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      Well lol, Marimo is kinda Alone with her on a deserted island ATM so …

      Nah thats nothing after all Zoro doesn't even have a sword to USE on Perona anymore so nothing can come of it.

      Okay thats enough of that, I am starting to make myself feel sick and unclean.

      I am what I think and think what I am.

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        @Don:

        ohh yeah how long do i wait for this, and i was sooooo sure it would come…awww it will it will!!!😉

        DonQdeF – DON'T ABANDON YOUR DREAM!

        Remember, Buggy's original crew are drifting without their leader now, so they'll be easy prey for Foxy, who should be arriving in the vicinity soon. After all heck breaks loose, Buggy begins his exodus across the Red Sea Line to reunite with his former crew, who are currently stuck on Foxy's crew due to their incompetence in the DBF rounds. At first both sides fight in earnest, but as soon as Buggy and Foxy realize that they have more in common than not, they call a cease-fire, join forces, and party all the way to Fishman Island …

        also johnny and yosaku will come 1 day…....(hard to exept the truth:sad:)

        I want to see that one,too.

        And the last one that I want to see: what ever became of the PX who got pawed by Kuma. With luck, it'll end up with Gaimon, or on Vacation Island doing the hustle, or some other absurd and entertaining place.

        @Flux:

        It was you all along !?
        With the lead pipe in the study ?

        @Bad-Beat:

        what the fuck…

        Wow. Bad-Beat really has no Clue, does he?
        😆

        "Over-thinking,

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        ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

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          @dinty:

          DonQdeF – DON'T ABANDON YOUR DREAM!

          Remember, Buggy's original crew are drifting without their leader now, so they'll be easy prey for Foxy, who should be arriving in the vicinity soon. After all heck breaks loose, Buggy begins his exodus across the Red Line to reunite with his former crew, who are currently stuck on Foxy's crew due to their incompetence in the DBF rounds. At first both sides fight in earnest, but as soon as Buggy and Foxy realize that they have more in common than not, they call a cease-fire, join forces, and party all the way to Fishman Island ...

          you know my real dreams will come true in near future..😉
          i can smell the taste of the new world order of OP,(our NWO would also be interesting to discuss but sure not here now 🙂 and epic battles right now..

          and yeah youre right…foxy is searching for such a "lost" crew without their captn...
          but richie is still their:blink:
          non the less ,their is sure still hope for us and foxy battleing a future yonkou has to be a coverstory🆒

          And the last one that I want to see: what ever became of the PX who got pawed by Kuma. With luck, it'll end up with Gaimon, or on Vacation Island doing the hustle, or some other absurd and entertaining place.

          😆great idea…gaimon sure need some new friends and PX would be great to see ,how he discovers a peaceful place where his mind chances(when he has a mind)..
          gaimon would be the perfect teacher for that😉love all animals however they may look like....

          Unrevealed_Loki/Rocks/Im-san_

          IslandElbaf/Raftel/GodValley

          UnresolvedWeevil´s plan/Explaining DFs/Deal with Kuma-Bonney´s past/Joy-Boy/Zunisha´s story/Rocks flashback/Void Century/Rioponeglyph/Uranus/the D.clan

          DFWind/Metal/Acid/Liquid/Time-Stop

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            My first Luffy AMV is now complete. It's another rush job (meaning that I could only revise the technical stuff and not the creative process), but I stuck with a style that I'm used to so I don't think there's all that much stuff I'd change. I also tried to keep the style somewhat similar to the AMV I made for Zoro considering the matchup.

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            I originally intended on doing a totally different style of AMV for Luffy that I hadn't done before, but I thought better of it considering the short time frame that I had to work with. Now that I have no more deadlines to deal with (for a year), I can do that one next. I'll keep making these, but they'll come out at a slower rate and be more revised to the point that I'm 100% satisfied with them before I publish them. Since there wont be a tournament to use them for, I'll just stick them in my thread in the AMV subforum if anyone is interested. Hopefully I'll be even better at making these for next year's tournament.

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              This is it:

              4WgT9gy4zQA

              The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny

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                Huh. Looks like I was right.. so far.

                Luffy doing a steam rolllllllll. 😛 Still a day and a half left though.

                Originally Posted by CoralSnake

                ..Take that Sanji fan girls! Some ugly evil clown is destroying your Zoro vs Sanji match!! MWAHAHAH xD

                Originally Posted by Darkstorm

                No. This thread has just the right amount of bile and angst.

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                  Zoro needs 83 moar votes to win.

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                    @dinty:

                    Buggy has a big cult following around here. (I'm actually one of them! – still waiting impatiently for Oda to give me that Buggy vs Foxy DBF cover story). Buggy also benefited from the timing of the tournament: it coincided with his return to the spotlight and his Impel Down caper, so that magnified his fanbase.

                    Crocodile has a pretty big following too and a similar support base as Buggy; villain, non-SH, etc. which is why I thought the case was hopeless. But I guess in the end the deciding factor was that Luffy's popularity was just too much. Understandable though, given that it's been his story alone for the last year. (Though that is true about the timing for Zoro. Perhaps Oda was trying to make up for his dickishness in W-7 with that generous exhibition of good deeds.)

                    Even though Buggy seems to be building up for greater things, I too would still like a meeting with Foxy. And with Alvida and the rest of his crew wandering around without one of their co-captains, they'd make for some nice Foxy-prey so I wouldn't say the window of opportunity has been shut just yet.

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                      @Taz:

                      (Though that is true about the timing for Zoro. Perhaps Oda was trying to make up for his dickishness in W-7 with that generous exhibition of good deeds.)

                      What is this dickishness that everyone keeps talking about?!

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                        @threedayslater:

                        What is this dickishness that everyone keeps talking about?!

                        That I'd like to know myself too.

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                          ivotas i read ur post somewhere that if this thing goes smoothly then this will become an yearly thing…

                          so we will have this next year too?

                          …

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                            @threedayslater:

                            What is this dickishness that everyone keeps talking about?!

                            @Ivotas:

                            That I'd like to know myself too.

                            I assume people are referring to his refusal to let Usopp back unless he apologizes.

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                              But he wasn't being a dick. It would have been really really bad if they just let Usopp back in again without an apology. Sanji even agreed with him! You know he's right when Sanji agrees with him!

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                                @Fire-Fist:

                                ivotas i read ur post somewhere that if this thing goes smoothly then this will become an yearly thing…

                                so we will have this next year too?

                                yeah but you won't be invited

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                                  Cool the way the last final match is open for like 3 Days, I hadn't noticed until a few
                                  minutes ago, nice, this'll really dredge the voters out, altough to be fair, there are many
                                  matches that just can't be beat like the Ritchie and Sengoku one. Or the Garp and Smoker one.

                                  Originally Posted by sanji499

                                  I wonder what was Bale's reaction when the stunt double broke the imax camera?

                                  Originally Posted by Silvers Rayleigh

                                  In the United States we don't have much manga around, specifically One Piece, and mainly the newer chapters - Jan 2011

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                                    @Bad-Beat:

                                    yeah but you won't be invited

                                    np… i'll buy you another ticket.. 😆

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                                      But he wasn't being a dick. It would have been really really bad if they just let Usopp back in again without an apology. Sanji even agreed with him! You know he's right when Sanji agrees with him!

                                      Apparently some people believe that he should have let Usopp walk all over their captain.:ninja:

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                                        I think, in that scene, Zoro've just tought Usopp to be more mature, and at the same time remind Luffy so that he won't forget his position, and to remind all crew that being pirate is no game. So, for me, that scene actually add Zoro's coolness point even higher.

                                        ![](images/smilies/ipb/wub.png "Wub")Z/R Forever!!![](images/smilies/ipb/wub.png "Wub")

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                                          Apparently some people believe that he should have let Usopp walk all over their captain.:ninja:

                                          Way to simplify.

                                          It wasn't just asking for an apology, it was his whole attitude in context. Usopp's too. The W-7 conclusion wasn't handled well in general and suffered problems with consistency, which is why there was so much controversy about it (one of many during those days). I'm too lazy to get deep into it, but the fact is that after the arc both Zoro and Usopp took huge blows to their popularity. …Which kind of makes me regret that we didn't have one of these tourneys right after that. The results would have no doubt been hilarious.

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                                            @Taz:

                                            Way to simplify.

                                            It wasn't just asking for an apology, it was his whole attitude in context. Usopp's too. The W-7 conclusion wasn't handled well in general and suffered problems with consistency, which is why there was so much controversy about it (one of many during those days). I'm too lazy to get deep into it, but the fact is that after the arc both Zoro and Usopp took huge blows to their popularity. …Which kind of makes me regret that we didn't have one of these tourneys right after that. The results would have no doubt been hilarious.

                                            Yeah, it's simple…Usopp disrespected their captain and Zoro didn't want to let him get away with it without an apology. It's not like he didn't want him back in the crew - he simply wanted him to apologize. If he didn't stand up then people would continue treating Luffy like garbage not just in comedic situations but in real serious situations deciding the future of the crew.

                                            What was so wrong with Zoro's attitude? Did you expect him to be all nice and happy about it? It was a serious issue and he handled it in a calm and serious manner. Sanji agreed with him and eventually - the whole crew.

                                            Besides, I don't think Zoro's popularity suffered because of that incident. When the chapter came out most people agreed with him and there were only a few who were turned off. If anything, it added to his character and people respected him more about it.

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                                              @Don:

                                              but richie is still their:blink:
                                              non the less ,their is sure still hope for us and foxy battleing a future yonkou has to be a coverstory🆒

                                              The way I see it, Richie will be the final opponent for Foxy, taking the same place as Luffy once did, and just as that match is about to get started, Buggy will come storming in.

                                              😆great idea…gaimon sure need some new friends and PX would be great to see ,how he discovers a peaceful place where his mind chances(when he has a mind)..
                                              gaimon would be the perfect teacher for that😉love all animals however they may look like....

                                              Yes, exactly, by the end of the chapter story we would see him gently patting the head of a rabbit or something, and enjoying a mellow sunset.

                                              @Taz:

                                              But I guess in the end the deciding factor was that Luffy's popularity was just too much. Understandable though, given that it's been his story alone for the last year. (Though that is true about the timing for Zoro. Perhaps Oda was trying to make up for his dickishness in W-7 with that generous exhibition of good deeds.)

                                              I agree about Luffy's popularity and the good timing in terms of recent manga chapters. If he was to win a tournament – and he almost certainly will this time -- this should be it. Cheers to the true pirate king!

                                              Oda has been evolving Zoro's personality for a long time -- turning him from a lovable goof into a responsible adult. And unfortunately, that's made Zoro less popular with some people, because he's no longer as stupidly funny as he once was. But I think Oda's done a great job of finding other ways to make Zoro funny. For instance, making a lot of jokes at the expense of that new-found seriousness in Zoro (for example, Sanji's reaction after the negative ghost zaps Zoro, and Zoro's reaction to Sanji's reaction) So we're still laughing at Zoro, but it's his intense seriousness that's the punchline now, where it used to be his intense stupidity.

                                              Of course we see the events at W-7 differently and always have, and I'm not going to try to persuade you otherwise (sweat) but I think you're right that at least some of the good deeds he's done since then are Oda's way of showing that he's not a monster.

                                              I also think that Oda had Usopp play a major role in the saving of Zoro (just before they all got pawed) as a way of reinforcing to fans that there's no hard feelings between the two of them, and so there shouldn't be between the fans either. And did you notice that Usopp gave Zoro a lecture too? Not many people catch that, but it's there. Zoro demands to be dropped so that he can serve as a distraction for Pacifista and so that Ussop can escape. Usopp flatly negates the plan: "Hell no! You're crew, too!" So Ussop isn't taking the easiest way out anymore, and Zoro has just learned that he can't always play the martyr card.

                                              Even though Buggy seems to be building up for greater things, I too would still like a meeting with Foxy. And with Alvida and the rest of his crew wandering around without one of their co-captains, they'd make for some nice Foxy-prey so I wouldn't say the window of opportunity has been shut just yet.

                                              The way I see it, this is a convenient way for him to end up with a huge crew before entering the New World. So for him to have circus (the original crew), side-show freaks (Foxy's crew) and con-artists (the Impel Down 'converts') all together in one big armada seems perfect to me. And yes, he's got to go on to bigger things. He's one of Oda's own favorite characters.

                                              "Over-thinking,

                                              over-analyzing …"

                                              ......-- Tool (from Lateralus)

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                                                As I've realized, I've being immature to myself… Luffy is a lovable character and he deserves to win this competition, so I'm trying my best to support my boy XD

                                                and supporting on how Zoro changed...

                                                In real life that we're going to get mature at some point. That's how I find with Zoro recently. and to be honest I thought I'm the only one noticed that Zoro is less funnier compared to pre-Eneru or pre-Kuma incident. I kinda miss the old Zoro the way we used to loved him but at the same time, he looks cooler and very mature at one point (W7 arc and TB especially.) Oda is still evolving with these characters, is just that for me Zoro had a big change the most. I'm not complaining though 😛

                                                I'm also saddened that OP fans didn't see the Usopp's change. I'm so so happy how Oda evolved Usopp after the W7. (Yes, I love the fact that Usopp's the one who carried Zoro) so kudos to him... I like Usopp even more 😃

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                                                And special gold (or should I say "green"?) stars go to N-Jun, Brave heart, threedayslater and the dynamic duo known as CEZ, for their efforts "above and beyond the call of duty"

                                                yes because I'm a fangirl ![](images/smilies/ipb/tongue.png "Tongue")

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                                                  Apparently some people believe that he should have let Usopp walk all over their captain.:ninja:

                                                  I see. I guess that's then the pussies that don't like the when someone states the truth which can be painful at times. There's nothing dickish in Zoro's behaviour there. He did what needed to be done in a manner that helped him to get the point across. Even Sanji agreed with him on that matter which should prove how right everything was. Of course this is not something whimpy pussies can relate to. The only thing they can relate to is this:

                                                  Kuhahahahahahahahahaha :devil:

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                                                    Don't forget this fella.

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                                                      Oh yeah, my bad.

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                                                        Yeah, it's simple…Usopp disrespected their captain and Zoro didn't want to let him get away with it without an apology.

                                                        Simplify: ignoring the cause, circumstances, everything that happened in-between, irony, very nature of the SH crew and breaking it down into a strawman argument. Basically what you did. If you're that interested just read through the old threads. I won't say anymore on it since it's an old topic that I care about getting into just as much as "Usopp character development".

                                                        (Edit, lest I incur Ivotas' wrath: Just to make it clear, I'm not approving what Usopp did.)

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                                                        Kuhahahahahahahahahaha :devil:

                                                        Ooh good point. Because of Zoro's dickishness we were forced to put up with Luffy and Usopp bawling like a bunch babies.

                                                        @dinty:

                                                        Oda has been evolving Zoro's personality for a long time – turning him from a lovable goof into a responsible adult. And unfortunately, that's made Zoro less popular with some people, because he's no longer as stupidly funny as he once was. But I think Oda's done a great job of finding other ways to make Zoro funny.

                                                        Yeah, Zoro's found a new niche in deadpan humour. And it has made for some really funny moments whenever he lets it out. I also agree that he's one of the crew that has changed the most since his introduction, so it's a positive in that it shows development. But on the other hand I still find it a shame since, save a few quirks he's kept, that very growth and maturity has made him conform too much to the generic "honourable swordsman" archetype - one I never liked. But we can't all have our cake and eat it, too.

                                                        Of course we see the events at W-7 differently and always have, and I'm not going to try to persuade you otherwise (sweat) but I think you're right that at least some of the good deeds he's done since then are Oda's way of showing that he's not a monster.

                                                        Weeell, it wouldn't be interesting if we agreed on everything now would it? Not that I object to the principle per se. (Though I suspect Zoro has never read the story of "The Prodigal Son".) But I liked his bonding with Brook, so eh, let it slide.

                                                        I did miss the little lecture Usopp gave him - that puts a new spin on an already interesting scene (Usopp protecting Zoro for a change). Though Zoro's 'flaw' here was really just more of his honourable nature kicking in, I don't know if that should really count. Still, the whole Sabaody conclusion was great.

                                                        The way I see it, this is a convenient way for him to end up with a huge crew before entering the New World. So for him to have circus (the original crew), side-show freaks (Foxy's crew) and con-artists (the Impel Down 'converts') all together in one big armada seems perfect to me. And yes, he's got to go on to bigger things. He's one of Oda's own favorite characters.

                                                        When you put it that way.. it wouldn't suprise me if Buggy's newfound (and possibley future) strength in numbers might be his stepping stones to becoming the 5th Emperor of the new world. It'd be horrible and hilarious and perfect at the same time.

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                                                          @Taz:

                                                          Simplify: ignoring the cause, circumstances, everything that happened in-between, irony, very nature of the SH crew and breaking it down into a strawman argument. Basically what you did. If you're that interested just read through the old threads. I won't say anymore on it since it's an old topic that I care about getting into just as much as "Usopp character development".

                                                          Like it or not Oda himself stated that Usopps behaviour was wrong with how the events turned out. If Oda would approve of Usopps behaviour he wouldn't have wrapped the story around in a manner in which Usopp had to apologize. It's still Oda's story and where he shares his take on things. Simple as that. Now get back to campaigning or to a talkback how great the tournament was or what a wonderful organizer I was…OR taste my wrath. Kuhahahahahaha :devil:

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                                                            @Taz:

                                                            Simplify: ignoring the cause, circumstances, everything that happened in-between, irony, very nature of the SH crew and breaking it down into a strawman argument. Basically what you did. If you're that interested just read through the old threads. I won't say anymore on it since it's an old topic that I care about getting into just as much as "Usopp character development".

                                                            It is exactly because the subject has been discussed to death that I did not want to provide a lengthy elaboration and opted for a "strawman" argument instead. I've already read the old threads and as I mentioned the vast majority was on Zoro's side. Nevertheless, strawman or not, my argument is correct and all of those extenuating circumstances are nothing more that petty excuses. Besides, it's not like Zoro wanted to kick Usopp out of the crew, he simply wanted him to apologize - not an unreasonable request by any means. The mere fact that Usopp apologized without even being told to is proof enough that he himself realized that he was wrong. I don't think there is anything further to discuss.

                                                            EDIT: If you remember the story of the prodigal son correctly, the said character came back on his knees to his father and said that he was sorry and he wasn't worthy of being called his son and asked to become one of his father's servants. This is much less extreme than what Zoro wanted Usopp to do. I don't recall the father or his brother or any of his servants trying to get the prodigal son back. Looks like Zoro knew that parable better than anyone else…

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                                                              Zoro was right, that's all folks.

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                                                                @Darklord: where did I say Usopp shouldn't have apologized? Good job distorting my point. Dick move, man. Dick move. As expected from a guy with a Zoro avatar.

                                                                On-Topic: My one regret in this tournament is missing out on Richie vs Sengoku..

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                                                                  Agreed. Richie had potential.

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                                                                    Because if there's any way to stick up for your Captain, it's by publicly criticizing his decision and then threatening to leave if he doesn't do things the way you say he should. That's so much more mature than what Usopp did, which was stick up for a ship that actually had a soul and wound up saving their lives.

                                                                    The Straw Hats are lucky that it was Garp and Aokiji that showed up right then; if it'd be Kizaru or Akainu, they'd have died because of Zoro's demand for a public apology.

                                                                    Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                      @Ubiq:

                                                                      Because if there's any way to stick up for your Captain, it's by publicly criticizing his decision and then threatening to leave if he doesn't do things the way you say he should. That's so much more mature than what Usopp did, which was stick up for a ship that actually had a soul and wound up saving their lives.

                                                                      The Straw Hats are lucky that it was Garp and Aokiji that showed up right then; if it'd be Kizaru or Akainu, they'd have died because of Zoro's demand for a public apology.

                                                                      That's a little unfair. You are destroying Zoro's point of disagreeing with his captain's bad judgment. The fact was that Luffy was wrong in his decisions, at that point, and Zoro was pointing out how bad they were. You wouldn't want to work for someone who makes bad decisions all the time.
                                                                      Usopp wasn't coming to terms with the fact that the ship was pretty much useless, and so he just blaimed Luffy for not believing in it. Now that was immature.

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                                                                        @Ubiq:

                                                                        The Straw Hats are lucky that it was Garp and Aokiji that showed up right then; if it'd be Kizaru or Akainu, they'd have died because of Zoro's demand for a public apology.

                                                                        A true man would even die to protect his beliefs with a DON. Better dying standing straight then living on your knees (whining like this guy…

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                                                                          That's a little unfair. You are destroying Zoro's point of disagreeing with his captain's bad judgment. The fact was that Luffy was wrong in his decisions, at that point, and Zoro was pointing out how bad they were. You wouldn't want to work for someone who makes bad decisions all the time.

                                                                          Zoro was actually stating that Luffy needed to stick to his decisions right or wrong and that altering them was a mistake. Threatening to leave somebody because they came to the conclusion that they were wrong in the first place and want to change their mind isn't mature.

                                                                          Usopp wasn't coming to terms with the fact that the ship was pretty much useless, and so he just blaimed Luffy for not believing in it. Now that was immature.

                                                                          He wasn't coming to terms with the fact that they were going to abandon a member of the crew. If Merry had just been a ship, that's be one thing, but she actually had a soul.

                                                                          Say that Usopp goes along with it and they leave Merry there at that little cove. Things proceed more or less the same from there, but without Usopp leaving the crew and meeting Franky. How likely is it then that the Dismantlers take Merry to Tom's Workers? The Klaubautermann isn't present for the discussion between CP9 and Franky where it comes out that they're going to Enies Lobby.

                                                                          How does that work out for the Straw Hats if they go to Enies Lobby to get Robin back if Merry doesn't know where they were going? It was only a matter of time until sheer numbers either won out or the Vice Admirals finally got pissed off enough that they went down there and personally took on the Straw Hats. Were they in any condition to fight five Vice Admirals?

                                                                          Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                            excluding x drake voters, 632 is the highest numbers of voters right?

                                                                            and im curious to know if there is anyone who voted for the winning character in each match?

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                                                                              Since there are a few matches where the public poll option wasn't checked, there's no way to know for certain who voted in every match. I doubt that anybody voted for the winner in every poll though though it's not impossible.

                                                                              Complicating things since 2009.

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                                                                                @Darklord: where did I say Usopp shouldn't have apologized? Good job distorting my point. Dick move, man. Dick move. As expected from a guy with a Zoro avatar.

                                                                                Umm…then what have we been discussing all along? If you agree that Zoro was right to demand that Usopp apologize, then we are on the same page. What was your point that I distorted, since I am pretty confused. By the way, good job making a judgment on my character based on an avatar, which I can easily change. That's the real dick move.

                                                                                @Ubiq:

                                                                                Because if there's any way to stick up for your Captain, it's by publicly criticizing his decision and then threatening to leave if he doesn't do things the way you say he should. That's so much more mature than what Usopp did, which was stick up for a ship that actually had a soul and wound up saving their lives.

                                                                                Funny…that's exactly what Usopp did. :happy:

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                                                                                  Well, this is the end, beautiful friends. The One Piece Character 2009 tournament has come to a close. Our king has been crowned, and it's none other than the King of the Pirates himself.

                                                                                  Congratulations to 2009 Champion : MONKEY D. LUFFY!!!

                                                                                  Now all that remains is the closing dance number..

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                                                                                    @Usopp with a Pushpop: I can't believe you voted against Buggy just for the purposes of crushing Zoro in the final round. First Nami, now this? Shaaaame.

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                                                                                    Umm…then what have we been discussing all along? If you agree that Zoro was right to demand that Usopp apologize, then we are on the same page. What was your point that I distorted, since I am pretty confused. By the way, good job making a judgment on my character based on an avatar, which I can easily change. That's the real dick move.

                                                                                    My point was that Zoro acted like a dick about it. He basically threw his version of a temper tantrum. Whoever drew that Ace whining fanart needs to do one for Zoro whining about not staying with a captain who doesn't demand apologies.

                                                                                    He acted insubordinate to Luffy while complaining about insubordinance and demanded terms that ultimately made Usopp's apology less meaningful. His cold, unsympathetic and militant attitude not only disregarded the fact that Usopp's 'mistake' ultimately saved them all, but was completely contrary to the spirit of friendship that's been the driving force of the Straw Hat pirates. That part honestly wouldn't bother me so much if all this "nakama" bullshit wasn't drilled into our heads for hundreds of chapters - now it's conveniently ignored? Pffft.

                                                                                    And good God, the avatar comment was a joke. That's just the type of humourless, dickish reaction expected from a guy with a Zoro avatar.
                                                                                    (Yes that was a joke, too … or was it?)

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                                                                                      A true man would even die to protect his beliefs with a DON. Better dying standing straight then living on your knees (whining like this guy…

                                                                                      That picture is what I'll miss most of all about this tournament.

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                                                                                      Celine Dion post in the MK thread. I wish I could neg you.

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                                                                                        I seriously doubt we've seen the last of that image.

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                                                                                          First Nami, now this? Shaaaame.

                                                                                          Back off me man! Back off! It's not like Nami's loss was COMPLETELY my fault! What about all them people who pity voted Roger because they thought he didn't stand a chance? Hm?

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                                                                                          I can't believe you voted against Buggy just for the purposes of crushing Zoro in the final round.

                                                                                          Oh hell yeah. 🆒

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                                                                                            At least he's honest…

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                                                                                            Celine Dion post in the MK thread. I wish I could neg you.

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                                                                                              @Taz:

                                                                                              @Usopp with a Pushpop: I can't believe you voted against Buggy just for the purposes of crushing Zoro in the final round. First Nami, now this? Shaaaame.

                                                                                              My point was that Zoro acted like a dick about it. He basically threw his version of a temper tantrum. Whoever drew that Ace whining fanart needs to do one for Zoro whining about not staying with a captain who doesn't demand apologies.

                                                                                              He acted insubordinate to Luffy while complaining about insubordinance and demanded terms that ultimately made Usopp's apology less meaningful. His cold, unsympathetic and militant attitude not only disregarded the fact that Usopp's 'mistake' ultimately saved them all, but was completely contrary to the spirit of friendship that's been the driving force of the Straw Hat pirates. That part honestly wouldn't bother me so much if all this "nakama" bullshit wasn't drilled into our heads for hundreds of chapters - now it's conveniently ignored? Pffft.

                                                                                              And good God, the avatar comment was a joke. That's just the type of humourless, dickish reaction expected from a guy with a Zoro avatar.
                                                                                              (Yes that was a joke, too … or was it?)

                                                                                              Zoro was acting like a first mate should. In everything else he supports luffy. Remember it was him who told the crew to calm down and trust him when it came to Aokiji. Zoro may not be the smartest person in the crew but he knows how to act and in the end luffy realized he was right.

                                                                                              Usopp left the crew, thats a big thing to walk away from especially for such selfish immature reasons. That was the biggest betrayal to the Nakama motto yet not Zoro reminding luffy of his duty as a captain and their place as the crew. They're not playing pirates however much that seems to people like you. Lives are on the line. They need to be able to depend on the people they call their nakama not have to worry about them walking out whenever they feel like it for such petty reasons.

                                                                                              Usopp is and always will be one of my least favorite characters for doing such an unforgivable thing and Zoro has my eternal gratitude to respect what it means to be a real crew enough to set luffy straight. If Luffy disagreed with him he wouldn't have listened, simple as that but luffy knew he was right.

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                                                                                                This tournament has been fun, but the admin nightmare is over for now eh mods? :P. Congrats to Luffy, a worthy (yet quite predictable) winner!

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                                                                                                  Did anyone save Inazuma's Inazuma campaigns? I really want to see the Magellan comic again.

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                                                                                                    it was a fun tournement overall, but quite long too.

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                                                                                                      Ah, dang! I started this too late to post in the match thread, but here we go:

                                                                                                      Just to commemorate the end of a fun tournament, and acknowledge that good sport = goodness in general.

                                                                                                      Thanks for the fun everyone, especially to those who spent some time to campaign and spice things up 😄

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                                                                                                        It was rather long, but what would I have done with my summer break without the Arlong Park Character Tournament? Seriously, this stuff was like crack to me for a while…

                                                                                                        ANYWAY, thanks for the fun dudes.

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