Chapter 569 "Monster" Discussion
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The manga fell from 19 pages to 15..I expect Oda to return to the usual standards after the break come on…! The movie is over now.
I'm guessing he writes the chapters well before the day he releases them..so it's possible this chapter was written while the movie was going on. Not to mention he could of just decided that he didn't want to write 19 pages…human laziness also comes into effect.
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what about his arm??
At first glance I thought it looked too far from the rest of his body so I thought it broke off NOW I'M NOT TOO SURE. XD
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@Green:
I'm guessing he writes the chapters well before the day he releases them..so it's possible this chapter was written while the movie was going on. Not to mention he could of just decided that he didn't want to write 19 pages…human laziness also comes into effect.
If you've been reading the past and recent interviews with Oda, you should've known that the man's vocabulary doesn't include the word "laziness."
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what about his arm??
He lost his right arm, straight ahead from the shoulder. Aokiji froze him up, he fell down and it was broken.
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@Al!naJames:
He lost his right arm, straight ahead from the shoulder. Aokiji froze him up, he fell down and it was broken.
I think you mean his left arm. His arm was in diamond form when it got frozen. He hasn't lost anything yet. He's just frozen.
This is just so totally pissin me off. I want more from Marco & Joz.
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I think it also has to do with the fact that he needs to draw a lot of detail in this war, more than in previous arcs where it's going slower paced and with all the strawhat crew. I mean a few days ago I followed a link to a recent bleach chapter, and all I saw in the first few pages were close-ups of faces and some text. Very easy to fill more pages like that..
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Are you guys counting a 2 page spread as 1 page, or are there really 14 single pages?
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Are you guys counting a 2 page spread as 1 page, or are there really 14 single pages?
14 single pages.
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I'm surprised how pleased I am with how Haoushoku was expressed. We knew it was coming, but I'm not clear how he did it. It's like how pasta is easy for almost anyone to cook, but to do it better than anyone, makes the cook a top class chef. All he did was make Luffy scream at the top of his lungs, and yet, the last two pages were epic. I love Sengoku, Ace, and Aokiji's faces. Priceless. Maybe it was that.
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15 to be exact.
@Al!naJames:
He lost his right arm, straight ahead from the shoulder. Aokiji froze him up, he fell down and it was broken.
No big deal, he'll be fine. Nowadays losing an arm in manga is like doing a haircut. Soon nobody will remember a thing.
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I think you mean his left arm. His arm was in diamond form when it got frozen. He hasn't lost anything yet. He's just frozen.
This is just so totally pissin me off. I want more from Marco & Joz.
And what's that? Joz lost his arm… stop blocking facts. Kuzan has beat him, I don't now how Joz will survive that.
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@Kuma:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1548/jawsarm.th.png
And what's that? Joz lost his arm… stop blocking facts. Kuzan has beat him, I don't now how Joz will survive that.
Oh, come on. He might have lost his arm, but this is One Piece. He's probably not dead.
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@Kuma:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1548/jawsarm.th.png
And what's that? Joz lost his arm… stop blocking facts. Kuzan has beat him, I don't now how Joz will survive that.
He will totally survive~!
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Oh, come on. He might have lost his arm, but this is One Piece. He's probably not dead.
Yeah, but he's still frozen. I don't think he has a chance against Kuzan, he is probably his achilles hell, diamonds are hard, but also brittle, If they are frozen. Oh and Joz crushed to the ground probably he has also lost other parts of his body I don't see his left side on the pic, so I can't judge that yet. But it looks bad for poor joz… I was hoping to see some team attacks from him and marco...
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@Kuma:
Yeah, but he's still frozen. I don't think he has a chance against Kuzan, he is probably his achilles hell, diamonds are hard, but also brittle, If they are frozen. Oh and Joz crushed to the ground probably he has also lost other parts of his body I don't see his left side on the pic, so I can't judge that yet. But it looks bad for poor joze… I was hoping to see some team attacks from him and marco...
Yeah, I was hoping for some teamwork too. After all, they have fought together for at least 20 years.
But still, if Buggy survives being frozen then I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Jozu will too. -
the match up should've been reversed lol marco vs aokiji wb vs kizaru and jozu vs akainu..
but Oda is a genius. HAHAHA Merry Christmas guys
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@Kuma:
[qimg]http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1548/jawsarm.th.png[/qimg]
And what's that? Joz lost his arm… stop blocking facts. Kuzan has beat him, I don't now how Joz will survive that.
The arm that is visible is his right arm. In the previous chapter when he got distracted, it was his LEFT arm that got frozen, the arm that was in diamond form.
Just look here:
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-567/page008.html
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-568/page009.htmlLook at the left arm, the 1 you claim has broken off. Completely in diamond form. 2nd Link, that same arm was frozen, again it would have no effect on him.
I think we need to wait for a higher quality scan of that image, but I know I'm right.
Also for the record, if Buggy can survive being completely frozen as he was, then Joz will be fine. -
Oh, come on. He might have lost his arm, but this is One Piece. He's probably not dead.
Remember that dude from Alabasta? It's just a scratch.
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Remember that dude from Alabasta? It's just a scratch.
Exactly!
And Merry Christmas to you as well, Rori! :)
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It'd be kind of funny if Jozu falls, and is completely broken, but a stray magma attack from Akainu lands near him, and it unthaws him, and the liquid assembles into one big puddle T-1000 style, and when someone say something, he just says, "Nothing can truly break Diamonds" or some crap like that.
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@S.C.:
It'd be kind of funny if Jozu falls, and is completely broken, but a stray magma attack from Akainu lands near him, and it unthaws him, and the liquid assembles into one big puddle T-1000 style, and when someone say something, he just says, "Nothing can truly break Diamonds" or some crap like that.
That would be cool except for the fact he isn#t a Logia & diamonds cannot exist in a liquid form
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This chapters a little too busy for me. Man theres far too much going on compared to many chapters gone by, I get the idea this is one that may be more enjoyable in anime form. :-/
Still, Luffy's made the world give him a reason to take note of him now with his Haki.
its annoying this is what we're going to X-mas to though.
CLIFFHANGER X-MAS AHOY!
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That would be cool except for the fact he isn#t a Logia & diamonds cannot exist in a liquid form
I'd expect a Oda handwave on that, but yeah, I don't really know, just throwing stuff out. Of course, if Sand is considered an element, I guess Diamonds could be too.
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@S.C.:
I'd expect a Oda handwave on that, but yeah, I don't really know, just throwing stuff out. Of course, if Sand is considered an element, I guess Diamonds could be too.
I don't think so… Sand is an element and it's exists in great masses in the nature, like deserts. Same goes for magma (vulcans) or ice (arctic). Fire, Light and Lightening are energy. Diamonds are more like wax and poison, they exist in the nature but they are no pure elements/force of the nature.
And If Joz was Logia It would mean, that he can also create diamonds, but he hasn't shown that ability yet. Diamond-logia would be too hax imo. I'm sure it's a paramecia.
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@Kuma:
I don't think so… Sand is an element and it's exists in great masses in the nature, like deserts. Same goes for magma (vulcans) or ice (arctic). Fire, Light and Lightening are energy. Diamonds are more like wax and pison, they exist in the future but they are no pure elements/force of the nature.
And If Joz was Logia It would mean, that he can also create diamonds, but he hasn't shown that ability yet. Diamond-logia would be too hax imo. I'm sure it's a paramecia.
Well, you got me pretty good there.
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the match up should've been reversed lol marco vs aokiji wb vs kizaru and jozu vs akainu..
but Oda is a genius. HAHAHA Merry Christmas guys
akainu vs jozu would be over in 2 seconds. Diamond evaporates at temperatures above 3700-something degrees C, and it starts to oxidize at temperatures from 700 C on.
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@Usopp:
akainu vs jozu would be over in 2 seconds. Diamond evaporates at temperatures above 3700-something degrees C.
Diamond can withstand Magma without being damaged. Magma doesn't get as hot as 3700 degree's C.
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Magma get as hot as 700 °C to 1300 °C (or 1292 °F to 2372 °F), but very rare carbonatite melts may be as cool as 600 °C, and komatiite melts may have been as hot at 1600 °C
So joz should be okay
…........Melting Boiling Diamond 3550 4827damn firefox is giving me hell today
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I think that that was his whole point.. Jozu should be able to kick Akainu's ass. He might also be able to reflect the lasers from Kizaru. He really just got the worst setup vs Aokiji :/
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Magma still gets hot enough to oxidize diamond.
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HOLY SHIT…..Akainu's magma attack drilled a fuckin hole in the same spot squardo stabbed whitebeard
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Thanks for the chapter! Nice X-Mas gift!
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@Kuma:
I don't think so… Sand is an element and it's exists in great masses in the nature, like deserts. Same goes for magma (vulcans) or ice (arctic). Fire, Light and Lightening are energy. Diamonds are more like wax and poison, they exist in the nature but they are no pure elements/force of the nature.
And If Joz was Logia It would mean, that he can also create diamonds, but he hasn't shown that ability yet. Diamond-logia would be too hax imo. I'm sure it's a paramecia.
Well technically diamond is carbon, making it the only actual element so far that anyone's been made out of; even Aokiji is oxygen and hydrogen, making him two elements and therefore not truly representing a single element. Rubber is a hydrocarbon, meaning Aokiji is made out of as many elements as Luffy is.
I know you're talking about the classical elements, though. Earth, air, water and fire, right? Thing is, I just quickly checked up on them and lightning isn't mentioned anywhere. Sand could be argued to be air plus earth, magma could be argued to be fire plus earth but lightning, while affiliated with air, isn't really just a combination of a couple of classical elements. The only pure classical element Logia so far is Ace whereas in some systems of classical elements (like Hindu and Buddhist) Light and Darkness are elements, so Kizaru and Blackbeard could be considered in that sense.
If you're saying that simply being a force of nature is the unifying attribute of Logia, then surely Whitebeard would be a Logia with his Quake ability. All said, I'm just saying all this for the hell of it. I don't think he's a Logia either, but it's not like there's any real rule behind this stuff whether you look at it classically of scientifically.
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mr. 1 had a similar fruit to jos which was a paramecia so i'm 100% sure his is to why argue about such trivial things it's not science class to it's a manga
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Well technically diamond is carbon, making it the only actual element so far that anyone's been made out of; even Aokiji is oxygen and hydrogen, making him two elements and therefore not truly representing a single element. Rubber is a hydrocarbon, meaning Aokiji is made out of as many elements as Luffy is.
Well technically he's just ice, which is solid water (which happens to be cold). He's not water itself. The cold is essential to his powers.
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14 pages? This is gonna be a pain when comes to the anime, the whole war actually will be :(
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but 14 pages full of characters and stuff going on. The anime is going to have an EASY time of padding out the war, there's like 60 characters running around this thing. It'll be easy to get extensions of fights we're not seeing much of, reaction shots, or the new world captains doing random things, stuff with Coby, whatever.
Once the anime gets to the war it should have some of the easiest padding ever.
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@robbybedfart:
but 14 pages full of characters and stuff going on. The anime is going to have an EASY time of padding out the war, there's like 60 characters running around this thing. It'll be easy to get extensions of fights we're not seeing much of, reaction shots, or the new world captains doing random things, stuff with Coby, whatever.
Once the anime gets to the war it should have some of the easiest padding ever.
A whole filler episode devoted to G8 filler Jonathan, lol.
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mr. 1 had a similar fruit to jos which was a paramecia so i'm 100% sure his is to why argue about such trivial things it's not science class to it's a manga
The thing is that jos and mr 1 fruits arent similar. Mr.1 fruit is blade blade fruit not iron iron and is thus more similar to bellamy's fruit than joz. Joz is diamond diamond fruit thus isn't similar to mr.1's. About the feeling of the fruit and how he has used it is most similar to Luffys, who is whole rubber thus I believe that joz fruit is all diamond but isn't a logia. As well is joz fruit not like magellan's and mr.3 as they created their material out of the body but joz is all diamond and thus like luffy.
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A whole filler episode devoted to G8 filler Jonathan, lol.
Hahahah. I wonder how he fights.
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@Al!naJames:
I edited all the pictures so they show now properly, and added the issue cover.
Feel free to add this to first post ^_^Thanks for the thought, Alina, but I still can't get it. I get an error message.
Is there a chance someone could upload it elsewhere?
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@Al!naJames:
I edited all the pictures so they show now properly, and added the issue cover.
Feel free to add this to first post ^_^i'm getting nothing for some reason
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I think she may have removed it.
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Another chapter with just 15 pages? Where are the other 4 pages gone?
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I remember Oda saying in an SBS that the chapters released in Jump are finished 3 weeks before they are published… so it's possible that all these short chapters are due to Movie 10 stuffage he had to deal with.
I hope it stops soon.
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It will I mean 1 more week and it'll be back to like 20 pages again :P
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1 more week ? 3 more weeks I'd say
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i dont know if someone already linked,but here:
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/569-17/1