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    • K
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      I know one good detecive movie(other than the 007 stuff) and thats Chinatown with Jack Nichlson. What movies or tv shows, in the genre of Detective or noir are your favorites? The reason I ask is because I read alot of these two genres in graphic novels, I never watch movies or tv shows based on this genre.

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        You think 007 movies are in the detective genre?

        dear oh dear

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          miss marple…
          peter ustinov did some "poroe" or how he was called movies.
          sherlock holmes also has somegood movies..

          but most of them are older

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            Well, since it's rather clear that you don't really understand Noir, watch these three movies. They're all you need to "get" the genre.

            Noir is one of my favorite genres because it's so fucking classy and stylized with the greatest tropes of any genre we have today. Even a completely basic noir film can be stirring and edgy. Among the classics, the best of all time is "Out of the Past" with one of my favorite actors of all time, Robert Mitchum. If you've ever heard of a femme fatal, this is the movie that made it into the celebrity it became in American and French cinema. The lighting, the directing, the tone, all of these completely suck you into this fascinating tale of deceit, love, and mystery.

            And it's all on youtube!

            Part 1:

            Onto the French, Rififi, a Noir thriller with a fantastic cast that was basically thrown together over the course of two years. The DVD is a must, because the story leading up to this movie being made is almost as entertaining as the movie itself. The ending is superb as well.

            There's a lot of Bogey films you can also browse for noir influence, but there's only one (I think) that features both him and Mobster actor Edward G Robinson, and that's Key Largo. It's everything you want in a Bogart film with a noir backdrop, so it's definitely worth a shot.

            The French New Wave (which was often accredited to be kicked off by the likes of Rififi) also picked up on noir once it died down in America, creating a wave of neo-noir films thirty years before Hollywood. The most notable director of this era is my personal favorite director of all time, Jean-Pierre Melville. Although every movie he has made is an incredible achievement in cinema, if there's only one film of his that you're going to watch it's got to be Le Samourai. With Melville's minimalist directing, Alain Delon's moody but cold performance, and a haunting score, Le Samourai is one of the most profound and worthwhile pursuits that cinema has ever encountered. Please watch it.

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              Indeed, it's kind of hard to see what you want. Following on from what Palochka said I would also recommend The Maltese Falcon.

              For straight up detective tv shows, watch the following

              Sherlock Holmes - the Jeremy Brett TV series.
              Poirot - the David Suchet tv series
              Perry Mason (Raymond Burr of course)
              The Lord Peter Wimsey stuff with Edward Petherbridge

              None of those are really the hard boiled type except for Perry Mason(while gathering evidence) though. Although I assume from your mentioning 007 you're not too fussed about that(since it's not of the detective genre).

              Palochka, have you ever played Discworld Noir out of interest?

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                Bourne (if you like 007)
                Dexter
                NYPD Blue was really good before it was cancelled
                Umm.. Law Abiding Citizen, kind of.

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                  @Airflow:

                  You think 007 movies are in the detective genre?

                  dear oh dear

                  Why not correct me or add to the thread? Hes a spy, that's my mistake, but you know what I mean. Everyone ignore my 007 comment.

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                    Blade Runner, Se7en, L.A. Confidential, and Fallen. If you don't like those kill yourself.

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                      I agree with watching the Maltese Falcon it's pretty good. Does Casablanca count? That was pretty good as well. Can't say I'm really into noir though there's probably movies I've seen that I didn't think were noir.

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                        Umm … let's see ..

                        An Inspector Calls
                        Delicatessen
                        True Blood (slightly morbid at times & very dark but humourous)

                        Also, there's a very dark adult version of Sherlock Holmes being made for transmission in the UK (by 2010), by Steven Moffat & Mark Gatiss.
                        Hope that helps a bit.

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                        I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

                        Originally Posted by Silvers Rayleigh

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                          Well, technically John McClaine in Die Hard is a detective 😉 .

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                            @Flux:

                            Umm … let's see ..

                            An Inspector Calls
                            Delicatessen
                            True Blood (slightly morbid at times & very dark but humourous)

                            Also, there's a very dark adult version of Sherlock Holmes being made for transmission in the UK (by 2010), by Steven Moffat & Mark Gatiss.
                            Hope that helps a bit.

                            Delicatessen isn't a detective movie, and true blood isn't a detective series.

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                              An Inspector Calls, despite the inclusion of a detective, is also not a detective play.

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                                @Darkstorm:

                                Delicatessen isn't a detective movie, and true blood isn't a detective series.

                                No they're not. But Delicatessen is part of the French Film Noir genre. In many cases, An inspector Calls is also included in the Noir Genre.

                                And I just threw True Blood in there because it's very dark, morbid, and the first season deals heavily with a serial murderer and the residents trying to figure him out.

                                Originally Posted by sanji499

                                I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

                                Originally Posted by Silvers Rayleigh

                                In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                  @Darkstorm:

                                  Indeed, it's kind of hard to see what you want. Following on from what Palochka said I would also recommend The Maltese Falcon.

                                  For straight up detective tv shows, watch the following

                                  Sherlock Holmes - the Jeremy Brett TV series.

                                  the sherlock holmes tv series with jeremy brett is terrific

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                                    Kuitan the food detective!!!!!!!!!

                                    Anyone seen it? 😁

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                                      I like this thread, I'll definitely check out those french films Palochka recommended.
                                      I've been watching a lot of film noir and mystery thrillers lately for inspiration for the project I'm working on for school, and I can recommend a few films that no one has mentioned.

                                      The Third Man from '49 is probably my favorite out of the original noir era, together with the Maltese Falcon that a few others have mentioned, and Out of the Past.
                                      Angel Heart is a terrific neo-noir mystery-thriller from 1987 with Mickey Rourke as a P.I. that I was very impressed with. a lot of mystery and suspense.
                                      Clive Barker's Lord of Illusions from '95 was also pretty good and interesting. "Barker attempted to resurrect the film noir style, while merging it with contemporary horror so as to make a film with a fresh feel to it." I definitely thought he did a good job and it inspired me.
                                      The 1990 adaption of Dick Tracey is a pretty good detective movie with great costume and set, but it was a bit too silly for what I was looking for (not serious and dark enough)

                                      I really think it's interesting with newer films (neo-noir) that use the genre in ways that have an old school feel to it but still making it contemporary and mixing it with horror elements. it's what I'm trying to do myself, so I guess that's why it inspires me.

                                      when it comes to tv shows; Twin Peaks is the masterpiece of mystery television. other detective/noir/mystery-type shows worth checking out are Damages, Harper's Island, Day Break, Murder One to just mention a few…

                                      Feel free to keep posting more suggestions, I like this.

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