another of
                                                                                        sunnys abilities.

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                                                                                          I would say Aquaman.

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                                                                                            @Deicide:

                                                                                            Wow, I'm glad to see that everyone who said I had hijacked the thread was wrong. The discussions continue to roll without me anyway. 😆

                                                                                            There has been a lot of great comments in the last two pages. I have nothing else to add.

                                                                                            This is so true!

                                                                                            As is this.

                                                                                            Hancock having the most spotlight of any female isn't really saying much, given the amount of non-villain females since then.

                                                                                            Nyon
                                                                                            Conis
                                                                                            Margirette
                                                                                            Camie
                                                                                            Mozu and Kiwi
                                                                                            Lola
                                                                                            Hancocks sisters
                                                                                            Shaaki
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                                                                                            Aisa's cousin
                                                                                            Kokoro
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                                                                                            When compared to the amount of male characters.

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                                                                                            Cricket
                                                                                            Wiper
                                                                                            Pagaya
                                                                                            Pappag
                                                                                            Mr.2
                                                                                            Mr.3
                                                                                            Mr.1
                                                                                            Crocodile
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                                                                                            Risky Brothers
                                                                                            Paulie
                                                                                            Yokozuna
                                                                                            Peepley Lulu and Tilestone
                                                                                            Zambai
                                                                                            Hacchi
                                                                                            Ivankov
                                                                                            Inazuma
                                                                                            Iceberg
                                                                                            Oimo and Kaashi
                                                                                            Marco
                                                                                            Jozu
                                                                                            Vista
                                                                                            Oars Jr.
                                                                                            Apoo
                                                                                            Bepo
                                                                                            Killer
                                                                                            Jean Bart
                                                                                            Hawkins
                                                                                            Kidd
                                                                                            Law
                                                                                            Urouge
                                                                                            Capone
                                                                                            Drake
                                                                                            Sabo
                                                                                            Duval
                                                                                            Shanks
                                                                                            Rayleigh
                                                                                            Benn Beckman
                                                                                            Yassopp
                                                                                            Lucky Roo
                                                                                            Jinbei
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                                                                                            Also, any problem that any character has can be resolved.

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                                                                                                Hancock having the most spotlight of any female isn't really saying much, given the amount of non-villain females since then.

                                                                                                This doesn't change the fact that what he said is true.

                                                                                                Plus, he was comparing Hancock to Perona only in his post, so his comment makes a lot of sense in that context.

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                                                                                                  Well the obvious way was that law was going to magically find some organs and Revive him from the dead.

                                                                                                  But I guess I should change that to almost anybody.

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                                                                                                  This doesn't change the fact that what he said is true.

                                                                                                  I never denied that it was true, only how impressive it was.

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                                                                                                    Hancock having the most spotlight of any female isn't really saying much, given the amount of non-villain females since then.

                                                                                                    Nyon
                                                                                                    Conis
                                                                                                    Margirette
                                                                                                    Camie
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                                                                                                    When compared to the amount of male characters.

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                                                                                                    Shoujo
                                                                                                    Cricket
                                                                                                    Wiper
                                                                                                    Pagaya
                                                                                                    Pappag
                                                                                                    Mr.2
                                                                                                    Mr.3
                                                                                                    Mr.1
                                                                                                    Crocodile
                                                                                                    Jinbei
                                                                                                    Whitebeard
                                                                                                    Ace
                                                                                                    Risky Brothers
                                                                                                    Paulie
                                                                                                    Yokozuna
                                                                                                    Peepley Lulu and Tilestone
                                                                                                    Zambai
                                                                                                    Hacchi
                                                                                                    Ivankov
                                                                                                    Inazuma
                                                                                                    Iceberg
                                                                                                    Oimo and Kaashi
                                                                                                    Marco
                                                                                                    Jozu
                                                                                                    Vista
                                                                                                    Oars Jr.
                                                                                                    Apoo
                                                                                                    Bepo
                                                                                                    Killer
                                                                                                    Jean Bart
                                                                                                    Hawkins
                                                                                                    Kidd
                                                                                                    Law
                                                                                                    Urouge
                                                                                                    Capone
                                                                                                    Drake
                                                                                                    Sabo
                                                                                                    Duval
                                                                                                    Shanks
                                                                                                    Rayleigh
                                                                                                    Benn Beckman
                                                                                                    Yassopp
                                                                                                    Lucky Roo
                                                                                                    Jinbei
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                                                                                                    Also, any problem that any character has can be resolved.

                                                                                                    But Hancock is the only female character post Vivi who's not a straw hat, that has had back to back spotlight in arcs. The only female who hasn vanished and shown up later after 100+ chapters (I'm looking at you Tashgi) No other female character (cept Robin, Nami and Vivi before she left) can stake that claim.

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                                                                                                      Saying "insert random irrelevant fact isn't saying much" isn't the same as saying that it isn't true. It just means it isn't important in that person's opinion.

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                                                                                                        @Halfmetal-lich:

                                                                                                        But Hancock is the only female character post Vivi who's not a straw hat, that has had back to back spotlight in arcs. The only female who hasn vanished and shown up later after 100+ chapters (I'm looking at you Tashgi) No other female character (cept Robin, Nami and Vivi before she left) can stake that claim.

                                                                                                        Ahh, I see you were going with the pattern, not the statistic. That makes more sense.

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