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      I am still placing my bets on PAULIE…....Or both....hope it is paulie

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        @Buccaneer:

        What I mentioned was his very first appearance. And his 335 appearance was wild, but if you went by cheekiness then you'd end up thinking Doflamingo will battle Whitebeard alongside Luffy or something.

        Not a main villain, but a villain, and it was hard to doubt until maybe the end of 336. That's enough of a stretch.

        The response, though, was directly to the statement describing Franky as "a guy who everybody thought would be a main villain of an arc." And I've never made any point other than he was not the arc villain.

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          @Paulie:

          But I would certainly not expect him to be the big villain of the arc, as Yoska mentioned. I certainly don't think that's much of a stretch. I mean, speedo-wearing cyborg with Ace Ventura hair?

          I was not speaking of the speedo wearing Franky but the huge hairy and menacing guy who let Usopp to be beaten into pulp, about the guy whom Iceburg warned of and about the guy who's huge thief gang stole Straw Hat's money and attacked Zoro. Back then Franky fulfilled every quality of the main villain.

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            I was not speaking of the speedo wearing Franky but the huge hairy and menacing guy who let Usopp to be beaten into pulp, about the guy whom Iceburg warned of and about the guy who's huge thief gang stole Straw Hat's money and attacked Zoro. Back then Franky fulfilled every quality of the main villain.

            It's very easy to see Franky as a villain in that light, especially because… well.. who here thought Water 7 would be as enormous as it was? I only started reading when SogeKing was first introduced, but after the Foxy Arc I'd have only thought Water 7 would've been 2-4 volumes, with a 'minor' villain plausibly like Bellamy or Wapol (to sue examples of 'mini-arc-bossess'). After Franky revealed his true appearance tohugh it would be kinda hard to see him as a villain.

            How many people really saw Water 7 developing into what it became?

            As this is really a thread on Franky v Paulie though - Franky is my favourite, however I admit more-or-less right up until the departure from Water 7 it looked more like Paulie would (he had way-more interactions with the Crew after all). After then he's just kind-of lingered in the background and has faded into obscurity - though he is the only one who didn't get blown into the pit by Buster Call cannons.

            I don't think Oda will pull another WTF moment like Robin joining - that's what makes Robin different/unique. Besides, I just like Franky so much more than all other potentials now, though Paulie is still cool.

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              Luffy will take Franky as a musician and as a Monster (cyborg)

              And only then ussop and nami will tell him that he is a Carpenter too 😮

              Please, be patient with me, i am French and my english is far from perfect !!

              If you correct me, i will improve :)

              One Piece is so goood!!

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                Yeah, I figured he'd forgive him once he found out he was a musician.

                Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                Bad move, bub!

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                  @Eudaemonium:

                  After Franky revealed his true appearance tohugh it would be kinda hard to see him as a villain.

                  It was that exact moment when he ceased being big caliber and he entered minor league. All in fair there were few very greazy individuals who thought Franky isn't a bad person back then before the big momento but, seriously, the day Franky's appearance was revealed we already started to have "I will stop reading One Piece if that guy joins" and suchs similar threads popping out. And even more these thread once we knew he was a cyborg.

                  Yeah, I'm a big fan of "Luffy asking Franky to join as a musician without knowing that he's a shipwright too" theory. That would be very Luffy like.

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                    @Yoska:

                    It was that exact moment when he ceased being big caliber and he entered minor league. All in fair there were few very greazy individuals who thought Franky isn't a bad person back then before the big momento but, seriously, the day Franky's appearance was revealed we already started to have "I will stop reading One Piece if that guy joins" and suchs similar threads popping out. And even more these thread once we knew he was a cyborg.

                    Yeah, I'm a big fan of "Luffy asking Franky to join as a musician without knowing that he's a shipwright too" theory. That would be very Luffy like.

                    i thought Franky as a villian was near perfect, his biggest downfall for me was his Family. But even then he was still a great character, he was something different, he was basically exactly like the Mugiwara but just so happened to be opposing them. It was a thing where it wasn't about good or bad but more so the defence of one's nakama that alone for me made it a good match up.

                    As for Luffy asking Franky to join as something else, it's kinda already done with Chopper. I want to see Franky acknowledged as Franky for better or for worse and have a real cliche style musician introduced in the next arc.

                    I recommend: Peerless Martial God, Renegade Immortal, Gourmet of Another World, Trash of the Counts Family and The Great Ruler

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                      I think there might be a bit of foreshadowing Oda did regarding Franky.

                      As some of you know in chapter 428

                      ! Merry Returns

                      Now that might just be giggles and farts, but if there's any possiblity of the Battle Merry via Franky, it would probably be here

                      Originally Posted by Cap'n Carter

                      Good thing that everytime I'm afraid I'll have the will to live I can browse Arlong Park have it utterly eliminated

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                        As this is really a thread on Franky v Paulie though - Franky is my favourite, however I admit more-or-less right up until the departure from Water 7 it looked more like Paulie would (he had way-more interactions with the Crew after all). After then he's just kind-of lingered in the background and has faded into obscurity - though he is the only one who didn't get blown into the pit by Buster Call cannons.

                        I don't think Oda will pull another WTF moment like Robin joining - that's what makes Robin different/unique. Besides, I just like Franky so much more than all other potentials now, though Paulie is still cool.

                        I wouldnt say that paulie has really been pushed into the background. He isnt with the strawhats, so that certainly limits his screentime, but every time the story flashes back to the other pirates he is their representitive, and gets a few cases to showcase his skill

                        @sabret00the:

                        As for Luffy asking Franky to join as something else, it's kinda already done with Chopper. I want to see Franky acknowledged as Franky for better or for worse and have a real cliche style musician introduced in the next arc.

                        hell yeah! i would love to see a violinist of hamelesk musician 😁

                        But my problem with franky is that hes lacking the extreme characteristics which most of the crew have(Robin excluded–but shes kinda just joining now)
                        Hes also kinda old and i like my crew of kids..even if Paulie would ruin that too 👅

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                          But my problem with franky is that hes lacking the extreme characteristics which most of the crew have(Robin excluded–but shes kinda just joining now)
                          Hes also kinda old and i like my crew of kids..even if Paulie would ruin that too 👅

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                          Lacking is extreme characteristics? What?? :blink:

                          He breaks out in guitar solos!

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                            Yeah, I'm not seeing the lack of extreme characteristics, Franky's a nutjob. Guitar solos, he runs on cola, has a super fart attack, wears a speedo, Franky's pretty extreme guy.

                            ANd by the way, Franky gets my vote; I like Paulie, but Franky's better qualified.

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                              hes got crazy characteristics yeah, and a kinky personality, but he doesnt seem to have a unique defining characteristic (i know im not expressing myself well) Chopper is naive, Ussop is a coward, ect.

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                                hard evidence on Franky:
                                We already know his Hero…TOM
                                We already know hi Past
                                ....Hope Will not like VIVI

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                                  @Orange:

                                  hes got crazy characteristics yeah, and a kinky personality, but he doesnt seem to have a unique defining characteristic (i know im not expressing myself well) Chopper is naive, Ussop is a coward, ect.

                                  He's …an over actor? He just seems to be a general over-the-top kind of guy. A weirdo too.

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                                    Franky fits the bill to be a Mugiwara…... but his dream doesn't..... because he wants to build a ship to be self repairable-kind or something like that...without needing a shipwright...... if he already built it, his dream is done....there is no other reason for him to be with the mugiwaras, unless the ship is 3/4 done.....and they are forced to sail.......

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                                      I desperately hope they drop both Franky and Paulie and go for Hattori.

                                      Hattori is cute, innocent, and has nobody now that Lucci's pushing up litter.

                                      Franky will be grating in large doses… it's like Bon Kurei, yet somehow more in your face.

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                                        Franky has the same seiyuu as Bon Clay….. maybe that's why.....

                                        Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.

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                                          @kljs:

                                          Franky fits the bill to be a Mugiwara…... but his dream doesn't..... because he wants to build a ship to be self repairable-kind or something like that...without needing a shipwright...... if he already built it, his dream is done....there is no other reason for him to be with the mugiwaras, unless the ship is 3/4 done.....and they are forced to sail.......

                                          Who's says the ship will be self-repairable? Franky will fix it!

                                          And yeah, I imagine that his dreamship won't be done so quickly, right? Franky may find tools and materials along the way to make that ship better. Plus, it's a BS theory, sorry but…

                                          Sanji has barely brought you All Blue since he joined.
                                          Where is Nami's map of the world? I mean sure they are traveling but...
                                          How far is Chopper on that pancaea he wanted? Oh, is he a real pirate yet?

                                          Really, Franky just need to be there. There's no requirement saying that Franky has to be obsessed him his dream throughout his adventure, he'll be busy with the various story arc plots as well.

                                          But hey, at least Franky added that "To the end of the world" disclaimer after declaring his dream. Hey, maybe that means that...his dream won't be finshed until they get to Raftel! Plus, who wants to bet that Franky would have to modify the ship to get past various challenges along the Grandline?

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                                            Franky rulez that's a fact!
                                            Franky rulez the world is another.. 😄

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                                              I'm hoping we get both Franky and Hattori out of this to be honest

                                              Franky would be great, and Luffy would just somehow seem even more badass with Hattori sitting on his shoulder. Poor little pidgeon is all alone in the world now.

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                                                I'm hoping we get both Franky and Hattori out of this to be honest

                                                Franky would be great, and Luffy would just somehow seem even more badass with Hattori sitting on his shoulder. Poor little pidgeon is all alone in the world now.

                                                nice idea….but does Hattori really fit Luffy?

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                                                  Sod Luffy, Hattori's cute.

                                                  He's the closest thing to a traditional pirate's shoulder parrot stereotype we've seen in One Piece.

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                                                    Luffy is not your traditional stereotype pirate though…..

                                                    Pro-Main Cast Evangelist. In Oda We Trust. TheJackAss Crew. AMC = Anti-main Cast. Luffy x Nami.

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                                                      Well, here's my issue with Franky joining and his dream… Tom built a ship for Roger and stayed on Water 7. He didn't feel the need to go with him because of his love for building ships. Franky has that same spark and desire. I think once he gets to making one he migh start wanting his own fleet again.

                                                      He's already at the best dock in the world as it has been said. Leaving there seems to hurt his dream over helping it. Aside from that, I think he and Iceburg would be better off rekindling friendship and solving the islands problems which would be the TRUE way for him to follow in Tom's footsteps. Like stopping Water 7 from sinking, or better protection from next years aqua laguna.

                                                      Sure Franky is crazy and powerfull, but with his ties to Water 7 and his dream and Franky Family, I just don't see him leaving.

                                                      As I have said many times over, I can see just as the Strawhats are leaving, Paulie swinging onboard being chased by his creditors. He has less to leave behind, he's got awsome skills being trained by Iceburg, and also has a unique personallity. Besides that, he's had plenty of good interaction from Luffy who will be the one to choose in the end. Thinking back to where Luffy asked Iceburg to be a pirate and he told Luffy "Feel free to take anyone you want, though I don't think you'll find anyone who is willing." with the scene of Paulie and luffy pinned down together in the mansion...

                                                      I still hold vote for Paulie till the end. As always... just my own speculation, you can't often predict what Oda will pull.

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                                                        though seems like the scene where both Luffy and Paulie were strapped down seems potent in developing a relationship. You must also recall what Paulie said…in regards to his loyalty to Galley Comp. and Iceberg. Would that make sense for him to abandon his passion at Water 7?

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                                                          @Kumadori:

                                                          Well, here's my issue with Franky joining and his dream… Tom built a ship for Roger and stayed on Water 7. He didn't feel the need to go with him because of his love for building ships. Franky has that same spark and desire. I think once he gets to making one he migh start wanting his own fleet again.

                                                          He's already at the best dock in the world as it has been said. Leaving there seems to hurt his dream over helping it. Aside from that, I think he and Iceburg would be better off rekindling friendship and solving the islands problems which would be the TRUE way for him to follow in Tom's footsteps. Like stopping Water 7 from sinking, or better protection from next years aqua laguna.

                                                          Sure Franky is crazy and powerfull, but with his ties to Water 7 and his dream and Franky Family, I just don't see him leaving.

                                                          As I have said many times over, I can see just as the Strawhats are leaving, Paulie swinging onboard being chased by his creditors. He has less to leave behind, he's got awsome skills being trained by Iceburg, and also has a unique personallity. Besides that, he's had plenty of good interaction from Luffy who will be the one to choose in the end. Thinking back to where Luffy asked Iceburg to be a pirate and he told Luffy "Feel free to take anyone you want, though I don't think you'll find anyone who is willing." with the scene of Paulie and luffy pinned down together in the mansion...

                                                          I still hold vote for Paulie till the end. As always... just my own speculation, you can't often predict what Oda will pull.

                                                          Paulie has as much if even more ties to Water 7 as Franky, in fact, he's the head of Galley La now, whereas Franky has always been a crimincal. He's close to Iceberg and all the carpenteres at Galley La. Really, this arguement sounds like it should only apply to Franky.

                                                          Paulie wouldn't leave Water 7 just to escape creditors. He runs away fom them in his own town everyday. Iceberg wouldn't just "give away" one of his carpenters to the SHs unless they were willing, it's not like any carpenter their would just let themselves be "given away" like people are suggesting. Paulie, for example, would want to stay at Galley LA with all in fellow carpenters.

                                                          As for Franky, I think he has enough knowledge in shipbuilding to build he ideal ship already, and is probably satisfied with his relationship with Iceberg. It still doesn't seem practical.

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                                                            @onemoment:

                                                            Paulie has as much if even more ties to Water 7 as Franky, in fact, he's the head of Galley La now, whereas Franky has always been a crimincal. He's close to Iceberg and all the carpenteres at Galley La. Really, this arguement sounds like it should only apply to Franky.

                                                            Paulie wouldn't leave Water 7 just to escape creditors. He runs away fom them in his own town everyday. Iceberg wouldn't just "give away" one of his carpenters to the SHs unless they were willing, it's not like any carpenter their would just let themselves be "given away" like people are suggesting. Paulie, for example, would want to stay at Galley LA with all in fellow carpenters.

                                                            As for Franky, I think he has enough knowledge in shipbuilding to build he ideal ship already, and is probably satisfied with his relationship with Iceberg. It still doesn't seem practical.

                                                            What? Last time I checked, the assassination of Iceburg was a failure. This being said Iceburg is still alive and still the mayor and head head of Galley-La company. The ties Paulie had with the carpenters was shaken upon learning the identity of the CP9 were actually the people held as his best friends. He seamed more like an idol for the minor carpenters than their friend. Even if he leaves, Iceburg still has Tileston and Lulu.

                                                            And to me at least it seems like he might possibley been contemplating going with Luffy through his actions and his reflections of Luffy's words. Paulie does seem like the type to bugger off to avoid his debt for the time being, not to say he won't plan on coming back a little later to pay it off. Iceburg did actually SAY Luffy could take anyone who was willing to go. http://www.msnusers.com/OnePieceMangav-2/onepiecechapter327.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1695

                                                            As for Franky…. just look how distraught he's been about his family being hurt and whatnot since even the begining of the arc. Why would he abandon them now to become a pirate? Why would he leave the number one dock in the world? His dream is to build the dreamship. Not sail in it.

                                                            I'm not saying Franky can't/won't join... in fact chances are he probly will.. but this is my own speculation.

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                                                              What? Last time I checked, the assassination of Iceburg was a failure. This being said Iceburg is still alive and still the mayor and head head of Galley-La company. The ties Paulie had with the carpenters was shaken upon learning the identity of the CP9 were actually the people held as his best friends. He seamed more like an idol for the minor carpenters than their friend. Even if he leaves, Iceburg still has Tileston and Lulu.

                                                              And to me at least it seems like he might possibley been contemplating going with Luffy through his actions and his reflections of Luffy's words. Paulie does seem like the type to bugger off to avoid his debt for the time being, not to say he won't plan on coming back a little later to pay it off. Iceburg did actually SAY Luffy could take anyone who was willing to go. http://www.msnusers.com/OnePieceMangav-2/onepiecechapter327.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1695

                                                              As for Franky…. just look how distraught he's been about his family being hurt and whatnot since even the begining of the arc. Why would he abandon them now to become a pirate? Why would he leave the number one dock in the world? His dream is to build the dreamship. Not sail in it.

                                                              I'm not saying Franky can't/won't join... in fact chances are he probly will.. but this is my own speculation.

                                                              Okay, I don't know Paulie's exact rank, but he's still more or less a leader among the carpenters. I'd doubt that he would leave them, and he still personally has Tilestone and Lulu too, in addition to Iceberg.

                                                              It just seems like people are ignoring Paulie's reasons to stay to get him to leave. Just because we don't like Iceberg, Tilestone, and Lulu doesn't mean he doesn't, they are good friends to him, and frankly they seem much more important to him then the SHs right now.

                                                              And I'm saying that Franky would leave the number one dock in the world because he's confident in his abilities to build a ship, a master shipwright wouldn't need such a thing. Besides, either shipwright could benefit in skill from staying at Water 7, so it's kind of a moot point. And that debt thing isn't too good either, what he'd leave all his friends because of debt collectors?

                                                              Plus, there's really no reason for Paulie to become a pirate, Iceberg has taught him to be a shipwright. While Franky, on the other hand, has been a local crime boss. Plus, he doesn't have to just "build the ship," if he wants it to reach the end of the world then he has to see to it himself, because it will need repairs. Not only that, but what if the ship runs into another Skypiea and needs to be modded? Franky would be best suited for it. If Franky builds the ship, then he should be the shipwright. No matter how skilled Paulie is, no one knows a ship better then the creator.

                                                              And lastly, I feel like an ***hole for arguing against Paulie joining when…Franky is most likely to join now. Still...these reasons seem weak. It's like they aren't even thinking about Paulie's character.

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                                                                pretty painfully obvious its going to be franky. Hes the only one near the level of the SH's strength plus he would make a great comic relief.

                                                                I think he will have a great relationship with Usopp; and help Usopp ascend to a much needed higher level of strength. He can also help Usopp make better use of dials and such.

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                                                                  No, it's not that we are ignoring his reasons to stay, more or less trying to justify his position on why he'd leave. Personally, I would love to see more of Iceburg. He's one of my favorite characters now, but as much as Iceburg is Paulie's father figure, it doesn't seem as far fetched to believe he could depart with the Strawhats more easily than Franky leaving behind 50-60 people that pretty much DEPEND on him.

                                                                  As for Paulie's rank, He's the Dock 1 mast repair division leader. And as you said, Iceburg trained him to be a shipwright… Currently, Luffy and co. are in need of a... Gasp shipwright!

                                                                  Franky doesn't need to oversee the ship he builds in order to know it's capabillities, Just as Tom heard the exploits of the ship he gave to Roger.

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                                                                    No, it's not that we are ignoring his reasons to stay, more or less trying to justify his position on why he'd leave. Personally, I would love to see more of Iceburg. He's one of my favorite characters now, but as much as Iceburg is Paulie's father figure, it doesn't seem as far fetched to believe he could depart with the Strawhats more easily than Franky leaving behind 50-60 people that pretty much DEPEND on him.

                                                                    As for Paulie's rank, He's the Dock 1 mast repair division leader. And as you said, Iceburg trained him to be a shipwright… Currently, Luffy and co. are in need of a... Gasp shipwright!

                                                                    Franky doesn't need to oversee the ship he builds in order to know it's capabillities, Just as Tom heard the exploits of the ship he gave to Roger.

                                                                    Maybe, but at the same time Paulie has potentially 100s of people who rely on him too. I'm just saying, Franky's and Paulie's reason's mirror each other here.

                                                                    And while Franky may know the ship's capacities, there's little way to know if the ship will be capable of reaching the Grandline just after making it. No one knows what Raftel is like, for all we know if will be surrounded in shallow water or something. And when that happen's Franky will be needed to make sure the ship gets through. Who can prepare for the unknown?

                                                                    Tom, on the other hand, never stated any dream of building a dreamship, and may have heard those exploits years later. We don't really know the circumstances in which that Oro Jackson was built, maybe Roger was like all of Tom's other customers, but with the money for a great ship.

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                                                                      FRANKY WILL JOIN BECAUSE HE IS A SUPER BIG MAN! Duh :o!

                                                                      Actually, I have to say that I saw the spread of the Straw Hats (the one that includes Franky) before finishing the Skypedia arc. I already figured he was a new crew member (and kinda disappointed that it was spoiled for me!). When they started talking about getting a mechanin as a member, my suspicion was "confirmed" in my mind. Once I got to the Davy Back Fight, I figured for sure they'd get him after winning their battle. Totally surprised when they took the flag! But, I think that Oda won't delay anymore the acquisition of the "mechanic" member. I hope it will be Franky because… I can't go on without those sexy pantsu!

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                                                                        i dont know
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                                                                        having franky to join is very predictable
                                                                        and it's so unlike Oda's art of unpredictability

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                                                                          The guy has exposure. The guy has reasons. The guy has character. The guy has development. The guy has spreads. The guy has strength. The guy was taught by the World's Greatest Shipwright. Luffy drew a PICTURE of him before entering Water 7. Luffy WANTS a mechanic this arc. The guy is in Jump Superstars 2, along with all the other Strawhats.

                                                                          Come on now. Let's stop being ridiculous and at least admit that Franky has a greater chance of joining than Paulie.

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                                                                          There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                            I like that idea.

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                                                                              I'll admit, at first I didn't like Franky at all, but by god he's grown on me. And even if I didn't like him, there are still about a hundred more reasons for him to join than Paulie. He's got all the makings to be a Strawhat. He's unique, he's fighting alongside them and holding his own. He's indebted to them, he got a FLASHBACK, he wants to build a ship that'll sail to the end of the Grand Line, AND he's a more skilled shipwright than Paulie, having been trained by the world's greatest. Oda is unpredictable, you might say - but any of the reasons people use to say that he won't go with them can be said of Paulie as well.

                                                                              Rope Action? Yawn. I roll my eyes every time I hear those two words used together. How indescribably lame. I'm sorry Paulie fans, but be reasonable. Franky's a freaking cola-powered CYBORG.

                                                                              Oda can be unpredictable, but he's not inconsistant. Vivi wasn't going to join because she had no reason to join and greater obligations. Robin was a wild card. He's not going to throw out all that development to throw a guy whose only unique trait is that he calls women scandalous on board with our beloved Strawhats.

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                                                                              There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                                ok, after Chapter 429…. who is going to lay down the final prediction on who will "EVENTUALLY" join the mugiwaras....

                                                                                after thinking for sometime after reading 429, I am going to say "Paulie".

                                                                                and I call for a 60% chances of Franky is the one.

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                                                                                  it is so franky (16

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                                                                                    It is definitely Franky, his character is unique. You can do so much more with his character, and it always crack me up to see how he cries so much.

                                                                                    The strawhats saved his life, like some of you have said, he is in debt to the strawhats. Franky always repays his debt.
                                                                                    So the fair trade would be an eye for an eye or a life for a life.

                                                                                    Since he was saved by them, that means he will repay them with his life by joining the crew.

                                                                                    Oda is pretty predictable when it comes to the Strawhat crew, except for Robin.
                                                                                    Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, and Chopper were all predictable strawhat crew.
                                                                                    So its only fair that we can also apply this same concept to Franky.

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                                                                                      Oda is pretty predictable when it comes to the Strawhat crew, except for Robin.
                                                                                      Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, and Chopper were all predictable strawhat crew.
                                                                                      So its only fair that we can also apply this same concept to Franky.

                                                                                      You know, I'm surprised, considering just how good an argument this is, that I don't see it being used more often.

                                                                                      There really weren't any doubts at all, in all of the arcs that those characters were introduced in, whether or not they would join the crew in the end or not. Robin was the only anomaly. When Luffy says he wants a new crewmember, the most obvious character joins and that's that. I can understand people doubting it a year ago, but now? Franky's a shoe-in.

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                                                                                      There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                                        The guy has exposure. The guy has reasons. The guy has character. The guy has development. The guy has spreads. The guy has strength. The guy was taught by the World's Greatest Shipwright.

                                                                                        The guy is also ten times more obnoxious than Bon Kurei.

                                                                                        He also lacks a 'defined style'. Zoro is the swordsman. Usopp is the sniper. Sanji is the martial-artist. Franky's moves could extend to overlap every other Mugiwara and then some.

                                                                                        Luffy drew a PICTURE of him before entering Water 7. Luffy WANTS a mechanic this arc

                                                                                        Luffy also drew a picture of Nami as a fish with legs. Can we assume he'll grab Kokoro too?

                                                                                        Come on now. Let's stop being ridiculous and at least admit that Franky has a greater chance of joining than Paulie.

                                                                                        We don't have to like it.

                                                                                        I wish they'd do an all-villians spinoff. I love the OP villians far more than the Mugiwara.

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                                                                                          Luffy also drew a picture of Nami as a fish with legs. Can we assume he'll grab Kokoro too?

                                                                                          Depends. When he drew the picture of Nami as a fish with legs, way back in chapter 69, did he say, "I want our mechanic to look like this?"

                                                                                          If so, yes.

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                                                                                          There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                                                                            He also lacks a 'defined style'. Zoro is the swordsman. Usopp is the sniper. Sanji is the martial-artist. Franky's moves could extend to overlap every other Mugiwara and then some.

                                                                                            Franky is the street thug!

                                                                                            His defined style is to use every possible mean to beat his opponent.

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                                                                                              The guy is also ten times more obnoxious than Bon Kurei.

                                                                                              He also lacks a 'defined style'. Zoro is the swordsman. Usopp is the sniper. Sanji is the martial-artist. Franky's moves could extend to overlap every other Mugiwara and then some.

                                                                                              Wait, which Mugiwara uses machine guns and air pressure?

                                                                                              EDIT: also Zoro grew extra arms, does that mean Robin is now useless?

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                                                                                                Yeah, I don't see how Franky doesn't have a defined style. He uses the art of "I'm a cyborg." Who else can shoot bullets out of their hand, and fire out of there mouth?

                                                                                                And the beauty is, Franky can change those weapons inbetween arcs. Maybe he'll use two cannons one arc, and one "chain fists" the next. Maybe he'll develop a sound cannon, or other sci-fi weapons like that. What happens when he doesn't feel as "super" as he did in this arc?

                                                                                                Really, just Strong right and Gomu gomu no pistol are similar.

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                                                                                                  Wait, which Mugiwara uses machine guns and air pressure?

                                                                                                  Using guns to me falls in Usopp's territory.

                                                                                                  But just because he has some DIFFERENT moves doesn't mean that he doesn't also have some of the SAME moves as the other Mugiwara.

                                                                                                  EDIT: also Zoro grew extra arms, does that mean Robin is now useless?

                                                                                                  Yeah. Now she can go into retirement with 1-2-Jango.😉

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                                                                                                    Using guns to me falls in Usopp's territory.

                                                                                                    But just because he has some DIFFERENT moves doesn't mean that he doesn't also have some of the SAME moves as the other Mugiwara.

                                                                                                    Usopp has a slingshot, not a machine gun. That makes a little difference.

                                                                                                    Plus, who cares about that any way? Both Sanji and Luffy kick, yet their fights aren't the same fight are they? Franky has his own unique and effective moves. Hell, it's not really about whether or not the moves are original, it's whether are not those moves are cool.

                                                                                                    Tell me, out side of strong right and maybe his guns (I still disagree though) what moves does he use that are the same as the other SHs?

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                                                                                                      Luffy also drew a picture of Nami as a fish with legs. Can we assume he'll grab Kokoro too?

                                                                                                      Those are COMPLETELY different situations that had nothing to do with eachother. The fact that you brought that up shows that you are desperately reaching for reasons.

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                                                                                                        Franky Centaur holds an enemy down! ZOMG, he's ripping off Robin!!!11

                                                                                                        Really, many of the Strawhats moves overlap. Chopper punches really hard, just like Luffy punches really hard, the only difference is that he has hooves. Sanji kicks really hard, just like Luffy kicks really hard, the only difference is that he never punches. Usopp shoots fire, Nami shoots lightning. Zoro cuts the air. It's pretty difficult to create characters that don't have moves that overlap in a manga as long as One Piece is. Franky is a Cyborg - the possibilities are, like other members have said, pretty endless. So WHAT if both he and Ussop shoot stuff? Ussop has never fired a single bullet. Franky does! That's difference enough for me. And come on, the characters fight completely differently. Franky's had only one real fight and I can see that.

                                                                                                        When the musician joins and attacks using sound waves, I can guarantee you at least one person is going to complain "ZOMG! He's ripping off Usopp Noise!! Unoriginal!!!11 Oda is loosing his touch/wrote himself into a corner!"

                                                                                                        I agree completely with onemoment. It's COOL. That's all that matters.

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