The Great New World Discussion Thread
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the most corrupt organisation in the op universe and in the real world also:D
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the most corrupt organisation in the op universe and in the real world also:D
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the most corrupt organisation in the op universe and in the real world also:D
What world government.
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in our world we call it only: government:)
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in our world we call it only: government:)
what do you think about the 51st district?:)….Puerto Rico??
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Alex Jones warned us about the 20 Kingdoms and their globalist plot.
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See i thought you had to go to a youtube commentary field to get this kind of quality nonsense
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in our world we call it only: government:)
what do you think about the 51st district?:)Are you talking about Area 51 or that's the title of a movie?
which by the way something has been revealed about it
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Are you talking about Area 51 or that's the title of a movie?
which by the way something has been revealed about it
This sounds interesting, could you pm me about it?
Let's stop talking about that in this thread though. We don't live in the new world. -
Did we ever have a theory resolving around the hallucination momonsuke had while being trapped in that trash dump room on Punk Hazard? The Hallucination of Doflamingo's Face caused him to go berserk and made him use his devil fruit abilities.
What if all S.A.D. Devil Fruits were made for Doflamingo's own purposes. Even Kaido would not knew about this of course. That means all those devil fruits he sell off to Kaido - and other brokers to the New Wolrd (?) - would only serve Doflamingo's will. Maybe he infused those S.A.D. fruits with his conqueror's haki to control those people, what ever he did he would have a super big army and could infiltrate the New World within the ranks of his enemies. Sounds pretty much like Doflamingo, eh? :D
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Momo didn't eat one of Caesar's SMILE's though, he ate the original artificial devil fruit created by vegapunk.
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@vlad:
Did we ever have a theory resolving around the hallucination momonsuke had while being trapped in that trash dump room on Punk Hazard? The Hallucination of Doflamingo's Face caused him to go berserk and made him use his devil fruit abilities.
What if all S.A.D. Devil Fruits were made for Doflamingo's own purposes. Even Kaido would not knew about this of course. That means all those devil fruits he sell off to Kaido - and other brokers to the New Wolrd (?) - would only serve Doflamingo's will. Maybe he infused those S.A.D. fruits with his conqueror's haki to control those people, what ever he did he would have a super big army and could infiltrate the New World within the ranks of his enemies. Sounds pretty much like Doflamingo, eh? :D
Like Robzilla said Momonosuke didn't eat a Smile fruit and you're practically saying that Doflamingo inserted a little bit of his Conqueror Haki (spirit) into a Smile, which is completely insane and Kaido would know either way
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Yeah seems far fetched but I do think momo is important wen it comes to making sad.
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@vlad:
Did we ever have a theory resolving around the hallucination momonsuke had while being trapped in that trash dump room on Punk Hazard? The Hallucination of Doflamingo's Face caused him to go berserk and made him use his devil fruit abilities.
What if all S.A.D. Devil Fruits were made for Doflamingo's own purposes. Even Kaido would not knew about this of course. That means all those devil fruits he sell off to Kaido - and other brokers to the New Wolrd (?) - would only serve Doflamingo's will. Maybe he infused those S.A.D. fruits with his conqueror's haki to control those people, what ever he did he would have a super big army and could infiltrate the New World within the ranks of his enemies. Sounds pretty much like Doflamingo, eh? :D
Some people have no idea what you're saying, and it sounds like a good scheme worthy of Doflo, but judging by how scared Doflo is of Kaido I doubt it's true.
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Some people have no idea what you're saying, and it sounds like a good scheme worthy of Doflo, but judging by how scared Doflo is of Kaido I doubt it's true.
Dude, tell me how the heck will Doflamingo insert a part of his Conquerors Haki into the smiles?
You know what Conquerors Haki is, I assume
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Maybe Momo has some tie to the throne (shogun/emperor)
kinemon having an affair with a woman far above his class status and is forced to run away with his son because the other successors to the throne want him dead
which could show why Doflamingo might want to mind cotrol him, Imagine having the emperor of wano as your own little slave, all he'd have to do is kill off all other sons with possible ties
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Dude, tell me how the heck will Doflamingo insert a part of his Conquerors Haki into the smiles?
You know what Conquerors Haki is, I assume
For some reason you're assuming the just because it is One Piece it has to be Haki?!? Why can't it just be a serum placed inside the fruit that subliminally tells the users to follow Dolfo? Anyway, in the world of One Piece, putting Haki inside of a fruit does not seemed that far fetched at all…
Other examples of far fetched happenings in One Piece: WG has placed the essence of the ocean into rocks, devil fruits can be given to inanimate objects and bring them to life, the main character is made out of rubber, etc etc.
For you to question what one can and can't do with a DF is to question Oda, which is just not smart to do seeing as we still know so little about DF, and because this is a One Piece forum. Take you one tracked mind elsewhere please.
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You know, this whole "Doflamingo is controlling SMILE users" is based entirely on that scene with Momo hallucinating about Dofla, even though Momo never actually ate a SMILE.
That theory should have been shot down a long time ago.
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You know, this whole "Doflamingo is controlling SMILE users" is based entirely on that scene with Momo hallucinating about Dofla, even though Momo never actually ate a SMILE.
That theory should have been shot down a long time ago.
There's also the fact that Dofla is giving smiles to yonkou while he's suppose to want to become pirate king.
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There's also the fact that Dofla is giving smiles to yonkou while he's suppose to want to become pirate king.
That's simple, he wants the Yonkous to destroy each other, If you find out that your enemy is getting stronger all of a sudden, you will try to stop them before is too late, don't you
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There's also the fact that Dofla is giving smiles to yonkou while he's suppose to want to become pirate king.
Well, Monet seemed to think he does, but Ace thought the same of Whitebeard, so he probably does not.
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@S.C.:
Well, Monet seemed to think he does, but Ace thought the same of Whitebeard, so he probably does not.
Lol, that reasoning is flawed.
Just because if happened in one instance doesn't mean the other one is probably the same. It might still be the case, but the word 'probably' aggravated me here. -
You know, this whole "Doflamingo is controlling SMILE users" is based entirely on that scene with Momo hallucinating about Dofla, even though Momo never actually ate a SMILE.
That theory should have been shot down a long time ago.
Im not basing the theory off anything I simply said that Doflo controlling the SMILES at all would be a good scheme, and i shot down that theory all on my own… Can you read before commenting please?
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Im not basing the theory off anything I simply said that Doflo controlling the SMILES at all would be a good scheme, and i shot down that theory all on my own… Can you read before commenting please?
You shot down the theory for the wrong reason (Dofla afraid of Kaidou).
Because, apparently, the existence of a serum that brainwashes people into obeying a specific person is completely plausible.
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For some reason you're assuming the just because it is One Piece it has to be Haki?!? Why can't it just be a serum placed inside the fruit that subliminally tells the users to follow Dolfo? Anyway, in the world of One Piece, putting Haki inside of a fruit does not seemed that far fetched at all…
Other examples of far fetched happenings in One Piece: WG has placed the essence of the ocean into rocks, devil fruits can be given to inanimate objects and bring them to life, the main character is made out of rubber, etc etc.
For you to question what one can and can't do with a DF is to question Oda, which is just not smart to do seeing as we still know so little about DF, and because this is a One Piece forum. Take you one tracked mind elsewhere please.
P.S: i was being very general with the names of things but if you want to ask me some more questions on some of the stuff I mentioned PM me rather than ask another immature question on the forum you sod.What the fuck are you going about, If you don't like to be questioned about bullshit then stop making stupid posts like those, I don't have to PM you for something like this, the dude said Conqueror's Haki inside a god damn ADF/DF or whatever you wanna call it, a person's own will inside a damn Devil Fruit, so just Doflamingo can control an army of ADF user and take over a yonkou position, that's so out of the box and more over trying to keep it alive with what defines most of the story,whats so wrong about questioning Oda anyways?
Haki, nowdays you can do everything with haki, how cool is that
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uhm i did not say it has to be haki, maybe he imbued them with a serum/drug like russbus said. but yeah ok…forgot that momo did not eat a smile fruit, but vegapunk's. my mistake then
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As of now we don't know enough about King's Haki to make claims about whether it can or cannot be imbued in weapons or even DFs. Might be an interesting topic later on.
However, to imbue King's Haki into over 500 DFs, maybe even over a thousand, and to keep that Haki in there for weeks or even months on end, to THEN control the entire army, that all by 1 man who is not at Yonko level, is simply not possible. No wait, what am I saying, not even a Yonko could do THAT, no matter how much you'd like to stretch it.The theory that Doflamingo might have put something into the DFs, whether it be a serum of some sort or not, is pretty well thought of though. He wouldn't simply sell them to a Yonko just like that if he wasn't planning to do anything with them, even if he appears to not want to be Pirate King himself at all. I highly doubt he is just helping Kaido like that. It is pretty likely that he either did something with the DFs to have the tides turn into his favour when he needs it to, or he is really planning on having the Yonko do battle among each other, as Shadowgreed suggested.
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What the fuck are you going about, If you don't like to be questioned about bullshit then stop making stupid posts like those, I don't have to PM you for something like this, the dude said Conqueror's Haki inside a god damn ADF/DF or whatever you wanna call it, a person's own will inside a damn Devil Fruit, so just Doflamingo can control an army of ADF user and take over a yonkou position, that's so out of the box and more over trying to keep it alive with what defines most of the story,whats so wrong about questioning Oda anyways?
Haki, nowdays you can do everything with haki, how cool is that
Im going on about you being an idiot. Read the post under yours since you can't remember your own words, you made the theory about using Haki you fool. Jesus Christ his thread is full of greenhorns and otherwise idiots.
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The theory that Doflamingo might have put something into the DFs, whether it be a serum of some sort or not, is pretty well thought of though. He wouldn't simply sell them to a Yonko just like that if he wasn't planning to do anything with them, even if he appears to not want to be Pirate King himself at all. I highly doubt he is just helping Kaido like that. It is pretty likely that he either did something with the DFs to have the tides turn into his favour when he needs it to, or he is really planning on having the Yonko do battle among each other, as Shadowgreed suggested.
Thank you for understanding what i said , unlike this other guy, but it seems that Doflo is making the fruits simply because he is afraid of Kaido, however strong Doflo is, Kaido could destroy him if he wanted to.
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Heh i can almost see Doffy and Vergo standing at an assembly line sticking syringes with ambition into the fruits
Thanks for the laugh guys
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Thank you for understanding what i said , unlike this other guy, but it seems that Doflo is making the fruits simply because he is afraid of Kaido, however strong Doflo is, Kaido could destroy him if he wanted to.
We don't really have anything to back this up. All we know is that Doflamingo started dealing in SMILEs and that Kaido is his biggest business partner, and that he seemed kinda scared at the thought of an angry Kaido. Nothing really indicates that he started selling Kaido SMILEs because he is afraid of him, however.
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We don't really have anything to back this up. All we know is that Doflamingo started dealing in SMILEs and that Kaido is his biggest business partner, and that he seemed kinda scared at the thought of an angry Kaido. Nothing really indicates that he started selling Kaido SMILEs because he is afraid of him, however.
DD was scared and he doesn't want to f*ck with Kaido.
If DD wasn't connected to the Tenryubito he'd be destroyed by Kaido.
It's simply hyping up Kaido. DD is stronger than Law so Luffy will have big problems with DD and furthermore DD is scared of Kaido.
Which leads up to Luffy < DD < Kaido. So how is Luffy & Law supposed to beat Kaido?This adds a possible theory of X Drake joining this alliance b/c he had already started to move against Kaido.
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Im going on about you being an idiot. Read the post under yours since you can't remember your own words, you made the theory about using Haki you fool. Jesus Christ his thread is full of greenhorns and otherwise idiots.
Dude the only moron in here is you, I commented the guy, He said CONQUEROR'S HAKI, then you came in with the most silly comment "some people have no idea what you're saying" like WTF is this dude talking about and when somebody questioned you, you go all bitchy and shit, again If you can't handle a forum, get the fuck out
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it seems that Doflo is making the fruits simply because he is afraid of Kaido
look at this… which one of the 20+ chapters we have on Dressrosa is making you interpret this, then you don't like when people are smashing your thoughts apart
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IIRC from Smoker's explanation they didn't put the essence of the ocean into rocks, the seastone appears naturally in a specific part of the sea.
Though they did figure out how to make weapons and restraint devices out of it.
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Dude the only moron in here is you, I commented the guy, He said CONQUEROR'S HAKI, then you came in with the most silly comment "some people have no idea what you're saying" like WTF is this dude talking about and when somebody questioned you, you go all bitchy and shit, again If you can't handle a forum, get the fuck out
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look at this... which one of the 20+ chapters we have on Dressrosa is making you interpret this, then you don't like when people are smashing your thoughts apart
Well its from a PH chapter… And he never once mentioned haki and if you think he did then we didnt read the same post lol quit ranting because you can't argue and you try to shut down completely plausible theories and throw in your own bullshit assumptions. Once again, sod off fool.
Lol well apparently he did mention Haki that kid is the idiot here, sorry for bitching at you lol, I was chilling hard when i posted that and the way you responded to it made it sound like you started the theory, I also couldn't get through the original post due to its stupidity. -
Well its from a PH chapter… And he never once mentioned haki and if you think he did then we didnt read the same post lol quit ranting because you can't argue and you try to shut down completely plausible theories and throw in your own bullshit assumptions. Once again, sod off fool.
Edit: Lol well apparently he did mention Haki that kid is the idiot here, sorry for bitching at you lol, I was chilling hard when i posted that and the way you responded to it made it sound like you started the theory, I also couldn't get through the original post due to its stupidity.
Misunderstandings but everything is cool now
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Sorry if this has already (and it probably has) been discussed, but whats up with Momo getting weird ass visions of Doflamingo?
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@MJR.:
DD was scared and he doesn't want to f*ck with Kaido.
If DD wasn't connected to the Tenryubito he'd be destroyed by Kaido.
You are right on the second part and this is also exactly why I interpret the bribing scene in a totally different way than most people, I think.
The fact that Doflamingo has strong ties with the Tenryuubito and was easily able to get out of the situation makes one wonder why he was sweating and screaming like that. Not because of fear of either side (Kaido or the Admirals), but simply because he didn't like the thought of Law fucking with him.Of course, if Kaido actually WAS angry at Dofla he would probably be scared and actually be wiped out. I do not think that Dofla could match up to any Yonko so I won't go as far as to say that he would never fear Kaido. I just don't think that he had any reason to feel frightened by anything at that particular moment, seeing as how several chapters later it was revealed that he had everything under control all along. That's why I came to the conclusion he might just have been mad at Law for messing with him. If you've been a pirate for years upon years, been a Warlord for 10 of those years, and you pretty much own the business in the underworld, you wouldn't be very happy if some pesky guy (who even formerly was in your crew and only got into the New World like a year or so ago) suddenly got all up in your business and tried to make you fight one of the two great powers in the world.
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Sorry if this has already (and it probably has) been discussed, but whats up with Momo getting weird ass visions of Doflamingo?
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1234700_10151727701844401_1143902042_n.jpg
It was literally being discussed on the last 2 pages bro haha.
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Sorry if this has already (and it probably has) been discussed, but whats up with Momo getting weird ass visions of Doflamingo?
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1234700_10151727701844401_1143902042_n.jpg
What do you think about that scene?
You are right on the second part and this is also exactly why I interpret the bribing scene in a totally different way than most people, I think.
The fact that Doflamingo has strong ties with the Tenryuubito and was easily able to get out of the situation makes one wonder why he was sweating and screaming like that. Not because of fear of either side (Kaido or the Admirals), but simply because he didn't like the thought of Law fucking with him.Of course, if Kaido actually WAS angry at Dofla he would probably be scared and actually be wiped out. I do not think that Dofla could match up to any Yonko so I won't go as far as to say that he would never fear Kaido. I just don't think that he had any reason to feel frightened by anything at that particular moment, seeing as how several chapters later it was revealed that he had everything under control all along. That's why I came to the conclusion he might just have been mad at Law for messing with him. If you've been a pirate for years upon years, been a Warlord for 10 of those years, and you pretty much own the business in the underworld, you wouldn't be very happy if some pesky guy (who even formerly was in your crew and only got into the New World like a year or so ago) suddenly got all up in your business and tried to make you fight one of the two great powers in the world.
How can you say that he's right in the second part?
Doflamingo was afraid at that particular moment but giving his characteristic so far in the story I wouldn't suggest that it was because of Kaido or Admirals but because he's 10 years long plan was going to crumble before his eyes, If he stops supplying Kaido with ADF it will means that his plan will be in hold, who knows for how long and the New Era which will probably start tomorrow (OP times) will most likely catch him off guard and he won't be able to move his cards anymore, keep in mind that an Underworld business consist of Image/reputation and If he all of a sudden he stops supplying, he will most definitely crumble in every single aspect.
PS: Doflamingo will be a perfect example of why Oda does not kill characters
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Dude the only moron in here is you, I commented the guy, He said CONQUEROR'S HAKI, then you came in with the most silly comment "some people have no idea what you're saying" like WTF is this dude talking about and when somebody questioned you, you go all bitchy and shit, again If you can't handle a forum, get the fuck out
[…]hmm russ was correct when he said that you don't get my point. it is not a "silly comment". i was just pointing out that dofla could have done anything to make use of the SAD devil fruit users. conqueror's haki was just a plump idea that was not the core part of my theory. russ understood that just perfectly anyway it has been discussed that momo did not eat a SAD fruit so no need to cook everything up again. theory smashed. kkthx. but don't treat me like a kid…cause i'm obv. not :wassat:
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Sorry if this has already (and it probably has) been discussed, but whats up with Momo getting weird ass visions of Doflamingo?
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1234700_10151727701844401_1143902042_n.jpg
He probably did it for fun.
He 'saved' Luffy by controlling Momo. Maybe just to see the outcome.
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How can you say that he's right in the second part?
Would you like to claim otherwise and say that Doflamingo could beat Kaido?
Doflamingo was afraid at that particular moment but giving his characteristic so far in the story I wouldn't suggest that it was because of Kaido or Admirals but because he's 10 years long plan was going to crumble before his eyes,
How does the part until the bold differ from what I was saying?
At the bold part, no it wasn't "about to crumble". He had perfect control over everything and he got out easily just like that, no questions asked. At no point in time was Doflamingo in danger from either the Marines or Kaido.
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@vlad:
hmm russ was correct when he said that you don't get my point. it is not a "silly comment". i was just pointing out that dofla could have done anything to make use of the SAD devil fruit users. conqueror's haki was just a plump idea that was not the core part of my theory. russ understood that just perfectly anyway it has been discussed that momo did not eat a SAD fruit so no need to cook everything up again. theory smashed. kkthx. but don't treat me like a kid…cause i'm obv. not :wassat:
Its too confusing to even deal with anymore were good now lol. However the Haki thing never made any sense at all, thats my final statement.
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@vlad:
hmm russ was correct when he said that you don't get my point. it is not a "silly comment". i was just pointing out that dofla could have done anything to make use of the SAD devil fruit users. conqueror's haki was just a plump idea that was not the core part of my theory. russ understood that just perfectly anyway it has been discussed that momo did not eat a SAD fruit so no need to cook everything up again. theory smashed. kkthx. but don't treat me like a kid…cause i'm obv. not :wassat:
I got your point, who on this forum didn't get your point? the thing is that you based around Conqueror's Haki and not something else, I assume that we're over 18 in here but I never treat like a kid, did I?
@MJR.:
He probably did it for fun.
He 'saved' Luffy by controlling Momo. Maybe just to see the outcome.
How exactly did this happen? Let's all assume that Doflamingo in fact can control Momonosuke over 30 miles away, why would he save Luffy when some chapter ago he told hi's underlings to watch out for him
Would you like to claim otherwise and say that Doflamingo could beat Kaido?
Of course I won't but Doflamingo is just a pirate with great connection, that in the eyes of great pirates won't change his fate even If he's a Tenryuubito, don't you think
How does the part until the bold differ from what I was saying?
At the bold part, no it wasn't "about to crumble". He had perfect control over everything and he got out easily just like that, no questions asked. At no point in time was Doflamingo in danger from either the Marines or Kaido.
Sorry I just didn't like to make it a one liner, lol
You can't deny that the guy snapped, he got control of the situation once his head cooled down but at that particular moment he freaked out, like big time
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How exactly did this happen? Let's all assume that Doflamingo in fact can control Momonosuke over 30 miles away, why would he save Luffy when some chapter ago he told hi's underlings to watch out for him
Because his underlings are not on the power level of Luffy.
I think he really did it on a whim. He thought or still thinks he has everything under control.
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@MJR.:
Because his underlings are not on the power level of Luffy.
I think he really did it on a whim. He thought or still thinks he has everything under control.
Why saved him then? If he hadn't saved him, he wouldn't be in this mess
PS: We're assuming Doflamingo in fact can control Momonosuke
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Why saved him then? If he hadn't saved him, he wouldn't be in this mess
PS: We're assuming Doflamingo in fact can control Momonosuke
As I said. He never expected to be in a mess from the beginning.
Or he thought Vergo would be enough to take on Luffy.Maybe DD got too cocky/confident and Luffy proved him wrong.
I really don't have any solid proof to back this up.I don't see any other reason for Oda to show that particular panel of Momo seeing DD and then suddenly starting to fly.
He himself said he doesn't know how to fly nor he can remember flying*.That really bugs me now. Oda never shows something without a meaning or reason behind it.
So why did he show us that panel? Maybe to let us overthink it? *Correct me if I'm wrong on that part.