Oddly, when CGI tries to remain simple and utterly cleanand "2-D" like that while still being fully rounded… it just looks really cheap and un-rendered.
Video games prove you can get a 2-D look with CG models. But for a feature... whats the point?
Oddly, when CGI tries to remain simple and utterly cleanand "2-D" like that while still being fully rounded… it just looks really cheap and un-rendered.
Video games prove you can get a 2-D look with CG models. But for a feature... whats the point?
CGI Looney Tunes is one of those things that just seems . . . . . . wrong. And I'm not even talking as an animation buff, it's just WRONG.
Like Chuck Jones would NEVER have any of that if he were around. In my mind Looney Tune is and always will be hand-drawn, having it in CGI just seems blasphemous.
The only live action movie with Bugs Bunny that I really liked was Space Jam.
If they do a movie like that with good writing and such, then I'm sold.
You can say whatever you want, but I think this looks fantastic.
I agree with you
The only live action movie with Bugs Bunny that I really liked was Space Jam.
If they do a movie like that with good writing and such, then I'm sold.
I liked SpaceJam, but a part of me thinks if it had never been done, and in 2009 a Movie where 'the Looney Toons
all have to team up and play basket ball' was announced it'd be the same as all the other reactions on here.
"This completely ruins the entire concept of what they're about!" etc
@robbybedfart:
Oddly, when CGI tries to remain simple and utterly cleanand "2-D" like that while still being fully rounded… it just looks really cheap and un-rendered.
Video games prove you can get a 2-D look with CG models. But for a feature... whats the point?
I agree - it adds absolutely nothing beneficial to Loony Toons, if you're going to remake it, why not do it in really good 2D as it belongs? Unfortunately it's really just cheaper to do it this way so I guess we're stuck with it until people stop with this idea that everything has to be CG to make money.
I agree - it adds absolutely nothing beneficial to Loony Toons, if you're going to remake it, why not do it in really good 2D as it belongs? Unfortunately it's really just cheaper to do it this way so I guess we're stuck with it until people stop with this idea that everything has to be CG to make money.
It would probably cost less if not the same to have some foreign studio to animate it in 2D.
Seeing as it's only partially 3d, it's probably more of a marketing thing than a cost/expenses thing. Probably to have more of a variety between shorts
plus I think the 3d roadrunner bit was/is supposed to preview before a movie or something… I haven't really been keeping up so I don't know all the details.
Something makes me want to give this show a chance though, probably because in comparison to the previous incantations (baby looney tunes, loonatics) this show looks practically god sent
It would probably cost less if not the same to have some foreign studio to animate it in 2D.
I still dream of a world where our talented US-born artists can make a living.
Ok so I don't really think yogi bear is 'fucking boring'
I never hated it and I watched it all the time as a kid, but then I watched every cartoon that was on tv when I was that age, and it didn't really grab my attention or whatever
so SORRY I DONT HATE YOGI BEAR OK. It's definentally better than snagglepuss
I liked SpaceJam, but a part of me thinks if it had never been done, and in 2009 a Movie where 'the Looney Toons
all have to team up and play basket ball' was announced it'd be the same as all the other reactions on here."This completely ruins the entire concept of what they're about!" etc
You do realize that Space Jam was a terrible movie with a plot which made no sense, that, did in fact, ruin the entire concept of what they're about, right?
That was spun off a popular 30 second commercial, which is about as far as the idea reached?
That is was a bizarro love letter to Michael Jordan, where many of the Looney Tunes characters acted out of sorts and against their usual personalites (And voices after the death of Mel Blanc)?
Bug Bunny doesn't need help against superior foes, he takes care of his own problems.
Really, Space Jam is not a good example ot use of "well here's an absurd idea using classic characters done right!" because… it wasn't.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit however, was amazing and still holds up. Even with the censorship.
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Roger Rabbit is getting a sequel. In THREE DEEE. Whoooaaaa whooooa
@robbybedfart:
Bug Bunny doesn't need help against superior foes, he takes care of his own problems.
Basketball is a team sport, robby. That was the idea that brought all the characters together.
I can't say I remember these instances where the characters were OOC, but it was done in the original cartoons from time to time for comedy. And it could have just been Warner trying to slip in cameos.
I wouldn't say SJ was a great movie, but it was a fun/enjoyable one. It is not Roger Rabbit tier, but nothing since RR really has been and the recent stuff is a fair shade of awful. Looney Tunes has always been about recognizable characters with distinct personalities interacting with stuff, and SJ delivered in that regard. It was a blatant ode to Michael Jordan but even that was joked with at times - even I caught Wayne Knight's product placement joke the first time watching it.
There are definitely better targets for terrible movies than SJ.
Oh boy, Terek vs robby on the subject of Space Jam.
Basketball is a team sport, robby. That was the idea that brought all the characters together.
I can't say I remember these instances where the characters were OOC,
There's the problem. They didn't really seem so much like the Loony Toon characters so much as if they were the actors off-stage, if you know what I mean. Maybe a little too human? But yeah it was a pretty terrible movie, though still very enjoyable for kids I'm sure.
Roger Rabbit is getting a sequel. In THREE DEEE. Whoooaaaa whooooa
Fuck, really? Morons.
The only way this could turn out good is if they talk about how much they hate having been turned into 3D and the plot involves turning them back to 2D like they belong. :>
You know what's funny about Roger Rabbit?
These guys:
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Aside from Wise Ass, the weasels didn't do too much (or rather, I thought that there were too little of them).
And yet I find that they are up there in being the best fucking part of the movie.
Why is that?
Is it Psycho maybe?
I like Psycho.
Basketball is a team sport, robby. That was the idea that brought all the characters together.
Bugs took care of a baseball game before ALL BY HIMSELF before, fielding ever position, and it was awesome. Against a whole lot of BIG TOUGH GUYS way stronger than him, and totally triumphed. zzqxIql0Pnk
And he outwits his foes, he doesn't try to beat them with physical prowess.
But what does he do in the movie? Try to take advantage of the short little guys by suggesting basketball in the first place. That's a Daffy move. Bugs, real Bugs, would have let the aliens name their game and then beat them at it by outwitting them. Even after they became massive giants. ESPECIALLY after they became massive giants.
Bugs Bunny does NOT scream "WE NEED YOUR HEEEELLP!" into the camera, uvula vibrating. If Bugs really absolutely needed aid, it would not involve kidnapping, then later returning to the real world, and a ten minute scene of avoiding a dog so he can get some boxer shorts, and then using fake miracle water. Bugs would have been calmer, and reasoning, and NOT desperate. Bugs is cool under pressure, not… nervous desperate kidnapping wreck.
Every single aspect of the liveaction portion of the plot was rubbish, fromt he quarantine, to Jordan himself realizing at the last second he could use Toon Rules to deus ex machina a stretchy arm? Up to Dan Akroyd Bill Murry showing up at the last second and not even bothering with an explanation of how he got there?
The movie was devoid of charm, humor, and logic. And I've just gone over how out of character Bugs was… and HE had screentime! Everyone else was even worse! He was only Bugs-esque for the first couple minutes of the movie.
I wouldn't say SJ was a great movie, but it was a fun/enjoyable one. It is not Roger Rabbit tier, but nothing since RR really has been and the recent stuff is a fair shade of awful. Looney Tunes has always been about recognizable characters with distinct personalities interacting with stuff, and SJ delivered in that regard. It was a blatant ode to Michael Jordan but even that was joked with at times - even I caught Wayne Knight's product placement joke the first time watching it.
There are definitely better targets for terrible movies than SJ.
Yet SJ was brought up. And… its pretty terrible. Don't even get me started on Lola and how she was a terrible Mary Sue in pretty much every conceivable aspect. (Aside from having the voice of Kath Soucie. That alone was good.)
@robbybedfart:
Bugs took care of a baseball game before ALL BY HIMSELF before, fielding ever position, and it was awesome. Against a whole lot of BIG TOUGH GUYS way stronger than him, and totally triumphed. zzqxIql0Pnk
And he outwits his foes, he doesn't try to beat them with physical prowess.But what does he do in the movie? Try to take advantage of the short little guys by suggesting basketball in the first place. That's a Daffy move. Bugs, real Bugs, would have let the aliens name their game and then beat them at it by outwitting them. Even after they became massive giants. ESPECIALLY after they became massive giants.
Bugs Bunny does NOT scream "WE NEED YOUR HEEEELLP!" into the camera, uvula vibrating. If Bugs really absolutely needed aid, it would not involve kidnapping, then later returning to the real world, and a ten minute scene of avoiding a dog so he can get some boxer shorts, and then using fake miracle water. Bugs would have been calmer, and reasoning, and NOT desperate. Bugs is cool under pressure, not… nervous desperate kidnapping wreck.
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To be fair, there are plenty of episodes where Bugs acts a lot out of character. Like that race he had against the tortoise. He sure acted like Daffy there.
@Thousand:
To be fair, there are plenty of episodes where Bugs acts a lot out of character. Like that race he had against the tortoise. He sure acted like Daffy there.
Oh, I remember those two eps.
The general rule of thumb (I believe) is that Bugs always acts in self-defense, or if he doesn't, then the person deserves it.
Like an early Animaniacs character.
In this case, though, I'm guessing the creators wanted to try a little role reversal and see how Bugs' own shtick (outwitting the bad guy) would be used against him.
And I guess they just wanted to use the idea of a tortoise being faster than him to get enough of a rise to make him the antagonist.
@Thousand:
To be fair, there are plenty of episodes where Bugs acts a lot out of character. Like that race he had against the tortoise. He sure acted like Daffy there.
It's hard to keep a character IN character when you just plop them into a pre-existing role's shoes. You can't really keep the moral of the fable otherwise. Though they kind of turned it on its head I guess.
I think the idea was not that it was a Bugs Bunny cartoon but "our version of this classic fable, starring Bugs Bunny as The Rabbit"
@Thousand:
To be fair, there are plenty of episodes where Bugs acts a lot out of character. Like that race he had against the tortoise. He sure acted like Daffy there.
There was only a handful of episodes like that though; primarily because even the people who made them regarded them as a mistake in judgment. Chuck Jones himself said that Bugs just wasn't funny if he came out on the losing end of any argument.
A good illustration of that is comparing Duck Amuck to Rabbit Rampage. The first short is more highly regarded than the latter despite both of them having the same basic concept; that's because Daffy makes the concept work wonderfully while Bugs really doesn't. As a character, Daffy's greatest shorts were those where he operated as a character who was smart enough to realize that he's in a bad situation, but not quite smart enough to get himself out of it. So tormenting him comes across as funny since he's actively digging himself in deeper because of his own pompous nature.
Compare that to Bugs, who is pretty much always in total control of a situation. Beyond that, he's usually a pretty nice guy who primarily involves himself in a situation after somebody else has done harm to either him or an innocent bystander. Sure, Bob Clampett and the other directors might have portrated him differently, but everybody thinks of the Chuck Jones' version of the character when they talk about Bugs.
So he's a nice guy who usually runs a situation to his advantage because somebody else dragged him into it. Because of all that, putting him at the mercy of another character or plot doesn't work as well. Space Jam probably would have worked better if Bugs hadn't been in it at all because of this.
Well anyway, I think SJ was a fun movie, despite the story and out-of-character moments. Although, it did pretty much mark the end of Michael Jordan's career.
I remember seeing the movie when I was younger, and it was one of the first movies I saw that had live action and animation, along with Roger Rabbit.
But you gotta admit, the soundtrack was pretty good.
@robbybedfart:
Bugs took care of a baseball game before ALL BY HIMSELF before, fielding ever position, and it was awesome. Against a whole lot of BIG TOUGH GUYS way stronger than him, and totally triumphed. And he outwits his foes, he doesn't try to beat them with physical prowess.
Again, that doesn't address how basketball's supposed to be a team game. Plus, baseball is the only real sport where one or two people can defeat an entire team - if one pitcher is good enough, and one batter good enough, they can lock down an opponent's offensive and defensive play indefinitely. For a really team oriented sport like basketball or American football, they'd have to be utterly pathetic (and unlike a professional-grade team) for Bugs to walk all over them, and instead of being funny he'd come across as a bully.
@robbybedfart:
But what does he do in the movie? Try to take advantage of the short little guys by suggesting basketball in the first place. That's a Daffy move. Bugs, real Bugs, would have let the aliens name their game and then beat them at it by outwitting them. Even after they became massive giants. ESPECIALLY after they became massive giants.
The little aliens were hapless lackeys. Even with their guns, they weren't much more than an annoyance to the Looney Tune characters. They wouldn't have been able to come up with a game to play even if Bugs offered them the opportunity, and certainly it wouldn't have been hard to outwit them, dumb as they were. What those aliens lacked that the baseball players had was arrogance from confidence, which Bugs always takes advantage of and such also makes it easier to sympathize with him.
IIRC, the Looney Tunes took advantage of the aliens stupidity during the actual game, but it's hard to imagine they could have done that in a humourous and non-bully way before they stole the NBA star's talent and had no sort of advantage over the Tunes.
@robbybedfart:
Bugs Bunny does NOT scream "WE NEED YOUR HEEEELLP!" into the camera, uvula vibrating. If Bugs really absolutely needed aid, it would not involve kidnapping, then later returning to the real world, and a ten minute scene of avoiding a dog so he can get some boxer shorts, and then using fake miracle water. Bugs would have been calmer, and reasoning, and NOT desperate. Bugs is cool under pressure, not… nervous desperate kidnapping wreck.
Seems more like convention to me, I remember instances of Bugs acting over-the-top like that in the old cartoons. Of course, the incidents were in different cartoons, so what might have felt off with the movie was stringing together so many OOC moments. I don't remember kidnapping but the sheer idea of Bugs doing it is funny to me.
@robbybedfart:
Every single aspect of the liveaction portion of the plot was rubbish, fromt he quarantine, to Jordan himself realizing at the last second he could use Toon Rules to deus ex machina a stretchy arm? Up to
Dan AkroydBill Murry showing up at the last second and not even bothering with an explanation of how he got there?
Haha, that's the ode to Michael Jordan part. I remember (as a 9 year old?) looking at Jordan's suburban home and thinking, "wow, he's a super rich athletic star but he's still living a normal life like a regular person, that's kind of cool". Thinking about it now and how so obviously fake it is, it's stupidly silly, and I think that describes a lot of the campy LA parts in the movie. The random Bill Murray cameo, the pathetic talentless NBA stars faildribbling.
Given all of this incompetence, with Jesus Jordan in the movie it's not surprising he'd pull off a miracle like a Gomu Gomu no Slam Dunk.
@robbybedfart:
Yet SJ was brought up. And… its pretty terrible. Don't even get me started on Lola and how she was a terrible Mary Sue in pretty much every conceivable aspect. (Aside from having the voice of Kath Soucie. That alone was good.)
I didn't hate her in the movie, I can't say I approve of her subsequent appearances when her whole role in SJ was being a "woman" who was a better b-ball player than the main cast.
For a really team oriented sport like basketball or American football, they'd have to be utterly pathetic (and unlike a professional-grade team) for Bugs to walk all over them, and instead of being funny he'd come across as a bully.
And yet at the end of the movie it was mostly Bugs and Michael getting all the work done anyway.
The little aliens were hapless lackeys. Even with their guns, they weren't much more than an annoyance to the Looney Tune characters. They wouldn't have been able to come up with a game to play even if Bugs offered them the opportunity, and certainly it wouldn't have been hard to outwit them, dumb as they were. What those aliens lacked that the baseball players had was arrogance from confidence, which Bugs always takes advantage of and such also makes it easier to sympathize with him.
IIRC, the Looney Tunes took advantage of the aliens stupidity during the actual game, but it's hard to imagine they could have done that in a humourous and non-bully way before they stole the NBA star's talent and had no sort of advantage over the Tunes.
That's the writers fault. The little aliens weren't pre-existing critters that they had to use in that way. They could have STARTED as the giant monstrosities. Bugs dealt with bigger foes all the time. Totally the writers BAD decision there.
Seems more like convention to me, I remember instances of Bugs acting over-the-top like that in the old cartoons. Of course, the incidents were in different cartoons, so what might have felt off with the movie was stringing together so many OOC moments. I don't remember kidnapping but the sheer idea of Bugs doing it is funny to me.
Bugs took Michael from the gold course (through a tiny hole…) and dragooned and guilt tripped him into helping them out.
I didn't hate her in the movie, I can't say I approve of her subsequent appearances when her whole role in SJ was being a "woman" who was a better b-ball player than the main cast.
Love interest that all the guys are gaga for that happens to be better than them at any task at hand and wins the heor over effortlessly, when the character didn't exist beforehand for the last 60 years? Yeah… she was a total Mary Sue.
Well I figured it was time to revive this thread since the movie is finally upon us. A lot of reviews are bashing this movie but I figured I'd post the review from Spill.com since they're a source I always go to:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/yogi-bear-audio-review
And the verdict from Spill is… not that bad. They actually said it was pretty good, better than most of the other live-action cartoons like "Chipmunks" and "Garfield". According to the review they actually tried to stay to the original material, and it sounds like if you're a kid or a fan of "Yogi Bear" you'll like this movie.
@RobbyBevard:
You do realize that Space Jam was a terrible movie with a plot which made no sense, that, did in fact, ruin the entire concept of what they're about, right?
That was spun off a popular 30 second commercial, which is about as far as the idea reached?
That is was a bizarro love letter to Michael Jordan, where many of the Looney Tunes characters acted out of sorts and against their usual personalites (And voices after the death of Mel Blanc)?
Bug Bunny doesn't need help against superior foes, he takes care of his own problems.
Really, Space Jam is not a good example ot use of "well here's an absurd idea using classic characters done right!" because… it wasn't.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit however, was amazing and still holds up. Even with the censorship.
Wait,… So you're arguing that Space Jam sucks??? I think it's only fair that the admin of AP hand me over your MOD powers and allow me to ban you.
I was about to argue that Space Jam was semi-decent, mainly because I was five at the time, but then andre posted and I now have this awful taste in my mouth.
At least we have something in common.
I didn't know you were a hermaphrodite.
I was trying to think of a clever response to this so here it goes. Fuck you
Wait,… So you're arguing that Space Jam sucks??? I think it's only fair that the admin of AP hand me over your MOD powers and allow me to ban you.
You annoy me.
And the gratuitous sexual innuendo is totally out of place.
Take a break from the site.
Robby has truly awakened as a mod.
I was trying to think of a clever response to this so here it goes. Fuck you
You just got mod'd.
Let it be known that on Dec. 17th 2010, RobbyBevard had achieved the True Mod's World by banning a bad poster out of spite.
@Cyan:
Let it be known that on Dec. 17th 2010, RobbyBevard had achieved the True Mod's World by banning a bad poster out of spite.
Freedom is never free.
I reawakened this thread only for it to turn into an unfortunate banning. Sad.
I might see the movie tonight and give my take on it.
I reawakened this thread only for it to turn into an unfortunate banning. Sad.
I might see the movie tonight and give my take on it.
That banning was more entertaining than Yogi Bear ever will be.
That banning was more entertaining than Yogi Bear ever will be.
The trailer was more entertaining than that banning.
It depends on if you're a sadist or masochist
It depends on if you're a sadist or masochist
No honestly, I found the trailer amusing. I mean I get why people don't like it, but in and of itself it just seemed like gags from a cartoon, except with CG and live-action actors. And I like cartoon gags. Now if you just get turned off by the idea of a cartoon being transformed in live-action I get it, but for me I don't mind, cartoon humor can exist in any medium.
Yogi Bear barely sustains itself as a 5 minute short. No way it holds its own for 90 minutes.
Even Yogi's Christmas special only got by with song numbers and the appearance of pretty much every character in the Hanna Barbera archives.
If they replaced the ending with the one with yogi having his brains blown out by booboo then it'd be a real success.
I can just image the crowds of people in the cinema screaming 'DIE…DIE...DIE' looking utterly deranged.
@RobbyBevard:
Yogi Bear barely sustains itself as a 5 minute short. No way it holds its own for 90 minutes.
Even Yogi's Christmas special only got by with song numbers and the appearance of pretty much every character in the Hanna Barbera archives.
What about "Hey There, it's Yogi Bear"? I've been meaning to see that movie all the way through but I haven't gotten a chance since I was a little kid.
Anyway I saw it last night and it turned out like I expected: okay. It was one of those movies that my dad would take me to see as a kid, where I'd enjoy it and he'd fall asleep. I don't feel like giving a full review now but basically if you're a kid or a fan of "Yogi Bear", or cartoons in general, and don't mind the whole live-action aspect or formulaic kids movies you'll probably enjoy it. There was no "childhood raping" in this movie, it really was just the cartoon stretched out into a cliched movie plot. Yogi, Boo-Boo, and the villain mayor were great, Ranger Smith could've been better. Plus the movie comes with a "Wile E. Coyote/ Road Runner" cartoon at the beginning.
My mother is a Childminder and she took a 2 year old, 3 year old and 7 year old to see Yogi today. Even THEY thought it was shit.
You know a kids film is dire when even kids hate it.
What about "Hey There, it's Yogi Bear"? I've been meaning to see that movie all the way through but I haven't gotten a chance since I was a little kid.
Anyway I saw it last night and it turned out like I expected: okay. It was one of those movies that my dad would take me to see as a kid, where I'd enjoy it and he'd fall asleep. I don't feel like giving a full review now but basically if you're a kid or a fan of "Yogi Bear", or cartoons in general, and don't mind the whole live-action aspect or formulaic kids movies you'll probably enjoy it. There was no "childhood raping" in this movie, it really was just the cartoon stretched out into a cliched movie plot. Yogi, Boo-Boo, and the villain mayor were great, Ranger Smith could've been better. Plus the movie comes with a "Wile E. Coyote/ Road Runner" cartoon at the beginning.
Oh I think two of the three movies with Yogi are prety horrid.