- Nintendo announced a new Wii exclusive RPG XenoBlade, which is being developed by the Xenogears and Xenosaga creator Monolith Soft.
Pick one thing and stick with it guys. Either that or make sure your work is good enough to garner a following before leaving hungry fans clinging to the edge of a cliff.
Maybe they'll get it right THIS time.
I don't remember gears being short, although it has been ten years since I played it. Or are you talking about the saga games?
I don't remember gears being short
Xenogears is just behind Grandia in longest main story RPG I've ever played.
What I mean is, they have a grand sweeping idea and they:
A. Either rush it or don't put enough money into it and wind up with something akin to the infamous 'Disc 2'.
or
B. Take this grand idea for a multi-title series and abort it because no one really buys it.
As much as I wouldn't mind playing this on the Wii…I'm too lazy to turn mine on -_-;
Ah well I'll prob. get it if it interests me.
What I mean is, they have a grand sweeping idea and they:
A. Either rush it or don't put enough money into it and wind up with something akin to the infamous 'Disc 2'.
or
B. Take this grand idea for a multi-title series and abort it because no one really buys it.
Ah, I see what you mean. Well I'm assuming nintendo is putting a decent amount of money behind this to try and shore up the wii in japan, and they haven't put "part 1" at the end of it, so hopefully it'll be a well funded standalone game.
I'm assuming this game is "monado", so it's been in development for at least seven months(and was looking quite far along at the last E3, so hopefully it's not rushed either.
^Wikipedia states it was called Monado.
Temporary Title- Monado: Beginning of the World
That's what scares me.
I just found out yesterday while reading around that Xenosaga was actually only half complete, and there was intended to be 6 games. I bought the first and second game for $5 each several years ago, got a good 20 hours or so into the first and it seems pretty good. But like a lot of my RPGs, I abandoned it years ago after a frustrating boss fight. XD
I loved the shit outta Xenogears. THe second disc did feel pretty rushed… but it also allowed you to go to the world map and complete sidequests before the final dungeon. However, compared to the pacing of disc 1, 2 just had a different feel to it that didn't sit right with me at first. The game was still a great story.
Xenosaga pissed me off in many ways. Not only did I just dislike it.... but it wasn't tied to the game I fell in love with years before. it was just a couple nods... basically a bunch of recycled names.
WHen I heard the title, Xenosaga... episode 1 I was literally stoked!! Because there is soo much back story to Gears... and the fact that when you beat the damn game the final closing title calls it "XenoGears: Episode 5"
...so given that saga was titled with "episodes" you can see why I was excited.
but alas
"XenoGears: Episode 5"
Exactly. They might just as well have twisted the knife while it was in there.
Both THIS and Chrono.
Get your shit together developers. Give the people what they want.
I started playing Xenogears about a year ago. It was all fine and dandy until Disc 2.
From then on there it was simply a series of partially completed boss fights and dungeons forcibly strung together by these little summaries explaining what story sequences we might have seen if only square hadn't run out of money.
I was promptly turned off and I've still yet to finish it.
If they ever remake this game, it would be in their best interest to fish out their old development notes and complete it properly.
Star Ocean 3's second disc is the exact same way. Dammit, that game was great up until that point! Shame I can never bring myself to finish it.
I though they can't actually do Perfect Works because of Square Enix. I personally would love for the original idea to come to be, culminating in a full remake of 'gears.
…it's just a title.
And by 'scares me' I don't mean it keeps me up at night, rather it indicates a series.
…again...
And a series of these things is only fun if they finish them. Otherwise you waste hours just to get their half-assed ending.
Then on the other hand, you wait for years to see whether they'll complete the series or not and when they do, you've got like 4-6 40+ hour RPGs to complete laying on the table whilst Metal Gear Soliquifis 6 is coming out with God of Modern-War 2 and Final Fantasy 7-3.
This wouldn't have bothered me when I was 15 but now that I'm almost 27 and finding my time in front of the tv trying because it takes me away from my wife, these predicaments become frustrating. Normally it wouldn't be a big deal.
But...considering their track record with this specific 'series'....
Exactly. They might just as well have twisted the knife while it was in there.
Both THIS and Chrono.
Get your shit together developers. Give the people what they want.
Evidentally you haven't played Ogre Battle (or just forgot about it).
Not only is it not done, but the first game (March of the Black Queen) is Episode 5. The next game they released? Episode 7. Then, Ogre Battle 64 came out. That was episode 6.
Where are the ones before 5? Canceled. No Joke.
When Square bought Quest out, all Ogre Battle titles were "canceled" and it just so happened to have started the Final Fantasy Tactics series (Ogre Battle team shifted to those games).
I tried it and didn't get it.
I then attempted FF Tactics when I was older and it frustrated me to all hell.
It's no fun when random encounters take 7 minutes and end up with you dying.
That of course has to do with my approach to SRPGs which is evidently in the same boat as attempting a stroll in the arctic in a thong.
That said though, I feel your pain and sympathize with you.
^
Needless to say I haven't tried out Final Fatasy Tactics yet.
Yeah, I'm not usually a big SRPG fan either. Sometimes they can get way to complex where it isn't even fun anymore.
And by 'scares me' I don't mean it keeps me up at night, rather it indicates a series.
…again...
And a series of these things is only fun if they finish them. Otherwise you waste hours just to get their half-assed ending.
I usually don't give a crap about stories in RPGs, and I hardly give a crap if it's a series; if the gameplay is to my liking, the story can be about Beethoven living in a dream reality he wants to turn to a reality, and I wouldn't give 2 fucks about it.
Furthermore, how do you know it's gonna be a series? When the game was called Monado, did you give a damn about the game during it's early reveal or the title?
Then on the other hand, you wait for years to see whether they'll complete the series or not and when they do, you've got like 4-6 40+ hour RPGs to complete laying on the table whilst Metal Gear Soliquifis 6 is coming out with God of Modern-War 2 and Final Fantasy 7-3.
I already have a ton of stuff piled up for me to read, watch and/or play, and that pile ain't getting any smaller ^o^
This wouldn't have bothered me when I was 15 but now that I'm almost 27 and finding my time in front of the tv trying because it takes me away from my wife, these predicaments become frustrating. Normally it wouldn't be a big deal.
Understandable mate, I know you've got your reasons, but from what I can see it's just YOUR reasons. On the bright side, just appreciate you've got a wonderful wife and the whole video game thing won't be a big issue.
…unless video games are like toast to you...:ninja:
It's no fun when random encounters take 7 minutes and end up with you dying.
Your strategy was weak, no offense.
Really? I never thought FFT was hard. You just have to be careful. There's only one section of the game which gave me (and everybody else in the world) any kind of trouble my first time through.
Riovanes Castle.
Fucking Riovanes.
I usually don't give a crap about stories in RPGs
"Yes you do….you just don't know it yet."
Furthermore, how do you know it's gonna be a series?
Because it has a subtitle and 'beginning' is in the subtitle.
And it's from Monolith and it's adopted the Xeno title which to this point has been one attempt after another to create a game series.
When the game was called Monado, did you give a damn about the game during it's early reveal or the title?
I didn't know about this game until yesterday when I read its title at The Magic Box.
Nor am I complaining about…the game.
The game could be amazing. I don't think I've dissed the game at all. It looks super nifty.
I am frustrated with the developers and what it appears they're about to attempt again.
Your strategy was weak, no offense.
Oh no. Weak isn't the word I would use to describe that abortion of an attack I attempted.
The random battles weren't that much of a problem for me. I'd just reset if I really didn't want to fight or I'd use the opportunity to build weak characters (which I liked doing)
I believe I liked it better than FFT advance, it was easier to comprehend the system and use it naturally (plus I didn't have to deal with those annoying judges)
…holy shit what.
An associate of mine just cleared Xenogears, and we'd been going on about how Xenosaga was good/bad/whatever... and now this.
Graah.
I don't care what they do, so long as the game's good. If they want to do a series, fine. Just make every game able to stand on its own as well, and I will be satisfied even if the floor falls from under like what happened with Xenosaga.
Star Ocean 3's second disc is the exact same way. Dammit, that game was great up until that point! Shame I can never bring myself to finish it.
That was, hands-down, the worst plottwist EVER.
Way to fucking trivialize everything in the series, motherfuckers… >_<
この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。
second story was the shit. One of my favorite RPGs
I don't count anything in the series after that to be of any worth.
Although the Last Hope is coming to PS3 soon… and will include the original audio track.. hmmm
second story was the shit. One of my favorite RPGs
The used copy I had made it impossible for me to continue at one point but now that I have a burned copy there shouldn't be any excuse for me to not start up again. Come onnn MEEEE!!
Mildly related to the topic, Xenogears staffers had made this quite some time ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sands_of_Destruction
It's only now that's come out in english. Downloading it now.
Yasunori Mitsuda HELLS YEAH!
Scary thought. This is pretty much what I feel about the Suikoden series right now after Konami created Tierkreis. I dunno but I'm getting this bad vibe that Konami will leave the main series and create another one with the subtitled Tierkreis. It's been 5 years since Suikoden V came out, and yet not even a hint for a possible sequel/prequel so far. I really hope they won't abandon such an awesome series.
"Yes, I'm only bones, but that's because I have an interest… in dieting."
-Gentleman Skeleton Brook
^ Agreed. As awesome as Tierkries was. I'd like to see a new game.
Or if they continue with the Tierkries line, at least bring back the likes of Jeanne, Viki etc.
And for my opinion on things. Ogre Battle was the awesome. Although sadly never reached UK soils I played a ROM of it once. FFT series is good for a short amount of time before becoming pretty boring. Disgaea is the way to go if you want a godly SRPG. Then Fire Emblem.
You babies seem to have never experienced the utter GLORY that is Shining Force 3.
While I do love me some Harada Takehito art, it blows Disgaea out of the water.
Shining Force III Scenarios 1 - 3 are the greatest SRPG's ever made.
All about fighting priests and vandals.
That was, hands-down, the worst plottwist EVER.
Way to fucking trivialize everything in the series, motherfuckers… >_<
When ever I mention the second half of SO3 everyone replies the plot twist, I actually didn't give a damn about that. I didn't see a huge problem. Its just the game SUCKS upon the second disc, like they put no effort into it. The sudden transition from great to crap feels like a sucker punch to the gut.
If anyone reading this hasn't played SO3 but wants to, do it. Disc 1 is fantastic and totally worth it. You'll even get a good 30-40 hours on disc 1 by itself. However, just make up your own ending when the "Insert Disc 2" prompt comes up and move on.
I cant even remember how far I got into Star Ocean 3 XD I think I went back and got Albel and Nell (I think thta was their names.) and then stopped playing after.
second story was the shit. One of my favorite RPGs
I don't count anything in the series after that to be of any worth.
Although the Last Hope is coming to PS3 soon… and will include the original audio track.. hmmm
I can never play Claude's story because I have to have Dais in my party. And Ashton. And Chisato.
Poor girl has an amazing flamethrower attack and then it "upgrades" and becomes nearly useless. Ah well.
SO2 had a TERRIBLE story. But fantastic characters and gameplay.
But really, its all about Ashton and his horrible horrible luck. And barrel fixation. and his two dragons.
Dais and Ashton were the best.
Rena had the better choices. Although Claude had some great attacks.
The story wasn't the best, but I loved the private actions. So many more games need something like that.
I loved Star Ocean 2 when I rented it years and years ago. I remember liking the Dragon Head guy.
I keep meaning to buy it again for my defunct PSP but that would require finding the thing.
you can find it used at many gamestop stores…. in america....
*ahem, good luck with that
They have it in stores everywhere here. I meant finding the PSP. I put it somewhere and forgot about it.
I cant even remember how far I got into Star Ocean 3 XD I think I went back and got Albel and Nell (I think thta was their names.) and then stopped playing after.
Good man. This is what I did, too. Well, I went a little further, but I regret it. Sad thing is, I'm eventually going to have to beat this thing someday for my Backlog.
"Yes you do….you just don't know it yet."
Well, on the one hand, there are a few RPGs whose plot/story interest me, but for the rest- Skip'em!
Because it has a subtitle and 'beginning' is in the subtitle.
And it's from Monolith and it's adopted the Xeno title which to this point has been one attempt after another to create a game series.
So Monolith have been trying to make a series with a connected plot?
I am frustrated with the developers and what it appears they're about to attempt again.
An attempt at a series with a connected plot?
Oh no. Weak isn't the word I would use to describe that abortion of an attack I attempted.
Hmm maybe you'r right; I was playing Agarest yesterday and the giant red chicken boss raped my ass; if it weren't for that Limit Break-like attack my main character got I would've spent a few hours grinding for a better chance at surviving that fowl. So I guess the enemy's exaggerated strength may be another reason? Mind you that battle lasted 10-ish mins. and even if I lost, I could always try again…after a few hours. ^o^
Apologies if any of my comments seem offensive/rude BTW:ninja:
Well, on the one hand, there are a few RPGs whose plot/story interest me, but for the rest- Skip'em!
So Monolith have been trying to make a series with a connected plot?
An attempt at a series with a connected plot?
Hmm maybe you'r right; I was playing Agarest yesterday and the giant red chicken boss raped my ass; if it weren't for that Limit Break-like attack my main character got I would've spent a few hours grinding for a better chance at surviving that fowl. So I guess the enemy's exaggerated strength may be another reason? Mind you that battle lasted 10-ish mins. and even if I lost, I could always try again…after a few hours. ^o^
Apologies if any of my comments seem offensive/rude BTW:ninja:
Everyone complains about that chicken 0.o I used a combo attack with all my chars thus far and took him down in one turn.
They have it in stores everywhere here. I meant finding the PSP. I put it somewhere and forgot about it.
I see i see, i misread your quote. You should definitely find it then. I've been meaning to get the second story on psp as well. Good memories
- "The world setting, story and other elements have no relation (to past Xeno games). It's a completely new title." - Xenoblade director Tetsuya Takahashi
more:
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=114618
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sees screenshots This is a Wii game?!
It seems Nintendo was quite smart with the names 'Xenoblade' and 'The Last Story'
It gets people talking.
But damn, this looks too beautiful for a Wii title. Hopefully it actually does look like that and wasn't rendered to be all pretty.
It seems Nintendo was quite smart with the names 'Xenoblade' and 'The Last Story'
Now there's a subtitle I like!
Well if you look at Final Fantasy….
I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Well if you look at Final Fantasy….
I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Of course. But it's not:
Final Fantasy: The Last Fantasy
:-D
Now there's a subtitle I like!
It isn't the subtitle, ,,The Last Story'' is a different game.
