Bleach vs. One Piece - Whose characters can survive the most injury?

[LKratos]

We've all noticed it in both series. Ridiculous injuries suffered by characters only to have them walk away scotch free.

A few examples

One piece

! - Pell surviving basically a nuclear explosion from point blank range

• That dude leading the arabasta rebel army being shot in the chest 6 times and living
• Zoro. Period.
• Luffy being impaled

! Among others

Bleach

! - Multiple characters being impaled multiple times

• Ishida having most of his internal organs destroyed
• Renji surviving his fight with Byakuya
• Loly and Menoly literally being destroyed (albeit healed by orihime)
• Orihime healing ANYTHING (cept when Ichigo has to have a hollow hole in order to awaken his inner hollow)
• We all know Hiyori is going to survive being cut in half

So which series is worse in what they make their characters able to survive through?

[Zyordius]

Isn't there a no vs. thread rule?

[LKratos]

Er….shit....I didn't know there was.

My sincerest apologies, mods. Go ahead and delete this then I suppose.

[Lordzeb]

that wasn't a nuke in OP

[Phoenix Zoan]

Bleach wins thanks to the big breasted Senzu bean.

[y2kyle89]

@Phoenix:

Bleach wins thanks to the big breasted Senzu bean.

The problem with that is they survive because they have sick magic heals, rather than with band-aids and determination.

also, inb4lock

[Roz the Zen Nada]

One Piece by far.

[Robby]

Pell took a city destroying blast to the face and was fine.

OP, most on that example.

Barring that example, Bleach characters tend to have a few more gallons of blood. And most of their POWERUPS require DYING.

And as noted, they have a magical deus ex machina time reversal/healing big breasted chick, so, they've got that out.

[Dark Lord Zenigame]

I would have said One Piece, but nobody in that series has managed to come back from having their heads blasted off.

[Robby]

@Dark:

I would have said One Piece, but nobody in that series has managed to come back from having their heads blasted off.

Except Crocodile, Ace, Enel, Smoker, Aokiji and Kizaru.

And Buggy.

And some of Law's victims.

And the Tenryubiito slaves with explosive collars that survive them exploding anyway.

[Phoenix Zoan]

Hiyori got chopped in half. She'll survive. So Bleach will be the undisputed champion.

[choperman]

@robbybevard:

Except Crocodile, Ace, Enel, Smoker, Aokiji and Kizaru.

And Buggy.

And some of Law's victims.

And the Tenryubiito slaves with explosive collars that survive them exploding anyway.

HA! nice you totally turned that around

[Airflow101]

Bleach tbh. Gaping holes through the body, people chopped in half, massive explosions and beams. One Piece has a few impalings and that horrible "Pell can survive a nuke gaiz" but Bleach has more consistency.

[Ivotas]

@robbybevard:

Pell took a city destroying blast to the face and was fine.

You too my friend robby? :wassat:

[Shandian]

I too disliked Pell's survival but I thought he was more like guardian 'spirit' of Arabasta so he could be bit special, and he was bird and he could use expanding shockwave to carry himself out of the blastwave.

But yeah Pell's survival was unnecessary.

But I voted Bleach because guys get cut half and blown aparts but still survive…

[master-g]

The choice is only one and it can only be Bleach. The thing is… Bleach characters are only slightly injuried after being slashed or stabbed with blades. Damn, people use to die in situations like these...

[Robby]

@Ivotas:

You too my friend robby? :wassat:

I don't really have a problem with Pell surviving, (though it does undermine all of Vivi's speeches about loss and sacrifice just a bit. She should have lost at least one of her childhood friends. But thats a totally different topic thats been discussed a million times.) but it IS one of the strongest attacks we've seen a character take on in OP, which for this thread, is a point.

Luffy took on Enel's giant ball of death, but he had the rubber immunity, so thats a cheat.

Also, Blackbeard and Ace both survived a giant island destroying collision of super blasts. Thats a more recent example that no one ever points out.

And Ursa shock.

And being hit in the face with a 4 ton bat.

OP has COMEDY injuries, which can be a lot more severe, but recovered from easily. On some ocassions OP DOES play the danger up proper, and its threatening then.
Bleach tends to play it straight all the time, but without consequence.

[Ivotas]

@robbybevard:

I don't really have a problem with Pell surviving, (though it does undermine all of Vivi's speeches about loss and sacrifice just a bit. She should have lost at least one of her childhood friends. But thats a totally different topic thats been discussed a million times.) but it IS one of the strongest attacks we've seen a character take on in OP, which for this thread, is a point.

That's not what I meant. I was refering to the taking the blast "to the face" part which in fact is something we never actually saw. Yes, he was still holding the bomb in the previous panel, but manga panels are not anime frames. Who's to say that there didn't pass enough time between those two panels for Pell to have dropped the bomb and tried to escape? There's no need for him to hold onto it until the very end if he takes it to a safe distance.

I know people have argued that we see a little dot in the center of the explosion but do we have any guarantee that this is Pell actually? It might just be the bombe that exploded showing us where the center Pell was so close to actually is located at.

[Robby]

@Ivotas:

I was refering to the taking the blast "to the face" part which in fact is something we never actually saw.

Oh. Well, thats just more fun to say, is all.

"And Pell survived being in reasonably close proximity to the aftershock of a huge blast" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

Mostly its a result of the scene playing the tension as if he were at the center of it, complete with noble sacrifice motifs and other characters being upset that he was gone, and delaying the reveal of his survival for several chapters.

But hey, Choji took a suicide pill and he survived despite al the butterfly imagrey. What can ya do, its Shonen. People survive things they shouldn't.

[Dark Lord Zenigame]

@robbybevard:

Except Crocodile, Ace, Enel, Smoker, Aokiji and Kizaru.

And Buggy.

And some of Law's victims.

And the Tenryubiito slaves with explosive collars that survive them exploding anyway.

Their heads weren't disintegrated.

It's like the difference between Bugs Bunny taking a shotgun blast to the face and Cell getting his top half blown off. One caused actual damage, the other didn't.

[Robby]

@Dark:

Their heads weren't disintegrated.

It's like the difference between Bugs Bunny taking a shotgun blast to the face and Cell getting his top half blown off. One caused actual damage, the other didn't.

Daffy has shown the ability to survive such a hit, but Bugs doesn't take wounds quite the same way, and is very adamant to avoid having Elmer or Yosemite Sam ever actually shoot him.

Given the premise of the hunter skits, and the fact that Bugs Bunny has NEVER taken a shotgun blast to the face… I assume it would kill him.

Cell getting his tp half blown off on the other hand, did nothing whatsoever as he regenerated 3 seconds later.

So yes. Bugs taking a shotgun blast to the face would cause actual damage, while Cell being blown in half doesn't.

[Ivotas]

@robbybevard:

Given the premise of the hunter skits, and the fact that Bugs Bunny has NEVER taken a shotgun blast to the face… I assume it would kill him.

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Sorry, but I simply couldn't resist posting this^^

[LKratos]

I forgot, another Pell situation is Ingram or whatever his face Mr. 8 is.

He was slowly drifting away on a boat, and a large explosion happened. On a small boat like that I'm extremely doubtful he could have escaped the blast, especially not knowing that it was coming. And he came back unscathed without explanation.

[MetaMario]

I voted for One Piece. I got to give Bleach credit though.

[Ivotas]

@LKratos:

He was slowly drifting away on a boat, and a large explosion happened. On a small boat like that I'm extremely doubtful he could have escaped the blast, especially not knowing that it was coming. And he came back unscathed without explanation.

Same thing. Did we ever see his boat explode? Not really. There was just this large explosion somewhere in the same direction where his boat went. But did it actually hit him. All we saw in the water was the decoys and the destroyed boat. It was never ever confirmed that the explosion actually hit him.

Though I agree that the lack of an explenation by the end of Arabasta was a very bad move from Oda. Not only because the fans want to know how he survived but also because it sucked somehow from a storytelling point of view having all of them be just "what you're alive" without asking him how he made it. It's a classic comic/manga element to request info on those little thingies and even get said info. Not one of Oda's best moves there.

[FireFistAce 0]

@Ivotas:

Same thing. Did we ever see his boat explode? Not really. There was just this large explosion somewhere in the same direction where his boat went. But did it actually hit him. All we saw in the water was the decoys and the destroyed boat. It was never ever confirmed that the explosion actually hit him.

Actually you see him immediately afterward, a little peeved. Then, when Vivi asks Robin if he killed him, she doesn't reply, implying Robin purposely kept him alive.

[Lordzeb]

@robbybevard:

Except Crocodile, Ace, Enel, Smoker, Aokiji and Kizaru.

And Buggy.

And some of Law's victims.

And the Tenryubiito slaves with explosive collars that survive them exploding anyway.

is that sarcasm…

[Solid]

I thought this thread was about the warcraft game One Piece vs Bleach… :getlost:

[Malintex_Terek]

OP's world obeys cartoon physics far more than Bleach, so the kinds of attacks that should be lethal usually never are, even from the strongest characters in the series.

I'd say in terms of surviving realistic damage, Bleach wins. Overall, OP…only because the world is built to basically ensure people don't die outside of flashbacks.

IDDQD