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    • Nobodyman
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      Well, there's only a few more weeks left of 2009, and as we enter 2010 we'll not only be entering a new year, but a new decade as well. As is apparent with our culture and customs, we tend to signify the decades of recent years as unique time periods marked by certain trends and events. For example:

      1910s: World War I
      1920s: The rise of swing and jazz and a time of all around prosperity.
      1930s: The Great Depression (how's that for irony?)
      1940s: World War II
      1950s: The start of the Cold War, the Eisenhower administration, the Korean War.
      1960s: The Hippie movement, JFK, the Space Race, the Vietnam War.
      1970s: Disco, Nixon and the Watergate Scandal, the rise of Feminism.
      1980s: The Reagan Administration, The Fall of the Berlin Wall, Michael Jackson.
      1990s: The Clinton Administration, the rise of the home computer and Internet, the glory days of The Simpsons and Seinfeld.

      So what do you think of the 2000s? How do they stack up to the other decades? How has it been for the world as a whole and how has it treated you personally? Discuss, talk, and reminisce.

      Personally, speaking from an American point of view, I think this has been a pretty lousy decade overall. I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it was pretty bad compared to the 90s. I mean between 9/11, the Bush administration, the war in Iraq, the collapse of Enron, and the economic downturn…well, it's easy to see why one could get disheartened.

      But hey, it hasn't been all bad. We elected our first black president, information technology has continued to expand, and personally I think the entertainment industry is as strong as ever (with some exceptions). So yeah, not a great decade (I'd say it was average to below average) but it could have been worse. And here's hoping that the next decade will be better.

      [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
      I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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        Shitty decade, both on a personal and national level.

        この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。

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          My 2000 brigade didn't start turning shitty until '06.
          People I loved/cared about decided to start dying that year. FML

          Originally Posted by Drake_Cloud

          He didn't come back because he thought he could win, he came back because he's a goddamn hero and that's what heroes do.

          ![](http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/Mokenda/website pics/OPsleep.jpg)

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            life was great until 08 , that's when I had to graduate. /killerbee.

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              i don like these recaps…makes me feel old

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                On the bright side, we have music at its finest yet!

                As we've moved into the digital age, it's not only become easier for smaller bands/musicians to be discovered, but more widespread influences can be shared and there has been quite a bit of brilliant experimentation.

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                  It really has been a decade of digital networking. Over ten years ago most would have still been fine without an e-mail address, a mobile phone or even Internet access. But nowadays Internet is a big deal. We have stuff like YouTube, Wikipedia, BitTorrent, social medias like Facebook and so on. It's a different landscape, a decade of nerds.

                  And I think it's been pretty awesome.

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                    Doctor Who came back.

                    May not sound much. But it had been off screen for like, nearly 20 years, and now that it's brought back,
                    it' consistantly one of the most popular shows in both Britain, America, and various other parts of the world.

                    They run shows over here in Britain about this sort of stuff on BBC3, It's called "The Noughties - Is that it?" - (They nickname 2000s as Noughtie, like Ninties, etc)

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                    I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

                    Originally Posted by Silvers Rayleigh

                    In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                      Computing decade

                      Optic Fiber, Hi-Speed Downloads, Video OCnference, Smatphone, Wi-FI,…

                      @Wagomu:

                      On the bright side, we have music at its finest yet!

                      As we've moved into the digital age, it's not only become easier for smaller bands/musicians to be discovered, but more widespread influences can be shared and there has been quite a bit of brilliant experimentation.

                      No way man !
                      Music at 2000s is a shit. THe real music lies in the 70s.
                      Not even mentioning the piracy nor the rap music…

                      Meet Da myth, Da Guy. Meet \m/ DA GOOMER \m/

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                        I hope my sarcasm detector's broken…

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                          Three Main Things to take away from the 00s.

                          The War of Terror
                          Rise and Fall of Reality TV
                          The growth of Inernet Media.

                          I think the one-ders will be the decade that define this century though.

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                            Overall, a TON happened this decade. Were most of these events good? No, but it certainly is an important decade.
                            I mean, the con side is pretty heavy, with the Iraq War, STILL no gay marriage in every state in the US, global warming keeps getting worse, turmoil in Israel, etc.
                            The pro side seems pretty light compared to that. While the first black president, gay marriage in atleast SOME states, and the overall increase of liberal beliefs among young people (and others, of course) are something to be proud of, it's safe to say that this decade pretty much sucked, despite the various technological breakthroughs.
                            Good thing is that with the way things are looking now, we might be in for a VERY prosperous teen's (economically anyway).
                            @Wagomu:

                            On the bright side, we have music at its finest yet!

                            As we've moved into the digital age, it's not only become easier for smaller bands/musicians to be discovered, but more widespread influences can be shared and there has been quite a bit of brilliant experimentation.

                            Definitely. Don't get me wrong. I love the 90's, 80's and 70's, but I think this decade has been the best yet, musically. Not only with the increase in digital music (and more bands leaning towards music being legally FREE; oh man, that would be the day), but I also think that bands this decade have really been exploring genres a lot more, and building upon experimentalism that was founded by bands of prior decades. I can't wait to grow older, so I can look back upon all the great music I've enjoyed throughout my life.
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                            Computing decade

                            No way man !
                            Music at 2000s is a shit. THe real music lies in the 70s.
                            Not even mentioning the piracy nor the rap music…

                            Wrong. Piracy is where's it at. Also, popular music nowadays sucks. If you actually bothered to explore modern music (which you obviously haven't; whatever's played on the radio doesn't count), you would have realized how stupid your comment was.

                            Oh, and on a personal level, I'm sort of neutral towards the Aughts.

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                              Mainstream radio started falling into the pits around 2003-4ish if not before. Now it's just horribly pathetic. I miss good radio ;_;

                              Pop culture this decade around definately took a slide in quality. Bad Beat pretty much nailed the most important points. Socially our greatest achievement was the rise of internet networking, there's has been a tremendous change in how we socialized from 10 years ago to now. That's probably the only cultural/social achievement we had, everything else seemed to go downhill this time.

                              Though like it was said before, with the internet allowing much easier discovering of hidden talent, hopefully we'll see a rise in the quality of entertainment with the next decade. I can only hope and pray reality TV is just a bad fad that'll fade away.

                              . tumblr . mfc .

                              . ask for FB or AIM/Skype .

                              . psn & nintendo id squeesax . 3DS FC: 3797-6626-6957 .

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                                @Bad-Beat:

                                Three Main Things to take away from the 00s.

                                The War of Terror
                                Rise and Fall of Reality TV
                                The growth of Inernet Media.

                                I think the one-ders will be the decade that define this century though.

                                There's been a fall of Reality TV? At every point of the year there is some god awful thing like X-Factor, Britain's Got Talent, I'm a Celebrity, Strictly Come Dancing or Big Brother. It hasn't fallen. It's just shite yet the masses still watch it.

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                                  There's been a fall of Reality TV? At every point of the year there is some god awful thing like X-Factor, Britain's Got Talent, I'm a Celebrity, Strictly Come Dancing or Big Brother. It hasn't fallen. It's just shite yet the masses still watch it.

                                  shows that all hit their peak 2-3/+ years ago. Big Brother will have its last series next year after the contract wasn't renewed. People just aren't fans of the voyueristic shows that boomed nearly 10 years ago.

                                  Also look at the controversy Strictly Come Dancing has had this year, it hasn't helped at all. Not to mention the phone-in scandals of 2 years ago.

                                  It certainly isn't the easy genre that it was 10 years ago.

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                                    But being fair, look at all the crap on TV nowadays STILL being commissioned,
                                    (Never liked Big Brother, but like X Factor, cus it's like an institution, sorta)

                                    Katie Price has her own show, Jade Goody got her own show, for being racist,
                                    Peter Andre got his own show, etc. I'm a Celebrity's back.

                                    X Factor & Strictly atleast are good in that it has entertainment value. Ad Britain's got talent
                                    was certainly not awful last year. I mena the whole Susan Boyle thing was a Worldwide phenomenon.

                                    Originally Posted by sanji499

                                    I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

                                    Originally Posted by Silvers Rayleigh

                                    In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                      I would say it has been a great great decade for television. TV shows are really becoming number one choice if you want to watch good entertainment, edging out movies. The Wire, The Sopranos, The Shield, Six Feet Under, Dexter, Lost, Arrested Developement, 30 Rock, Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, How I met Your Mother… just to name few.

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                                        X Factor & Strictly atleast are good in that it has entertainment value. Ad Britain's got talent
                                        was certainly not awful last year. I mena the whole Susan Boyle thing was a Worldwide phenomenon.

                                        The ONLY entertainment value is the god-awful people who come in and are chewed out. After that its just pants.

                                        I switched onto X-Factor accidently the other week to find two twins butchering Bohemian Rhapsody. Speaks for itself.

                                        I do admit. I do watch Celebrity at times for a lot of years. As soon as I switched on this years (which I believe has finished now) and saw that I recognised ONE person its kinda bad.

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                                          The last ten years have been disturbing in England. I used to have a large amount of pride for my country but after years of corrupt politicians siphoning away at our morality I only discover a bad taste whenever its mentioned, to the point where I almost feel embarrassed to admit I'm English.

                                          Its hard to describe it, but I remember when England still retained some of its innocence. As if our moral responsibilities have been brushed under the carpet to make way for this lifestyle of greed and dishonest wealth pressed upon us by the direction of this new age.

                                          I marvel at how fast the world is advancing technologically and how diverse our cultures are becoming, but at the same time I see people being desensitized to violence, countries still continuing war crimes and politicians lining their pockets.

                                          2000-2009 set the foundations for a bleak future.

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                                            Whaaaaaaaat? Maybe im on my own here but I have no problem admitting i'm english. The worst thing we have is the Charvs/Chav infestation. We've had some GREAT up and coming comedians whereas most other places (America especially) has seen a HUGE decline in comedy.

                                            America has George Bush too. Whom will continue to become one of the more memorable Presidents in history.

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                                              Whaaaaaaaat? Maybe im on my own here but I have no problem admitting i'm english. The worst thing we have is the Charvs/Chav infestation. We've had some GREAT up and coming comedians whereas most other places (America especially) has seen a HUGE decline in comedy.

                                              America has George Bush too. Whom will continue to become one of the more memorable Presidents in history.

                                              I agree. Michael Mc'Intyre, for example, used to be something like "The New Boy" - now on polls I've taken, etc, he's like people's favourite comedian, he's really moven up there quite fast. And yeah, we've got people like Judi Dench & Stephen Fry, and Geoffrey Palmer & John Cleese, and Hugh Laurie. But then again, American has people like Gary Oldman.

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                                              I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

                                              Originally Posted by Silvers Rayleigh

                                              In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                                @SMUDGE:

                                                The last ten years have been disturbing in England. I used to have a large amount of pride for my country but after years of corrupt politicians siphoning away at our morality I only discover a bad taste whenever its mentioned, to the point where I almost feel embarrassed to admit I'm English.

                                                Its hard to describe it, but I remember when England still retained some of its innocence. As if our moral responsibilities have been brushed under the carpet to make way for this lifestyle of greed and dishonest wealth pressed upon us by the direction of this new age.

                                                I marvel at how fast the world is advancing technologically and how diverse our cultures are becoming, but at the same time I see people being desensitized to violence, countries still continuing war crimes and politicians lining their pockets.

                                                2000-2009 set the foundations for a bleak future.

                                                Amen.

                                                It really bugs me how most of the corrupt MPs and bankers got away with it, scot-free (or at least with the fines), whilst a poor citizen who committed a minor crime (stealing a burger from another person) gets 8 months.

                                                Also, the British now officially own this thread.

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                                                  @SMUDGE:

                                                  Its hard to describe it, but I remember when England still retained some of its innocence. As if our moral responsibilities have been brushed under the carpet to make way for this lifestyle of greed and dishonest wealth pressed upon us by the direction of this new age.

                                                  2000-2009 set the foundations for a bleak future.

                                                  well do something about it then.

                                                  You guys all seem to be realising there is a down side to capitalism.

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                                                    @Bad-Beat:

                                                    You guys all seem to be realising there is a down side to capitalism.

                                                    No, we're realising they're being exploited.

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                                                      and more bands leaning towards music being legally FREE; oh man, that would be the day)

                                                      Creators gotta make a living at creating. This applies to music, art, and construction work.

                                                      Wrong. Piracy is where's it at.

                                                      Being a fuckhead is where its at.

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                                                        @IrishLuigi:

                                                        Amen.

                                                        It really bugs me how most of the corrupt MPs and bankers got away with it, scot-free (or at least with the fines), whilst a poor citizen who committed a minor crime (stealing a burger from another person) gets 8 months.

                                                        Also, the British now officially own this thread.

                                                        hey the bankers aren't corrupt

                                                        stupid and greedy maybe

                                                        but not corrupt

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                                                          No, we're realising they're being exploited.

                                                          all apart of capitalism my friend.

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                                                            That's really more Feudalism than Capitalism.

                                                            At least in principle…

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                                                              well Britain is still a monarchy so it does stand up in that respect.

                                                              Not to say that aspects of the pyramid have changed, namely religion but the idea that the workers are at the bottom stands true in both ideals.

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                                                                I'd say Yoska summed it up pretty well: This was the decade of digital networking/technology.
                                                                @SMUDGE:

                                                                The last ten years have been disturbing in England. I used to have a large amount of pride for my country but after years of corrupt politicians siphoning away at our morality I only discover a bad taste whenever its mentioned, to the point where I almost feel embarrassed to admit I'm English.

                                                                Its hard to describe it, but I remember when England still retained some of its innocence. As if our moral responsibilities have been brushed under the carpet to make way for this lifestyle of greed and dishonest wealth pressed upon us by the direction of this new age.


                                                                @robbybevard:

                                                                Being a fuckhead is where its at.

                                                                You realize who you're talking to, right?

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                                                                  @Super-Franky:

                                                                  You realize who you're talking to, right?
                                                                  [qimg]http://ander.wrzuta.pl/sr/f/8kpAAFny62U/one_piece_-shichibukai-_gecko_moria[/qimg]

                                                                  Nope. Pretty much the first time I've seen the name Bucephalus.

                                                                  I read scanlations that are years ahead of the current domestic release and get hard to find music tracks just like everyone else, but I support the stuff I like. If I get a copy of a cd of a band, and I end up liking it, I buy their next album. I love one piece, and I get the domestic releases as they come out. (and also a whole mess of other manga and anime.) Etc. etc.

                                                                  The attitude of outright "piracy is where its at" is just… I dunno. Self centered? Greedy? Criminal? Fuckheaded?

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                                                                    I want my 90s back!

                                                                    This decade has been particularly marred by the uprising of delinquent youths (A.K.A. chavs/yobs/neds/etc.) and the tragedy that is social networking (looking at you, Facebook), in which many self-obsessed teenagers (some my age, 17) metaphorically lose their lives in a pathetic and degenerative fashion (some tripe on that website is just asinine) - cyber-bullying is sin itself. I myself have been a victim of it, yet have never been driven to thoughts of suicide, as some have, unfortunately.

                                                                    … Also, the music does lick bollocks. Except some rock... And metal.

                                                                    And certain video game music too.

                                                                    EDIT: Also, Brits unite! raises hand for high five

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                                                                      @robbybevard:

                                                                      Creators gotta make a living at creating. This applies to music, art, and construction work.

                                                                      Being a fuckhead is where its at.

                                                                      Actually bands make very little money off of music sales and more off of merch and touring. The exposure they've gotten through free and/or illegal downloads has been a boon to them.

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                                                                        @Wagomu:

                                                                        On the bright side, we have music at its finest yet!

                                                                        As we've moved into the digital age, it's not only become easier for smaller bands/musicians to be discovered, but more widespread influences can be shared and there has been quite a bit of brilliant experimentation.

                                                                        I agree with the second part.

                                                                        But the music industry has been suffering throughout most of the decade. Music is no where near it's finest. Hopefully 2010-19 will be better for the music industry as a whole.

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                                                                          @Wagomu:

                                                                          Actually bands make very little money off of music sales and more off of merch and touring. The exposure they've gotten through free and/or illegal downloads has been a boon to them.

                                                                          I'll agree that its easier to discover a band now through amvs or hearing a song on the internet, its how I discovered both Reel Big Fish and Bowling for Soup that way, and have in the time since bought all their albums. But I'm in the minority.

                                                                          When anything, like say a comic book, or an anime series, sells 3000 copies, but gets digitized, uploaded to the net and downloaded 500,000 times, and only one or two of those people becomes a new money paying fan, and fifty of them are people that once actually paid for it, and all the rest are just looking at it for free? Sure, its more exposure, but the bonus advertising versus the lost capital don't equalize at all.

                                                                          Nope, doesn't make cents.

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                                                                            how is that random?

                                                                            If it fits into the context of the thread it isn't random. Jesus.

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                                                                              The intenet mean I can share this with anybody I meet
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                                                                              but it doesn't mean a single person is then going to go out and buy it.

                                                                              …now I want to.

                                                                              DAMN YOU!!!

                                                                              この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。

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                                                                                I have no idea what you are talking about beat bad.

                                                                                pay no attention to the person who quoted me before I could change it behind your back..

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                                                                                  @robbybevard:

                                                                                  I'll agree that its easier to discover a band now through amvs or hearing a song on the internet, its how I discovered both Reel Big Fish and Bowling for Soup that way, and have in the time since bought all their albums. But I'm in the minority.

                                                                                  When anything, like say a comic book, or an anime series, sells 3000 copies, but gets digitized, uploaded to the net and downloaded 500,000 times, and only one or two of those people becomes a new money paying fan, and fifty of them are people that once actually paid for it, and all the rest are just looking at it for free? Sure, its more exposure, but the bonus advertising versus the lost capital don't equalize at all.

                                                                                  Nope, doesn't make cents.

                                                                                  It's quite different in the music scene, but it may just be the outspoken minority. Every listener I talk to pirates, but also buys the CDs and attends concerts on a regular basis. Most of the money on music sales goes to the industry, though. Michael Jackson made $2 per album and even that was considered an astonishing amount.

                                                                                  And there is something to be said about the fact that most people who take these things for free are people who wouldn't have paid for it. Most studies I've read on the music industry have discovered that there's either barely any relation between the downloaders and the music sales, that there's actually a seemingly paradoxical increase in music sales with the advent of downloads or that if there is a negative impact, it's very little.

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                                                                                    @robbybevard:

                                                                                    I have no idea what you are talking about beat bad.

                                                                                    nevermind the person who quoted me before I could change it behind your back.

                                                                                    serves you right.

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                                                                                      @Wagomu:

                                                                                      It's quite different in the music scene, but it may just be the outspoken minority. Every listener I talk to pirates, but also buys the CDs and attends concerts on a regular basis. Most of the money on music sales goes to the industry, though. Michael Jackson made $2 per album and even that was considered an astonishing amount.

                                                                                      Surprisingly enough, Michael Jackson actually had no problem with MP3s.

                                                                                      And most of the people I know are dirty filthy pirates who laugh at the idea of actually paying for anything that isn't food. 😕

                                                                                      @robbybevard:

                                                                                      I have no idea what you are talking about beat bad.

                                                                                      pay no attention to the person who quoted me before I could change it behind your back..

                                                                                      GOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

                                                                                      この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。

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                                                                                        @Dark:

                                                                                        Surprisingly enough, Michael Jackson actually had no problem with MP3s.

                                                                                        And most of the people I know are dirty filthy pirates who laugh at the idea of actually paying for anything that isn't food. 😕

                                                                                        Most musicians I know are okay with it and even support it, especially since I listen to a lot of smaller bands.

                                                                                        As for your friends, they probably fit into the category of people who wouldn't buy music, anyways.

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                                                                                          Wow, didn't take long for this thread to degenerate. I'm so glad I created it.

                                                                                          Oh no, wait! Maybe this is the answer. Maybe this past decade will go down in history as the decade of the dispute over music property rights, pirating, and mp3s.

                                                                                          [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                                                                                          I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                                                                                            I just got in a discussion about this over the implications of a new bill designed to thwart pirating, so I've got an itchy trigger finger here.

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                                                                                              @Wagomu:

                                                                                              I just got in a discussion about this over the implications of a new bill designed to thwart pirating, so I've got an itchy trigger finger here.

                                                                                              Proceed. I don't mind.

                                                                                              [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                                                                                              I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                                                                                                It'll be the decade that wasn't about the president getting a blowjob.

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                                                                                                  Hmm. Ten years. I guess this was 12-22 for me. Middle, highschool and college. Well I came out of it taller, possibly smarter, and with a degree in geology. I guess it's sort of the end of an era since I'm starting graduate school next year too. NOT TOO BAD.

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                                                                                                    @Wagomu:

                                                                                                    As for your friends, they probably fit into the category of people who wouldn't buy music, anyways.

                                                                                                    When did I say they were my friends?

                                                                                                    この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。

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                                                                                                      Idiots make the greatest friends, because they don't know how much you hate them.

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                                                                                                        @robbybevard:

                                                                                                        Creators gotta make a living at creating. This applies to music, art, and construction work.
                                                                                                        Being a fuckhead is where its at.

                                                                                                        The amount of money that bands actually end up getting under their labels AND iTunes is borderline jackshit. By buying MP3's and other digitally formatted forms of music, you're just feeding the fat pigs that make up the modern music industry. Not to mention, the movement to make music free (or be able to pay whatever you want for it) has been gaining momentum over the past few years. If the band isn't full of dumbasses (sorry, your shitty J-pop artists doesn't apply), chances are they'll end up making more money by selling their music using a "donations" method. It's also great for publicity.
                                                                                                        And sure, I'm all for physical releases being free, but digitally released music SHOULD be free (or at the very least, cheaper than what it is now). Bands make enough through physical releases and shows.
                                                                                                        But I guess this is all going for your head, so I suppose you should just continue not knowing what the fuck you're talking about and go buy some overpriced music off iTunes.

                                                                                                        hold on… Reel Big Fish? Bowling for Soup? hahahahahahahahahahhaha

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