The Great New World Discussion Thread

[desa]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

I have to say something: i just hate the use of the term 'Paradise' when people talk about the first half of the Grand Line. Because that is not the official name,altough the fandom chose to call it that way. The narrator said "Compared to the New World,the first half was a paradise". But i just hate the use of that term like it was an official name. I know,its just a silly thing,but i wanted to say it. I prefer to use the term 'First half of the Grand Line' altough its longer haha.

We have seen people use it in the manga. It's about as informal than the designation of new world for the second half.

https://www.readmng.com/one-piece1/594/1

[NamiRobinFrankyAce]

@desa:

We have seen people use it in the manga. It's about as informal than the designation of new world for the second half.

https://www.readmng.com/one-piece1/594/1

Sorry but i dont see anyone using the term Paradise there. I think the term comes from the time when the narrator says "compared to the New World,the first half of the Grand Line seemed a Paradise" when we see Urouge meeting the old lady in Raijin Island. The fandom chose the term Paradise,but i just dont like it very much.

[KageKageKing]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

Sorry but i dont see anyone using the term Paradise there. I think the term comes from the time when the narrator says "compared to the New World,the first half of the Grand Line seemed a Paradise" when we see Urouge meeting the old lady in Raijin Island. The fandom chose the term Paradise,but i just dont like it very much.

Actually…

https://www.readmng.com/one-piece1/69/3

[K. Kira XXIII]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

Sorry but i dont see anyone using the term Paradise there. I think the term comes from the time when the narrator says "compared to the New World,the first half of the Grand Line seemed a Paradise" when we see Urouge meeting the old lady in Raijin Island. The fandom chose the term Paradise,but i just dont like it very much.

Page 12 of that chapter. The pirates getting tortured by Kid beg him to allow them to "return to paradise".

[desa]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

Sorry but i dont see anyone using the term Paradise there. I think the term comes from the time when the narrator says "compared to the New World,the first half of the Grand Line seemed a Paradise" when we see Urouge meeting the old lady in Raijin Island. The fandom chose the term Paradise,but i just dont like it very much.

Hard to link on phone. Page 12. Pirate asking Kidd to be allowed to return to paradise.

[camey]

1 question guys,
the yonkou territory only at the New World right?
nobody conquer the Paradise part?
Because, sichibukai got theirs at Paradise (Hancock, Moria, Crocodile, Mihawk) also at New World (Doflamingo)

[desa]

@camey:

1 question guys,
the yonkou territory only at the New World right?
nobody conquer the Paradise part?
Because, sichibukai got theirs at Paradise (Hancock, Moria, Crocodile, Mihawk) also at New World (Doflamingo)

They only share the new world.

[NamiRobinFrankyAce]

Yeah,guys,again. Its not a "official" term. They just see that as a paradise. Those are the exact words in that Luffy-Sanji panel. "A paradise".

[K. Kira XXIII]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

Yeah,guys,again. Its not a "official" term. They just see that as a paradise. Those are the exact words in that Luffy-Sanji panel. "A paradise".

This page:

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[DooMinator]

First half is paradise, second half is a nightmare… seems fine for me..

[Galaxy 9000]

@K.:

This page:

[hide]https://www.funmanga.com/uploads/chapters/5404/594/p_00012.jpg?u=[/hide]

Plus this (minus the obvious Engrish):

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[Captain M]

@Roronoa:

According to Oda's recent notes/interviews, only the good ice-on-the-top-arcs are left for the end of OP.
And I hope Oda has not forgotten About "HighWest". It was only mentioned once though. But if sky Islands are restricted to just the paradise and NW, "HighWest" could be around Elbaf somehow.
Did Bellamy state how he came to Skypea? I remember he lost some crewmates on the way.

EDIT: this might have been discussed a lot during EL, but do you think that there is an area in the NW with Always night? EL Always had day, so there should be a place with Always night.
From an astronomic, Geographic Point of view, of Course.

Bellamy certainly did go to Skypiea and lose some crew. I'd be interested to learn more about that, especially after learning that a bunch of his crew members actually have names. Either way, there's a lot about sky islands in general Oda has left to explain. Skypiea could end up being the most interesting arc in the series to reread after all the lore comes together.

I actually saw a theory on Reddit the other day that suggested Borsalino was responsible for Enies Lobby, his fruit affecting the environment the same way Sakazuki and Kuzan changed Punk Hazard and Ace (temporarily) changed Drum. Honestly the always day thing seems to get forgotten a lot, but I'd say that's the best theory I've seen about it. And if that's true, and you do want an always night area, there's always Blackbeard. In fact, imagine the final battle starting with that. Luffy and Blackbeard stare each other down. Blackbeard smiles and that dark energy starts rising from his body, then all of a sudden the daylight shuts off. Just disappears. And then, the fighting starts…

Not to get too high off my own fanfiction, but god that'd be cool

[wolfwood]

@desa:

We have seen people use it in the manga. It's about as informal than the designation of new world for the second half.

I seem to recall Zeff mentioning way back in east blue that the first part of the grandline is refered to as paradise as well. Which in retrospect we now know meant that ol' Zeffer was most likely a new world pirate at some point in his life

[Roronoa Zacho]

@Captain:

Bellamy certainly did go to Skypiea and lose some crew. I'd be interested to learn more about that, especially after learning that a bunch of his crew members actually have names. Either way, there's a lot about sky islands in general Oda has left to explain. Skypiea could end up being the most interesting arc in the series to reread after all the lore comes together.

I actually saw a theory on Reddit the other day that suggested Borsalino was responsible for Enies Lobby, his fruit affecting the environment the same way Sakazuki and Kuzan changed Punk Hazard and Ace (temporarily) changed Drum. Honestly the always day thing seems to get forgotten a lot, but I'd say that's the best theory I've seen about it. And if that's true, and you do want an always night area, there's always Blackbeard. In fact, imagine the final battle starting with that. Luffy and Blackbeard stare each other down. Blackbeard smiles and that dark energy starts rising from his body, then all of a sudden the daylight shuts off. Just disappears. And then, the fighting starts…

Not to get too high off my own fanfiction, but god that'd be cool

I can hardly imagine Kizaru goin all out, and of all places on EL, but it's still a good Theory though.
Makes one think About Raijin Island and the Island Apoo was on (where a cliff was invisible). Looks like Islands where one showed awakened DF-powers.
The only Thing I'd take with a grain of salt is the "multiple-moon-Thing": what if that globe showed a "geocentric" world of OP? Then those other "moons" would just be other planets.
And I still wonder what the WG did in the void century to hide it no-matter-what. They've killed babies and annihilated a whole Island at least.
A reason why the SHs don't Need to go to the moon is (IMHO): Enel has already been there, dealt with the foes there and discovered stuff there. In other words, he stole the SHs' Show there.

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@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

Yeah,guys,again. Its not a "official" term. They just see that as a paradise. Those are the exact words in that Luffy-Sanji panel. "A paradise".

If you feel more comfortable calling it "first half of the GL", then please go ahead. Bottom line is: if one types "paradise", most fans know what one means. And it's less characters to type. We can even use the "". I just don't wanna use the term "GL" for the 1st half, cause that is the whole Thing ("paradise" and NW).

[Captain M]

@Roronoa:

I can hardly imagine Kizaru goin all out, and of all places on EL, but it's still a good Theory though.
Makes one think About Raijin Island and the Island Apoo was on (where a cliff was invisible). Looks like Islands where one showed awakened DF-powers.
The only Thing I'd take with a grain of salt is the "multiple-moon-Thing": what if that globe showed a "geocentric" world of OP? Then those other "moons" would just be other planets.
And I still wonder what the WG did in the void century to hide it no-matter-what. They've killed babies and annihilated a whole Island at least.
A reason why the SHs don't Need to go to the moon is (IMHO): Enel has already been there, dealt with the foes there and discovered stuff there. In other words, he stole the SHs' Show there.

More logia aftereffects or permanent awakening around the world, even if they turn out to be from a previous generation of ability users would be a pretty neat retroactive explanation for how dang weird the world is, if Oda does choose to commit to that.

It is totally possible the Ohara globe will never be mentioned again and the solution will just be that it was geocentric and that won't need to be said because there's no reason it would be anything else. I would accept that if it came to pass. But also, it's by far the most boring explanation. I would much rather a fun, lore-compliant globe that plays into the wider story. The issue of the World Government's Void Century actions needing to be more than just a genocide is one reason I like the idea of there previously being more moons. I think destroying moons more than qualifies as being a level above.

I agree that we're unlikely to get a full arc on the moon. Its too barren, too separate from the current driving factors of the narrative (Skypiea got away with being isolated from the World Government and the world of pirates because it was so early on, but it wouldn't be the same at this point), and the obvious boss of the place has already been beaten once. But we don't need to physically go to the moon, we just need to learn about the moon and how people ended up there in the first place. That's why I reckon Enel descending and bringing all the relveant lore with him as a smaller part of another arc is more likely.

[Roronoa Zacho]

@Captain:

More logia aftereffects or permanent awakening around the world, even if they turn out to be from a previous generation of ability users would be a pretty neat retroactive explanation for how dang weird the world is, if Oda does choose to commit to that.

I agree. Since EL is (or was) in WG's Hands for hundreds of years, it'd be cool if a former user of the pika pika no mi went all out there. There is also this huge hole, where the main Island is atop a 360°-waterfall. Would be cool if a huge fight happened there centuries ago. I also forgot to Mention that gravity-thing in the NW (the one Bege sailed into pre-TS).

@Captain:

It is totally possible the Ohara globe will never be mentioned again and the solution will just be that it was geocentric and that won't need to be said because there's no reason it would be anything else. I would accept that if it came to pass. But also, it's by far the most boring explanation. I would much rather a fun, lore-compliant globe that plays into the wider story. The issue of the World Government's Void Century actions needing to be more than just a genocide is one reason I like the idea of there previously being more moons. I think destroying moons more than qualifies as being a level above.I mean, an Argument FOR the multiple planets/moons would be the different races we met so far: minks, dwarves and Giants (just to Name a few) could all have migrated to the "earth" of OP. One of the many reasons why OP is superb in Story-telling is the fact, that Oda created a whole world without any "malfunctions". By now, everything is explained well or it's either not revealed yet. It doesn't necessarily Need more than this one planet to work. My bet is still that the gorousei once made a "great cleansing" after they shaped "their world".

@Captain:

I agree that we're unlikely to get a full arc on the moon. Its too barren, too separate from the current driving factors of the narrative (Skypiea got away with being isolated from the World Government and the world of pirates because it was so early on, but it wouldn't be the same at this point), and the obvious boss of the place has already been beaten once. But we don't need to physically go to the moon, we just need to learn about the moon and how people ended up there in the first place. That's why I reckon Enel descending and bringing all the relveant lore with him as a smaller part of another arc is more likely.

That's Right. IMO it'd be totally fine if Enel somehow tells the SHs/us Readers what's up there on the moon to give Robin more hints About what happened back then. I'll leave it to Oda on HOW Enel will tell this us/the SHs.

[Captain M]

@Roronoa:

I agree. Since EL is (or was) in WG's Hands for hundreds of years, it'd be cool if a former user of the pika pika no mi went all out there. There is also this huge hole, where the main Island is atop a 360°-waterfall. Would be cool if a huge fight happened there centuries ago. I also forgot to Mention that gravity-thing in the NW (the one Bege sailed into pre-TS).

I mean, an Argument FOR the multiple planets/moons would be the different races we met so far: minks, dwarves and Giants (just to Name a few) could all have migrated to the "earth" of OP. One of the many reasons why OP is superb in Story-telling is the fact, that Oda created a whole world without any "malfunctions". By now, everything is explained well or it's either not revealed yet. It doesn't necessarily Need more than this one planet to work. My bet is still that the gorousei once made a "great cleansing" after they shaped "their world".

That's Right. IMO it'd be totally fine if Enel somehow tells the SHs/us Readers what's up there on the moon to give Robin more hints About what happened back then. I'll leave it to Oda on HOW Enel will tell this us/the SHs.

See I could accept Enies Lobby not ever getting a full explanation because the world of One Piece is just like that, but any kind of lore about an actual battle explaining the hole and the daylight all together would absolutely make my day.

That's a really interesting point in favour of moons. I like to think it also plays into the minks' reputation as savage warriors. If there were seven moons its logical they could have gone sulong almost every night, which is much more fearsome than "probably no more than twice a month." Either way, you're right that Oda's worldbuilding is so fantastic and consistent so far we can easily trust him to have a good way to make everything feel connected and fitting.

[Critical_Mindset]

@Roronoa:

I agree. Since EL is (or was) in WG's Hands for hundreds of years, it'd be cool if a former user of the pika pika no mi went all out there. There is also this huge hole, where the main Island is atop a 360°-waterfall. Would be cool if a huge fight happened there centuries ago. I also forgot to Mention that gravity-thing in the NW (the one Bege sailed into pre-TS).

I mean, an Argument FOR the multiple planets/moons would be the different races we met so far: minks, dwarves and Giants (just to Name a few) could all have migrated to the "earth" of OP. One of the many reasons why OP is superb in Story-telling is the fact, that Oda created a whole world without any "malfunctions". By now, everything is explained well or it's either not revealed yet. It doesn't necessarily Need more than this one planet to work. My bet is still that the gorousei once made a "great cleansing" after they shaped "their world".

That's Right. IMO it'd be totally fine if Enel somehow tells the SHs/us Readers what's up there on the moon to give Robin more hints About what happened back then. I'll leave it to Oda on HOW Enel will tell this us/the SHs.

Enel found the way and he light and became a child of Chri… I mean the way of the D’s Enel for nakama anyone??

I think this video explains the Ennies Lobby whirlpool drainage phenomena pretty well

[EBRAHEM.EMADI]

Hello.
In this picture
http://imgbox.com/Tkq0r0Bc
What does that word mean?
Japanese version
http://imgbox.com/CvJAlMGH
English
http://imgbox.com/DzsC6kZD
Viz/English
http://imgbox.com/oXiFwjTq

[Kzmrlo]

This post is deleted!

[Captain M]

@EBRAHEM.EMADI:

Hello.
In this picture
http://imgbox.com/Tkq0r0Bc
What does that word mean?
Japanese version
http://imgbox.com/CvJAlMGH
English
http://imgbox.com/DzsC6kZD
Viz/English
http://imgbox.com/oXiFwjTq

seems to be just a kind of onomatopoeia for rumbling, presumably caused by Shanks' haki. The Viz version often translates sound effects contextually, if you're wondering why the same Japanese text is different in the right and left panels. Is there a reason you think it's significant?

[EBRAHEM.EMADI]

@Captain:

seems to be just a kind of onomatopoeia for rumbling, presumably caused by Shanks' haki. The Viz version often translates sound effects contextually, if you're wondering why the same Japanese text is different in the right and left panels. Is there a reason you think it's significant?

Yes.
I thought, at that point, that part of the ship was broken by Shanks haki
So I was checking these pictures to see if it was true.

[Captain M]

@EBRAHEM.EMADI:

Yes.
I thought, at that point, that part of the ship was broken by Shanks haki
So I was checking these pictures to see if it was true.

I think it's fairly likely it is, even if the sound effects are just generic rumbly ones. The effects of Shanks' haki are being talked up through the scene, and we saw conqueror's haki damaging the environment in Luffy vs Katakuri. So yeah, it's a pretty safe bet that was Shanks.

[sandman]

This topic has been already brought up, but In OP Stampede, official romanization of Raftel was revealed to be "Laugh Tale".
It reminds me of the lyrics of Binks’ Sake. Here is my compilation of interesting theories about Laugh Tale from Japanese fandoms.

The last line of Binks’ Sake lyrics says, “Never-ending, ever-wandering Laugh Tale (笑い話)”. The whole lyrics were created by Oda himself.

If Laugh Tale (Raftel) has something to do with the clan of D, “D” might represent laughing emoticons like or XD.

Characters who have “D” middle name such as Roger, Ace, Luffy and Saul have shown smiles/laughs even when facing death.
Saul left a strong message to Robin, “Keep on laughing when you are in predicaments!!”.

Speaking of Binks’ Sake, sake is known as Japanese alcoholic beverage. Shanks has a sword called Griffon.
Griffon as a mythical creature is said to defend treasures such as gold (as in Gold Roger) and Dionysos’ wine pottery.
It might mean Shanks will stand in the way of Luffy in Laugh Tale.

BInks’ Sake is a party song with many laughs. In Stampede, Bullet tells Luffy,

! “Abandon your crewmate who isn’t useful.”
Luffy disagrees and replies, “If I did so, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy a party anymore!” Luffy’s constant desire to hold a party might be related to his declaration in front of Ace and Sabo in his childhood.
Not only Luffy but also Oda himself loves holding a party. A few years ago, Oda was reported to police by his neighbors due to his party being too noisy. lol

Oda revealed in 2014 and 2019 that ONE PIECE as a treasure isn’t friendship or something like Wizard of Oz-ish ending.
He added that Luffy deserves a decent reward.

I’m looking forward to seeing Luffy holding a big party full of laughs at the end of his journey in “Laugh Tale” island.

*Although Oda’s involvement in Stampede is smaller than former OP films, I think it is safe to assume that Laugh Tale romanization is official considering Oda’s name is listed as a supervisor.

https://mythologiegrecque.pagesperso-orange.fr/MonstresEtCreatures/Griffons.htm

[RomanceDawn]

Man Sandman you got my head spinning! Thank you for all this nice info. Everything sounds legit! These theories are Romancedawn approved!

I actually wouldn't mind at all if Laugh Tale is what it was originally called and then as the name spread throughout the world and over time it's name warped into Raftel.

[kevo_koma]

@sandman:

This topic has been already brought up, but In OP Stampede, official romanization of Raftel was revealed to be "Laugh Tale".
It reminds me of the lyrics of Binks’ Sake. Here is my compilation of interesting theories about Laugh Tale from Japanese fandoms.

The last line of Binks’ Sake lyrics says, “Never-ending, ever-wandering Laugh Tale (笑い話)”. The whole lyrics were created by Oda himself.

If Laugh Tale (Raftel) has something to do with the clan of D, “D” might represent laughing emoticons like or XD.

Characters who have “D” middle name such as Roger, Ace, Luffy and Saul have shown smiles/laughs even when facing death.
Saul left a strong message to Robin, “Keep on laughing when you are in predicaments!!”.

Speaking of Binks’ Sake, sake is known as Japanese alcoholic beverage. Shanks has a sword called Griffon.
Griffon as a mythical creature is said to defend treasures such as gold (as in Gold Roger) and Dionysos’ wine pottery.
It might mean Shanks will stand in the way of Luffy in Laugh Tale.

BInks’ Sake is a party song with many laughs. In Stampede, Bullet tells Luffy,

! “Abandon your crewmate who isn’t useful.”
Luffy disagrees and replies, “If I did so, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy a party anymore!” Luffy’s constant desire to hold a party might be related to his declaration in front of Ace and Sabo in his childhood.
Not only Luffy but also Oda himself loves holding a party. A few years ago, Oda was reported to police by his neighbors due to his party being too noisy. lol

Oda revealed in 2014 and 2019 that ONE PIECE as a treasure isn’t friendship or something like Wizard of Oz-ish ending.
He added that Luffy deserves a decent reward.

I’m looking forward to seeing Luffy holding a big party full of laughs at the end of his journey in “Laugh Tale” island.

*Although Oda’s involvement in Stampede is smaller than former OP films, I think it is safe to assume that Laugh Tale romanization is official considering Oda’s name is listed as a supervisor.

https://mythologiegrecque.pagesperso-orange.fr/MonstresEtCreatures/Griffons.htm

That is actually a really amazing theory.
The only thing against it is that Law who is also a D. Doesn't smile much, or ever.

Also I have always assumed that Luffy's love for Partying was inspired by Shanks because its all they did at his village.
That's why he wanted a musician from so early on.
I don't remember his flashback with Ace having much to do with parties.

[Monquito]

@sandman:

This topic has been already brought up, but In OP Stampede, official romanization of Raftel was revealed to be "Laugh Tale".
It reminds me of the lyrics of Binks’ Sake. Here is my compilation of interesting theories about Laugh Tale from Japanese fandoms.

The last line of Binks’ Sake lyrics says, “Never-ending, ever-wandering Laugh Tale (笑い話)”. The whole lyrics were created by Oda himself.

If Laugh Tale (Raftel) has something to do with the clan of D, “D” might represent laughing emoticons like or XD.

Characters who have “D” middle name such as Roger, Ace, Luffy and Saul have shown smiles/laughs even when facing death.
Saul left a strong message to Robin, “Keep on laughing when you are in predicaments!!”.

Speaking of Binks’ Sake, sake is known as Japanese alcoholic beverage. Shanks has a sword called Griffon.
Griffon as a mythical creature is said to defend treasures such as gold (as in Gold Roger) and Dionysos’ wine pottery.
It might mean Shanks will stand in the way of Luffy in Laugh Tale.

BInks’ Sake is a party song with many laughs. In Stampede, Bullet tells Luffy,

! “Abandon your crewmate who isn’t useful.”
Luffy disagrees and replies, “If I did so, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy a party anymore!” Luffy’s constant desire to hold a party might be related to his declaration in front of Ace and Sabo in his childhood.
Not only Luffy but also Oda himself loves holding a party. A few years ago, Oda was reported to police by his neighbors due to his party being too noisy. lol

Oda revealed in 2014 and 2019 that ONE PIECE as a treasure isn’t friendship or something like Wizard of Oz-ish ending.
He added that Luffy deserves a decent reward.

I’m looking forward to seeing Luffy holding a big party full of laughs at the end of his journey in “Laugh Tale” island.

*Although Oda’s involvement in Stampede is smaller than former OP films, I think it is safe to assume that Laugh Tale romanization is official considering Oda’s name is listed as a supervisor.

https://mythologiegrecque.pagesperso-orange.fr/MonstresEtCreatures/Griffons.htm

Dude….

The Donquixote Pirates Jolly Roger is THAT ancient emoji the D supposedly represents but with a crossed line, the kind of lines we use for prohibited parkings spots, no smoking places, etc..
Considering Doula Mongo is a CD and according to Cora-san he kinda dislikes D's.. well.

[Monquito]

it just came to my mind that Pedro, Absalom and Yasuie all died within the main island of each Yonko´s territory. so.

who's gon die on Shanks party island??:ninja:

[RomanceDawn]

@Monquito:

Dude….

The Donquixote Pirates Jolly Roger is THAT ancient emoji the D supposedly represents but with a crossed line, the kind of lines we use for prohibited parkings spots, no smoking places, etc..
Considering Doula Mongo is a CD and according to Cora-san he kinda dislikes D's.. well.

That would be epic! What a theory! Subscribed!

[Roninof239]

People Forget that Ace was in the new world for 2 years With a yonko, he was a top tier pirate without advanced haki

http://https://twilightscavern.home.blog/2019/09/09/firefist-ace-deserving-of-his-2nd-commander-title/

[Candide]

@Monquito:

Dude….

The Donquixote Pirates Jolly Roger is THAT ancient emoji the D supposedly represents but with a crossed line, the kind of lines we use for prohibited parkings spots, no smoking places, etc..
Considering Doula Mongo is a CD and according to Cora-san he kinda dislikes D's.. well.

And isn't it weird that artificial devil fruits correspond with artificial laughing to a degree…

[Monquito]

Do we have an actual romanization of Lvneel? that one feels like the worst of them all romanized.

Now I can't take any word for granted, I'll question everything!

[Captain M]

@Monquito:

Do we have an actual romanization of Lvneel? that one feels like the worst of them all romanized.

Now I can't take any word for granted, I'll question everything!

You mean aside from the one from Oda that we're using? It was shown on the sail of Noland's ship the same chapter the kingdom was first mentioned, so there really wasn't a chance for any other speculative romanisations to appear.

[Monquito]

Seeing how Burguess, Shilliew, Auger and Pizarro are one to four in Blackbeards crew makes me feel convinced that their vs's are indeed Jinbe(1), Zoro(2), Usopp(3) and Sanji(4).

I just hope we knew more about Pizarro, but since he is from North Blue I really hope he has some sort of beef with the Vinsmoke Family that would pretty much comfirm his future fight with Mr Prince.

[Cockycent]

Was just reading through this Twitter thread

ch 627 for context

For those not clicking into that cancer, this is a thread about not liking Sanji and the example is from when Jinbei was giving some of the crew. history of the Sun Pirates and Sanji said that he can never forgive Jinbei. He went on to say that Jinbe should cut himself open and Nami says no because it wasn't Jinbei's intention. She says she was able to meet great friends from it and tho it was hard, it is now part of who she is, so she can't be resentful.

In this thread, they say that Sanji

1. Show respect to Jinbei because Luffy refers to him as nakama
2. Refers to actions like this as a character flaw
3. Says this is simp behavior and if it was Zoro, Luffy or any other dude, Sanji wouldn't react this way. He's only doing this because it's a female

Now I want to clearly say that I disagree with all of these points for this Jinbei example.

1. Jinbei felt responsible because he indirectly caused this by becoming Warlord and letting Arlong be free. He intended to stop Arlong, but Arlong stifled info of his wickedness through funds. It's not only that Jinbei feels responsible, he kind of is responsible. He could've stopped Arlong and Cocoyashi wouldn't had gone through all of that mess. It's a "am I my brother's keeper" kind of situation. Arlong did this, but Sanji isn't wrong for seeing that Jinbei is heavily connected to Nami's suffering.

This is the same Sanji that has almost sacrificed himself for Luffy with Kuma, WCI arc and even in Baratie arc. It would be inconsistent for Sanji to not be this dramatic over a loved one's suffering.

2. Every crew member has their own mind. How is it that because Luffy respects someone, the rest of the crew should disregard any thought or feeling and fall in line? That's what I think when I see "have some respect for your captain's friend". I've seen Luffy say "I want ____ as a nakama" and the crew be against it. How many times have different crew members disagreed with Luffy? Is Sanji supposed to suppress his feelings because Jinbei helped Luffy?

3. I suspect this is the usual Sanji hate train. I'm a Zoro fan and see the Sanji hate all of the time. Sanji can't be vulnerable, make bad choices or have a strong disposition without there being a "this is why I hate Sanji". In this example, Sanji isn't "wrong" for strongly hating Jinbei for Nami's pain. How could he be wrong when even Jinbei strongly felt responsible? Jinbei is honorable.

[Roronoa Zacho]

I always saw Arlong as mini-shichibukai the way he worked together with corrupted marines.
He did that on a small scale, what the real shichibukai did on a bigger scale. However, Arlong's crimes have never been approved by the WG.
And I am glad the "Laugh Tale and the "D." could be a smile-emoji"-stuff gets positive Feedback.

[Monquito]

@Captain:

You mean aside from the one from Oda that we're using? It was shown on the sail of Noland's ship the same chapter the kingdom was first mentioned, so there really wasn't a chance for any other speculative romanisations to appear.

eeeh, I still want to choose to believe that´s some kind of mistake.

it's just too damn hard to pronounce it in normal conversations.

[Captain M]

@Monquito:

eeeh, I still want to choose to believe that´s some kind of mistake.

it's just too damn hard to pronounce it in normal conversations.

Yeah look I'm the last person to advocate taking Oda's romanisations at face value, but this one is so far from pronouncable English that I think it has to be deliberate. It looks like something taken from another language entirely, but I don't have the etymology chops to work out exactly which one. Maybe something from the area of Russia, given how the castle there is designed…

[NamiRobinFrankyAce]

By the way,it must have happened something really bad to Alabasta,to make Marines 'dont care' about the Kaido-Big Mom alliance. I mean,two Yonkou working together to take down the world,and Marine do nothing? The 'other thing' apart from arresting the Shichibukai,must be something really big. So big that maybe another Yonkou is involved…is Shanks involved with whatever happened with Alabasta?

[Cockycent]

Both in the same volume

I know this is sudden, but I have a question for Odacchi.

Why is it that there is an abnormally extensive number of characters in One Piece who have unknown or already deceased mothers? P.N. Navy Blue

O: I see. Well. The answer is simple.

That's because "Mother" is the antonym for "Adventure".

*Please don't write that on a test

We realized that Robin has huge breasts.

We checked from the side, and Nami also has huge breasts.

Why do they both have such huge breasts?

And could it be Oda-san's preference?

That was a question from us two 10-year-olds. P.N. Sakucchan & Yuzu-chan

O: I keep saying this, but I'm just bringing the young boys' dreams to life! All of humanity on earth! I command your breasts to grow~!

[Monquito]

All this haki abilities Luffy's been gaining are going to be super useful against Teach.

Since Teach could simply deactivate any of Luffy's gears at any time.

[NamiRobinFrankyAce]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

By the way,it must have happened something really bad to Alabasta,to make Marines 'dont care' about the Kaido-Big Mom alliance. I mean,two Yonkou working together to take down the world,and Marine do nothing? The 'other thing' apart from arresting the Shichibukai,must be something really big. So big that maybe another Yonkou is involved…is Shanks involved with whatever happened with Alabasta?

I'll be clearer about this,considering the fact that we have more free time without the chapter this week. I dont think Shanks attacked Alabasta,but Shanks might be involved with that event because he went there to fight against the person or the group of people who attacked Alabasta. There must be someone important involved to justify the fact that the Marines says that they dont have enough forces to take care of the Kaido-Big Mom alliance. Arresting the Warlords isnt enough to make them without men to send to Wano.
(Its also true that probably someone from Marine will actually arrive to Wano in the end,but so far they dont want to. We will surely know more about this during the chapters between Act 3 and Act 4).

[Lord of Chaos]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

I'll be clearer about this,considering the fact that we have more free time without the chapter this week. I dont think Shanks attacked Alabasta,but Shanks might be involved with that event because he went there to fight against the person or the group of people who attacked Alabasta. There must be someone important involved to justify the fact that the Marines says that they dont have enough forces to take care of the Kaido-Big Mom alliance. Arresting the Warlords isnt enough to make them without men to send to Wano.
(Its also true that probably someone from Marine will actually arrive to Wano in the end,but so far they dont want to. We will surely know more about this during the chapters between Act 3 and Act 4).

I think Alabasta been kicked out of the WG and their sending the Marines to make they get Pluton. It's where I think Blackbeard going as well to make Pluton his.

[NamiRobinFrankyAce]

• About Sabo: There's no doubt that the newspaper says he's dead. But of course he didnt really died. He is probably just imprisoned. But i think there wont be a Ace 2.0,he will manage to free himself somehow,maybe thanks to Bonney.
  -About Hancok,i think sadly she will lose against the new weapon of the WG,but she will manage to escape before being captured. She will have to leave her island and she will travel trough the sea,meeting Luffy later in the story.
  -About Vivi: i think Cobra sadly died,she will become the Queen of Alabasta,and now her island is under attack because she refused a wedding proposal by Im-Sama. Remember when Cobra asked her to choose someone to marry,and she refuses? I think that was a foreshadowing of this thing. If you think that would be a plot for a romantic comedy,i'll stop you here: of course Im-Sama didnt want to marry her because he is in love,but probably because the Nefertari family is more important than we think.

[EvoWarrior5]

@NamiRobinFrankyAce:

-About Vivi: i think Cobra sadly died,she will become the Queen of Alabasta,and now her island is under attack because she refused a wedding proposal by Im-Sama. Remember when Cobra asked her to choose someone to marry,and she refuses? I think that was a foreshadowing of this thing. If you think that would be a plot for a romantic comedy,i'll stop you here: of course Im-Sama didnt want to marry her because he is in love,but probably because the Nefertari family is more important than we think.

I doubt that Imu is looking to marry. The way the scene was portrayed with posters of Luffy, Shirahoshi and BB didn't make it look like he was looking for a partner out of those 4. Rather like he was picking a target to eliminate. And recall: the Gorosei literally asked if he had decided on "the light to be extinguished from the world". Not just that: "another" light, implying that he's killed people behind the scenes before.

[wolfwood]

Maybe the extinguisher is what he calls his wang

[NamiRobinFrankyAce]

He decided to eliminate Cobra and marry Vivi for reasons we will undesrtand later. By the way the Vivi theory is the one i am least sure of the three
while i am pretty confident about the ones about Sabo and Hancock,at 80% lets say

[Thesage]

Dont forget we have to see Vegapunk !?

[Chams]

It would be difficult to explain what happened to Vivi to the world, considering that officially Im doesn't exist, so the marriage would never be announced

[uniaka ikuzakas]

Looking back and oda's new years message, I think the newspaper said that sabo îs captured and he will be executed in public, the second leader of biggest enemy of cds seems the way it goes, to show people what happenes to anyone that goes after cds. That îs why koala and dadan cry, and dadan said " not now when we just found out that he îs alive", they wanna kill him again. And fujitora îs after boa, so she will be captured