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    • Robby
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      @Green_vs_Red:

      I thought Pokemon was always on Kids WB.

      Nope. First WB episode was Charizard evolving, it was elsewhere for the year before that.

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        I used to watch Pokémon on Citv
        (a free-to-air kid's tv channel in the UK owned by ITV)

        The channel played several cartoons and shows for kids throughout the day,
        with a chipper presenter entertaining the viewers from a studio set between the episodes.

        I always used to sit down in time for him to say "AFTER THE BREAK, WE'RE GONNA CATCH SOME POKÉMON. Are you ready for that kids??"
        And I'd be like "YESSS"

        Ah, simple times.

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          NSFW.

          Like, REALLY NSFW.

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            The Ghost and Molly McGee got green lit a second season even before the first one airs a single episode.

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              Disney just considers the UPN Pepper Ann seasons as part of the third ABC season so it's the entire series on Disney+. With their track record for partial releases, wasn't sure how that was going to go.

              Complicating things since 2009.

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                October's 'AMPHIBIA' titles:"The New Normal" (SPECIAL) - 10/2"Hop 'Til You Drop / Turning Point" - 10/9"Thai Feud / Adventures in Catsitting" - 10/16"Fight at the Museum / Temple Frogs" - 10/23"Fixing Frobo / Anne-sterminator" - 10/30
                https://twitter.com/DisneyAPromos/status/1436157178860163080?s=20

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                  Disney is considering putting ads on Disney+
                  https://movieweb.com/disney-plus-commercials-ceo-bob-chapek/?fbclid=IwAR3LY_YisEc8cPXHGL_hEy9-N84bmolrfXO9f5G0buZvM10ak13qifKkZqU

                  Aw HELL no.

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                    Disney is considering putting ads on Disney+
                    https://movieweb.com/disney-plus-commercials-ceo-bob-chapek/?fbclid=IwAR3LY_YisEc8cPXHGL_hEy9-N84bmolrfXO9f5G0buZvM10ak13qifKkZqU

                    Aw HELL no.

                    This surprises you?

                    Originally Posted by Ubiq

                    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                      New theme song takeover.

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                        That little wink Andrias gives ❤

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                          The pilot episode of The Ghost and Molly McGee is out. From just watching the first episode, I already like this show.

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                            Here is the trailer for the upcoming episodes of The Ghost and Molly McGee. Also I want to mention episodes 3 - 5 are going to up on Disney+ this Wednesday.

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                              The opening for S3 of Amphibia was pretty good.

                              ! Anne had been gone for 5 months. And her parents are great. Andrias ordering the killer bot to bring a new book of a series and chips is just to sadistic.

                              Watched the first 2 episodes of Ghost and Molly McGee. It's nice and all but not the reason for such a big fuzz Disney made. They sure are up to make 50 songs on S1.
                              Besides anything else I gonna ask, is it common to give the attic as a room for your child in America?
                              I also cannot believe how close Mr. Shake's og VA sound's reaaaaaaly like the brazilian one. One maybe I heard about the Bible too much.

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                                Turning out a little more Indiana Jones than I first expected:

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                                  Some stuff just came out about why The Owl House is ending with a very short season 3. It mostly due the show not fitting the Disney brand. Which I disagree, since I feel the show fits their brand perfectly

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                                    Since Sano brought it up I'm gonna post the whole of Dana's statement. Well I was gonna do it anyway.

                                    I wasn't planning on making a post because it's too late for a normal s3 pickup and the real reason we were let go is not as exciting as some of the wild theories I've seen. But there's a bit too much misinformation so I hope I can clear stuff up. Also, posting here instead of twitter because this thread would be too long and too easy to take out of context.
                                    Why is Owl House ending so soon? Why was s3 cut?
                                    Was it the LGBT+ rep? While we have had issues airing in a few countries (and are just straight up banned in a few more) I'm not gonna assume bad faith against the people I work with in LA.
                                    Was it covid/budget related reasons? Every show had to tighten their belts. Budgets were constrained and episodes were cut across the board. But we took the biggest bullet and I wasn't given the option of a "season 4 when parks open again". They just wanted to be done with TOH and this was the perfect chance to do that. Even getting the consolation s3 episodes was difficult, apparently. Hard to say, I wasn't allowed to be a part of any conversations until I was just… Told. Wasn't even allowed to present my case. LOVE the transparency and openness here (this is sarcasm).
                                    So it was the ratings. That argument doesn't hold water either. Our ratings were GOOD (for a Channel show during the streaming wars lmao) but they were also incomplete. This decision was made, to my knowledge, before Agony of a Witch premiered and WELL before we were on Disney +. Also, how are you gonna judge ratings when you don't rerun the show you're trying to measure? Get OUTTA here you silly billies.
                                    SO WHAT WAS IT?! At the end of the day, there are a few business people who oversee what fits into the Disney brand and one day one of those guys decided TOH didn't fit that "brand". The story is serialized (BARELY compared to any average anime lmao), our audience skews older, and that just didn't fit this one guy's tastes. That's it! Ain't that wild? Really grinds my guts, boils my brain, kicks my shins, all the things. It sucks but it is what it is.
                                    In any case, there are still a lot of awesome TOH episodes left to come out, and all the support IS seen and appreciated. Not only does it support the crew but it encourages studios to take bigger risks on shows coming down the pipeline. And, who knows? Maybe there's a future for the Owl House world if DTV has different people in charge.
                                    For now, we have some exciting specials to go all out on.
                                    I'll be logging off reddit now, so I won't be answering questions. Just wanted to drop this. GO WATCH AMPHIBIA S3! BYYYEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
                                    -Dana

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                                      Wow that is incredibly annoying.

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                                        Wow that is incredibly annoying.

                                        So basically it’s on brand for a modern comedic relief character?

                                        Originally Posted by Ubiq

                                        I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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                                          Frog up

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                                            Wow that is incredibly annoying.

                                            It's more or less the Lilo and Stitch trailers but without the awareness that Stitch mocking those moments is what made them funny rather than it just being "famous moment + Stitch = funny".

                                            Well, that and not realizing how little interest in Olaf anybody who saw Coco in theaters has.

                                            Complicating things since 2009.

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                                              Sure, just take the one Olaf bit from Frozen 2 that people thought was kinda funny and milk the hell out of it. Instant cash!

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                                                Also, Stitch didn't talk in those and try to do the voices.

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                                                    A little sneak peek at one of the songs from Encanto (only first 1:00)

                                                    Definitely feeling that Lin Manuel-Miranda vibe.

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                                                      Apparently Alan Tudyk is voicing the toucan. So we have our Hei Hei for this movie.

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                                                        Damn, Disney must really like him. Hes been playing bit parts in so many Disney things latey.

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                                                          He's become their John Ratzenberger

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                                                            Disney's no stranger to finding a voice they like and using them over and over. Especially 70's Disney, they reused a lot of talent between Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Rescuers and Aristocats.

                                                            They had a ton of David Ogden Steers before he passed away. Beauty and the Beast, Pocahontas, Hunchback, Atlantis, Lilo and Stitch, Pooh's Heffalump Movie, plus the sequels and tv specials for those where appropriate…

                                                            And obviously before that they had Phil Harris in Jungle Book, Robin Hood, and Aristocats.

                                                            Pat Butram in Aristocats, Robin Hood, Rescuers, Fox and the Hound, Roger Rabbit, Goofy Movie...

                                                            And of course Sterling Halloway. Dumbo, Bambhi, Alice, Jungle Book, Aristocats, Winnie the Pooh...

                                                            And speaking of Pooh, John Fiedler who was best known as Piglet but was also in a bunch of other things. Robin Hood, Rescuers, Fox and the Hound, Emperor's New Groove,

                                                            They also reuse musical composers once they find some that work. Alan Menkin and Howard Ashman , Randy Newman, and now Lin Manuel Miranda... and if you leave the animated and go with live action Disney musicals the Sherman Brothers did well over a dozen movies for Disney including Mary Poppins...

                                                            If you want to go with raw role count, I'm going to guess (without actually checking) either Frank Welker or Jim Cummings hold that title since they've done background and minor characters for decades. Welker is especially called upon to do animal sounds and Cummings is a fantastic mimic who's been the official voice of Pete, Winnie the Pooh and Tigger for some time, so....

                                                            Tudyk is definitely getting up there though. Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Raya, now Enchanto... That's 7 out of the last 8. And obviously he couldn't really be in Frozen 2, so... He's definitely on the list.

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                                                              He was also Candy King in Ralph 1

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                                                                I'd also like to give a shout-out to Verna Felton who was in Dumbo, Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, Lady and the Tramp, Sleeping Beauty, and The Jungle Book.

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                                                                  @Robby:

                                                                  And of course Sterling Halloway. Dumbo, Bambhi, Alice, Jungle Book, Aristocats, Winnie the Pooh…

                                                                  Don't forget he was also the narrator for several famous Disney shorts like Suzie the Blue Coup, The Little House, Lambert the Sheepish Lion, and Peter and the Wolf.

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                                                                    Tudyk is definitely getting up there though. Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Raya, now Enchanto… That's 7 out of the last 8.

                                                                    @Conekiller:

                                                                    He was also Candy King in Ralph 1

                                                                    I'm quite partial to his performances in the show Star VS, which falls under the Disney umbrella.

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                                                                      Oh sure but if you start really going into tv series its going to get ridiculous because then the TV VA's are just going to decimate. Jeff Bennet, Rob Paulsen, Frank Welker, Jim Cummmings, Kath Soucie,Dee Bradley Baker, Grey DeLisle-Griffin, Tara Strong, Scott McNeil… they're going to just blow everyone else away since theyh've all done hundreds, if not thousands, of roles, many of them Diseny.

                                                                      I only brought up Welker and Cummings because I know they'd done some of the theatricals.

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                                                                      He was also Candy King in Ralph 1

                                                                      Someone needs to edit his wikipedia article to be more clear.

                                                                      Then in that case he's been in all of them the last decade except Frozen 2. He might well be in third place for being in the most animated Disney films.

                                                                      I checked though, (and allowing for miscount skimming, I could easily have missed some) Welker has been in 13 theatrical Disneys (mostly as animal sounds) and Cummings has been in 15 Theatrical Disney films so he's probably got the record for a while… though he's got the advantage of there being multiple theatrical Pooh movies that he was in. And he's definitely one of the kings of the Disney Afternoon. I don't think anyone can touch his record for Disney related output in the 90's.

                                                                      It does start to get fuzzy with some of the seuqel films, like Return to Neverland which DID release to theaters but it wasn't from the main branch and isn't part of the official numbering... but then you have the Duck Tales movie and Goofy Movie and the various Pooh movies... (but soem of the later ones were direct to video) stuff like that. So if you only count the numbered films, Tuldyk might just about be in the lead.

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                                                                        I always think of Sterling Halloway as the voice of classic Disney. I guess Alan Tudyk is becoming the voice of modern Disney.

                                                                        As for all VAs ever . . . doesn't Frank Welker win that because of the insane amount of animal voices he's done? Hell, in a way Tudyk is also semi-inheriting that role because of the animal roles he himself is taking on.

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                                                                          As for all VAs ever . . . doesn't Frank Welker win that because of the insane amount of animal voices he's done? Hell, in a way Tudyk is also semi-inheriting that role because of the animal roles he himself is taking on.

                                                                          Going by behindthevoiceactors.com, Frank is actually in third, which is amazing to me given how long he's been doing it.

                                                                          Dee Bradley Baker (the other go-to animal sounds guy) has 2,255 roles, and Jeff Bennett has 2,090. Frank Welker has 2,042.

                                                                          Fourth place? It's going to surprise you.

                                                                          ! Trey Parker of South Park, with 2,036. Tom Kenny is right behind him with 2,033.

                                                                          Then sixth place thhrough 40.

                                                                          ! 6. Grey DeLisle-Griffin 1,897

                                                                          1. Fred Tatasciore 1,596
                                                                          2. Rob Paulsen 1,328
                                                                          3. Tara Strong 1,320
                                                                          4. Kevin M. Richardson 1,257
                                                                          5. Seth Green 1,214
                                                                          6. Jim Cummings 1,211
                                                                          7. Mel Blanc 1,182
                                                                          8. John DiMaggio 1,117
                                                                          9. Steve Blum 1,074
                                                                          10. Tress MacNeille 997
                                                                          11. Maurice LaMarche 991
                                                                          12. Kari Wahlgren 880
                                                                          13. Matt Stone 853
                                                                          14. Phil LaMarr 840
                                                                          15. Kath Soucie 787
                                                                          16. Christopher Sabat 763
                                                                          17. Scott McNeil 741
                                                                          18. Corey Burton 739
                                                                          19. Brian Drummond 726
                                                                          20. Eric Bauza 699
                                                                          21. Nolan North 694
                                                                          22. Tabitha St Germain 693
                                                                          23. Roger Craig Smith 681
                                                                          24. Candi Milo 657
                                                                          25. Kirk Thornton 634
                                                                          26. Kyle Hebert 630
                                                                          27. Billy West 622
                                                                          28. Jennifer Hale 619
                                                                          29. Kathleen Barr 590
                                                                          30. Yuri Lowenthal 577
                                                                          31. David Kaye 574
                                                                          32. Carlos Alazraqui 570
                                                                          33. Laura Bailey 568
                                                                          34. Jess Harnell 544

                                                                          Once you see the list the reason becomes obvious. Some of the VAs are just on a gag show where they do a ton of throwaway characters. It's not important that they sound distinct at all, they rack up a massive quantity just doing Background Guy B and One Line McGee, and that inflates them. Things like South Park and Robot Chicken just given a technically new character to do every five minutes, they're not necessarily actually putting any effort into a new voice or personality though. Robot Chicken is the entire reason Fred Tatasciore and Seth Green are that high on the list, otherwise Seth Green would be closer to like, 30 credits. Anyone who was on Ben-10 did like 20 different regular roles.

                                                                          So that list is very very skewed by that fact but its the most comprehensive one I know.

                                                                          If you sort it by individual titles Welker wins easily with 645 titles, and Fred Tatasciore with 567.

                                                                          And if you go with short subjects only Mel Blanc completely dominates that with 9 of the 20 top spots including all the first 4 which vastly outnuber anything else..

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                                                                            Welker playing Fred across seven decades isn't just impressive for the length of time but the fact that you can pick any point in those decades and he still sounds the exact same.

                                                                            Of course the mere fact that he can do the Scooby voice without the r words and it not even be noticeable still amazes me.

                                                                            Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                              Once you see the list the reason becomes obvious. Some of the VAs are just on a gag show where they do a ton of throwaway characters. It's not important that they sound distinct at all, they rack up a massive quantity just doing Background Guy B and One Line McGee, and that inflates them. Things like South Park and Robot Chicken just given a technically new character to do every five minutes, they're not necessarily actually putting any effort into a new voice or personality though. Robot Chicken is the entire reason Fred Tatasciore and Seth Green are that high on the list, otherwise Seth Green would be closer to like, 30 credits. Anyone who was on Ben-10 did like 20 different regular roles.

                                                                              Trey Parker must voice almost every character in South Park then.

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                                                                                Trey Parker must voice almost every character in South Park then.

                                                                                Matt Stone has done 853 voices compared to Parker's 2,036. So however much sense that makes. They have two women actors to handle all the female parts, and five or six fairly regular guest voices that just do one character… who all happen to already be on staff as storyboarders or supervisors. . like Towlie or Token or Bebe.

                                                                                But again, its more like...5 voices each, and htey just don't care that 2,000 members of the town sound identical.

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                                                                                  Frank Welker's prolific animal sounds work has led to great stories in the vein of "we thought this horse sound was Frank for years but it turns out it was an actual horse" (see also, Welker getting credited as Laserbeak for decades until raw tape of the recording sessions revealed that it was Chris Latta making bird noises.)

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                                                                                    I had no idea about Chris Latta being Laserbeak. Thanks!

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                                                                                      Gotta say, I've always respected Matt and Trey for doing so much for one show.
                                                                                      The ordinary townsfolk, sure, I imagine sound alike.
                                                                                      But of the recurring cast, if I was bindfolded I could pick out each character by their voice.
                                                                                      I've always found it pretty neat that they could get so much out of two dudes.

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                                                                                        Gotta say, I've always respected Matt and Trey for doing so much for one show.
                                                                                        The ordinary townsfolk, sure, I imagine sound alike.
                                                                                        But of the recurring cast, if I was bindfolded I could pick out each character by their voice.
                                                                                        I've always found it pretty neat that they could get so much out of two dudes.

                                                                                        Not going to argue their talent but they do have pitch correction helping with all the kid characters which… is a lot of the distinct voices.

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                                                                                          Trailer for the new Proud Family is out.

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                                                                                            Missed that Papi laugh.

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                                                                                              I had no idea about Chris Latta being Laserbeak. Thanks!

                                                                                              I didn't either, but when I think about it now it absolutely sounds just like Chris Latta shrieking.

                                                                                              Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa

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                                                                                                I'm surprised Disney somehow put Lil Nas into one of their shows.

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                                                                                                  Well the creators of Molly McGee weren't kidding when they said S1 would have 50 songs.

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                                                                                                    Thoughts on Encanto:

                                                                                                    ! It was pretty darn good. A bit thin on plot, but that's okay, as it did tell its story really well. I love the message that having a "gift" can be just as frustrating and demoralizing as not having a "gift". The songs are good, but not especially memorable. And the animation, as always, is fantastic.
                                                                                                    ! Definitely worth a watch.

                                                                                                    [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                                                                                                    I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                                                                                                      How long is it gonna be until Disney tries another stab at a 2D animated movie, maybe not right now because of Covid and all but I could seriously see a huge interest in Disney doing another one, You'd get a lot of adults along with kids too, because people love to be nostalgic about things and the 2D animated movies were a big part of looooooots of people's child hoods

                                                                                                      I know it takes a lot more time and a lot more money to make 2D and it might not work for another studio but I feel like if Disney came out with a marketing campaign "that 2D animated Disney movies are back baby!!" it would set the internet ablaze

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                                                                                                        @Shiebs:

                                                                                                        I know it takes a lot more time and a lot more money to make 2D and it might not work for another studio but I feel like if Disney came out with a marketing campaign "that 2D animated Disney movies are back baby!!" it would set the internet ablaze

                                                                                                        When you see the quality of some of the 2D stuff they were putting out in the early 00’s up til the Princess & The Frog (and granted some of the 3D stuff wasn’t too much better) they’d need to have a huge set of brass to actually try pulling that bullshit.

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                                                                                                        I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting

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